DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - A Saudi militant killed in 2004 was due to have been the 20th suicide plane hijacker in the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, al-Qaida’s media arm said in a statement on the Internet on Tuesday.

Convenient link placed here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13288953/) to read more for interested parties.

My question is: If this is a fact that this guy is the 20th hijacker, then would it mean that Massoui's conviction is incorrect? I'm not a fan of the guy but right is right, and there were quite a few that stated he had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.

Convenient timing IMO.

Well now Rover, please to tell me you're not trusting the word of an orginization bent on tearing us down over our Justice system. Top that off when the tard claiming he was the 20th individual all during his trial.

Mad man love for ya, but this is pushing the envelope of belief dont'cha think?

Fandros

*Adjusts tin foil hat*

Very Convenient. Oceania is going to counterstrike at any minute.

If Massoui was innocent, he shouldn't have pled guilty. If al Queda wanted Americans to give credence to their press releases, they shouldn't have murdered 3,000+ of our civilians in cold blood.

And we'd certainly need more than just their say-so in any case.

My suspicion is that this is another attempt to slight our justice system ("The evil Americans have convicted an innocent man!") while shifting the focus of some media attention ("We're still here! Please stop printing stories about al Zarqawi's death now!"). Even if we were to take them at their word about al Muteiri, it still doesn't mean that Massoui wasn't also a potential hijacker.

I'm fairly sure that Atta would have used either of them if he'd been able to. It is fortunate for the entire human race that both al Muteiri and Massoui are permanently out of circulation.


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Well now Rover, please to tell me you're not trusting the word of an orginization bent on tearing us down over our Justice system. Top that off when the tard claiming he was the 20th individual all during his trial.

Mad man love for ya, but this is pushing the envelope of belief dont'cha think?

Fandros

No, I don't trust the word of Bin Laden or any Al Qaeda. I just asked if it was true then wouldnt the conviction be incorrect.

As Sandor said, there is probably no doubt that they would have used whoever was willing to go on those planes and in all likelyhood it is an attempt to take the focus off the death of that piece of shit in Iraq.

I think that basically Massoui would have done some type of terrorist act if he wasn't arrested. His rantings during his trial showed as much as that.

Moving on to the current situation at Gitmo, my feelings on the suicides there are those guys would have commited sucide most likely with a bomb strapped to them in a crowded place so doing it at Guantonamo just means that only three died instead of hundreds.

So all in all...keep Massoui in prison till he rots and the same goes for the shitballs in Guantonamo.

Moussaoui was a nutjob looking to be someone. A shitty sort of someone, but a someone nonetheless. He wasn't involved in al-Qaeda janitorial duties, much less 9/11. This opinion has nothing to do with what al-Qaeda has said; their statements just reinforce it. Their statements also can't be used to overturn his conviction unless they an appeal goes forward and they come to testify...which they are most welcome to do!

Very Convenient. Oceania is going to counterstrike at any minute.

Maybe you ought to try reading that book before attempting to quote it. Your comment isnt even remotely tangential to Orwells thesis.
Maybe this will help
The world of Nineteen Eighty-Four is built around an endless war involving the three global superstates, with two allied powers fighting against the third. The allied states occasionally split with each other and new alliances are formed, but as Goldstein's book explains, this does not matter, as each superstate is so strong it cannot be defeated even when faced with the combined forces of the other two powers. The war rarely takes place on the territory of the three powers, and actual fighting is conducted in the disputed zone stretching from Morocco to Australia, and in the unpopulated Arctic wastes. Throughout the first half of the novel, Oceania is allied with Eastasia, and Oceania's forces are engaged with fighting Eurasian troops in northern Africa. Mid-way through the novel, the alliance breaks apart and Oceania, newly allied with Eurasia, begins a campaign against Eastasian forces in India. During "Hate Week" (a week of extreme focus on the evilness of Oceania's enemies), Oceania and Eurasia are enemies once again. The public is quite blind to the change, and when a speaker, mid-sentence, changes the enemy from Eurasia to Eastasia (speaking as if nothing had changed) the people are shocked as they notice all the flags and banners are wrong (they blame Goldstein and the Brotherhood) and quite effectively tear them down.

The book that Winston receives explains that the war cannot be won, and that its only purpose is to use up human labor and the fruits of human labor so that each superstate's economy cannot support an equal (and high) standard of living for every citizen. The book also details an Oceanian strategy to attack enemy cities with atomic-tipped rocket bombs prior to a full-scale invasion, but quickly dismisses this plan as both infeasible and contrary to the purpose of the war. Although, according to Goldstein's book, hundreds of atomic bombs were dropped on cities during the 1950s, they are no longer used by the three powers as they would upset the balance of power. Conventional military technology is little different from that used in the Second World War. Some advances have been made, such as replacing bomber aircraft with "rocket bombs", and using immense "floating fortresses" instead of battleships, but such advances appear to be few and far between. As the purpose of the war is to destroy manufactured products and thus keep the workers busy, obsolete and wasteful technology is deliberately used in order to perpetuate useless fighting.

It is noted in the novel that there are no longer massive battles, but rather, highly expert fighters occasionally appearing in skirmishes. This may be relatively paradoxical considering the massive amounts of resources wasted to keep the war effort running, given that so few soldiers are actually fighting.

Now I want to make a Civ IV mod.


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