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Rover
09-02-2006, 09:18 PM
So the number 2 guy in AlQaeda puts out a video, in it he has an American member of AQ, both are offering the American people to convert to Islam.
There is a theory that this is an obligation by them to offer conversion before they attack. If they do attack should we nuke the mother#&*%@*'s?
The other questions I have are:
Is this a ploy as they might be aware we know of their obligation to offer conversion?
Is this a real offer and an attack is imminent? (funny they left out the offer before 9/11)
Should we convert?
Should we lie and tell them we converted, then invite them for coffee and kill them when they get here?
Osgiliath666
09-02-2006, 09:30 PM
So the number 2 guy in AlQaeda puts out a video, in it he has an American member of AQ, both are offering the American people to convert to Islam.
There is a theory that this is an obligation by them to offer conversion before they attack. If they do attack should we nuke the mother#&*%@*'s?
The other questions I have are:
Is this a ploy as they might be aware we know of their obligation to offer conversion?
Is this a real offer and an attack is imminent? (funny they left out the offer before 9/11)
Should we convert?
Should we lie and tell them we converted, then invite them for coffee and kill them when they get here?
Nuking depends on exactly what they attack... As for a ploy I think 99% of all Americans see through this as simple war propaganda. I could honestly say I have no idea, like anyone else, if this means an attack is imminent but I sure aint gonna worry about it. I'll convert if I can have my 72 virgins right now though.
Rover
09-02-2006, 10:34 PM
I'll convert if I can have my 72 virgins right now though.
Good point! But what if they have hairy legs and wear burkhas?
velvetsilence
09-03-2006, 08:19 AM
Hey, if they made it all the ways to heaven still a virgin. gotta be something wrong withem. =)
Reason number one why not to convert, alcohol is good for your sex life!
Ibudin
09-03-2006, 09:36 AM
If we can fit all the AQ in an area a nuke would be the best fit ..in other words no way they could escape. Let it fly! Or worse yet (after seeing the video) hold them all down and shave off their beards.
akipt
09-04-2006, 10:38 AM
Over the weekend I listened to a CNN anchor ask 'Do you think Zawahri might just be asking to be understood?'
Yeah, we're definitely in a "war"
Lleauric
09-04-2006, 05:04 PM
Ethical Dilemma Question:
You have a gun to your head, like the Fox News guys who were kidnapped. The Kidnappers demand that you renounce your religion and accept their religion in order to have your life spared.
Do you do it?
By extention, if you said no.
Same scenario, except the kidnappers have a gun to the head of your wife or children. Do you still renounce your god and accept their religion?
Bylimet Spiritwalker
09-04-2006, 05:35 PM
Ethical Dilemma Question:
You have a gun to your head, like the Fox News guys who were kidnapped. The Kidnappers demand that you renounce your religion and accept their religion in order to have your life spared.
Do you do it?
By extention, if you said no.
Same scenario, except the kidnappers have a gun to the head of your wife or children. Do you still renounce your god and accept their religion?
You could refuse to convert, thereby becoming a martyr by dying for your faith in the eyes of some. However, would that not also consitute a form of suicide, since the choice was yours to live or die, and therefore you would lose your chance to enter heaven?
Interesting dilemna.
Rover
09-04-2006, 09:12 PM
Ethical Dilemma Question:
You have a gun to your head, like the Fox News guys who were kidnapped. The Kidnappers demand that you renounce your religion and accept their religion in order to have your life spared.
Do you do it?
By extention, if you said no.
Same scenario, except the kidnappers have a gun to the head of your wife or children. Do you still renounce your god and accept their religion?
I would say what they wanted me to say to spare my own life and the lives of the ones I love. It is mearly words that are being spoken....it doesn't reflect your true feelings.
If God exists as we beleive he does it would be a situation that I'm sure God would find to be understandable.
Ibudin
09-05-2006, 05:49 AM
I dont think so Rover, if you have true faith you would never denounce god and except anything else. You can't pick and choose no matter what the circumstances are. At least thats what I am lead to believe, maybe some of the other religous people on this forum can back that up.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
09-05-2006, 07:03 AM
I dont think so Rover, if you have true faith you would never denounce god and except anything else.
I think you are missing the part where Rover is saying he would not be denouncing God, but merely mouthing the words his captors wanted to hear.
Knowing in your heart what it is you truly believe in and saying something other than that to achieve a goal, such as remaining alive in this case, does not mean anything else is being accepted. Heck, it is second nature for politicians.......hmmm, gonna have to watch Rover more closely.
Ibudin
09-05-2006, 07:37 AM
I am not missing the part, I simply believe you cannot do what you wish, your a believer and thats it. Do you cross your fingers when saying you convert? Lol...After all most of those who are deeply faithful believe that life starts in the after life.
Tranzure
09-05-2006, 08:57 AM
75% of Berkley is already converted... Can we just send them to AQ?
An AQ attack right now would be the worst thing they could do.
Sixee
09-05-2006, 09:07 AM
I thought it was 72 Vriginians?
:P
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