First openly gay bishop....

08-06-2003

So ... how do you peeps feel about that?

Quote:

In a move that threatens to split the denomination, the Episcopal Church has ratified the nomination of its first openly gay bishop. While the Rev. Gene Robinson called his ratification "not so much a dream as a calling from God," one opponent said the controversial vote left a "grief too deep for words."

From CNN

Ibudin · 08-06-2003

No big deal to me. Don't really partake in church, let alone the the Episcopal Church ..damn holy rollers. I did read aids is on the rise signicantly in the gay community though..so sad

Ibudin

08-06-2003

Sweden allready has 2 or 3 openly gay of that high rank, was alot of fuss about it a few years ago.. but it's rather toned down by now. Rather logical step forward I'd say, proves that atleast some people realise that times are changing and you can't pretend to be living in the years long gone..

//Izola

Haloface · 08-06-2003

gg...gaa...GAYS?!?!?!
OH MY!!11
OH NOSSS!!! PPLS R GAYS???

Ah, the speed of society.

Thormir · 08-06-2003

Well, the speed of religion in catching up to society actually.

It doesn't impact me at all, but I suspect if Paul showed up today he'd have an apoplectic fit over it. Well, after going, "You're all still here?"

Lleauric · 08-06-2003

Its no big deal really.
maybe 2% of the population gives a crap.. and those people are mostly in the South and Midwest..
New Hampshire is a *very* live and let live state

08-06-2003

The bible says that homosexuality is a very bad sin. That's why it is a big deal folks.

I could care less though myself. We're all sinners, as long as it's not anything involving children and etc, don't see why people would think it is too sinful for a bishop to be.

Silvermaine · 08-06-2003

Quote:

The bible says that homosexuality is a very bad sin. That's why it is a big deal folks.

It's not being Gay that is the sin, it's the lifestyle.

So long as the Bishop is leading a celebate life style I'd see no problems with acceptance, I think alot of folks are just hung up on the fact that he's gay and is open about it. If he is not celebate but actively living the gay lifestyle then I can see where alot of the church is going to have some real issues, that could even lead to a schisim.

Lleauric · 08-06-2003

The part of Gay being a sin is old testament shit.. and really.. half that shit you need to take a grain of salt with (LOL get it.. salt.. as in Sodom and Gam.. ahh forget it)

If a person is a good person and is in a loving and honest relationship with a person of the same sex.. good for them, I think to look at it through Jesus words you would see that a person who is gay and lives a good life would be closer to god than a person who tried to enforce his or her own morality and intreptation of the bible on people.

mirdorr · 08-06-2003

This could be an interesting issue for the next few years; there was a somewhat interesting discussion of this on Graffe's back when Canada first OK'd gay marriages.

The pastor at my girlfriend's church actually had a sermon that touched on this, but he did it in a VERY stealthy manner. He was referencing the fact that other churches in the community were OK with this, and that the pastors of those churches were "misleading" people. When he was done, my girlfriend didn't even realize what he'd really been talking about. I'm curious to see if he tries to bring this up in the next few Sundays.

Silvermaine is correct, btw. I believe this bishop is going to be celibate.

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08-06-2003	#2
Ibudin Don't Piss off the BULL. Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 2,406 vCash: 1000	No big deal to me. Don't really partake in church, let alone the the Episcopal Church ..damn holy rollers. I did read aids is on the rise signicantly in the gay community though..so sad Ibudin

08-06-2003	#3
crappycleric001 Guest Joined: Posts: n/a vCash:	Sweden allready has 2 or 3 openly gay of that high rank, was alot of fuss about it a few years ago.. but it's rather toned down by now. Rather logical step forward I'd say, proves that atleast some people realise that times are changing and you can't pretend to be living in the years long gone.. //Izola

08-06-2003	#4
Haloface Illusion: Justin Timberlake Joined: Aug 2001 Location: Sussex, United Kingdom Party: N/A Posts: 4,268 vCash: 1000	gg...gaa...GAYS?!?!?! OH MY!!11 OH NOSSS!!! PPLS R GAYS??? Ah, the speed of society.

08-06-2003	#5
Thormir Decaying Deity of Misconceptions Joined: Feb 2002 Party: N/A Posts: 3,811 vCash: 1000	Well, the speed of religion in catching up to society actually. It doesn't impact me at all, but I suspect if Paul showed up today he'd have an apoplectic fit over it. Well, after going, "You're all still here?"

08-06-2003	#6
Lleauric Futue Te Ipsum! Joined: May 2001 Location: Connecticut Posts: 3,439 vCash: 1000	Its no big deal really. maybe 2% of the population gives a crap.. and those people are mostly in the South and Midwest.. New Hampshire is a very live and let live state

08-06-2003	#7
Toothy Draghkar Guest Joined: Posts: n/a vCash:	The bible says that homosexuality is a very bad sin. That's why it is a big deal folks. I could care less though myself. We're all sinners, as long as it's not anything involving children and etc, don't see why people would think it is too sinful for a bishop to be.

08-06-2003	#10
mirdorr Overlord of Old School Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,100 vCash: 1000	This could be an interesting issue for the next few years; there was a somewhat interesting discussion of this on Graffe's back when Canada first OK'd gay marriages. The pastor at my girlfriend's church actually had a sermon that touched on this, but he did it in a VERY stealthy manner. He was referencing the fact that other churches in the community were OK with this, and that the pastors of those churches were "misleading" people. When he was done, my girlfriend didn't even realize what he'd really been talking about. I'm curious to see if he tries to bring this up in the next few Sundays. Silvermaine is correct, btw. I believe this bishop is going to be celibate.

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