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Old 09-08-2003   #1
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But KMA deserved a response for this:

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And as for what Clinton did when he left. As I recall he balanced the budget.
During his last day in office Clinton issued 140 pardons and 36 commutations.

jurist.law.pitt.edu/pardons6a.htm

Most Notorius? Marc Rich.

www.time.com/time/nation/...02,00.html
www.worldnetdaily.com/new...E_ID=21595
www.msnbc.com/news/529942.asp?cp1=1


In August of 1999 he granted clemency to 16 FALN members (the FALN was responsible for 130 bombings in the US from 74-83).

www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLIT...ln.pardon/

www.adl.org/presrele/Tero...461_92.asp

In December of 1999 he pardoned Susan Rosenberg, a member of "The Family", a collection of violent activist groups responsible for the 1983 bombing of the US Capitol building among other things. Rosenberg was suspected to be driving one of the cars in the 1981 brinks robbery where a security guard and two police officers were killed. She was sentenced to 58 years in jail for possession of 640 lbs of explosives as well as blasting caps and automatic weapons.

www.crimelibrary.com/terr...ml?sect=22

Then of course you have the Clintons removing furniture from the White House(govt property) to furnish their new homes in 2000. Later when caught at it they sent back what the Clintons called "four items" and the National Park Service called "a truckload of couches, lamps and other furnishings".

"Clinton Shipped Furniture Year Ago" Feb 10, 2001 Washington Post

Along those same lines, the Clintons took art donated in 1993 by over 70 artists specifically for display in the White House and placed it in the Clinton Presidential Library.

pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nypo...THEMSELVES

Then of course we have the flurry of executive orders during his last days in office that I referred to in the other post. Clinton issued over 30,000 pages of regulations during the last 90 days of his Presidency.

www.probe.org/docs/c-execorders.html


Oh, one last thing KMA: Clinton did not balance the budget. If you recall it was the republican congress that pushed so hard for a balanced budget. It was their primary goal at that time.

www.usatoday.com/news/ind...bud000.htm
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Old 09-08-2003   #2
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Old 09-08-2003   #3
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Can you tell me the unemployement numbers before, during and after Clinton?
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Clemency actions are nothing new to the presidential game. While Clinton riegned atop the GREATEST economic enviroment ever he gave out 456 Clemency actions. Your right wing moron Reagon was right behind him with 406. This is no where near the 3500+ FDR tossed out, 1100+ Eisenhower gave out, or JFK's 575.

- Clemency actions" include pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, remissions -

On top of that, you need to look a little bit deeper to find horrible pardons. How about Nixon giving a communication of sentence to Jimmy Hoffa? George Bush SR. pardoned Weinberger, McFarlane and some others that were directly related to the whole Iran Contra affair. Reagon pardoned Wendal Walker who was in jail for 5 years for robbery. What ever happened to Wendal Walker? He went on to murder his wife and dismember her body. How about Ford giving Nixon a pardon so he did face any charges. Is that enough for you? You can take that PWNED and shove it right back up your ass.
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Why? Your head takes up too much space in yours?
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Old 09-08-2003   #6
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Wow. really hit a "liberal bone" there did we? Sorry The "great" economy was set up for him buy Reagan and Bush Sr. He rode the bubble until it burst a year before he left office. Now the Republicans must once again fix what the Democrats fucked up. Just like they did after Carters administration. Stick that pwned right back up your ass you sissy liberal hippy.
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Regan gave out 406 clemency/pardon actions in 8 years?

Clinton gave out 235 in the last 30 days he was in office. That's over half of his total for 8 years. Not only that, he bypassed the justice department's pardon process for several of those.

As far as "horrible pardons", I wasn't going to focus as much on this but if you want to bring it up..pardongate!

Clinton's pardon for Marc Rich was heavily investigated, being that his wife gave $450,000 to the Clinton Library foundation, $109,000 to Hillary's senatorial campaign, $100,000 to the democratic national committee, $40,000 to pay for entertainers at Hillary's Oct 25, 2000 birthday, and a $25,000 donation to the Gore-Lieberman recount committee. That of course is excluding the thousands of dollars in gifts of furniture, etc she gave to the Clintons.

Then of course you have the pardons of two clients of his brother-in-law, who collected fees from those people for pursuing their pardons

Did Reagon sell pardons too? I don't remember anything about him or Ford doing that. Even Nixon, a better president by far than Clinton despite watergate, never did such a thing to my knowledge.
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Can you tell me the unemployement numbers before, during and after Clinton?
Yup. Can you? Are the things Clinton did OK because he happened to be president during an economic bubble?

Or are you just trying to take a jab at America again?
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Yup. Can you?
Nope I can't that's why I asked...

Maybe I should rephrase so you understand..

Question: Does anyone know the numbers of unemployement before, during and after Clinton was in power because I don't know them and would find this number interesting.
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Use google. Or search this forum for a chart posted several months ago.
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