http://www.kutv.com/content/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=8e440347-697d-4bd3-8215-0b6572a114e3

Good lord, time to think about buying a motorcycle!!

Well, as your article says, as long as we don't go to war with Iran it won't get that high. Another reason to not vote for McCain.

I think you need to reread that article. Says the biggest factor will be the rapidly increasing demand in India and China.

McCain has been firm about his stance against Iran. That being said so has Hillary and Obama. They all recognize that we can't allow an Iran armed with Nukes.

All 3 are in agreement about that issue.

next....

bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran

bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran


Sound familiar Fanny :devil

Something interesting someone I know pointed out to me....
Motorcycles do get great gas mileage, but only hold at maximum, 10 Gallons....
You are still filling up all the time, if not more....

:(

But if we elect Hillary or McCain we can all save the .18 cent a gallon gas tax in the summer months. That will save me $3.60 a tank full, great idea. What will I buy with my savings...one wonders.

Here's what those nasty economists say (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080430/pl_nm/usa_politics_gastax_economists_dc) about our "candidates for the people"

Something interesting someone I know pointed out to me....
Motorcycles do get great gas mileage, but only hold at maximum, 10 Gallons....
You are still filling up all the time, if not more....

:(

Please go back to remedial math :> If you are filling up all the time, but for less, you're still using less gas.

My bike average 50 some-odd MPG. It has a 5.2 gallon tank. Thus, it has roughly the same effective range as my car, which has a 13 gallon tank but only gets mid-20s mpg in normal urban scenarios. The bike costs $15 to fill. The car costs $40, for the same distance traveled.

I don't see anywhere where I said you'd be using more gas, just that you'd be filling up as often, if not more...
The "more" in that statement indicates it modifies the word "often" indicating a measure of time, not gas....
Please go back to remedial Reading Comprehension.
;)

Uh, SAME DISTANCE TRAVELED. I fill up my bike and my car EQUALLY OFTEN.

Good job.

You are right, I learned something....

The person I spoke to is an idiot, LOL.
I didn't realize motorcycles were that good on gas.
Maybe his bike doesn't get as good gas mileage as yours.....?
Regardless, the prices are going up W/O an end in sight.....
:(

The point being I want to save a good chunk of money by purchasing a 750cc ish bike instead of pouring a ton of money to fill up my Avalanche!

Can't get rid of the truck too handy to have out here in the West.

Well in 2011 we can just go to Caracas, Venezula for our gas. Fill up at $.14 / gallon (well it might be a quarter a gallon by then) and ship it home.

Though you look at how great the public transportation systems are in Europe (where they've always been paying like $5 / gallon for gas) and you can't help but hope maybe we'll adopt some more environmentally friendly and traffic friendly techniques from them.

The US is just spread out more than Europe. Our industry is everywhere, we don't all live in a city. I think for the most part when public transit is available, its used. If a bus would pick me up from my house and deliver me to work, I would be all over it. Thats not the case.

The other day I jumped on a train and took it from down town Milwaukee to down town Chicago. In my opionion that is the only way to travel, I have done that ride a few times. Its $40 round trip. You couldn't even park in Chicago most likely for that. Then it was another $20 in cab.

Well in 2011 we can just go to Caracas, Venezula for our gas. Fill up at $.14 / gallon (well it might be a quarter a gallon by then) and ship it home.
Chavez massively subsidizes their gas, to keep the people happy. It's not really that cheap, even for them.

Though you look at how great the public transportation systems are in Europe (where they've always been paying like $5 / gallon for gas) and you can't help but hope maybe we'll adopt some more environmentally friendly and traffic friendly techniques from them.
That's all well and good for countries the size of Maine, but an infrastructure the size of ours is an entirely different (and expensive) animal.

I know its impossible for our country to entirely use public transportation - but even where I lived 1 hour outside of the city we had town buses and light rail ~20 minutes away to get into Philadelphia. Its inevitable that we can't continue our energy usage the same way we are now, we need to evolve.

I know its impossible for our country to entirely use public transportation - but even where I lived 1 hour outside of the city we had town buses and light rail ~20 minutes away to get into Philadelphia. Its inevitable that we can't continue our energy usage the same way we are now, we need to evolve.


Here in Utah we've just opened up the Frontrunner. Basically a lightrail that will eventually run from the top of the Wasatch Front to the bottom some 100 miles away. This is along the heavily commuted upon I-15 corridor and should, in theory, cut down on traffic.

Here in DC our public transportation system can get you pretty much anywhere you want to go. Our traffic however is horrible, because people don't want the inconvenience of sitting with the masses. So instead of investing in extending the "metro" out to Dulles airport and through other highly congested areas and adding much needed parking at the end of the various metro lines, they are adding a second ring to our "beltway" to travel around the city as well as adding toll "hot lanes" so people can pay money to travel faster than everyone else in their own car. Every day when I drive to my various shoots (complete with a truck full of gear - I can't take the metro) you see thousands upon thousands of single drivers in 4-5 passenger cars.

(edit: I take the metro to go anywhere else, just can't to work)

I can't wait to get out of my house in Frederick and move to Bethesda... no more 270/495...

http://www.kutv.com/content/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=8e440347-697d-4bd3-8215-0b6572a114e3

Good lord, time to think about buying a motorcycle!!

Saved myself over 10 grand, and stopped looking at used Harley's and bought a used Yamaha V-Star Classic for $3100 (with only 5800 miles). Figure to save at least $1000 - $1200 over the summer riding season in fuel costs.

Yamaha and Honda are definitely the way to go for reliable bikes. History aficionados might also like the Triumph Bonnevilles. Frankty, F' Harley :>

I just watched Hillary on O'reilly where she's still advocating taking away "big Oil's" profits.

Someone please explain to me how that's going to lower gas prices, because she won't.

Yamaha and Honda are definitely the way to go for reliable bikes. History aficionados might also like the Triumph Bonnevilles. Frankty, F' Harley :>


Triumph makes some great bikes. A coworker was riding one of the new editions of the Bonneville which looked and rode great, but traded it in on a custom built. I used to have a Royal Enfield before many here were born, which was very close to the Triumph line.

As for Harley, I have owned five of them, and love them. I just don't love the way all the yuppie stock brokers and lawyers and such all had to have one parked in their driveways to look "kewl", driving the prices through the roof.
Capitalism at it's worst. :(

Anyway, a good motorcycle will definitely help to lessen the gas price impact.

Yeah, I have a Sprint (sport tourer), the Bonnevilles are fun rides though. It will be interesting to see if there is a migration towards commuter bikes and scooters (whenever I visit Salt Lake City I am amazed at all the yuppies on Vespas) and the resultant traffic and parking changes that would have to follow.

Yeah, I have a Sprint (sport tourer), the Bonnevilles are fun rides though. It will be interesting to see if there is a migration towards commuter bikes and scooters (whenever I visit Salt Lake City I am amazed at all the yuppies on Vespas) and the resultant traffic and parking changes that would have to follow.


There is a group of Vespa riders in the Twin Cities area that call themselves the "Vesparados" (might be a chapter of a larger group), and many have really tricked out their scooters. They have little rallys every now and then.

I've toyed with the idea of a scooter or something but the whole messing up my hair thing on the way to work just doesn't jive =\ or getting bugs on my clothes.... ewww

..or in your teeth. :D

Or a bird in your face! Go Wild Hogs.

I would think a bird would be able to out fly a Vespa, but what do I know?

..or in your teeth. :D

no, I'd definitely wear a helmet that covered my mouth!

I just watched Hillary on O'reilly where she's still advocating taking away "big Oil's" profits.

Have to agree with you that this is election year pandering to a certain extent (and obviously, doesn't solve the basic supply/demand problem), but these is some justification to that line of reasoning here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7377812.stm

The oil companies may be 'struggling' to absorb those costs, but it isn't stopping them from making record profits. Some monitoring for gouging is clearly in order.

I don't get, however, how lowering/repealing the gas *tax* (which both she and McCain are proposing) will affect Oil company profits though, as that is only lowering *government* revenue, which seems like a pretty stupid idea given the size of the deficit we're currently are contending with, although it (gas taxes) also 1) disproportionately impact the poor and middle class and 2) contribute to inflation.

Regards,
Nydia

P.S. I *love* scooters (had a Vespa many years ago) and if I ever manage to end up close enough to my work as to make using one feasible, I'll pick up another (and am thinking of doing so anyway for short hops, although I'm tending towards one of those granny-bicycles for that ;) ).

Speaking of short hops. Leah and I are actually in the market for a wagon one of those larger sized ones. We plan to walk to the grocery store on Saturdays and pull our groceries home in the wagon. We live about 5 football fields away from our nearest market. If it weren't for carting soda, cat litter, and pet food we could probably just carry the bags. I definitely see more folks huffing it to the store in my neighborhood.

And, I think belaying the gas tax for the summer is dumb for much the same reasons. It takes away rev. from the gov't. I wouldn't be opposed to not allowing the frigging states to get asanine when they add their taxes though!

All dropping the gas tax for the summer will do is raise the gas prices to the point to make up for that .18/gal tax. Then when it's time to reinstate the tax, gas will then be .18/gal more than it would be if they never stopped the tax in the first place.

Here you go fild: http://radioflyer.stores.yahoo.net/rafl28alltew.html

The price on it is a little ridiculous but you can probably find a used one around somewhere. We were given one for my sons birthday and it has been used for many things other than to pull him and his sister around. Very durable.

Great idea btw.

Those things are great. You can sit inside them and haul ass down a hill....truly a thrill!

Walking is known to cause a healthy heart and weight loss...be careful!

I had one of those (radio flyers) when I lived in Laredo and they're so great that when my house was broken into two years ago the thieves used it to cart my computer off in it ;).

Seriously, the large tires and free-turning handle make for great maneuverability; my only complain is that they're a tad too narrow to put medium sized boxes/bins in for hauling.

I miss my little red wagon :/

Regards,
Nydia

And, on the gas tax, Taleren is right on - that savings will get 'mysteriously' soaked up in profit margins and then prices won't go down when it expires...

I had one of those (radio flyers) when I lived in Laredo and they're so great that when my house was broken into two years ago the thieves used it to cart my computer off in it ;).

Seriously, the large tires and free-turning handle make for great maneuverability; my only complain is that they're a tad too narrow to put medium sized boxes/bins in for hauling.

I miss my little red wagon :/

Regards,
Nydia

And, on the gas tax, Taleren is right on - that savings will get 'mysteriously' soaked up in profit margins and then prices won't go down when it expires...


I was watching something the other day about the proposed gas tax relief over the summer, and they gave an estimate of 300,000 people would be laid off for the summer as a result, due to no revenues coming in to pay for road repairs. Those taxes are used to fund road repairs, which I personally would rather have than the pittance it would save me over the summer.