View Full Version : Ann Coulter on the Oscars..good call Ann.
Osgiliath666
03-05-2006, 08:12 PM
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Ibudin
03-05-2006, 09:26 PM
I never watch the Oscars..but at any rate crash was a cool movie but really didn't think it was Oscar material. I would like to see Munich as well.
Kelraz Bladesinger
03-06-2006, 04:59 AM
Man that Ann Coulter is one crazy bitch.
Brokeback Mountain was a very well directed film, despite what that nutzo thinks. The academy is made up of lots of really old filmmakers who could care less about getting their political agenda accross -- as one of my mentors put it (who voted for this year's Oscars) "I'll be dying in a few years anyway so it won't matter for me. I just care about the art." She's just too stupid to look past the fact that homosexuality, racism, and all these issues are STILL popular culture for a reason.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
03-06-2006, 07:04 AM
When you look as hideous as Ms Coulter it is reasonable to expect that spewing venom will be your chosen calling, as it is one of the few ways of making others appear to be less than yourself.
She is simply one more hate-filled WASP that the Republican party needs to learn to do without if they are going to get folks to come back to them.
BTW: I did win some cash on my bet that Crash would beat out Brokeback Mt.
fildien
03-06-2006, 08:20 AM
The Oscars were last night? Who gives a flying leap about the Oscars? Oh....people like Ann Coulter. Well..... enough for her to write about it anyway whatever her remarks might have been. I don't even have to read it to know what she said.
"Hollywood is gay and love fags!"
Dumb bitch.
The Liberals vs. The Conservatives argument here is doing well enough without dragging this "old bag" into it. Next thing you know someone is going to start quoting Jesse Jackson or Al opinions and columns.
Fandros
03-06-2006, 08:23 AM
Ole Kelraz knows alot of folks in the video/filming industry and perhaps is too close to the fact that very few folks went to see that flick for a reason.
There is one line in Coulters diatrabe that I do find to ring true.
Something like...once the love that dared not speak it's name , it's now the love that won't shut up.
It's being forced down our throats anymore. The very squeaky minority is somehow becoming the ruling factor in our culture's choice of topics.
If it was so beautifully directed why not make it a traditional movie and leave off the homosexuality factor? Ang Lee has plenty of skill that he could've done a great job regardless.
I'll tell you why, because it's controversial they were hoping it would sell....it did, to a bunch of old out of touch voters that have no clue what we want.
Fandros
Rover
03-06-2006, 08:37 AM
Yeah good call Ann...you were almost right.
Coulter doesnt realize that her paranoia is just that...paranoia.
People freak about the content of movies, tv shows, radio, books etc..
Change the channel, don't buy the book or don't go to see the movie...really...its that simple.
Fandros
03-06-2006, 08:54 AM
Exactly Rover, I won't go see it for that reason. I don't doubt it was skillfully done. But the fact that the Oscars always seem to fall to movies noone wants to see alone tells you it's out of touch....not that big of deal...failing enterprise....
My Left Foot....
Piano Teacher...
Brokeback mountain....
huge winners....huge blackholes of capital....pun slightly intended...;P
I think it was Byl who said it best....Coulter is a WASP the right doesn't need. She's as shrill as the likes of Kerry and H. Clinton ( who just found out her hubby helped broker the UAE port deal..../laugh)
Fandros
Selwen Soulgazer
03-06-2006, 09:37 AM
She definately came off as a homophobe.
The thing I dont understand, is that shes bitching that these movies are getting oscar nominations, but she has not watched any of them. How would she know if they are worthy or not?
Rover
03-06-2006, 09:38 AM
A bit of a derail here...sorry.
H. Clinton ( who just found out her hubby helped broker the UAE port deal..../laugh)
Which will turn into "I agree with him while still disagreeing with him."
Does anyone else notice that our government seems to more and more resemble the Mafia in structure and ass covering? Or is it just me?
Thormir
03-06-2006, 09:38 AM
The Oscars aren't meant to be a popularity contest, insofar as ticket sales = trophies. And it wouldn't matter either way. If a big ticket seller comes out the winner, Hollywood is "pandering to the lowest common denominator and forgetting about art." If the winners didn't make an impression at the box office, Hollywood "is out of touch with America." Right wingers will whine about it either way.
And Coulter runs far closer to the likes of Fred Phelps than Clinton or Kerry. They don't come much more vile and inciteful than she. No surprise that Osg is a fan.
Fandros
03-06-2006, 10:01 AM
Okay, how about we compare Coulter to Michael Moore?
I'm not talking about far left/right...I'm talking about mouthpieces neither party needs. ;)
Fandros
Thormir
03-06-2006, 10:18 AM
Well in that respect, sure. I was resonding to your use of "shrill" (though that's not the word I'd use in regard to Ms. Coulter).
Kelraz Bladesinger
03-06-2006, 11:33 AM
She's just jealous her counter-part won a few Oscars :(
I think Thormir put it best though about how the Oscars are supposed to run. And honestly, who cares if its sensational. Just because Schindler's List dealt with a sensational topic ... does that mean its not art? If Brokeback Mountain was about straight cowboys ... would they then be deserving of an Oscar? Yes part of the reason it won the Oscar is because it touched on a topic that frankly needs to be touched on. There have been plenty of homosexually themed flops too ... this is just a good one with a topic Miss Coulter doesn't like and therefore its the ONLY reason it one.
Sixee
03-06-2006, 01:21 PM
I agree with the if you don't like it, don't watch it line of thinking.
Turn the channel if you don't like what's on, don't tell others what they should or should not watch.
I personally won't go to see Brokeback Mountain. I like Cowboy movies, but I'm not particularly interested in seeing a love story involving 2 men. That's MY choice, and I wouldn't push that on anyone else.
But I think the shoving it down our throats (pardon the colorful description *ahem*) is true as well.
Homosexuals are a minority of the population. Does that mean they don't matter? Certainly not. Does it mean that every show on tv should have the screaming, limp wristed caracature queer that everyone is used to? No again.
I don't think what people do in thier bedrooms should be public knowledge, to be honest. I don't condone public acts of affection whether its homo or hetero. Keep bedroom stuff in the bedroom, or behind closed doors.
Rover
03-06-2006, 01:49 PM
I don't condone public acts of affection whether its homo or hetero.
I disagree with this here. I am in complete favor of public acts of affection by female homosexuals.
Sixee
03-06-2006, 02:46 PM
Actually, not many "real life" lesbians are very attractive.
A lot of "Bull Dykes" have more hair than I do.
Sorry, not something I'm wanting to see in Real Life.
The Fantasy world of Adult films, however is a different story :D
Haloface
03-06-2006, 02:48 PM
Call me bias, but give me the humour of the BAFTA's over the vanity and shallowness of the Oscar's, any day.
fildien
03-06-2006, 02:54 PM
Actually, not many "real life" lesbians are very attractive.
A lot of "Bull Dykes" have more hair than I do.
Sorry, not something I'm wanting to see in Real Life.
The Fantasy world of Adult films, however is a different story :D
hahaha what rock have you been living under? I love it when people stereotype. I'll have to drop you a few pics of some friends of mine who are lesbians and who totally debunk this. ;)
Selwen Soulgazer
03-06-2006, 03:01 PM
I'll take some Fil :p
Fandros
03-06-2006, 03:03 PM
Have two gal friends that are definately not hetero and both would have the common man drooling if they gave him the time of day.
Fandros
Sixee
03-06-2006, 03:04 PM
LOL I said GENERALLY!!!!!
I've met many lesbians over the years, and I understand the "Femmes" and "Butches".
Femmes are yummy, generally. Butches, I've met a few pretty 1's, but not many. :\
fildien
03-06-2006, 04:07 PM
Naw you didn't say generally. In any case check yer mail :p And next time remember you live in podunk deep south where women's looks are ummm well dependant on how many she has.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
03-06-2006, 04:36 PM
Okay, how about we compare Coulter to Michael Moore?
I'm not talking about far left/right...I'm talking about mouthpieces neither party needs. ;)
Fandros
Completely agree.
And, I have not seen any of the movies nominated last night either, but I bet on Crash winning because I think most folks would be more comfortable talking today about race relations than about Gay issues, and I figured even the Hollywood voting machine would understand that.
Going to add Crash, Munich, Syrianna, and Good Night and Good Luck to my Netflix list, I think.
mirdorr
03-06-2006, 05:34 PM
My wife is hte only person I know who saw both Crash and Brokeback Mountain. For some reason, Crash didn't seem to stay in theaters long here (Chicagoland).
She couldn't understand all the Oscar hype behind Brokeback. She thought it was a nice movie, but certainly not great.
I just said "Hey, remember the hype about 'Philadelphia'?"
Sixee
03-07-2006, 07:33 AM
Philadelphia was a really good movie. I guess I just don't understand all the hoopla about gay cowboys.
In Philadelphia you wound up caring about Tom Hank's character. The fact that he was gay was almost trivial. He was a dying human being, and you genuinely felt touched by his passing, and the effect that passing had on others.
Gay cowboys? What's next? Gay Jedis?
It just seems too far of a stretch to me.
Haloface
03-07-2006, 07:53 AM
Oh my GOSH. Cowboys could be like, what, totally gay? Oh my gosh. Nuh uh. Too much to comprehend. Like, whatever.
Anterak
03-07-2006, 08:03 AM
Philadelphia was a really good movie. I guess I just don't understand all the hoopla about gay cowboys.
In Philadelphia you wound up caring about Tom Hank's character. The fact that he was gay was almost trivial. He was a dying human being, and you genuinely felt touched by his passing, and the effect that passing had on others.
Gay cowboys? What's next? Gay Jedis?
It just seems too far of a stretch to me.
I didn't watch the movie yet, but a good friend and trusty when it comes to movies who made the exact same comment for Brokeback mts. The fact that they are gay was "trivial".
Sixee
03-07-2006, 08:04 AM
Have you ever met a gay cowboy Halo? I can say I haven't.
It just seems to me to be the sort of thing that would be outlandish. Kind of like the sort of thing you'd see on Monty Python to get a laugh, only somebody was trying to make it serious.
"Insert something obtuse and intellectual sounding in between these quote marks to make people on the boards respect you."
- Sixee Ranjah, "Ay Ro Boards"
Bylimet Spiritwalker
03-07-2006, 08:29 AM
I think Graham Chapman played a cowboy in a Monty Python sketch, so it is quite possible that Halo has seen a gay cowboy.
Thormir
03-07-2006, 10:28 AM
And, I have not seen any of the movies nominated last night either, but I bet on Crash winning because I think most folks would be more comfortable talking today about race relations than about Gay issues, and I figured even the Hollywood voting machine would understand that.
I disagree. My thought is that both films enjoyed a lot of appeal among the voters, and they decided to spread the love, so to speak. That there was so much hinting of Crash as an underdog with a shot at the prize is telling. Hollywood loves underdog stories.
I didn't see Brokeback Mountain but think of it not as a film about "gay cowboys" -- at least, not gay cowboys whooping it up gaily on their mountain -- but rather as two friends finding out the truth about themselves and trying to come to terms with it. The setting is unusual in time and place, but my sense of the movie is that it's analagous to experiences gay people have in the present. The setting gives it an additional spin, turning westerns, coming of age stories, and "I think I'm gay" stories on their heads. Given Ang Lee's previous work, that the movie turned out as good as it did makes him deserving of his award.
Also, romance pictures can get really dull; maybe that cost it the Best Picture nod, too.
Sixee
03-07-2006, 10:35 AM
Maybe they should have had the Cowboys flying through the air, A la Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon...
Or Explosions....
Thormir
03-07-2006, 10:50 AM
You might have a point. I wager a gay themed western wu xia vehicle starring Vin Diesel and Arnold Schwarzenegger would play great in middle America.
Anterak
03-07-2006, 10:54 AM
Maybe they should have had the Cowboys flying through the air, A la Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon...
Or Explosions....Shangai Noon you mean? :D
Bylimet Spiritwalker
03-07-2006, 04:41 PM
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon...
Once of the most beautiful movies I have seen, from a cinematography point of view. ("Hero" is a close second) Whenever we are sitting around talking about movies and how the surrounding scenery can put you in the mindset of the people involved, I pull this one out (or "Hero"), and usually win the debate.
Ang Lee is a fantastic director who can pull great performances out of his actors and put that together with great collaborations of his editing crew, and sound effects crews, and musical scoring, and cinematographers, etc. He was deserving before this of an Oscar, and I have no complaint of his getting it.
Being in my 50's, however, I think of Cowboys and I see Richard Boone as Paladin, or any number of John Wayne characters, or Hugh O'Brien as Wyatt Earp, Steve McQueen as the Bounty Hunter, Nick Adams as The Rebel, Charles Bronson, James Drury as The Virginian, etc, etc, etc. These were not people that I would have thought of in the same light as this movie protrayed men out on the range. Randolph Scott, Stewart Granger, Rock Hudson, and some others have already quashed my old mindset of the western hero; I really don't have any desire to see this movie and have it further disrupted.
But, I am just an old fart set in his ways.;)
Osgiliath666
03-07-2006, 06:22 PM
Oh my GOSH. Cowboys could be like, what, totally gay? Oh my gosh. Nuh uh. Too much to comprehend. Like, whatever.
There is no such thing as a gay cowboy. Homo's can ride horses. Does that make them a cowboy? Nope. A homo can pretend he is in the villege people. A cowboy? Nope. By god he can even ride rodeo, rope cattle, and work on a ranch. Is he a real cowboy? Nope sorry. No such thing as a gay cowboy.
Lleauric
03-07-2006, 08:12 PM
You are a silly person
Haloface
03-08-2006, 03:50 AM
F3ar the Ph0be!
Thormir
03-08-2006, 09:16 AM
Once of the most beautiful movies I have seen, from a cinematography point of view. ("Hero" is a close second)...
Seen House of Flying Daggers yet? Plotting gets damn convoluted, but it's a likewise beautifully filmed movie.
Sixee
03-08-2006, 09:21 AM
House of Flying Daggers was very pretty to look at, but a VERY involved storyline. I wanted to see "Hero" when I saw the trailor for it, but missed my chance when it was in theatres.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
03-08-2006, 12:53 PM
House of Flying Daggers was another scenic delight, but I agree it got a bit involved plot-wise.
I think it was the plot that kept me from buying it, while I do have copies of Hero and Crouching Tiger.
I have to say some of the best movies from a cinematography viewpoint come out of China, although some of the older movies like Donovan's Reef and The Quiet Man (both John Wayne flicks) made great use of locales, and LOTR also showcased the beauty of New Zealand.
I'm just pissed that Sin City wasn't nominated for anything. Mickey Rourke was great as Marv, and the adaption of the graphic novels was amazing.
Rover
03-08-2006, 04:55 PM
LOTR also showcased the beauty of New Zealand.
New Zealand? I thought they were in Middle Earth.
Thormir
03-08-2006, 05:32 PM
I'm just pissed that Sin City wasn't nominated for anything. Mickey Rourke was great as Marv, and the adaption of the graphic novels was amazing.
It couldn't be, per Academy rules. Rodriguez named Frank Miller as co-director, which is an Academy no-no.
Sixee
03-09-2006, 08:07 AM
And Quintin Tarentino was "Special guest director". I'm sure there is a rule against that too.
Sin City was great because Jessica Alba was in it, scantily clad. :p~
Seriously, that was a cool movie.
Cloudwalker21
03-09-2006, 09:57 AM
I preferred Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon to Hero. Hero's multiple interpretations (or guesses, not really sure what to call it) kind of got annoying. There was not really much happening in the movie, just talking about what already happened. Which is fine since I think it was done very well as Bylimet attested to, but I preferred the former to it. However, the combat scenes in Hero were as good or better than Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon's, especially the crazy amounts of arrows vs. Jet Li and the other two people.
As to the original topic, I agree with Fandros about the love that won't shut up. More and more these days it seems like we're having diversity rammed down our throats, and more and more its being used as a justification for stuff that the 'majority' wouldn't get away with. Recently in my township a guy got arrested for assaulting somebody in a Wawa I think it was (details are a bit fuzzy), and he said that they were just arresting him because he was black.
Back to diversity getting crammed down our throats, it seems like the 'normal' (I hesitate to use this in this case, but) people, i.e. the ones who were the 'majority' prior to the blitz for diversity + equality, are being forgotten to the point of we're taking the places of the minority as the voices that are not heard, that are shunned, whatever. I know thats a hyperbole, but its an odd phenomenon. One of the reasons the minorities started speaking out is because they wanted to be heard, now it seems like the 'majorities' are being silenced.
Though this seems like an extreme example, at my school two years ago for the holiday concert Holly Jolly Christmas was changed, for the sake of diversity awareness, to "have a Holly Jolly Holiday". We shouldn't be ashamed of what the majority is to the point of trying to cut them out of everything, its not going for the 'embracing everybody' philosphy that I think the minorities had in mind.
Sixee
03-09-2006, 11:00 AM
When the Majority was silenced in South Africa, it was called Apartheid.
When the Majority in America is Silenced it's called Diversity.
Thormir
03-09-2006, 11:11 AM
The comparison is laughable. Apartheid blacks were legally 2nd class citizens (at best) with no political or social power to speak of. There simply is no analogy to whatever "majority" (typically the ever-victimized white Christians) one addresses in the US. One can cherry pick examples of accomodation to whine about, but there are always other venues for such displays. To compare this to the oppression of apartheid is an ignorant joke.
Sixee
03-09-2006, 11:24 AM
And what makes you think that's not happening to the Majority in America today?
When you use race as a deciding factor in any way, whether to benefit the Minority, or to hurt the Majority, it's racism.
Its a 2 way street, racism.
And reversing it to make the Majority suffer the misfortunes that the Minority has in the past, only fosters resentment.
Everyone should have the same opportunity, not the same success. That's why Communism failed.
Thormir
03-09-2006, 11:33 AM
But you weren't talking about racism, you were talking about oppression. By and large, white Christians benefit from the current nature of our society moreso than other classes (and white Christian males in particular). When white Christians are forced out of the suburbs, are stripped of political power, can only flip burgers or bag groceries for a living (or mine for minimum wage) then talk to me about it's "happening to the Majority in America today."
Sixee
03-09-2006, 11:45 AM
I guess we just have to elect the right president to have that happen. Certainly every White Christian Male that ever existed lives the life of luxury. They all ride around in fly cars, and have the fine honeys back at thier suburbian homes, just because of thier skin tone and the choice of thier religion.
It has nothing to do with paying attention in school, or learning a skill that is valuable.
Believe it or not, many people actually have to work to be successful. I've yet to hear of anyone being successful, outside of Jesse Jackson or Louis Farrakahn, for pointing thier finger at "The Man" and claiming racism.
People who are successful, are that way, generally because they work hard.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
03-09-2006, 01:27 PM
Nah Nah Nah Nah
Nah Nah Nah Nah
Hey hey Hey, Naivete!
Sixee
03-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Ok, let's look at things from your point of view...
Let's say I'm a young black guy, in the intercity. I went to a public school, and I didn't pay too much attention, because you know, a thug's gotta be like that.
It's way more impotant to front and style wiff mah $200 Air Jordans, $300 Phat Pharm Jeans, $600 Gold Necklace, and $400 Alan Iverson NBA Jersey so all mah homies will be illin wiff green faces.
Since I ain't too smaat, all I can do to afford dis is rob people, or deal smoke; or deal blow; or deal crack.
So when I'm put in jail, I should blame whitey, cause my school was run down, and the Government didn't put enuff green into it.
We all know that spendin green on a prollem solves it, do ya feel me homie?
Lleauric
03-09-2006, 03:26 PM
Sixee,
What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Ailwon
03-09-2006, 03:58 PM
I guess ignorance IS bling. :)
Rover
03-09-2006, 04:11 PM
I guess we just have to elect the right president to have that happen. Certainly every White Christian Male that ever existed lives the life of luxury. They all ride around in fly cars, and have the fine honeys back at thier suburbian homes, just because of thier skin tone and the choice of thier religion.
It has nothing to do with paying attention in school, or learning a skill that is valuable.
Believe it or not, many people actually have to work to be successful. I've yet to hear of anyone being successful, outside of Jesse Jackson or Louis Farrakahn, for pointing thier finger at "The Man" and claiming racism.
People who are successful, are that way, generally because they work hard.
Because we all know that the minute a white christian male walks into a store, security focuses on them as being the most probable shop lifter.
We all know that being white has many barriers....you tard.
Ok, let's look at things from your point of view...
Let's say I'm a young black guy, in the intercity. I went to a public school, and I didn't pay too much attention, because you know, a thug's gotta be like that.
It's way more impotant to front and style wiff mah $200 Air Jordans, $300 Phat Pharm Jeans, $600 Gold Necklace, and $400 Alan Iverson NBA Jersey so all mah homies will be illin wiff green faces.
Since I ain't too smaat, all I can do to afford dis is rob people, or deal smoke; or deal blow; or deal crack.
So when I'm put in jail, I should blame whitey, cause my school was run down, and the Government didn't put enuff green into it.
We all know that spendin green on a prollem solves it, do ya feel me homie?
I guess you really don't have much experience in the way of real life things.
Do you think that a learning environment has no effect on students? That learningin a run down school with little or no resources is the same as learning in a school with clean well lit classrooms, all of the necessary books etc...
Do you think that schools cost nothing to run?
Do you honestly think that the black kid from the inner city has all of the same opportunities as the white kid from (place suburb here)?
Do you think that racism ended with Rosa Parks refusing to move on the bus? Or with Martin Luther Kings I have a Dream speech?
You poor ignorant fool.
Jensae1
03-09-2006, 05:19 PM
Sixee,
What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Go Billy!
Bylimet Spiritwalker
03-09-2006, 05:53 PM
/sigh
Half of my family members are black, or "half-black", via marriages and/or relationships. This has afforded me the opportunity to see first hand a small bit of one way folks interact differently. I tend to shop at one of the local department stores (national chain) and folks will say hi or good afternoon, and then leave me alone unless I signal I have a question. However, if I walk in there with Sonny, it is a safe bet within 60 seconds there will be a sales person there asking if we need anything, and then hovering about us until we are done shopping there. And then, when I go back by myself the next time it is back to giving me space to shop.
Now we are both disabled Viet Nam vets, and earn in excess of $50k a year including job and disability money; actually he made almost 1 1/2 times what I do as a mail carrier in his job with the Airlines (he was smart and got his retirement before all the shit hit the fan). But for some strange reason, we receive different reactions.
Sadly, if Sixee had been along each time I went in there, he probably would never have noticed anything out of the ordinary.
And the comparison to Apartheid really was asinine Sixee. You need to spend more time learning about what you speak of, or not speak about it.
Osgiliath666
03-09-2006, 06:16 PM
Ok, let's look at things from your point of view...
Let's say I'm a young black guy, in the intercity. I went to a public school, and I didn't pay too much attention, because you know, a thug's gotta be like that.
It's way more impotant to front and style wiff mah $200 Air Jordans, $300 Phat Pharm Jeans, $600 Gold Necklace, and $400 Alan Iverson NBA Jersey so all mah homies will be illin wiff green faces.
Since I ain't too smaat, all I can do to afford dis is rob people, or deal smoke; or deal blow; or deal crack.
So when I'm put in jail, I should blame whitey, cause my school was run down, and the Government didn't put enuff green into it.
We all know that spendin green on a prollem solves it, do ya feel me homie?
Now that's funny and well I can't disagree...
Sixee
03-09-2006, 06:45 PM
LOL, you fools, I was married to a Black woman for 13 years, In Georgia. We only had 1 instance of any racism in that time, from a pair of drunk rednecks on St Patricks day.
My wife is an educated black woman who went to School in VA. She had everything going against her...Yet she is a professional, because she spent time learning, rather than spreading her legs for "Leroy" back in High school.
We have gone shopping many times, and never been hovered over by store clerks. I was in Retail for many years, and guess what? The only time I ever had anything shoplifted in my stores I was working in, or had them broken into was by young Black males. Am I racist for noticing?
mirdorr
03-09-2006, 07:13 PM
Maybe you're racist for not tracking shinkage well enough. 'Cause I'd bet $100 that you had SOMETHING stolen by a white person.
Sixee
03-09-2006, 07:24 PM
Afraid not....The only things we had stolen or broken in by were young black males. The items missing tallied exactly the Shrinkage we had in the store.
You know what the guy said that stole the stuff from my store when he came back in and tried to steal more stuff from us? He said it wasn't him "We all look alike" he told the police.
Even though I had him on videotape stealing the items, right in front of the camera.
Rover
03-09-2006, 10:03 PM
Funny thing.
I worked as a store detective for Sears, Bambergers/Macy's in Wayne NJ and for B'Altmans on 34th street in Manhatten for a few years back in the 80's. I arrested many different races for stealing in stores. Everything from construction pencils to VCR's and Ralph Lauren coats.
The odd thing is, I arrested white people, black people, people from India, chinese people, hispanic people from various countries including spain, some vietnamese and at least one cambodian amongst other races, creeds. The people I arrested went from unemployed to doctors, attorneys, white mothers, grandmothers, grandfathers and even the executive vice president of a fortune 100 company.
If you think all that was ever shoplifted in "your" stores was done by young black males there is something quite amiss, not only with you but with your stores security department.
The only things we had stolen or broken in by were young black males. The items missing tallied exactly the Shrinkage we had in the store.
The above bolded statement more or less proves that you are either clueless or completely full of shit. The non bolded part just simply proves your ignorance.
Sixee
03-09-2006, 10:20 PM
Lol, I was the Manager. I didn't look for young, black males to steal things, the only times we had any shoplifting going on in the store were 2 incidents I listed. Nothing was missing, at any other times, and the only shrinkage items were when the store was broken into by young black men, caught on video (I must have gone in and colored them in black on the tape) and the guy that stood right in front of the camera and slipped a cd player on display into his pocket (I musta colored him in too). When my LP guy came in and did an audit, the price of the shrinkage came to the exact total of the 6 phones and the 1 cd player.
Incidentally, where I managed a store at had a lot of international teavelers, and none of them shoplifted while I was manager of that store. We watched everyone equally, with no special attention to anyone because of tier race. All I can report is what I know happened in the 3 years I was with that company.
Now How full of it am I now?
Rover
03-09-2006, 10:24 PM
Now How full of it am I now?
Still completely full of it.
Also, I'm guessing that from your spelling abilities that ... yews mussa bean edumacated wiff dem nigras yews wuz speekim abut befowe.
Sixee
03-09-2006, 10:27 PM
LOL, because I won't bow to your way of thinking? My expierences are mine, who are any of you to tell my what I have observed is wrong?
That's like telling someone to read a story, and ask them what they got out of it.
10 people can read the same story and get 10 different things from it.
Are they all 10 wrong because they don't conform to what you think is right?
How very Liberal and embracing of other views you all are.
Rover
03-09-2006, 10:34 PM
LOL, because I won't bow to your way of thinking? My expierences are mine, who are any of you to tell my what I have observed is wrong?
That's like telling someone to read a story, and ask them what they got out of it.
10 people can read the same story and get 10 different things from it.
Are they all 10 wrong because they don't conform to what you think is right?
How very Liberal and embracing of other views you all are.
I don't think anyone is looking for you to bow to any way of thinking. Honestly, if you want to think in the completely ignorant way that you do, I'm all for it!
Lauhing is good for the soul. Unfortunately you make baby jesus cry.
10 people can read the same story and get 10 different things from it.
I have to agree with you on this point...The Bible and Khoran are fine examples of this. Some read these books and see messages of peace and understanding....others see the messages as justification for killing.
Taleren Bloodsong
03-09-2006, 10:39 PM
Suuuuuuuuuuure in 3 years of retail you only had 2 incidents or attempted incidents of theft.
What you are describing, by the items being stolen, and that you had an LP manager, and other things you described sounds like a Best Buy. No way did you only have 2 incidents of shrink/theft in 3 years. No fucking way. I've worked in 2 Best Buys for probably a total of 3 years myself, so yes I have something to base the loss they have. EVERY STORE COMPANY WIDE has more shrink per month than you are attempting to describe for 3 years. The store I worked at for a quarter had the second lowest shrink company wide and we lost just under $8,000 in merchandise. The lowest store had under $5,000 for the quarter, and it was widely lauded as amazing.
Taleren Bloodsong
03-09-2006, 10:42 PM
The simple fact about how Best Buy counts shrink also would prove what you say wrong. If you are shorted something on a truck. You count it into inventory and then find out later you were short the item, it also counts against your shrink. So to say you lost 6 phones and 1 cd player to shrink in 3 years is just silly. If you worked at a place like even a Radio Shack (which by nature should have less shrink than a Best Buy, being a smaller store), you are still going to have mistakes over 3 years time that would lead to more shrink than 6 phones and 1 cd player. You would have some cables come up missing(even if a manufacturer only packs 5 in a box that normally has 6 in it, that's shrink too), whether they are stolen or not, some toys that get broken and can't be sold (yes that's considered shrink too).
Sixee
03-09-2006, 10:48 PM
It wasn't Best Buy, there are other retailers of Electronics out there in the world, and they all don't run like best Buy, although I did work there too for a while.
Try RadioShack. No they don't count that against the store's shrink. Stuff that wasn't packed wasn't counted against a store's shrink. It had a seperate category, the the LP guy wasn't interested in.
And When you cuss, you reveal the weakness of your arguement. All you have left is shock.
Taleren Bloodsong
03-09-2006, 10:51 PM
Reading comprehension is your friend, did you read both posts before you got your panties in a bunch and said what what what what????!!!
I included a Radio Shack example in my second post, one of my best friends ran I Radio Shack, I know how they operated too.
Sixee
03-09-2006, 10:56 PM
well, I guess I just took better stock of my inventory that was shipped than your friend. We had items that were not shipped, but I made sure they were marked as not shipped.
Sorry if you find my story hard to believe. It's my experience, and it's not wrong.
Taleren Bloodsong
03-09-2006, 11:10 PM
now, I'm not saying this applies to you. You stated that some sort of profiling never occured in your store, and you may be right, at least from your end. Radio Shack unfortunately though, does have history of racial profiling...
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/race/radio_shack.html
You can find these types of things for any retailer. Maybe it didn't happen in your store, but the truth is, it DOES happen.
I agree with you on some of your points, as a white male, I do feel that it would be easier for me to find a job with the same qualifications if I had a differant color of skin. I have been passed over for promotions before by individuals that were less qualified than me of a differant race, though it's hard for me to prove it. Quotas are illegal in every state as far as hiring practices, but I would be naive to feel that there isn't some sort of unwritten policies at some places.
There ARE some double standards. It's perfectly ok to have a Black Cultural center on a college campus (I know for a fact there was one at Purdue), as well as Black Clubs for students(again, I've seen those both colleges I have degrees from). It wouldn't be allowed to have a White cultural center or a white club because it would be seen at the least as insensitive and at most racist. Until we do away with double standards, racism will never be wiped away. Racism IS a two way street, it's not only something practiced by whites. Many blacks DO look at whites in ways that would be racist if white's did the same thing. That said, to say blacks aren't treated differant growing up by white folk is naive. I never had to look over my shoulder in a store because I was white, it DOES happen to blacks.
Back to my prior 3 posts, I can't find actual shrink figures from Radio Shack, so we'll have to agree to disagree. I went through their balance sheet from last year and I can't find a place where they write off their loss for theft company wide other than an other category in losses that showed some 77 million.
Anterak
03-10-2006, 04:42 AM
My wife is an educated black woman who went to School in VA. She had everything going against her...(emphasis added)
He saw the light!
I guess you can imagine that it's harder to be successful when you have "everything going against you". I hope.
Sixee
03-12-2006, 08:34 PM
The rest of my Statement was lost on you there, apparently.
She made the decision to make something of herself, and not become caught up in the cycle of so many others of her race.
There were plenty of people that went to the same school she did, that had the same opportunities she did, yet DECIDED to become something she did not.
Greystone Thorngage
03-13-2006, 12:08 AM
back to the original topic......that Ann is a retard. I really hate people who take any form of entertainment and turn it into a Liberal or Conservative slam. THough I am not suprised that Osg posted this, this is the guy that wont watch Boondocks cause its too liberal....
Please dont think i hate it cause its anti-liberal, i think Michael Moore is a fucking idiot too.
Greystone Thorngage
03-13-2006, 12:09 AM
Odd Taleran i was store manager at RAdioshack for a while, never saw anything that would lead me to see the same thing. Was in the same county as the story you linked.
fildien
03-13-2006, 06:43 AM
Good ole Radio Shack. My ex was an assistant manager/manager for some 3 years in the same area as Six. Luckily none of the stores experienced being robbed at gun point like some others experienced. I think that particular area of the south is an interesting place :)
But just because my ex ran a Radio Shack I wouldn't even begin to profess I know the ins and outs of inventory control and hell I used to help with inventory. But I do recall catching a few young black kids stealing some cell phones lol....too bad that didnt' do them any good since they weren't even able to be activated. It was all on tape. some people are just stupid.
Sixee
03-13-2006, 08:04 AM
Yeah, this is a odd place to live in.
There's a mixture of all different types down here; Military, foreigners from the ports, rednecks, gang-bangers, homies.
The only other place I can think of that has a wider variety of people would be New York City.
And I have a theory, that a single person can be pretty smart, but a group of people can be pretty stupid.
Sixee
03-15-2006, 12:21 PM
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/michellemalkin/2006/03/15/189894.html
Just, wow....
Thormir
03-15-2006, 12:28 PM
Can't wait to see her on tour with Prussian Blue (http://www.prussianblue.net/).
Sixee
03-15-2006, 12:41 PM
LOL, yeah, that'll bring in a diverse crowd.
Osgiliath666
03-15-2006, 01:03 PM
These poor girls.. Got to looking through their site a bit. HEard about 'em a couple years ago. A Prussian Blue snow man... Actually this is sad but very funny. Never thought i'd see a hitler snowman.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/129/1310/1600/DSCN1704.3.jpg
Sixee
03-15-2006, 01:05 PM
/bogle
insane!
/more bogle
DiscW
03-21-2006, 12:49 PM
I'm jumping in on this post late, but oh well. That lady really hates gays.
Munich" (Jew athletes at Munich had it coming)
What the fuck? Am I the only one that caught that?
If it was so beautifully directed why not make it a traditional movie and leave off the homosexuality factor? Ang Lee has plenty of skill that he could've done a great job regardless.
I'll tell you why, because it's controversial they were hoping it would sell....it did, to a bunch of old out of touch voters that have no clue what we want.
You said a few posts later that you didn't see the movie, and it shows.
He didn't do it without the 'homosexuality factor' because that was the main point of the entire movie. They didn't do it 'because its controversial.' They did it because its a damned good love story. I dunno how someone that has seen the movie could say this was meant to make a lot of money. It's an incredibly slow, sad, harsh, and SLOW movie thats obviously not meant for mass consumption.
It's definetly better than the 3 of the other movies that were nominated that I've seen (all but Good Night, and Good Luck). On the other hand, I think the 2 best movies of last year were Walk the Line and Sin City and the Oscars are 100% full of shit. Shakespeare in Love winning over Saving Private Ryan sealed that deal for me.
As for teh gay being shoved down our throat. I partially agree. It is, but its not gay people forcing the gay on everyone else. It's a fad. It's our own fault it's happening, since people like watching it and spending money on it. It gets ratings, so they make more shows with it. It makes money, so corps obviously do more of it. It's the "in" thing right now. Of course, the whole thing hasn't done much for actual gay rights, but hey.
Give it a few years for people to get bored of it and we'll go back to treating them like lepers like we're supposed to.
Sixee
03-21-2006, 12:54 PM
Give it a few years for people to get bored of it and we'll go back to treating them like lepers like we're supposed to.
HOMOPHOBE!!!!!!
LOL, seriously, I don't care what people do in thier personal lives. If you can look at another man's hairy butt and find love, more power to you.
Personally, I prefer women, but I won't try to force that onto anyone that feels differently. I expect the same in return.
DiscW
03-22-2006, 11:03 PM
That's fair, and they aren't so we're set.
Rover
03-22-2006, 11:34 PM
Personally, I prefer women,
Ya know, you seem to be sure and post something to that effect in almost every thread you post on. Do you have yourself convinced yet?
Rover
03-22-2006, 11:46 PM
He didn't do it without the 'homosexuality factor' because that was the main point of the entire movie. They didn't do it 'because its controversial.' They did it because its a damned good love story. I dunno how someone that has seen the movie could say this was meant to make a lot of money. It's an incredibly slow, sad, harsh, and SLOW movie thats obviously not meant for mass consumption.
Yeah but lets admit it. The movie would have truly rocked if it was 2 cowgirls instead.
Sixee
03-23-2006, 07:45 AM
Yeah but lets admit it. The movie would have truly rocked if it was 2 cowgirls instead.
2 Hot Cowgirls....
Ya know, you seem to be sure and post something to that effect in almost every thread you post on. Do you have yourself convinced yet?
Yes Rover, I have no secret desire for you in my heart. I'm sure this crushes your dreams and hope, but buck up Cowboy, I'm sure there's someone in Penisylvania that would trip the light fantastic with you.
Since you have that in your avatar, and it shows on every post you put up, I guess we all know which team you play for.
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