http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html

Way to go!

I read this headline this morning before heading to work (just got here), so I haven't had time to read the article yet. This looks great from what I read. Good job.

Well done. Just goes to show that not all vigilance is futile.

Awesome job, much respect goes out to those who just saved countless lives.


Fandros

Indeed!

My coworker, whos son was in Jordan all summer learning Arabic through the state department, just landed in London either late last night or this morning for a connecting flight to the US. I wonder how much hes being harrassed at the moment.

I'm leaving from Gatwick next week to go to Tenerife. Have a feeling they're gonna give me a cavity search, rubber glove 'n all. I always look dodgy, 'cause, though I don't in any way, the mere sight of those airport security systems make me feel as though I have half a kilo of coke stuck up my arse.

As you approach it's sort of like "holy christ, hide my gun love, hide it now."
"You don't have a gun, dave."
'You sure? I definately feel as though I have a gun. Ok, well don't say anything about a bomb."
"What bomb, dave? Stop the paranoia."
"THE BOMB! THE BOMB, WOMAN!"

My better half is a bit more calm in those kind of situations.

Anywho, good foil. Should give Blair something to think about on his fifth holiday to Barbados this year.
When the fook is he going to hand power over to Brown? Soon, one hopes.

Edit:

I always love these things..

'The U.S. raised the terror threat level to "severe" for all flights leaving Britain for the United States. Britain raised its alert level to "critical."'

- I always imagine a man named Burt in a rocking chair, getting up and going over to a sign, changing it from severe to critical, and then going back to his chair and falling asleep.

The U.S. raised the terror threat level to "severe" for all flights leaving Britain for the United States. Britain raised its alert level to "critical."Halo beat me to it. Everything sounded good, until you get to this part. Does anyone not giggle a bit? I could make so many inappropriate jokes about this. Further down it points out that 'severe' is also noted by red, which is good. Red is dangerous, gotcha... :eek:

But in seriousness, good job all around.

Great job...but there is something off here...I'll pin it down.

Good catch

..anyone have a link to a decent article explaining the plot, who was caught, and who caught them. The articles I have found so far have been lacking details.

I can understand why they are being short on detail.

These men they arrested have no real value, besides, of course the preventing of the attack. Think about what I said for a second.

In 1944-45 when Stalins armies were chasing the Weirmacht back to Germany, the officers would take enlisted men and march them 20 yards ahead of the tank columns. Now this goes against military doctrine that says infantry go in back of armor. But what Stalin had in abundance was not tanks, but men, so roles were switched, and the roads that the Germans had laid land mines on would not harm the precious T-34s critical to Stalins Western March.

So is it the case here. A operation of this size requires massive coordination. From planning and material gathering, to recruitment, training, housing and funding, it staggers the mind at the level of complexity this poses. People willing to kill themselves for Jihad, Al-Queda has plenty of. Talented operations officers, capable of this level of planning in a western advanced country is a rare thing.

Officials are most definitly keeping quiet about specifics as they pursue leads to bring them up the ladder to targets of value.

ABC News reports an urgent search is on for five suspects in the plot to bring down U.S.-bound airliners from Britain with gel concealed in sports drinks; 3 alleged ringleaders ID’d. CNN working to confirm.

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How on earth you managed to squeeze the Red Army's march on Berlin in to this thread is beyond me, but you did. Very impressive :D

This is turning out to be a pretty well run operation by the British. They infiltrated these guys with an undercover operative...good old fashioned feet on the ground police work.

Kudo's to those who stopped this.

And shame on those who use it for gain (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060810/pl_afp/britainattacksairline_060810185330).

Knew Rover could get his licks in, it's as serious compulsion as I have with anything Anti Ted Kennedy.

Fandros

I like it when Bush say's "Fashhhistsss"

When I heard of the plot I ran to the computer to see if Halo had been online posting since the arrests.....

I think Bush should start calling them Fashhistss Bastards...... that has some pinache'

Why should Bush be ashamed of using this incident for political gain? You have a prime example of a success in the war against terrorism. Something that says, "Hey, somebody did some good. It can be done, we just have to keep our nose to the grindstone."

Why not use it as a positive reflection of a job well done? It was a job well done, after all.

So, I suppose it's time to interrigate some prisoners, eh?

*whips out the dirty shoes and butt lube*

Knew Rover could get his licks in, it's as serious compulsion as I have with anything Anti Ted Kennedy.

Fandros

LOL...I didn't write the article, I just pointed it out. I find it quite ironic that there would be politics being played with this by the very people who accuse their opponents of playing politics with things like this.

Once again they are playing to fear and desperately using this as a justification for the war in Iraq...I just don't see the correlation between the two.

I'm fairly sure that there are comments and neg reps given without actually reading the article...and remember this....it was British agents and British intelligence services that worked this....it involved people in Britain and Pakistan...not anywhere or anyone was involved in Iraq.

If pointing out facts is tantamount to pissing in your cheerios then you need to stop eating cereal.


"I'd rather be talking about this than all of the other things that Congress hasn't done well," one Republican congressional aide told AFP on condition of anonymity because of possible reprisals.
"Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big," said another White House official, who also spoke on condition of not being named, adding that some Democratic candidates won't "look as appealing" under the circumstances.

I have a theory about this....
When it seemed nothing was going on, all we heard about on the news was how inadequate the protections in place were.
Then when something actually happens and the system works, the news agencies run around repeating the same tidbits of info over and over again, ad nauseum.
I think we have a 24 hour news culture without 24 hours worth of news....

You're not pissing in my cheerios Rover. You're just a victim of polarizing politics.

Straight ticket kinda guy, the right can do no right and the left no wrong.

That's all.

See you linked this after going to look for something to spin against Bush.

Hell don't throw up the bullshit flag and say US had nothing to do with it. We're in the war together and when something is stopped by our lads over here?

You piss on that as well.

Fandros

You're not pissing in my cheerios Rover. You're just a victim of polarizing politics.

Straight ticket kinda guy, the right can do no right and the left no wrong.

That's all.

See you linked this after going to look for something to spin against Bush.

Hell don't throw up the bullshit flag and say US had nothing to do with it. We're in the war together and when something is stopped by our lads over here?

You piss on that as well.

Fandros

No that just don't float! I'm saying that this shouldn't be used for political gain as it is going to be by this administration. They are tying it into the situation in Iraq and it has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.

By the admission of the Whitehouse and congress they were not aware of this investigation until last wednesday.

I also didn't go fishing for this story, it was featured right on the front page of Yahoo (I use that site for my main search engine)

Believe me I'm not anti republican nor am I pro dem I'm most definately the definition of a centrist and I have a strong belief in common sense government over the sham that is in power today.

I most definately didn't piss on anyone but those who think that it was this administration that deserves the credit for an operation that seems to have been flawlessly executed by the British intelligence services....give credit where it is due and deny it to those who don't deserve it....thats all...just a bit of common sense prevailing for once, I hope.

And George Bush looks like a Chimp!!!!!

No that just don't float! I'm saying that this shouldn't be used for political gain as it is going to be by this administration. They are tying it into the situation in Iraq and it has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq..

This statement is an utter joke and a sham of an attempt to villify the administration.

What politician in global history hasn't tried to spin something for their own good?

Jesus christ banana's such an utterly absurd statement. And one based on an obvious spin publishment.

Hmmm wait I can think of one politician...Mahatma ghandi (spelling) perhaps?

Certainly not the joke we had in before Bush jr...both of them.

Fandros

I find it quite ironic that there would be politics being played with this by the very people who accuse their opponents of playing politics with things like this.
Everything is politics. Anyone who cries, "Our opponents are playing politics with <X>" knows perfectly well that, in other circumstances, they'd be doing the same thing. Hell, just calling a success a success often brings the "you're playing politics" aspersion. But if a politician or a faction can plant their flag in an issue or event and crow about it, they will. That is politics, and there's no getting rid of it.

The entire "playing politics" finger-pointing and soundbites is, itself, a political weapon.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/security_pakistan_arrests_dc

Looks like Pakistan had a hand in helping out too.

No that just don't float! I'm saying that this shouldn't be used for political gain as it is going to be by this administration. They are tying it into the situation in Iraq and it has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.

By the admission of the Whitehouse and congress they were not aware of this investigation until last wednesday.

I also didn't go fishing for this story, it was featured right on the front page of Yahoo (I use that site for my main search engine)

Believe me I'm not anti republican nor am I pro dem I'm most definately the definition of a centrist and I have a strong belief in common sense government over the sham that is in power today.

I most definately didn't piss on anyone but those who think that it was this administration that deserves the credit for an operation that seems to have been flawlessly executed by the British intelligence services....give credit where it is due and deny it to those who don't deserve it....thats all...just a bit of common sense prevailing for once, I hope.


Hope that helps with you understanding what I am pointing out.

Unless these planned attacks targetting Britain and the USA are in retaliation to the war in Iraq (which I have yet to see proven or mentioned yet, maybe I'm oblivious to something out there I haven't seen yet).

One could tie just about anything into anything if they had the means and the desire to do so. Butterfly wings in Africa, hurricane in Florida.

Butterfly wings in Africa, hurricane in Florida.
More specifically, gay butterfly wings.

Rover hit the nail on the head imo.

This administration tries relentlessly to tie the war in Iraq to the "war" on Terror. The two are completely unrelated at this point. Iraq COULD have been a major event in changing the root causes of terrorism in the long term, but that opportunity has been squandered and wasted by the Rumsfeld minimalist doctrine that has lead to this unmitigated disaster.
Had Colin Powel been Sec of Defense rather than Sec of State, I have no doubt that Iraq would have had alot more of a chance to be a success than with the "Oh Gee, Oh My, Good Grief, My Golly" head up his ass dipshit ego maniac who micro managed it into the ground. Fuck Rumsfeld, blood is on his hands due to his supreme incompetence.
See, by going in small and unable to provide overwhelming security and an iron grip on the country, not only did we allow foriegn powers to inflitrate and set up shop, we allowed for a militia culture to emerge. Everyone in Iraq has a Militia. 14 members of the Iraqi parliment have their own Militias, and nobody is going to give them up. They are sharping their swords and biding the time.

So, due to incompetence, the war in Iraq has no relation to the war on terror. Ironic isnt it. Yet the Bush Administration keeps trying to draw them together, even The Lieberman Defeat. (http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/15250004.htm) is grist for the lie machine (What was that about "playing politics"?) This administration doesnt need anyone to vilify them Fanny, they do a good enough job of it on their own.

Iraq has more to do with the war on terror now than it did when we originally went in.

So, due to incompetence, the war in Iraq has no relation to the war on terror

When we wen't into Iraq that was very true, that is not the case anymore as the above posted has said.

Bullshit.

Let me ask you a question.

In 1987 when a Algerian man left his home to Jihad in Afganistan, we called him a freedom fighter and put a TOW missle launcher in his hands.
In 2006 when that same man goes to Iraq to fight we call him a terrorist.

Iraq has less to do with the war on terrorism because the dream and hope of turning Iraq into a model democracy is gone. Iraq is smoldering cauldron of uncertanity looking now to be divided by up the regional jackals.
Whats that you say? We are fighting there so we dont fight them here?
Clue time. All of the suspects arrested in the bomb plot were British citizens. While our actions in Iraq may radicalize people who were not radical, we are by no means making any progress in combating the root causes of terror.

Iraq has more to do with the war on terror now than it did when we originally went in.
In the same way that your lungs have a lot more to do with cancer since you started smoking.

Ok, we've heard your belly aching about the current situation, What's your solution?
Because if you don't have one, you really shouldn't complain. It's complaining for complaining's sake.
Unless you have a viable solution, you are just mirroring the Democrat's battle cry: "Hey, at least we aren't the Rebublicans!"
That whole we don't have a solution, but we are gonna complain about what is actually being done routine doesn't sit well with the American Public.
So enlighten us to what you would do if you were "Prezdent".

Fair enough

http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/STRATEGIC_REDEPLOYMENT_2.0.PDF

1) Undertake Military Redeployment -- Reduce the current size of the US force in Iraq by 9,000 troops per month, while doubling the size of the current force in Afghanistan as part of a unified NATO force under the command of an American general. The redeployment also calls for stationing an Army battalion in Kuwait, and a US battle carrier group in the Persian gulf to conduct tactical strikes in the region as needed. By the end of 2007, US troop presence in Iraq will be effectively zero.
2) Conduct Strong Diplomacy -- The plan calls for a new focus on conflict resolution in Iraq, rather than nation building.
3) Launch a Gulf Stability Initiative -- This is a multilateral, regional framework that will deal with not only the aftermath of the US redeployment from Iraq, but also emerging threats such as the Iranian nuclear capabilities.
4) Put Iraq's Reconstruction on the Right Track -- "The Bush administration should develop a more focused approach for correcting the mistakes it made to date in its reconstruction efforts in Iraq."
5) Counter Extremist Ideology in the Global Battle of Ideas -- The US must develop new strategies to discredit the, "falsehoods promoted by its extremist adversaries." Also, the US should declare it doesn't seek permanent bases in Iraq.

I was going to say before you had that link up that you should of been a General to pop that out in under 15 minutes. I know your good but damn!

Sounds like a good plan.
Vote L2 for Prezdent!

On:
5) Counter Extremist Ideology in the Global Battle of Ideas -- The US must develop new strategies to discredit the, "falsehoods promoted by its extremist adversaries." Also, the US should declare it doesn't seek permanent bases in Iraq.

I think we should allow people to act as Ambassadors for the United States in the Middle East. Either recruit people that have live here that are of Middle Eastern descent, or have them come live in the United States for a period of 2 years. Then they go back to the countries from which they came, and "spread the good word" about the United States. This would counter the falsehoods promoted by our extremist adversaries.

Fair enough

http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/STRATEGIC_REDEPLOYMENT_2.0.PDF

1) Undertake Military Redeployment -- Reduce the current size of the US force in Iraq by 9,000 troops per month, while doubling the size of the current force in Afghanistan as part of a unified NATO force under the command of an American general. The redeployment also calls for stationing an Army battalion in Kuwait, and a US battle carrier group in the Persian gulf to conduct tactical strikes in the region as needed. By the end of 2007, US troop presence in Iraq will be effectively zero.
2) Conduct Strong Diplomacy -- The plan calls for a new focus on conflict resolution in Iraq, rather than nation building.
3) Launch a Gulf Stability Initiative -- This is a multilateral, regional framework that will deal with not only the aftermath of the US redeployment from Iraq, but also emerging threats such as the Iranian nuclear capabilities.
4) Put Iraq's Reconstruction on the Right Track -- "The Bush administration should develop a more focused approach for correcting the mistakes it made to date in its reconstruction efforts in Iraq."
5) Counter Extremist Ideology in the Global Battle of Ideas -- The US must develop new strategies to discredit the, "falsehoods promoted by its extremist adversaries." Also, the US should declare it doesn't seek permanent bases in Iraq.

Or in other words..."What Murtha said"

On the surface alot of your ideas, and Murthas, are nothing more than throwing words at folks that want you dead for not being them.

Sorry, it won't work for the very reasons shown by Hamas and Hezbollah continually attacking Israel after the many concessions given them.

You simply don't get the mentality behind these folks.

We are different, we don't follow Islam so we are to be destroyed. Everything about us, everything we hold dear, everything we have created...wiped out.

Nothing we can give them will change that, short of occupying ( in reality not the piss ass Rummy job) them and removing Islam Iman's with force.

You can't be a diplomat while the other is thinking of ways to destroy your family.

You can't be a diplomat with folks that have shown they won't hold to any accord or treaty they sign.

Sorry, this can't be solved that way. And to be honest it can't be solved the way we're doing it now. Only by removing them by the roots and feeding them to the compost heap can that be done. Trick is making us look like the hero while being so hard.

Fandros

Oh for the record I agree on your first and last points.

We can mobilize our forces to the point we no longer need such bases in the ME ...or Europe for that matter....

Get'em out and continue to reshape our forces to more lightning responses. Make those responses felt, seen , get the job done and then get the hell out.

Fandros

You can't be a diplomat while the other is thinking of ways to destroy your family.

But does that mean you cant be a diplomat with anyone? I agree, we have nothing to say AlQueda types besides "Would you like fries with that Napalm", but we MUST start a dialogue with people we are reluctant to. Syria for example. Why cant Syria be Libya part 2? Bush and Co. are refusing to talk to them. Their policy of isolation led them into an alliance with Iran.
We need to be willing to have open discussions with people from the middle east. All we seem to want to do is preach to them or make demands to them. This is not dialogue, this is not understanding, this is not winning the hearts and minds.

Do we give Israel a bit too free of a hand? Yea, we do. We need to seriously throw ourselves to finding a reasonable and working solution to the problems. It cant be dictating some lame ass "Road Map to Peace"... but serious mulitparty talks that are intense and open ended. Have it co-sponsored by the US and Saudi Arabia. Bring Jordan, Bring Turkey, Bring the Palestinian representative, bring Israel. All the regional players who are non rogue states.

Heres my dream agreement.

Jerusalem becomes and open "world" city.
Relocate the United Nations there.
A major AutoBaun freeway is built between the Gaza Strip and Palestine. Palestine agrees to recognize Israel.
Israel agrees to the sovereignty of Palestine and promises no settlements or encrouchment of territory.
A massive of Investment of Billions of dollars is pledged to build a world class university in Jerusalem. This University will promise free admission to Palestinians and Israelis.
Attract the best minds from around the world to teach there. Promise and create a massive investment in Palestineans schools. Make sure that every child in Palestine has access to a free quality education in their home town, free of the Madrassas.
Create economic opportunity for Palestinians now. Offer massive incentives for corporations to move manufacturing and production centers to a "Green Zone" like Areas in the West Bank, Gaza and Palestine prime.
A multinational force is placed giving a 10 mile buffer zone between Israel and Lebanon. While the force is there, the opportunity exists to rebuild that area. Give the people opportunity free from Hezbollah.

Sounds great LL, but perhaps someday in the enlightened future that may transpire, in say oh 4-5 generations. Most would settle for an agreement more along the lines of:


Stop killing each other.

Yea.. good luck with all that.

Oh bloody hell. Just found out the supposed date the plot was supposed to happen is the exact day I'm flying out from Gatwick.

Me go pee-pee.

They found three arab dudes in this country with 1000 cell phones in there mini-van. And this is on the heels of finding someone else with 600 cell phones. They are the disposable kind.

I don't know what you do with them but even if it is just for communication purposes that is bad enough.

They found three arab dudes in this country with 1000 cell phones in there mini-van. And this is on the heels of finding someone else with 600 cell phones. They are the disposable kind.

I don't know what you do with them but even if it is just for communication purposes that is bad enough.

The ones they were found with are allegedly untraceable and commonly used as detonators, according to the newsprint. One of the arrested claims they were looking to turn them over for a profit and put the money into his brother's college fund.

The ones they were found with are allegedly untraceable and commonly used as detonators, according to the newsprint. One of the arrested claims they were looking to turn them over for a profit and put the money into his brother's college fund.

Yep, they would have made $5000.00 in profit selling them, apparently it is very common in Texas (Where they are from) and they had gone to both Wisconsin and Michigan to buy the phones because they were pretty much sold out in Texas.

They purchased 80 prepaid cellphone cards and paid with cash(apparently buying with cash puts one under suspicion of terrorist activity...kind of scary) at a Walmart, the Walmart then called the police and reported it and the police stoped them in the prking lot and searched them.

Their story makes sense and my gut says these guys were doing exactly what they say they were.

Good on Wal-Mart.
Not as sexy as stopping planes from getting blown up over the Atlantic Ocean, but it may have cost the terrorists a shipment of ready made detonators....

The problem I have with their story is why separate phones from power supplies from batteries from the packaging in the first place if they were for resale? I don't know about you, but I wouldn't buy a phone in separate pieces- I want the whole thing in a sealed package so I know it's new.

Here:

The FBI said Monday it had no information to indicate that the three Texas men arrested with about 1,000 cell phones in their van had any connections to terrorism.

Having 1000 cell phones does not a terrorist make....this was way overboard.

Having 1000 cell phones does not a terrorist make....this was way overboard.

It may not make them terrorists, but I'm sure that terrorists would have gotten hold of the phones, somewhere down the line.
I mean if the phones are the kind the terrorists like to use, doesn't it reason that somehow terrorists would have gotten their hands on them, eventually?

Yes, so we should certainly arrest anyone working for Verizon, Cingular, or any other phone distributor.

It may not make them terrorists, but I'm sure that terrorists would have gotten hold of the phones, somewhere down the line.
I mean if the phones are the kind the terrorists like to use, doesn't it reason that somehow terrorists would have gotten their hands on them, eventually?

Yeah you are right, because we all know that these guys are the only people in the whole world with access to those phones...I tried to buy the same type of phone about 2 weeks ago and when I did I was told to look for some guys in a van because they are the only authorized distributors and retailers....

Yeah Rover, you are right. There is no reason to think these guys were doing anything wrong, whatsoever.
I wonder how they were going to turn a profit on the phones? Sell them to people who normally wouldn't be able to get them, I would suppose, but at a slightly higher rate than what they paid for them at.
I wonder who would buy such phones?

Yeah Rover, you are right. There is no reason to think these guys were doing anything wrong, whatsoever.
I wonder how they were going to turn a profit on the phones? Sell them to people who normally wouldn't be able to get them, I would suppose, but at a slightly higher rate than what they paid for them at.
I wonder who would buy such phones?

Well...they are pretty popular phones and there is quite a business for someone who has the initiative in selling them. The phones were completely sold out and unavailable in Texas so they drove to where they could get them.

Funny thing about a month and a half ago I was able to get my hands on a couple of hundred Toshiba 60 gig Gigabeats and no one else could not even the big name stores so I bought all of them and sold them at a nice profit on the Internet, but hey thats just being savvy and knowing market trends...of course these guys being of middle eastern lineage they couldn't possibly have any knowledge of market trends and we all know that middle eastern peoples of arabic lineage must be too stupid and lazy to ever do anything like take initiative and make money by selling things at a profit.

Were these the guys who had passenger manifests and airline info? I haven't been able to follow the news closely the past few days and so I'm not sure. But, I think I recall hearing something about that....if that is the case then I'm sorry to say I'd be suspicious of their intent too.

Maybe airlines should just ban all carryons and be done with it. It's moving that way rapidly.

Were these the guys who had passenger manifests and airline info? I haven't been able to follow the news closely the past few days and so I'm not sure. But, I think I recall hearing something about that....if that is the case then I'm sorry to say I'd be suspicious of their intent too.

Maybe airlines should just ban all carryons and be done with it. It's moving that way rapidly.

No they had 1000 cell phones that they were going to sell at a $5000.00 dollar profit. They had nothing about airlines, airports or anything like that.

Their story is plausible and makes sense.

No they had 1000 cell phones that they were going to sell at a $5000.00 dollar profit. They had nothing about airlines, airports or anything like that.

Their story is plausible and makes sense.

Vaguely plausible. I still question the rationale for stripping the packaging, separating the components and driving all the way to Michigan to buy the phones when gas is close to $3.00 a gallon and states closer to Texas were *not* sold out.

Is it possible they were only buying phones for resale? Yes.

Is it possible they were aiding a home grown terror plot? Yes.

IMO it bears further investigation.

well it certainly doesnt take 1000 phones to make a detonator, it only takes 2(two).

The FBI admits there was nothing going on other than what these guys said. A terrorist can go buy one phone and make a detonator and buy another and make the call from it...the story these guys gave is plausible the reasoning for arresting them is not plausible and makes no sense.

Oh, I forgot they had a picture that they took of a huge bridge...that was the other reason to hold them under suspicion. Of course we all know that taking photographs is now illegal...this is getting ridiculous and like I said a few months back in a post...this summer will see a sudden upsurge in terror warnings and it will all suddenly dissappear as soon as the election is over.

I have pictures I took of the Golden Gate Bridge in June still. I sure hope the FBI doesn't search my camera.

Not only do I have pictures of The Golden Gate Bridge on my camera; I have pictures of AT&T Park (where the Giants play), statues of Juan Marichal and Willie Mays, the Transamerica Building, Fisherman's Wharf, Alcatraz, Lombard Street, and the Pacific Ocean (yes I plan on blowing up the ocean).

this summer will see a sudden upsurge in terror warnings and it will all suddenly dissappear as soon as the election is over.

I think your tin foil hat is a little too tight there Rover.

http://img70.exs.cx/img70/9281/aproval_vs_alert_chart_NEW.gif (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html)

I thought it was attached to his approval ratings? I guess when that didn't pan out, it was tied to the Elections.

http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=1451

Unconfirmed Sources has received the Terror Alert Schedule for the upcoming 2006 congressional election season. The Terror Alert Schedule lays out the dates and alert levels for the for the next twelve months.

Well true to form you've once again posted drivel.

Ok so did I dream up that the authorities had captured someone with cellphones and also had some passenger manifests and airline data? Were there more than one arrest?

Gosh, I need to watch the news tonight lol.

I have pictures I took of the Golden Gate Bridge in June still. I sure hope the FBI doesn't search my camera.

Not only do I have pictures of The Golden Gate Bridge on my camera; I have pictures of AT&T Park (where the Giants play), statues of Juan Marichal and Willie Mays, the Transamerica Building, Fisherman's Wharf, Alcatraz, Lombard Street, and the Pacific Ocean (yes I plan on blowing up the ocean).

OMG...you have pictures of a landmark...I bet next you'll say you photographed the bridge to have a visual memory of your trip to california.

I know your kind...you take pictures and sell them to people in the middle east.

I was talking with my local terror cell the other day, and I suggested that they should just do a search using Google or Yahoo images to get pictures of their potential targets, they told me it was much easier to load everyone into a van and travel a few thousand miles, take the picture then leave a copy of it in the van for future reference. But hey...who am I to argue with a terror cell...they know what they are doing.

You caught me.

On another note, I carry two cellphones with me everywhere (one personal and one work related). Look out, I can build a detonator. :eek:

I'm doubly glad of the arrests, not because I spent half the weekend flying, but because it was made largely by police employing classic policework and not the massive, unaccountable and well-abused spy networks that everyone but the American public knows don't do jack about terror but are great for other political purposes.

Naturally GWB "Just isn't that worried" about bin Ladin and AQ.

I'm doubly glad of the arrests, not because I spent half the weekend flying, but because it was made largely by police employing classic policework and not the massive, unaccountable and well-abused spy networks that everyone but the American public knows don't do jack about terror but are great for other political purposes.

Naturally GWB "Just isn't that worried" about bin Ladin and AQ.

Which arrests are you glad about, the ones that were actual terrorists in England or the ones that were based on racial profiling in the US?

On a side note I was watching this comedian on HBO, he pointed out that it has been great for the African American community because for the first time in our nations history they are not the main targets of profiling.

The ones in England. The ones here were non-news and likely wouldn't have made it past the flood of air travel delay stories if not for the ethnicity.

Its just so amazing, there are reports of all of this potential terrorism all over the news lately, more and more everyday...I guess its the weather.

"classic policework"

Classic policework including the torture in Pakistan?

I suppose torture is classic policwork -- particularly if you're a Chicago policeman.

"classic policework"

Classic policework including the torture in Pakistan?

I suppose torture is classic policwork -- particularly if you're a Chicago policeman.

Sources please......

Sources for which?

The torture in Pakistan:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1844053,00.html

http://tinyurl.com/g66h6

The torture by Chicago policemen:

http://www.chicagosuntimes.com/output/news/coptort19.html

The fact that the police also used "spy network" financial transaction tracing instead of "classic" policework to uncover the plot?

I see the word torture, but I don't see an explanation how the terrorist was tortured....
Unless it's mentioned in the second link, which requires a subscription.
Regardless, the police officers were wrong to do what they did.
This doesn't mean that all police officers are bad.