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NevaKnowMe
04-19-2004, 05:42 AM
:hat :smokin :evil

I am posting this because I feel anyone who will be applying to this guild needs to know a few things. FoD is not as great a guild as one may think, read this first please.

I used to be an active member of this guild and in my opinion all I saw was Radical leading the guild Jeanelle never did anything all she did was flirt with Radical. They do not loot on a point system if you need an upgrade you have to give them a link of what you are using and maybe if Radical feels you are pathic enough he may give it to you. But do not count on it, he is so one sided it is so funny. You have to kiss his pally ass to get anything and you do not want to kiss his ass you have no idea what Jaenelle and Strigori has done to it. LMAO :eek

They are losing members by the second and let me tell you their own MT doesn't even want to log in because he is sick of the crap. Plus they have members who feel they need to run the raids while the officers are busy. Few of their monks like to bark orders at people and no one says nothing. They flammed one person for asking a question in raid chat and said let the officers give the instructions.

They begin to flame higher guilds then themselves because they jump on a target before them. Stuff like "cock blocking" which is getting old and tired. They ignore some members and they treat some like dirt. Worst one of all is Naughti he/she whatever the hell it is lies all the time to guild members and about other guilds. Even tried to get a member kicked out for something that was said on the SoT message boards about him and this person said nothing I saw the drama unfold.

But do not get me wrong some of the members are actually nice, Baebbini is a very sweet lady and takes the time to help others, Toxxic who is an officer in the guild is very nice, Lyadana has a great personailty, and there are many others. Just think certian people need to know things before applying to them, I was so happy I left this disfunctional guild.

I think it is always fun to be called a fu*ktard and told to stfu, makes raiding great. Get out while you can if you are a member and turn to a better more stable guild where the actually leader has control.

I will be flammed for this and I do not care, just fair warning before applying.

Signed You'll Never Know:evil

AznDailow
04-19-2004, 07:33 AM
You could say the same thing about any other raiding guild. All of them have drama, good people and bad people in varying degrees.

Kernnunos
04-19-2004, 12:22 PM
Yay! Nothing like being bashed from a chicken-shit who stays anon...Fucking loser!

Bise
04-19-2004, 02:08 PM
It's been my experience that all the upper tier guilds have gotten along marvelously. I can't remember one moment of frustration or anger. This must all be some crazy GoD induced frenzy.......

And just for the record, how can a guild with the word "fellowship" in the title be all bad? It conjures up images of hobbits in my mind.

unReasonable
04-19-2004, 02:14 PM
A guild isnt Uber until they get flamed by anon posters.

Welcome to uberness FOD.

Buyza
04-19-2004, 02:37 PM
Who the fuck is fellowhsip of dragons? Never heard of them, they must suck.

Ibudin
04-19-2004, 02:48 PM
Lol Buyza.

Anon posters are pathetic:p

Baltyn
04-19-2004, 03:14 PM
Worst one of all is Naughti he/she whatever the hell it is lies all the time to guild members and about other guilds. Even tried to get a member kicked out for something that was said on the SoT message boards about him and this person said nothing I saw the drama unfold.

Umm ya....and this person has access to SoT's boards to know what was said and who said it? I actully had a long conversation with a FoD member about Naughti.....you have reality here *




Naughti here *

trimlock
04-19-2004, 03:33 PM
its hard to rhyme a word like vagina!

ThePerfectFlaw
04-19-2004, 04:05 PM
Everyone has access to SoT's boards Balt. =p

Slant Earthshaker
04-19-2004, 04:14 PM
How much of a pussy do you have to be to stay anon when youre flaming a guild like FoD. I mean seriously if it were EW I might understand it but fucking FoD??? GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS YOU PUSSY.

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

Lahle
04-19-2004, 04:59 PM
the post says he edited it.. How did he edit it if no one can edit in this forum? :|

Kein Bojangles
04-19-2004, 05:04 PM
Maybe he posted in general and an admin moved it? dunno

Sumamael
04-19-2004, 05:06 PM
the post says he edited it.. How did he edit it if no one can edit in this forum?


This way:

Edited by: NevaKnowMe (http://pub142.ezboard.com/bayonaero.showUserPublicProfile?gid=nevaknowme) at: 4/19/04 10:19

Sumamael
04-19-2004, 05:09 PM
Or Bildazar could be right too, or he could be a mod and only we don't know about it :p

Anterak
04-19-2004, 05:15 PM
Was posted in "guilds" first, a mod moved it obviously.

Baebbini
04-19-2004, 05:42 PM
I was going to defend FoD but that isnt necessary.

Thanks for the comment about me being sweet, however you will find that changes when someone attacks my family in such a negative form.

If you had these concerns while in the guild why didnt you voice them? Obviously because you didnt have the BALLS then and you certainly dont have them now or you wouldnt anon post.

Lame is lame and you take the cake on this one. :lol

giena
04-19-2004, 05:58 PM
WE KICK ASS!!!

How cool is it that we have our first real flame on Ay Ro!!! I'd like to thank the Academy for all thier help in getting this far.

I'd also like to thank the micro dick weenie that did the anon flame!! I'm gonna print this out and frame it, then I'm gonna send a copy to Radical and Jaenelle just so they can have their own copy as well!!

This is teh coolest thing ever. It's good to know we've finally arrived. Hooray us!!

Now, if you excuse me, I have some crappy gear to link to Radical.

Liper
04-19-2004, 06:48 PM
I read the first part and realised what it was all about.

"They do not loot on a point system if you need an upgrade you have to give them a link of what you are using and maybe if Radical feels you are pathic enough he may give it to you. But do not count on it, he is so one sided it is so funny"

Awww he didn't get loot when he thought it was his due!

Aulea
04-19-2004, 06:49 PM
*aghast* <<faints>>!!!!

<<gets up again>>

Huh, Huh, FOD what? <<looks around>> I go away for the weekend, and the you know hits the fan.

Wow <<looks up toward the sky>> there goes a Flamming A$$ *o%e always wondered what one of those looked like. It's kinda like the Aurora borealus, all full of gas and making color streaks in the sky.

Needless to say I LOVE FOD!!! It is a really great bunch of people minus the Annon person who wrote this, who obviously had a hard time fitting in with great people.

Your sig is half broken, and too big. Plus those lips are just ghastly. Refer to the rules. HUGS!!!! - Vhex

Sikle Bellamorte
04-19-2004, 06:51 PM
Oh teh horror. My guild got flamed by someone without the balls to post his/her/it's character name. Couldn't even do it in the right damned section of the boards either.

So we use the merit system when it comes to loot instead of a point system. Big deal. I've yet to see a person get a piece of gear that wasn't a decent upgrade for them.

And Radical doesn't lead the guild. He helps Jaenelle lead it. I've seen her lead raids in the past when Rad wasn't on. You've obviously never led a guild if you think the guild leader should handle every damned thing.

Boohoo, so some of us said some not so nice things about guilds higher up than us. Guess what, it happens in every guild in the game that raids even a little.

And like others have said, all guilds have drama happening in them, so why the hell bring it up on here?

grymy
04-19-2004, 07:11 PM
Neva,

Don't get me started!!

Zilor
Proud Member of Fellowship of Dragons

Dontaious
04-19-2004, 07:16 PM
Have to love this fucknut who came on here to bash us. You poor baby did we hurt your fewings. wahhhhh. cry me a river and ill build you a bridge to get over it.

Dont let the door hit ya in the ass.GTFO... Its peeps like you we dont want anyway. wiener!!!!!!

Cloudwalker21
04-19-2004, 07:19 PM
Reason, that was my thought exactly even if I am a member of FoD. I believe it was Deecee who first coined that phrase. Anyway.

Anon troll_01: I believe I know who you are, but until I know for sure Im keeping silent about it. All have to say is this: If you really were a member of FoD (as I believe you were, however short your stay might have been) then you would know if you had used your two eyes set in your empty-headed skull to see that Radical does NOT lead the guild in place of Jaenelle. He is the main raid leader.

OMG the difference is astounding!!!!! Jaenelle is the one who keeps us up to date on everything...status of the guild bank, strats, events, she manages the section of our boards where people post what flags they need and that IS a nightmare in-of-itself. When Radical is gone, she leads raids, and I'll be damned if I say they arent as good as Radical's raids, if a bit less...heavy-handed.

So, if your going to look for a flame you've found it but I can say you picked some lousy bull-shit to make up. :rolleyes

Alisdahre
04-19-2004, 07:28 PM
I am posting this because I feel anyone who will be applying to this guild needs to know a few things. FoD is not as great a guild as one may think, read this first please.

It's been my experience that anyone being flamed on this board or in zone wides are in actuality a good bunch of people getting flamed by some hateful, spiteful person that either jumps to conclusions or doesn't understand the simplest of situations. Someone backlashing cause a decision was made about loot in most cases. Loot that was probably given to someone more deserving than the greedy person who's throwing the tantrum, quiting the guild, then bad mouthing the guild on the boards in an attempt to destroy their reputation.

I've seen the guild name around some, and all your post has done is made me notice the name even more if someone with the tag happens to be on my screen. Hell, I'd probably /wave at them now.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
04-19-2004, 07:32 PM
Gratz FoD on your first anon hater ;) ...

And fyi, assigned loot systems aren't all that uncommon in guilds at a certain stage of development. LoTJ used an assigned loot system (and if you whined/asked for the loot, you would be assured of *not* getting it ;) ) for quite a while before going to a more formal system.

FoD *has* grown really quickly over the last 6 months or so, and such is always accompanied by growing pains. That having been said, they were kind enough to invite me along for my last flag for Sol Ro access several months ago, and I've had nothing but pleasant dealings with them thus far. It will be interesting to see if they can hold it together over the long haul, and into EPs...

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

giena
04-19-2004, 07:52 PM
Thanks Nydia :)

And we will hold it together, or else I'll start smacking people around with wet ramen noodles!!

Dontaious
04-19-2004, 08:13 PM
Giena.
Oh please spank me..:evil I leik it.. I also know FoD will hold strong.

Donni

Cloudwalker21
04-19-2004, 08:19 PM
hmm...for some reason that sounds vaguely disturbing giena. :rolleyes

NevaKnowMe
04-19-2004, 08:22 PM
The reason I am anonymous is because I have left the server also and I did not want to have it rich them somehow.

First of all, when you look at certian things when in a raid you see Radical is the only one giving directions, Jaenelle like just stands there and stares at sapce.

Secondly, this was not considered an "attack" on FoD, this was just a warning for people who may be applying you do not like a guild that is the way FoD is.

Thrid, I will admit that with out FoD I would not have my character to where it is now and I was greatful for everything but I could not sit there and watch poor lvl 60 to 61 people lose on rolls or not get epic help or grp help.

They claim to be a family but some things I saw were not family like. Like I said this is just my opinion and I have the right to it, if the members of the guild wish to call me names and bash me go ahead but it means nothing they are just words.

Whoever you think I am I can tell you, you are extremelly wrong. I now no longer reside on the Ayo Ro Server so certian FoD members will cheer. I couldn't tell these feelings while I was a member because I would have been shot down for my opinions, you see you can say what you want but dare not have a concern with the guild on their boards because they will tear up any member that does.

These are not false claims I just see what I see, some comments are my opinion which I am intitled too.

Btw, I would never flame a guild like SoT, or EW because they have class.

Signed You'll Never Know

grymy
04-19-2004, 08:22 PM
Giena, If you hit me with a wet noodle I will take you down to
old seb and let the entire guild take turns flogging you. Like
we did to zommy along time ago.

grymy
04-19-2004, 08:29 PM
The reason I am anonymous is because I have left the server

Your anonymous because you are a complete asshole!

trimlock
04-19-2004, 08:37 PM
omg grymy said asshole!

giena
04-19-2004, 09:22 PM
Tonight at 11: Giena hits all of FoD with industrial sized (and strength) Ramen Noodles!!

Tune in later for more shennanigans!!

Here Mdana, 'dana, 'dana, 'dana, I've got something for you!!

jutkendo
04-19-2004, 09:22 PM
/bye Neva Let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out.

BTW FoD Rocks :eek

Slant Earthshaker
04-19-2004, 09:50 PM
Zilor is an idiot.

Grumblin
04-19-2004, 09:51 PM
Haha you stupid fuck.

(Please also note that i dont represent FoD in any way, and is an outside view)

Firstly, Complaining that the guild leader isnt also the raid leader. You sir, are a pitiful newb. I'd have to say that without Radical there to help out Jaenelle, FoD wouldn't be as far as they are today. Last August FoD were killing in NtoV. Through Radical's intervention they now only have RZ to advance to elementals. Quite a growth? Jae is so stupid for assigning responsibilities.

Secondly, Loot. I must admit at first i was skeptical about the loot system, this was when they introduced it way back when. But having first hand insight to it, over the past 6 months it really has shown its merits. I believe this is the contribution for your server move, because really you have nothing else valid against FoD. 2 things, first of which you kill a certain amount of mobs per week, these mobs will generally drop 2 items each with about 40 core people in each raid, and 20-30 casuals that are in and out (not a flame to them). Some with higher responsibilities (Main tank for example) You cant expect that each random person who has just come off recruit will win loot, and frankly who deserves it more? My guess is you had been in for about a month and had seen no loot, this made you angry because you deserve it more than everyone else.

You were such a pussy that you couldnt handle Radicals normal raid banter and decided that he was also being unfair with loot (which i'm fairly certain is contributed to equally by the officers and jae) this was why you werent getting loot. Because Radical is an asshole!

Ugh fuck off you misinformed fucktard.

Aulea
04-19-2004, 09:57 PM
Oh whip me please Giena, I likem them wet noodles.

Let's ignore the Nevamore!








<<I have excluded my sig, and wait, I like my big lips.>>

dwurin
04-19-2004, 10:40 PM
<3 neva

Thanks for the flame, it made me laugh. I think Grumblin says pretty much all that needs to be said in his reply. Especially when he calls Radical an asshole (I need more loots pleeb).

Thormir
04-19-2004, 10:54 PM
That asshole Radical hasn't given me any loots at all. :(

Majiolis
04-19-2004, 11:36 PM
Havent you got enough from RiP already Thormir?

Liper
04-19-2004, 11:41 PM
I hate it when a guild tells me to do the solo/group parts of epics on my own. I hate it when they kill MM and get that lame druid weapon and tell druids to do epics on thier own....

you're right, it's f00king stupid for guilds to not mobilize a raid to do 2man - 1 group efforts.

polt
04-20-2004, 02:00 AM
Ok this is Naughti lol. Was not going to post here but a few people talked me into it lol. First off I know exactly who you are. Second you are as chicken shit now as when you where in the guild. Third you do not know shit about the guild if you think radical leads it. Forth I am really good friends in RL with Kegir are MT. He got laid off from his job about 5 months ago so he was playing alot. He just got a new job and he works most of the raid time that is why he is not on. Fifth They person that I flamed about I never asked to be deguilded and she admitted to me and officers she did say stuff and we worked it out and if you want to ask her she will tell you the same thing. And to close this all up you went from having next to no flags to only needing RZ for elementle flags in the 2 months you where in guild and you bitched all the time how you did not get loot. I think that is damb good you stupid shit. Also you did not go to half the raids if they did not have loot you could use or that would give you a flag so no I don't think you deserved loot anyway.

ieatmidgets
04-20-2004, 02:18 AM
I dun know who it is, so please spell it out for meh :p

Oh ya, its always Kegirs fault

grymy
04-20-2004, 02:55 AM
To the Anonymous poster and Slant..

You are both pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastards. Belligerent old farts, worthless steaming piles of cow
dung.


Figuratively speaking of course.


Sage Zilor
Proud Member of Fellowship of Dragons

ainwein
04-20-2004, 05:45 AM
Havent you got enough from RiP already Thormir?

:rollin

Jensae1
04-20-2004, 08:48 AM
ts hard to rhyme a word like vagina!
<3 Bloodhound Gang :D

jexmann
04-20-2004, 04:34 PM
polt's post hurt my brain.

Arch Lich Thana

ThePerfectFlaw
04-20-2004, 05:01 PM
Your posts make my teeth hurt.

Not really but I've been wanting to use that line all week. 8(

Sikle Bellamorte
04-20-2004, 05:16 PM
Yup, Jaenelle just stands there looking pretty during raids. Never mind the fact she decide what kind of healing we'll be doing (spam, cheal chain, etc.) deciding who'll be buffing what when, keeping a check on both the healers and necro's mana, helping decide who gets what loot, plus having to put up with idiotic tells. Yea, doesn't do a thing does she.

Dee Cee
04-20-2004, 07:17 PM
Sounds like she works hard.
Imagine if everyone in your guild had that drive.

Grumblin
04-20-2004, 09:48 PM
Spelling Check:

Are = verb, from "to be"

Our = pronoun, meaning in possession of us.

Many people (mostly americans!) use the former for the latter, please dont fuck up again. Thanks!

Daemankyl
04-21-2004, 02:54 AM
mostly americans :(

why our you so mean to americans Grumblin my feelings our hurt now. We americans thought you are friend. :(

Daemankyl
04-21-2004, 02:55 AM
oh shit did i fuck that up? :b

Liper
04-21-2004, 03:48 AM
Thrid, I will admit that with out FoD I would not have my character to where it is now and I was greatful for everything but I could not sit there and watch poor lvl 60 to 61 people lose on rolls or not get epic help or grp help.

Sorry this part just hit me...

Lose on a roll? OMFG FoD is soo mean the rig th3 dic3!

Windsurfer001
04-21-2004, 04:47 AM
So if I understand this post right: FoD is a normal guild, anon dude is a wuss who has never had a job and Naughti is a mental case, right?

/shrug

Liper
04-21-2004, 06:13 AM
Naughti is a heavily medicated nut case, but other then right on.

Daggerstab
04-21-2004, 08:58 AM
hehe Much <3 Zilor!!

Nice to see you guys went to FoD.

I still remember when Toxxic Leap Frogged us on VSR Like a year ago, all of DR flipped Lmao.

Even tho i quit, nice to see that you still maintain your sense of humor Zilly :-)

I do however still ghost about on friends accounts if i ever see you on i'll drop you a line :-) I'd say hi to Goewyn and Tumlaana also, but i think they still dislike me with a very strong passion!

Much <3

Fod is a good guild... gets my 5 fingers up..

Bylimet Spiritwalker
04-21-2004, 10:29 PM
Ok, so a little newb babe in the woods bought an account and went to play with the big kids.

The big kids already had their own way of doing things, and did not change everything to suit the newb babe in the woods on the e-bayed toon.

The poor distraught newb babe in the woods decided to rip off the diaper and smear feces on the boards.


Seen it before, and surely will see it again. Always the same ANON whining about the same stuff.



Bylimet Spritwalker Hierophant
Bytesum Spiritwalker Deceiver
Bytemyaxe Wannabe Slingblade ('Zerker)

Daemankyl
04-22-2004, 12:01 AM
1 opinion does not decifer the opinion of the masses. Though he came here to do "good" he did nothing but vent and waste precious minutes of my time!

grymy
04-22-2004, 02:20 AM
Whats up Dagger?

Hey are you the only one that got my response? I guess
you have to like Jim Carrey movies to get it.
Ya man, its been awhile, goewyn divorced me, and
we only talk in tells now.

Chanur Nailo
04-22-2004, 09:28 AM
<3 Z, you always crack me up!

Sothgar
04-22-2004, 06:16 PM
I am just wondering why anyone would flame FoD. Especially anon, they should have the fucking guts to show who they really are. If you are not on Ayonae anymore Neva why even worry about being anon? gutless little polesmoker. I was in FoD they are a great guild. Radical and Jae get shit done they may sound a bit harsh but its just to get shit going faster so everyone can benefit from it.

Sothgar Spongepants
65 Arch Convoker
Proud ex FoD member

grymy
04-22-2004, 07:56 PM
Hey, Sloth,

Why did you leave servers and quit FoD without even saying
goodbye man?

Sage Zilor
Proud Member of Fellowship of Dragons

Sothgar
04-22-2004, 08:38 PM
Well at the time I got moved, I was in surgery. didn't have the time to.

Sothgar Spongepants

MadMiddy
04-22-2004, 08:51 PM
I just wanted to say that I used to be a PROUD member of FoD, I have left a few days ago and it was not the way I would have liked it but it happened. I will admit that yes many of us have our problems with people but if you had had an issue with Radical or Jaenelle you should have sat down and spoke with them. They both work extremelly hard to make FoD a great guild, and the people in the guild are exceptional at what they do. You sir or maam are nothing more then a coward with a computer, like many have said if you had a problem you should have said something on their boards not an open public boards.

This /anon poster is nothing and a nobody he has no merit what so ever, he obviously has no idea what kind of people are in FoD. Ashame to because he missed the chance to meet some great people. /shrug!

Be safe and God Bless!
Middari

Liper
04-23-2004, 01:03 AM
I was hoping nevanowme would post, this nag is boring = (:x

Grumblin
04-23-2004, 03:31 AM
He may have...

Hey, Sloth,

Why did you leave servers and quit FoD without even saying
goodbye man?

because I have left the server

TWO PLUS TWO =???

Majiolis
04-23-2004, 05:27 AM
4

thormy
04-23-2004, 05:37 AM
I have to agree with you whoever you are nevah. Let me tell you little about my run in with FoD and why I think they will never go anywhere.
I am in Prism. Today we decided to raid RZtW. When we got there there was about 60 FoD in zone. They had killed half the spawns to him and we thought we would have to race them. When are full raid force got there, FoDs leadership told them raid was over to zone out RoFL.:lol
With chicken shit leadership like that they will never go anywhere. Group I was in was laughing are asses off at them. Then a few of them that would not listen to there leadership started saying stupid shit in zone like, "hope RZ wipes you" lol.
I really cannot see how a guild can get as far as they have like that. I would not join them ever if you are a guy you have to have your balls removed before you join them lol.:lol :evil

Grumblin
04-23-2004, 05:39 AM
at least they are trying it on their own

Thormir
04-23-2004, 05:51 AM
I can guarantee that whoever posted under "thormy" is not a member of Prism.

kuulaak
04-23-2004, 05:56 AM
at least they are trying it on their own


there is no try, do or do not.


Oh yea, and we did =) happy, happy, joy, joy


back to your regularly scheduled flame-a-thon

Razco Forte
04-23-2004, 08:41 AM
Who the hell is "Thormy" ?


Grats Anon poster_02 on this thread!
You have become Retarded (200)!

Carabella Valenteen
04-23-2004, 11:23 AM
oh nos!! Neva's new and clevah disguise and has been found out!

(I bet ip checks would reveal that neva and thormy are one and the same)

Torrk
04-23-2004, 04:03 PM
Today we decided to raid RZtW. When we got there there was about 60 FoD in zone. They had killed half the spawns to him and we thought we would have to race them.

That's the problem. This wasn't suppose to be a PvP game, but here you are forcing PvP on someone. They most likely left because they knew how heated it would get, and how pissed their members would be when someone tries to fuck them. They probably chose to just forgo the whole thing instead of put up with the pages of flames that would have resulted on this board after forcing someone who didn't want to PvP to PvP.

They'd be pissed cause someone is trying to step on them, you'd be pissed because they're not letting you step on them. Someone's guild would get a train and blame the other guild even though it was most likely their own damned fault. Accusations would fly. Shit would fling on the boards as usual, over misunderstanding after misunderstanding. No one would accept responsibilty of what really happened and blame the other guild. Drama drama drama. So they got out of Dodge, avoiding the whole mess you were about to force on them.

It happens every time. Every time a bigger guild forces a smaller guild to race, the bigger guild proclaims themselves right. The bigger guild could train the smaller guild, but it's the smaller guilds fault for being in the way. The bigger guild could train themselves, but it's the smaller guilds fault for being in the way. The bigger guild could do anything they fucking wanted, and blaming the smaller guild is always the way.

The smaller guild could be in force first and the bigger guild would call "no camps". Alternatively, the bigger guild could be in force first, and all of a sudden "camps exist", and the smaller guild is in the wrong yet again.

No matter what way you look at it, it's always a bunch of elitest pricks being selfish in an anonymous world.

If a guild is in force and actively clearing to a mob, you should have left the zone. It's OBVIOUS what they're doing. No matter how many times you repeat "there are no camps in Everquest", it will never make you any less of an asshole for trying to force someone to play the way you want to play.

Baltyn
04-23-2004, 04:16 PM
This wasn't suppose to be a PvP game, but here you are forcing PvP on someone

huh???

Thormir
04-23-2004, 04:18 PM
Torrk, as I'm sure FOD's leadership can attest, there is practically nothing in "thormy's" post that is true. That poster is a troll, not a member of Prism, and if FoD had 60 people in zone halfway to the triggers we'd have left them to the encounter with our best wishes.

Anardil
04-23-2004, 04:24 PM
That post you cite, Torrk, is fradulent. With a high level of certainty that was not written by a Prismite.

* When Prism chose to attempt RZ, FoD had roughly 40 people in Tactics.
* Radical was not even online (their primary raid leader).
* FoD never had more than 51 in zone, and this high point occured while Prism was in the middle of the script.
* FoD was sitting at the zone in, not clearing to the RZ script; sitting at the zone in doesn't give you the right to simultaneously mass force and claim an encounter.
* Prism is arguably the smaller guild, which I find highly ironic.

Xapp

Baebbini
04-23-2004, 05:16 PM
Actually FoD had 54 in the zone when Prizm arrived, regardless, what difference do the numbers make when clearly FoD was preparing for RZ? Leapfrogging comes to mind...

Noarm
04-23-2004, 05:48 PM
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Esbat
04-23-2004, 06:25 PM
Actually FoD had 54 in the zone when Prizm arrived, regardless, what difference do the numbers make when clearly FoD was preparing for RZ? Leapfrogging comes to mind...

Being "prepared" means buffing to move to the target.

I'd be surprised that PRISM moved forward if that was the case.

Sitting at the zone with 50 or 100 people doesn't mean anything other than you have a lot of people sitting at the zone. If you are not ready to move to the target within a reasonable time, there should be no problem with allowing a guild that *is* ready to move to do so.

Esbat
Retired Officer of PRISM

polt
04-23-2004, 06:59 PM
This whole tread really needs to die. Whole thing is just stupid.

giena
04-23-2004, 07:25 PM
For anyone still reading this flame thread...

Do I get to count this as two flames in one week, or since the second flame post was posted in an existing flame thread, does it only count as one?

Radical Twistoffate
04-23-2004, 08:05 PM
Ok..so I was wondering if this uber post of lameness would die on its own..guess not. Quite a few things to address.. I'll try not to miss anything.

First of all, still don't know who NevaKnowMe is, nor do I really give a shit. More than enough people have responded to you as it is, so no reason to have me beat your dead fucktard horse anymore.

Secondly, the shit in Tactics last night. I wasn't on when it happened. I was on the phone with a few guildies though while it was going down. I asked people to take screenshots and logs of everything, and I've seen them already. To Prism, I apologize for the crap that's been said towards you guys. You did nothing wrong. I spoke to Thormir last night about all this. There was only one thing I thought could have been done better on Prism's part, but it wasn't a necessity. FoD had been sitting at zone in for a good while..hoping to get enough in there to do the script. There was NO preparing being done by FoD at the time Prism came in. Prism outnumbered us (and yes FoD is actually the larger guild of the 2). FoD had high-40's AT BEST when Prism was coming in. I saw a consistent /who guild of the zone in logs. Prism went after RZ and kicked ass on the script.

Thormy, I have a decent idea of who you are based on the way you write and how nicely the truth gets fabricated. The only reason FoD would ever let another guild move on ahead of us is because we DID NOT have the people there to engage. It's simple courtesy and fairness. If we DID have the people, Prism would have backed off on their own as the honorable thing to do.

Torrk
04-23-2004, 09:00 PM
That's cool guys. Sorry if I was a little harsh towards Prism. I was mainly talking about any larger guilds vs. any smaller guild.... and the phrase stating that FoD was on the move when someone said Prism might have to race them set me off. But did not intend the post to stay focused soley on Prism.

As for my PvP comment that someone went "huh?" to, it means exactly what I typed. PvP = Player vs. Player. Racing someone to a spawn is a direct competition between "players", not mobs. Hence PvP. The game as of late, with all of it's racing each other to spawns, and the famous "no camps" rule, I consider to be PvP. After all, you're competing with other players more than you are the actual boss mob.

I'm not talking about killing other players (that's PK'ing), I'm talking about directly competing with other players (PvP). Most people mix the two terms together to mean the same thing. But if you look at the actual words themselves, they're two completely different terms.

The way I look at it, PvE and "no camps" can't coexist together. It's a paradox. One can not coexist with the other present. The very definition of one undefines the other. Cause if you're racing someone to a spawn, you're competing against them... and if they want the spawn, they will be forced to compete back or have the spawn stolen. For a game to be truely PvE, there would also have to be respected camping. That's just my 2cents on a subject that has bugged me for some time.

Chanur Nailo
04-23-2004, 10:00 PM
Well if thats how you view pvp, then this game has always been pvp.

Daemankyl
04-23-2004, 10:31 PM
too many different opinions and personalities on a game lead to leap frogging and the disrespect some guilds show others.

Greed to some is greater than a lot of other more important things.


I wouldnt call this game PVP persay cause its never 1 person that just decides thats whats going to happen its more a group of people some following some leading.

FROAKDARR
04-23-2004, 11:21 PM
I like pie! :p

Liper
04-24-2004, 02:49 AM
The mobs were cleared cause some folks wanted to get exp while we waited for more to log = )

Daggerstab
04-26-2004, 08:54 AM
Omg zil

Mail me with the times you still play i'll try to log in and we can chat some.

ladysunstrike@email.com!

Siludorf
05-03-2004, 07:41 PM
Everyone has access to SoT's boards Balt. =p

I don't have access =( can someone hook me up? plp section please.

blooddraw
05-03-2004, 08:31 PM
this game has allways made guild compete for spawns this is not new and there realy are no rules just courtisy therefore some will be nice some not so got to take the good with the bad i guess.

btw this is a general statment i have no clue what happened with prism and fod.

Liper
05-03-2004, 09:31 PM
ooo way to bump a dying thread, way to go fucktard.

Kornfed1
05-04-2004, 08:34 AM
bUmP hahaha

LadyStarrieDancer
05-06-2004, 05:23 PM
Sil...talk about beating a dead horse. :rollin
You make me laugh harder everytime I read it.

Reason, I agree with you. Welcome FoD to uberness! You have your first anon poster! :lol

Siludorf
05-07-2004, 03:48 PM
Now I need access to the officers forum!

LadyStarrieDancer
05-07-2004, 05:10 PM
Sil, hun...your on drugs. :lol

LadyStarrieDancer
05-07-2004, 05:11 PM
*hugs Sil*

Qwik
05-14-2004, 05:08 AM
<3 sil .. pimp sig btw ;P