Happy St. Patricks Day ! er venting

HAPPY ST. PATRICKS DAY
Hi everyone who is still around, pls to post simple reply if you are, just for getting an idea of numbers.
I was just reading how another person is gong to RIP and I swear it confuses me everytime. Long ago in a guild far far away , before I was even a twinkle in Sonys eye I had heard of a guild RIP who did dastardly things. There would be arguments that those bad type of things naturally happened as guilds progressed. EW did it to VV / IVM SoT did it to XA XA did it to CB and so on and such. Things like Ogur walls to block entrances, training KSing exploits etc etc. I thought wow I sure dont want to be part of that.
Later I was in my second guild and Holy smokes, there is RIP toons hey whats that dark wall coming towards us , OMG its mobs and lots of them ...Train eep. Lets see oh in VT they would use an exploit that allowed them to pretty much bypass stuff to get anywhere in zone as I understand it , they trained. They would spy on guilds and steal strat, while not against any rules maybe, isnt it more fun to figure things out on your own. They would even KS mobs by waiting till other guilds having beatin down SSRA / VT mobs to like 10 Memblur mobs then Nuke the shit out of it and KS.
Now finally as the game of EQ seemed to be winding down and our numbers dropped , I saw them do it again. Having been peacefully been farming in Qvic to get poeple armor upgrades here they come with usual trains and doing whatever they can to "win" . so I ask myself and its easy answer for me , would i want the Rot In Piss er RIP tag above my head??? am I that kind of person or do I respect that type of activity? Fuck no. Of course there are individuals in that guild I really like but somewhere people should be responsible and question leadership that would condone such behavior.
I commend those old who left Ayonae Ro instead of joining RIP. Also those such as who went to a lower guild such as LF to give it a try before succombing to the dark side.
/guzzles more green beer
well its March madness and beerthirty , sorry for the ramblings but just wanted to vent how i feel about said guild. I know there are not many choices for upper end guilds atm but you know , when stuck between a rock and a hard spot , be tough like that guy in RL .....chop your arm off : P


Riptorn Blacksoul

Makes me almost wish Riptorns name started with "Azz"

What? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

I think the message here is:

How did a guild with the rep RiP had even survive, let alone thrive?

And the answer would be: they get shit dead. (OK, I know I stole the line)

Dfrac

Duggan, I'm not going to even waste my time other than laugh at the sheer stupidness of what your trying to say... I whole-heartedly agree wth dfrac on this one :)

Good luck with your future rants, hopefully they shed more light on an actual subject, rather than making people want to know 'wth this guy is smokin'

I hear that RiP uses bind sight to steal strats from other guilds on the server that are currently farming Txevu. I bet they'll get Raffling killed next. Those bastards.

"Lets see oh in VT they would use an exploit that allowed them to pretty much bypass stuff to get anywhere"

Its called planting mages. Most smart guilds do it.

Can I make a long list of accusations about you Dugann that are baseless (such as the majority of your other jibberish) with backing them up by the usual shit that spews from mouths such as yours "uhh, loelz, they trained, cuz we suck. Its the only possible explanation"

As far as the Qivic shit goes, there was one train, one time, and it wiped everyone. I could see you getting pissed at a constant problem there, if we were training your l33t self constantly so we can get the phats for our alts. But a one time occasion warrants this crap? I'm sorry if your guild was in Qivic for over 4 months and didn't get you any phats in that time, while in about a month we pretty much geared up our whole guild.

You got one part of St. Patt's day right. The green part. Obviously your green with envy, so maybe step off the RiP cock and get back on your knees and continue to hum "i'm so wonwy, so sad and wonwy" with your thumb in your purty mouth.

By the way, paragraphs are your friend. They help separate thoughts and ideas, which apparently you had very little thought about the crap you laid down here. But hey, continue with the "They beat me, the beat me in getting shiny pixels, they suck, they had to cheat, train and automobiles" its entertaining.

Add this to your sig:
"It sucks so bad, at sucking to be me"

I'm a bad man for smiling inside when I see that random ex-FD guildhoppers are still sandy and bitter about getting so totally dominated in Vex Thal two years ago. You're welcome and give my regards to your therapist.

Jealousy is never pretty.

My therapist told me that Malse is the reason I hate my father. =/

I commend those old who left Ayonae Ro instead of joining RIP. Also those such as who went to a lower guild such as LF to give it a try before succombing to the dark side.


You can also find them in our app archive, tool =/

Lana ~ cleric with a bigger e-peen than Elrin.

So whose the wonderful person who posted such a lovely private thread from IVM's forum =)

So whose the wonderful person who posted such a lovely private thread from IVM's forum =)

Someone bitter they couldn't make it as an app to RiP ;)

They get big shit dead, lots! OMG! Pull your panties up dear...We're all through with you.

That appears to be taken from a private IvM forum and posted by an anon pansy. Duggan is a good person and a great player, to make his private venting public is a classless act.

Also considering RiP was mediocre till they got some ex-EW people, THEN all of a sudden started blazing through mobs right after, that every other guild at the time had trouble learning on their own didn't help much in my estimation of them. May be a coincidence, may not be true, but in my eyes, it's fishy....
As i said in another post, RiP has alot of good people, but some (notice SOME, not all) have gotten arrogant and selfish the higher they go.
I'm just happy i learned EQ is a game, and not a neccessity anymore. Can actually go out during the day and see that big yellow thing in the sky now.....

What EW people are you talking about Crystana? Your post is irritating. RiP started blazing through content around the time they got into Plane of Time. Since Time they have been on a tear. This is prior to all these EW people that came to the guild. Lleauric? Sabok? Don't really have too many ex EW. have alot of ex SoT folks and alot of old hungry RiP people. So this after getting EW people in the guild is a bunch of crap. Please to know what it is your talking about before you insert foot into the mouth sugah.

I'm thinking you must have server transferred or retired. Cause the Crystana I remembered, wasn't such a bitter old crone. Ta Ta !

:devil

Ex-EW people...
Lleauric? Retired.
Gekob? Retired.
Canonn? Retired (at least until he gets a better internet connection).
Bexie, Sabok, Ardemus? Ok, you got me there. Three active members that were EW members at some time.

Notice, i said MAYBE...I said to ME it looks fishy. But even you can't deny RiP has some members that have gotten arrogant and selfish that used to be good people. (and no, not you Trikki..:) )
And yes, i still play but am semi-retired pretty much atm till i actually get time off to do more than chat or group for an hour or two.
I'm still the same i think, but EQ now has alot lesser hold on my life than it used to. I'm not anymore into "The get ahead at all costs-everyone be damned" attitude that was so common. I'll still come on and raid on occasion if enough on but not going to worry if i don't log on for a day or a week. EQ is not worth the worrying or the hassle anymore imho. Too many other fun mmo's and games out there to worry about one that's past it's prime.

you sure havent changed Crystana!

<---------------Arrogant selfish bastard prick ( to steal a line from Sheur).

Gokuu has gibben us the l33t 5tratZ!!!!

Heh. This must be the last dying fart of uberness in the little corner of EQ known as A-Ro.

Well, grats R.I.P. You will probably get to turn off the light and lock the door the one last time. Perhaps not. As long as EQ still exists, there will be a home for those virtual swinging dicks who place getting the phat lewts over all other costs. With so few guilds left to compete against, why is there even a need to resort to such tactics at all? Did anyone stop to think that the reason why there are so few guilds left at all is that people are tired of this shit? OH, lots did. They are playing WoW now. You won the battle but noone bothered to inform you that the war has ended.

Anyway, as long as your membership is happy than its all good. Thats what counts, right?

What are you babbling about?

Enlightmen me with some of these "tactics" if you may.

The thread was total bs Lummus your going off the deep end there =p

Don't let the actions of a few mislead you. On the whole guilds have gotten along just fine in the past year, including RiP, IvM and Landslide. "Winning at all costs" type behavior hasn't happened in a long time. Unfortunately the few that still hold grudges (on all sides) are also the most vocal.

If we actually behaved the way a few people claim we do, there would be much more interesting stuff to read in this forum.

They are playing WoW now.


Funny thing that. Most of the folks I know that went to WoW have either come back, or quit alltogether. Seems WoW's content after you turbo level up isnt so hot. If you enjoy it, more power to ya. I'm content here :)

As for the origional post, alot of those folks you are talking about that server moved and such to "not go to the dark side"? LOL! most of em were sniffing here first. They'd just burned so many bridges their best option was to move so they could burn some more on a diff server ;)

/salute ;)

why is there even a need to resort to such tactics at all?

They didn't, just like they didn't 9 out of every 10 times they were accused of it in the past, I should know, because I was involved almost all of that remaining 10% (ironically, about half of that we were never called on because it wasn't egregiously stupid stuff like training the Emperor portal, killing Cursed Taskmasters to fuck up the spawn cycle, training people on RZ, blowing Coirnav and Fennin Ro, training Derakor the Vindicator on people, stealing Tormax after another guild cleared to him, trying to KS Thall Va Kelun, petitioning for duped loot from chat server GMs, and all the other extremely shady stuff we witnessed over the years). Nice to see you still self-delusional after all these years, though.

Maybe, when all you people finally grow up, you'll see that every guild in EQ had an equally bad rep. Half of them deserved it, and the other half got it because the first half was sore losers. You can tell who the first half was because they were always crying about it in public. One of the nice things about spying on other people's message boards (which I openly admit is wrong, and don't try to pretend I never did) was that I got to see first hand the internal spin doctoring and rationalization going on. Some of you are seriously twisted people, I'm surprised you don't meet yourselves walking around corners.

Let me just say this, for all of the wrongs I did to people in EQ, I never once had to lie to my own guildmates about it, and I know that's a lot more than many of the people who questioned my character can. So throw your cheap shots at the few survivors of the post-Omens attrition all you want, at the heart of it you're only upset because it wasn't you.

Malse, you know better. Big words on a public forum?? /sigh

<<<<< Foulmouthed Bastard Prick of Team Zilla' and PROUD member of RIP
(Righteous.Irridescent.Purplepeopleeaters) !! :devil

To cause more drama :)



Losing some of the people we did to WOW helped us progress easier. :D They were people who for months talked about EQ’s demise and did very little to contribute to guild progression. Losing such negativity only made us stronger.



Also considering RiP was mediocre till they got some ex-EW people

I beg to differ. Let’s see we were about 5th guild at time I joined (according to the Digital Dick Measuring Chart that was so popular back then). At time was sudo competing with FD. We knocked out VT and moved to plans. Then it was competing with SOT. We beat Quarm. Then it was those evil Europeans who were main competition. We beat Uqua. After time secured about 3rd in power pool (about cause basically I think we was tied with LS at the time of their problems). Then kept moving up contrary to what guess you might believe. Making Qvic when we were already in Uqua is not such a hard stretch. Guess times we kept doing Uqua over and over till we got it right would of never changed if wasn’t for oh our inside EW peeps. Must of used crazy strat from EW of "get the mob to zero before raid reaches zero" which is so classified. Inktu'ta truly wasn’t that difficult. Requires people to pay attention. Get emote run like a fool and don’t die (see you do this and others live longer, oh shit gave away secret strat). Real hard. See Mirror quit casting and hide if a caster (see I learned that trick after 1st mirror blew up and took my runes away and hurt me). RIP advanced whole time and will continue to always advance. Mediocre we would still be farming Elemental planes or VT or just breaking into GOD or something, we would of stayed stagnet. Before the problems other guilds had gee we was challenging them all except for 1 (because EW was so far beyond any of us). And we used the same strats as anyone has used since ohhh about Velious time. Tank tanks mob (usually facing away from dress wearing dudes), cleric heals tank (usually hiding somehow), other clowns dps mob (this where mighty chanter nuking comes into play), other clowns support the tank and clerics, tank dies tank2 steps up (Dwarves and Barbs always die), Mob dies, link loot, /gu we bad we bad (if a weaker guild you would use /occ for this move). Freaking L33t I say. Should post this on safe house.



And as pointed out what EW peeps giving us these mythical strats? Is it like how IVM tanked Emp in SSRA for us and gave us strats? Is it how IVM tanked FR for us? How IVM gave us strats for Rathe and Corndog? How IVM gave us people to beat Corndog to enter time? Or maybe it’s like how IVM was accused of helping us in time? Before when IVM + EW was cheering us on in Time to beat SOT it was fine, but now we are jerks? Or is it because of what was recruited in the last dying gasps was from the playa hata pool? Because the people who accused RIP of using/needing IVM to tank mobs for us and give us strats were recruited into IVM and took their predujuces with them? That couldn’t be the case could it? That couldn’t be why IVM peeps trashing RIP also seem to have little gear IVM had to offer, basically implying they would be new members (time rotting gear don’t count peeps).



IVM was a good guild for a long time. Sad to see them go. So now all you new people can go back to your old guilds and keep on telling everyone how evil RIP really is.

But will admit it we used EW strat to open nest for you guys. Without a detailed description of the event and told exactly where to stand and what to do we would of never killed that Dragon. Old strats dont work on him. Thanks to the imaginary duo of EW spy and IVM tank we won.

EW is evil!!!! EW is Dead!! Long live EW!!

What else will be the boogeyman in the closet if EW fades completely ;P

Fandros

To cause more drama :)

Must of used crazy strat from EW of "get the mob to zero before raid reaches zero" which is so classified. Inktu'ta truly wasn’t that difficult. Requires people to pay attention. Get emote run like a fool and don’t die (see you do this and others live longer, oh shit gave away secret strat). Real hard. See Mirror quit casting and hide if a caster (see I learned that trick after 1st mirror blew up and took my runes away and hurt me). RIP advanced whole time and will continue to always advance. Mediocre we would still be farming Elemental planes or VT or just breaking into GOD or something, we would of stayed stagnet. Before the problems other guilds had gee we was challenging them all except for 1 (because EW was so far beyond any of us).

Oh, if we're doing it for the sake of drama...



To really have a respect for Uqua and Inktu'ta you'd need to have done them at level 65. Five more levels and a whole new slew of Defensive/avoidance etc AA will make things a lot more trivial. Tactics and strategies come a lot more into place when you’re facing content for levels it was designed in frame of mind for.


And we used the same strats as anyone has used since ohhh about Velious time. Tank tanks mob (usually facing away from dress wearing dudes), cleric heals tank (usually hiding somehow), other clowns dps mob (this where mighty chanter nuking comes into play), other clowns support the tank and clerics, tank dies tank2 steps up (Dwarves and Barbs always die), Mob dies, link loot, /gu we bad we bad (if a weaker guild you would use /occ for this move). Freaking L33t I say. Should post this on safe house.

So basically you summed the complex strategies needed for 2 year old content.

Oh, if we're doing it for the sake of drama...

To really have a respect for Uqua and Inktu'ta you'd need to have done them at level 65.

One can infer from your words that, "To really have respect for beating content designed for level 65s, you'd need to have done them at 65."

How many guilds beat all the mobs in God pre oow?

I don't pay too much attention, but I'm fairly certain the number is 0. You're smart enough to conclude the rest of what I'm going to write.

Bottom line tho is rip members are having fun, rip is thriving, we're kicking ass every day and there is a smile on our faces. We don't break any rules, and we get along with I could say all other guilds. That's all that matters.

Drizzen killed EW >=(

One can infer from your words that, "To really have respect for beating content designed for level 65s, you'd need to have done them at 65."

That statement is assuming an awful lot. That's assuming SoE wanted all the mobs to be beatable at that particular point in the game, when GoD was the latest expansion. It's rather obvious that wasn't the case immediately, just like it was in PoP with TRC.

The matter of the fact is that the specific raids in question were in fact beaten by multiple guilds a long time ago. Either way, these encounters should be fucking easy by now. However, gloating about it is retarded as hell, given the very same was being done by people with a giant level, gear, and AA disadvantage like a year ago.

"ROT" for life!!

Well Tacvi aside, quite a few guilds had made it all the way through Texvu at lvl 65..which we all know the spells, AA, and extra 5 levels makes a HUGE difference now to go back and try that very same content. I remember beating Zun at the portal into Tacvi, then completely whipping to the first tr ash golem in Tacvi over and over. They changed that as well didn't they? Only need to kill Zun for access to Tacvi once now? Used to be every time Zun was up he needed to be beat before you could get into Tacvi. On Tunare they had 3 guilds that were in Qvic and two guilds into Texvu..and that was already June of last year.

This isnt the members of RIPS fault either but goes to show how much more of an accomplishment it was back a year ago already. Grats on your Dragon kill though, not many can claim to of beat it but then again not many play EQ anymore! and last but not least congrats to outlasting all the other guilds who thought they were better a year ago! (guess it didnt mean jack shit) :(

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the GoD expansion was designed for level 70. Just because you guys had to walk up hill to school in your father's pyjamas, doesn't mean RiP beat it in a "gimped" state. In fact, we did it when it was designed for the correct level. But don't get me wrong, you get a lot more respect for beating content designed for level 70 at 65 :p

Likewise, I don't think anyway with half a brain (sans Luurant) intended to post and gloat about it, believe me. Beating year and a half old content isn't something to rub in people's faces.

Certainly beating level 70 content at 65 is quite an accomplishment. However, I still believe Uqua is, for the average player, too difficult to overcome with standard raiding skills (Inktuta, however, is not). There are several reasons why this was changed:

* The player entering Uqua would need end-game Planes of Power items and equipment. Players would need high stats in order to be useful to the raid. New members of the guild could only be helpful after the AE debuff was shut off.

* You would need to seat some unflagged players before the hallway to the Barxt room. Most players who have never experienced the joy of Uqua will not be as responsive or ready to win the expedition. However, you would bring them into the raid right before your expedition is locked. (And Uqua does not let you be greedy; you can only bring in a few unflagged players with the right combination of skills).

* You would need to seat players whose classes are not useful to you. See above.

* Nobody in your guild can be away from keyboard during the whole raid. It only takes one member of your raid to wipe. Critical parts of the mission, such as the oven/gas chamber, will require every in your guild to look for a single key.

* Timing is critical. Uqua does not allow for many wipes, and even one wipe will make the raid significantly harder.

* Teamwork. I don't believe I need to explain this. However, even with the level 70 change, Uqua is not a cakewalk and requires everyone's cooperation. This requires good communication. During the golem/Barxt part, you need to form two teams, and you will most likely be using two cleric CH rotations with a shaman to cure affected clerics.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the GoD expansion was designed for level 70

You stand corrected. OoW raised the level cap, not GoD.

You stand corrected. OoW raised the level cap, not GoD.

I don't think he was implying that GoD was the expansion that raised the level cap. I think he was referring to the content. :rolleyes:

And more to the point Sony officially saying that GoD was originally designed for level 70.

GoD and OOW were really one expansion and designed for the players to be level 70.

Fandros

I see - i guess i then stand corrected :)

I'd have assumed they'd have released the expansions to be beatable without the help of the next expansion, guess they don't follow the same logic.

This is SOE we are talking about. Im not a Hater but they have realeased quite a few expansions that were unbeatable,hehe.

To really have a respect for Uqua and Inktu'ta you'd need to have done them at level 65. Five more levels and a whole new slew of Defensive/avoidance etc AA will make things a lot more trivial.

Believe what ya want, but it wasnt like we beat it with 2 people left standing due to the new levels and AAs. Once we got the groove, we beat it with more then 90% of the raid still standing.

Your point it moot.

A few extra AAs in avoidance wasn't the difference in a wipe or a win.

Are you kidding me? I assure you they are a HUGE difference. And btw and I promise you they were designed and tuned around level 65, not 70. The keyword like someone said OOW and GoD were once meant to be one big expansion, however they were split up and whatever mobs were tuned for level 70 were re-tuned for level 65, Tacvi being the exception since they didn't want people to 'beat' the expansion with so much time before the next one. Prathun is not a sadistic dev and is one of their finest in terms of understanding the player and is quite creative with coming to the table with new ideas.

Prathun - I did everything in Riwwi and Inktuta, and retuned Uqua
post-launch
Apparently Prathun wasn't responsible for the initial design of Uqua. I've heard it was effectively unbeatable in that state...

The orginal designer of Uqua ran off to Sigil just before the release and left it in a state of a total clusterfuck, Prathun had to pretty much re-work it from the ground up.

/suffers initial Uqua flashbacks..../flatlines....

It was an utter nightmare, and it only took a month of nightly beating and subsequent reports to the developers before we realized we were all insane.

Fandros

Hehe, Uqua was the devil. Personally, I somewhat enjoyed getting my ass kicked by Uqua. If the original developer of Uqua is there, we expect great things from Sigil :devil.

I really enjoyed Uqua. Cept that one time I unwittingly opened the door before the final fight and locked out some VF's. I felt bad about that for awhile. Got rezzed in after a drag away from the other door so I was bass ackwards. :) that's my excuse anyway.

How's EQ2 or WoW or whatever the hell game ya playing Driz?

:devil

I'm still here. iRivers own iPoos.