A whole thread for Halo to be an e-freedom fighter. (split)

[Haloface]

I think you're hearing quite a few of us saying they don't like the idea, Sanchek. As good as the intention is, rambling and hijacks can invigorate threads and posters, they make it fun. I think a hands-off approach on regulation should be applied to this forum as much as possible.

Sometimes people simply want to chime in a few posts without an editor creating a new thread out of their opinion.

[Oipunx the High Elf Cleri]

I think you're hearing quite a few of us saying they don't like the idea, Sanchek. As good as the intention is, rambling and hijacks can invigorate threads and posters, they make it fun. I think a hands-off approach on regulation should be applied to this forum as much as possible.

Sometimes people simply want to chime in a few posts without an editor creating a new thread out of their opinion.

Sanchek's title isn't new. Not sure why this comes as a shock to anyone. Better to have a moderator than to have no moderator :rolleyes:

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5357/newsflashgd2.gif

[Haloface]

Oh I agree. And I appreciate all the work San does. But if he asks opinions, and argues against those who give them...

[fildien]

I have to admit it's confusing to someone like me who visits sporadically throughout the day. Sometimes I read something with the intent to reply but get pulled away b/c of work and come back later and can't find the post :p

[Sanchek]

Oh I agree. And I appreciate all the work San does. But if he asks opinions, and argues against those who give them...
I did note your preference for meandering, monolithic threads, but I wasn't asking for opinions on this one.

[Sixee]

Halo is a Grandpa Simpson fan.....
"We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I took the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones."

http://www.oldmansimpson.com/sounds/season04/lets/sound01.mp3

[Haloface]

You 'just go on the numbers'? So this forum is about quantity?

I always rather thought it was about quality - of discussion, of entertainment, of opinion (Jedd the exception).

Let discussions evolve naturally, indeed, don't fix a working system. We've never needed guidance around here, not even back in the rabid-flame days of 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq.

[Sanchek]

Now you're just being silly. You've been here long enough to know that I don't prefer quantity over quality.

[Haloface]

Which is why I'm surprised by your "it's all about the numbers" speech.
Ensure this forum is about quality, no more talk about total quantitage of posts. You're better than that.

Don't fix what ain't broken. This forum survived its orginal purpose to become a thriving community of people with relatively little in common but who nonetheless love to come for a chat. Don't edit or tinkle with that. It works, brilliantly.

Just sit back and enjoy.

[Sanchek]

Don't fix what ain't broken. This forum survived its orginal purpose to become a thriving community of people with relatively little in common but who nonetheless love to come for a chat. Don't edit or tinkle with that. It works, brilliantly.

Just sit back and enjoy.
If you step back and look at the big picture, I think you'll see that keeping this place active takes quite a bit of that "editing and tinkling". If it were untouched since the EZBoard days, I guarantee you that it would currently be defunct.

I'm glad you think this is a thriving community that you love to come to for a chat.

If you were having a chat with a friend, you would probably consider it rude if I burst in with a non-sequitur comment and ruined the direction of your chat. In that setting, I should wait until your thread of conversation was finished, before starting a new one of my own. Since there is no limit to the number of threads we can discuss here, it's even easier not to be rude.

If you try to treat conversations here with the same respect that you would anywhere else, we'll all be much better off.

[Haloface]

'If you were having a chat with a friend, you would probably consider it rude if I burst in with a non-sequitur comment and ruined the direction of your chat. In that setting, I should wait until your thread of conversation was finished, before starting a new one of my own. Since there is no limit to the number of threads we can discuss here, it's even easier not to be rude.'

- San, we're not 70yr old women having a cup of tea and biscuits. No one cares if the thread gets derailed. Honestly. Very rarely do people consider it rude. Most of the time, it is embraced:

http://ayonae.com/heres-a-shower-thought-t10639.html

Talk about wizards *and* science? Chop that up and it wouldn't have been half as fun.

Have various people come to you complaining about this aparant problem? Otherwise, I don't see the point of inventing a bone of contention and congratualing yourself on having solved some issue that wasn't really there in the first place.

I'm sure - like you said - there are many other things a Moderate needs to do. I just don't think anyone here believes that it is this.

'we'll all be much better off.'

- We don't need to be better off, we're fine!! Stop trying to better it all, otherwise the conversation will become generic and the atmosphere mechanic.

Heed these various opinions/warnings - whether or not you asked for them.

[Sanchek]

We're also not 5 year old children.

If all that you expected to find here was the kind of thing you're faux defending, you (and everyone else) wouldn't still be coming back. Increasing signal to noise is almost the very definition of a failed message board or newsgroup.

[Haloface]

Oh, look, we have doctrine's now.

You're addressing a problem that none of us have said is an issue and telling us you've sold it in our interest.

We want modders, Sanchek, not daddies.

[Sixee]

I Thought The Definition Of A Failed Message Board Was When Members Start Typing In All Caps.....

[Sanchek]

Halo, I hope I didn't mislead you into thinking that I was soliciting opinions on this one. You obviously do know exactly what happens when a forum isn't actively maintained:

http://fjutt.adm.gu.se/~fjutt/eq//phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8327

When the signal to noise gets too low, people stop coming back as often and then completely. It's really pretty simple.

[Sanchek]

I Thought The Definition Of A Failed Message Board Was When Members Start Typing In All Caps.....
Foiled by technology, eh?

[Sixee]

Yeah, I guess we won't be able to shout any more...
I guess that makes us "safer" but I'm not really sure how....

[Sanchek]

People who post in all caps are "terrorists".

[Palarran]

Or "capitalists".

[Fandros]

Rimshot for Palarran...

[Haloface]

'It's really pretty simple.'

- Indeed it is. Quantity over quality. Gotchya.

[Sanchek]

'Gotchya.'

- So, what you're saying is that Jedd's always right. Okay.

See, I can do it too!

[Haloface]

Wait - now I'm beginning to see a topic change. It's on the verge of (un)witty banter.

Should you begin the process of starting a new line of conversation by creating an entirely new discussion thread and directing it to the correct section of the forum? Perhaps we could handpick the best Ayonae Ro'ers for that particular conversation, i.e. Jedd for discussions on Iran, Fanny for invasion plans, yourself for 'discussion doctrine'? At the end of each month we could tally up the post count and congratulate ourselves on maintaining the dignity, integrity and quality of the regulated and controlled spontanaity of this community.

[Kelraz Bladesinger]

Halo:

Not that you're ever wrong and I should have learned by now its Sanchek's way or no way regardless of what the rest of the community here thinks.

Regardless of the fact that thus far Nydia, Filidien, yourself, and I disagree with the practice its Sanchek's playground and he'll make you play by his rules or go home. We aren't old enough or educated enough to know whats best for us, only Sanchek does!

[Haloface]

It's not his playground. He wasn't even part of the original quartet who set this place up. He's just a poster.

It is *our* playground. And if Sanchek were half a decent moderator, or if any of the other moderators wish to chime in here? There is obviously a considerable amount of objection to this idea that a number of this community find offensive. Perhaps we can subject it to a poll?

Not doing so will be hard to avoid the impression that someone is on somewhat of a power trip.

I'm sure I'm not alone in finding such a situation abhorrent to the interests of this forum.

Thor? Any input? Don't worry Sanchek - we know where you stand.

[Sanchek]

We already have a playground here. Feel free to post anything you want and enjoy yourself: http://ayonae.com/free-for-all-f18.html

[Haloface]

'Thor? Any input? Don't worry Sanchek - we know where you stand.'

[Sanchek]

I find your style of posting a bit overbearing.

Just sit back and enjoy.

[Bylimet Spiritwalker]

I find the sub-title of over-modder quite appropriate.

[Cados Evilsbane]

Perhaps this thread would be better placed in NAG or FFA, heh.

[Haloface]

Deleting replies that undermine you now, Sanchek?

You're in danger of looking desperate.

[Sanchek]

Halo, what in the hell are you talking about now? I'm quickly tiring of your pointless antagonizing.

[ainwein]

I personally think it's nice.

Too many people who are backed into a corner just throw out some completely irrelevant bullshit, and then people just piggyback and soon enough the post is full of incomprehensible garbage that is no where near what the original topic was about.

As long as Sanchek isn't editing anyone posts - who cares? I could do without the little narratives at the beginning, but other than that I'm not sure what the issue is. Are you really going to get all omg patriot act! on him because you're too lazy to ask him to switch the title of the off-shoot threads?

P.S. We've had this same situation with Sanchek on the RiP boards. He puts in the time and effort to run this place. If any of you want to do it - feel free.

[Haloface]

'We've had this same situation with Sanchek on the RiP boards. '

- What, people complaining of his over-bearing attitude?

'I'm quickly tiring of your pointless antagonizing.'

- I'm sorry, I didn't think we were asking for opinions?

[Jedd Corpse]

Hey Halo... This isn't a fuckin democracy, its a message board... Shut the fuck up already.

[ainwein]

You can call it whatever you want. I certainly never have minded his moderation style, and the only people in RiP who were bitching about it... Well, I'll leave that alone.


Again, if he doesn't add his two-cents, and he allows people to request a thread title change, I'm not sure what the problem is. Someone please explain to me why there is so much controversy surrounding this?

On forums like somethingawful people who make completely irrelevant posts get instantly probated or banned. I'm really tired of reading 10 different threads about Iran, all of which devolve into the exact same thing. Make one thread for that garbage, and let's keep the rest of the stuff on track.

[Haloface]

Didn't you know Ain, Sanchek has already ruled that there can be no opinions on the topic.

It surely isn't a democracy. And someone's beginning to look awfully like the Ayatollah. Hey Jedd, there's another person to have pillow-talk with.

[Jedd Corpse]

Didn't you know Ain, Sanchek has already ruled that there can be no opinions on the topic.

It surely isn't a democracy. And someone's beginning to look awfully like the Ayatollah. Hey Jedd, there's another person to have pillow-talk with.

What it really looks like Halo... Is that you spend all your time trolling and bitching.

Shut the fuck up already... Your more annoying then anyone here can ever dream to be.

[Sanchek]

Halo, you just aren't happy without someone's nuts to hang off of, are you?

I will not be your Yuegou. Move along.

[Malse]

The names change and the whines stay the same. If only we had a student of history around ...

[ainwein]

Sanchek puts in a lot of work to keep these boards not only running, but continually improving. Over the last couple of months he has brought a lot of new and very nice features to our message boards.

If anyone else can offer something even remotely close to what Sanchek brings to the table, then feel free to speak up.

If not, just shut up already. I can't believe there is this much outcry over him splitting some threads. Jesus Christ.

[Haloface]

Sorry - Jesus Christ has been banned, he wasn't posting enough. Afterall, quantity over quality, right?

Quite a few very respectable members (don't worry, I'm not classing myself as respectable) of this community disagree with the idea of creating the maximum amount of threads as possible, whether or not it affects conversations.

The Ayatollah is not in the mood, however, to accept opinion. Indeed, he seems positively confused at the mere suggestion of his 'flock' being dissapointed with his actions. As long as the Ayatollah, it would appear, gets to exercise his modding rights.

For a long time, a lot of people have commented on your over-bearing nature, Sanchek. I'm not entirely sure why I never noticed it.

Hopefully it doesn't get to a point where the forum doesn't just oppose you as a moderator, but also as a member.

[Jedd Corpse]

wow... Your still talking?

[Malse]

For a long time, a lot of people have commented on your over-bearing nature, Sanchek. I'm not entirely sure why I never noticed it.

If it makes you feel any better, he bounces most of the decisions off people like me and Rybit first and we usually discuss it like civilized people in private, with actual points and facts and numbers.

Judging by usage statistics trending over the past few years, it's been working pretty well.

[Haloface]

Oh how fun. Anyway, as I was saying before the thread was closed, split in half, and moved..

It makes me feel on top of the world.

As I said at the beginning of this thread [edit - the thread in NAG, I do so apologise if it seems somewhat disconnected], I have a lot of appreciation for the moderators of this forum, especially Sanchek.

His lack of interest in opinion and reaction, and his willingness to espouse a dotrine of quantity over quality, however, is showing him to be somewhat of an arrogant arsehole on this particular issue.

He - and anyone else who acts the same - must be reminded that you moderate for this community, not in spite of it.

When objections, strong objections, are raised, they must be listened to, not told that they aren't welcome. Feel free to bounce that off eachother, with as many facts and numbers as possible.

[Sanchek]

his willingness to espouse a dotrine of quantity over quality
You can repeat this until you turn blue in the face, but anyone who has been here for more than a few weeks knows it's precisely the opposite of what I do here. A fact that I specifically stated in this very thread, but that you just can't stand to accept.

If anything, your own quantity of trolling posts all throughout this thread and others lately is exactly what you claim to oppose.

Anyway, keep up the good fight, sir!

[Haloface]

'I just go on the numbers. When we split these things, far more total discussion is the end result.'

- Those are your words on the thread in the Real Life Issues section.
You stated them, and in response had objections to which the only method you find effective is to pull a "it's solving a valuable issue" card - an issue no one has raised. On the contrary, people have expressed their opinion that topics are more enjoyable and popular when various subjects are discussed in the same thread.

It's called conversation. It's called spontaneity. It's called rambling. It's called flaming. It's enjoyable, and the success of this forum for several years has been built on it.

It is neither robotic, generic or contrived.

Nor should it be controlled, manipulated or regulated.

I don't know what to tell you, Sanchek. It's called the human condition. And no one asked for you to pull a Cultural Revolution on it. This forum has asked you to stop fucking with their posts - it may do you good to listen.

[Sanchek]

When I speak of "more total discussion", I'm not counting purely quantity. For example, I wouldn't count your trolling posts on the last Iran thread as worth the seconds of our time that they irrevocably squandered. Tremendously advanced and sophisticated analysis, I know.

Are you seriously basing this entire circus side-show on your contrived interpretation of a single out-of-context quote, even in the face of my clarifying it for you?

You keep fighting the good fight though. Down with the man!

[Haloface]

Ah, so we agree. You are "the man". Perfect.

Stop digging. You're beginning to look desperate.

[Sanchek]

You're beginning to look desperate.
I'm sure I'll be sorry, but I'm morbidly curious. Is that some sort of colloquialism that actually makes sense in Brittan?

[Haloface]

Oh sheesh, he's pulling a Wayfarer.

I'm sure I told you to stop digging. But then, there is nothing good on tv tonight...

[Bylimet Spiritwalker]

I am not clear on why this topic is being discussed, since it was obviously a predetermined eventuality. There is not much point to discussing opinions and/or feelings about whether to drop a rock on your foot, if the rock is already on the foot.

And jedd, for all your bitching about Halo not contributing anything other than sarcasm and cussing, how about you read your posts in this thread doing the exact same thing toward Halo. Is Sanchek your new fantasy-idol now, seeing he has taken to defending you of late? You have contributed nothing to this thread other than to tell Halo not to contribute. This thread is not about your beloved Iranians, so who the fuck are you to tell anyone to shut up?

[Jedd Corpse]

And jedd, for all your bitching about Halo not contributing anything other than sarcasm and cussing, how about you read your posts in this thread doing the exact same thing toward Halo. Is Sanchek your new fantasy-idol now, seeing he has taken to defending you of late? You have contributed nothing to this thread other than to tell Halo not to contribute. This thread is not about your beloved Iranians, so who the fuck are you to tell anyone to shut up?

Once again you opened your mouth without thinking.

There is a difference between an idiot like Halo who interupts a discussion on topics of a thread to tell me to stfu, and my interrupting his bitching about how much he hates sanchek and his methods of moderating. He trolls my threads entering only to insult me, and then acts like he knows whats best for the forums? What a joke.

Funny how anyone that can have a civilized discussion with me, is all of a sudden kissing my ass, or my idol. Maybe you should learn how to debate, and stop frustrating yourself when you get trounced and have nowhere to turn to but insults.

This thread doesn't need contribution, it needs to tell Halo to shut up.

[Bylimet Spiritwalker]

Once again you opened your mouth without thinking.

There is a difference between an idiot like Halo who interupts a discussion on topics of a thread to tell me to stfu, and my interrupting his bitching about how much he hates sanchek and his methods of moderating. He trolls my threads entering only to insult me, and then acts like he knows whats best for the forums? What a joke.

Funny how anyone that can have a civilized discussion with me, is all of a sudden kissing my ass, or my idol. Maybe you should learn how to debate, and stop frustrating yourself when you get trounced and have nowhere to turn to but insults.

This thread doesn't need contribution, it needs to tell Halo to shut up.


And again, your little arrogant sense of self-importance rears it's head. I am not aware of Halo stating he hates Sanchek, but he is stating his opinions of Sanchek's decisions regarding moderating the boards. But you, being so attuned to what everyone is "really" saying, have obviously figured something out.

Are you ever going to get over yourself?

[Jedd Corpse]

And again, your little arrogant sense of self-importance rears it's head. I am not aware of Halo stating he hates Sanchek, but he is stating his opinions of Sanchek's decisions regarding moderating the boards. But you, being so attuned to what everyone is "really" saying, have obviously figured something out.

Are you ever going to get over yourself?

Self importance?

This thread is a flame fest with Halo acting like a complete asshole. I have been a moderator before. The last thing you need when you have to spend your time on something for other people, is some asshole giving you shit for 5 pages for how you do it.

If you don't like it, leave!

[Bylimet Spiritwalker]

Self importance?

This thread is a flame fest with Halo acting like a complete asshole. I have been a moderator before. The last thing you need when you have to spend your time on something for other people, is some asshole giving you shit for 5 pages for how you do it.

If you don't like it, leave!


If discussion is not wanted, it should not be asked for; and, knowing the posters on these forums the moderators know fully well how various people will respond to various topics.

You are not worthy of being on the bottom of the feet of most of those Iranians you so desperately want to cheer-lead for, so telling me to leave is little more than a petulant child stamping it's foot, and just as impotent, as I expect is the case in many areas of your existance. Now, Halo's comments were his opinions for Sanchek. These comments were a flame. :D

[Jedd Corpse]

If discussion is not wanted, it should not be asked for; and, knowing the posters on these forums the moderators know fully well how various people will respond to various topics.

I am pretty sure Sanchek didn't ask for the kind of discussion that this thread became. I find it funny that the king of entering threads just to insult me is crying about this. Don't cry Byl, everything will be ok muffin.

You are not worthy of being on the bottom of the feet of most of those Iranians you so desperately want to cheer-lead for, so telling me to leave is little more than a petulant child stamping it's foot, and just as impotent, as I expect is the case in many areas of your existance. Now, Halo's comments were his opinions for Sanchek. These comments were a flame. :D

How old are you? 50+?

Sad you still have not learned to respect others opinions. Instead you spend your time insulting me in every thread I post in. Do you enjoy yourself? Even Fandros whom I could not stand at a time has done his best to discuss topics with me in a civilized manner. I respect him for giving me the chance to explain my position without blowing up like he used to.

Yet civilized discussion is too much to ask for on these forums. When one former flamer decides to discuss topics with civility, another poster springs up to take his place on the hate Jedd train.

Your comprehension is lacking, and as a 50+ year old man, I am astounded at how dense you have been on these forums.

You and Halo are nothing but trolls... You interfere on good discussions with insults. I on the other hand Byl, like to discuss the news, and the topics we post on these forums. I don't like to see threads full of flaming about how the flamer thinks the forums should be, after he just trolled on thread after thread just to insult another poster.

Your lack of maturity and obsession with "Gotcha" moments is disturbing.

Grow up

[Sanchek]

Oh sheesh, he's pulling a Wayfarer.

I'm sure I told you to stop digging. But then, there is nothing good on tv tonight...
You know, I was actually honestly curious if that was a colloquialism that had some hidden Limey meaning. Oh well.

You can't possibly have meant it literally... There's not a much more perfect definition of desperation than your chasing after me like a junkyard dog, nipping at my heels; desperate for attention any way you can get it.

[Sanchek]

If discussion is not wanted, it should not be asked for; and, knowing the posters on these forums the moderators know fully well how various people will respond to various topics.
I wasn't asking for opinions on this topic. Never was. I was pretty clear about that.

I do ask for and value everyone's opinion on various other aspects of running the board (as evidenced by the various accompanying polls and threads). This just isn't one of those aspects.

[Bylimet Spiritwalker]

I wasn't asking for opinions on this topic. Never was. I was pretty clear about that.

I do ask for and value everyone's opinion on various other aspects of running the board (as evidenced by the various accompanying polls and threads). This just isn't one of those aspects.


You are the moderator, San, and whatever you decide to do with the forums I figure is up to you.

I am just having fun messing with our little Iranian cheerleader. It is fun watching this twerp get his panties in a bunch over nothing more than some words on message boards. Or are flames now not allowed?

[Jedd Corpse]

You are the moderator, San, and whatever you decide to do with the forums I figure is up to you.

I am just having fun messing with our little Iranian cheerleader. It is fun watching this twerp get his panties in a bunch over nothing more than some words on message boards. Or are flames now not allowed?

LOL you think I am worked up over this? You sure are full of yourself.

You have proven all my points by not being able to do anything but insult me :)

[Haloface]

Oh Byl, if you ignore our Ayatollah pillow-talker, he eventually goes away. Engage only to offend, and then drop off when he attempts to discuss "politics".
He ran away crying a few years ago (literally, it was hillarious) and left us with some peace when enough people did this. The little cunt will do the same again - that's an Ayonae Guarantee TM.

'You can't possibly have meant it literally... There's not a much more perfect definition of desperation than your chasing after me like a junkyard dog, nipping at my heels; desperate for attention any way you can get it.'

- If we're going all Wayfarer...I'm not really sure you can define desperation by calling it desperate.
This is your Cultural Revolution (and very Chinese Communist it is), I'm just here for the ride. I think L2 summed you up well enough some years ago: "Empty of ideas and predictable of action, I think that pretty much defines you Sanchek". I quite liked that.

If this community continues to grow, it will be in spite of you, Sanchek. People do not want engineered discussion. They do not want Generically Forumlated Feeling. But of course, now I am just repeating myself. It doesn't matter if people object - long standing members, many of whom I consider respectful and contributive.

I guess I'll stop there. Once upon a time I could have easily pushed this to twenty pages. But I'm glad we had this discussion. As I've said before, I never knew what all the moaning was about in regards to you. I guess now I do.

Chalk another member up who positively despises your moderating.

You're on to a real winner here, boy.

[Jedd Corpse]

Oh Byl, if you ignore our Ayatollah pillow-talker, he eventually goes away. Engage only to offend, and then drop off when he attempts to discuss "politics".
He ran away crying a few years ago (literally, it was hillarious) and left us with some peace when enough people did this. The little cunt will do the same again - that's an Ayonae Guarantee TM.


First of all genius... I got banned because of people like you who would resort to insults when they had no other angle to prove their point. People who are such losers in real life, that they think they are badass cause they can anonymously insult someone online!


I "attempt" to discuss politics? lol really? And what you do is more then attempting? Looks more like Bullshit trolling to me


'A friend of mine who happens to be a republican, constantly gets the news wrong, and argues missing usually half the facts in every discussion.'

- A "friend", eh?
_________________

Yeah nobody cares Jedd.
Are you like dating an Iranian? Otherwise, shut the fuck up with it all.

Oh, Jedd sat down and had a chat with the Ayatollah today and he told him that Iranian policy regarded the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq by American, British and allied forces as a "temporary inconvenience".

Don't play history and politics with me, boy. You'll be sucking on your mumma's titties before dinner.

Your arguments are so see-through it makes us all wince to read them.

They will fight to the last Iranian? Who are you, Chemical Jed'ali?

Look, the Ayatollah has a mascot. It's Jedd doing his Churchill speech.


Just an example of your "Contributions"

Now piss off kid.

[Haloface]

You have officially become my stalker.

It's weird. Especially since I'm nothing to do with the Ayatollah. I'm not even Iranian.

[Jedd Corpse]

I expected better...

[Haloface]

No, you expected a vial of my blood to wear around your neck.

[Greystone Thorngage]

List of People of Whom this thread has caused a sincere loss in respect:

Halo
San ch3 ck (omg ***'s)
Byl
Jedd

drop it already. PEople gang up on JEdd all the time and the kid has the balls to stand up to it. That is more than I can say for most people here. SAn why does it matter what Halo thinks? Halo, who cares if he splits them off, i would rather it not happen but hey, its not worth that much effort. And Byl you are the most disappointing of all, i used to hold you to a slightly higher standard due to your "wisdom due to age" but your acting like a kid in Barrens chat on WoW.

[Haloface]

Oh yeah, put the English guy at the top of the list. How Hollywood of you!

[Greystone Thorngage]

lol it wasn't intentional

[Bylimet Spiritwalker]

And Byl you are the most disappointing of all, i used to hold you to a slightly higher standard due to your "wisdom due to age" but your acting like a kid in Barrens chat on WoW.


Because I want to have a bit of fun flaming jedd, who seems to have the fortitude to take it much better than those on the sidelines wringing their hands, I am losing respect? Well, it must not have been much respect to begin with then.

We actually used to have fun flaming folks, and even each other, but now anything that is not politically correct leads to the type of posts like you have shared here. That is truly sad.

Regardless of how much good information jedd shares regarding Iran and the middle east, his manner of sharing it is extremely abrasive to me, and so I fuck with him when the irritation has become too much. I have also had good to say about and to him, when the situation warrants. If you, or anyone else, can't deal with that without losing "respect" for me, I promise you I am not going to lose sleep.

My only real question is why someone not actually a part of the "conversation" between two people feels compelled to insert themselves. I could understand it if I was being abusive to a woman or child, but if my messing with jedd tugs that strongly at the "Crusader Rabbit" in folks that they need to jump to his defense rather than allow him to hold his own (which he has shown himself capable of), you might want to examine your need to be rescuing folks.

If your opinion of jedd is that he is a victim, well, that is pretty disrespectful too.

[Greystone Thorngage]

i didnt say he was a victim, i just think people go EXTRA hard after him due to his difference of opinion.

Some people relentlessly even to the point of being childish.

[Rover]

I rather liked wasting people in the arena who were dorks here...much like I'm being a dork right now...my god it's late and I'm apparently rambling incoherently.

Jedd does have the balls to go head to head here...ya gotta give the man credit...he most certainly doesn't pander.

This was a pretty good flame thread but it doesn't come close to those retard idiots Yeugo and Palimax fighting each other over that zone with the guy who guarded the entrance to Vex Thal.

Halo is just a dick in general...but a good dick. Sanchek...I never quite understood him, never really saw him in game, I do think he does a great job here...he has kept things moving lately...ya gotta admit that.

I remember Malse hated Dashmoo and did his best to grief her and the whole of FD...was actually funny to be a part of that insignificant battle of guilds.

The only person I ever felt bad about killing was in the arena was Nekko...he was a nice guy in game...but he did pick on me so I hit him back.

All I can say is...Chenoa has challenged you to a duel!


OMFG...I'm tired...

[Haloface]

Wow that was a ramble Rover :P

Grey you've gotta lighten up. Byl is right - what the hell happened to flaming? That's always been an integral part of this community, despite Captain Sanchek's regulated and generic impositions.

And for fucksake, don't give that inflamed-cock Jedd any respect. What the hell are you thinking? The little arse-stain will keep coming back if you do that. Remember, just stick to flaming him, and he'll run off crying, again. Am I the only one who remembers how funny it was last time?

Sheesh.

[Jedd Corpse]

And for fucksake, don't give that inflamed-cock Jedd any respect. What the hell are you thinking? The little arse-stain will keep coming back if you do that. Remember, just stick to flaming him, and he'll run off crying, again. Am I the only one who remembers how funny it was last time?

Sheesh.

LOL your memory is failing you.

I was BANNED... I didn't run off anywhere, and as I remember I had a lot of support from the Europeans, but it was the pressure from the American members that led to my being banned.

Keep telling yourself that I "ran off crying" if it makes you feel better about not being able to refute anything I post.

Go brush your teeth brit, or they will soon look like Al Sadr's.

http://g2.wnd.com/images/sadr.jpg

OMG HE IS ACTUALLY A BRITISH AGENT!?

[Greystone Thorngage]

ok i had to laugh at that.

[Bylimet Spiritwalker]

Oh noes, humor has reared it's ugly head!

[ainwein]

i didnt say he was a victim, i just think people go EXTRA hard after him due to his difference of opinion.

Some people relentlessly even to the point of being childish.

This.

[Esbat]

The best part of this thread was that it was split off in the first place.

[Haloface]

Ironic, eh?

[Starrla]

I don't know if this is bad or good...but this thread made me laugh..lol

[Haloface]

Threads without a single topic usually do make people laugh.


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