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LummusL
06-06-2010, 07:38 AM
Given how pissed off the voters seem to be, I would guess that most incumbents are history. Anyone who campaigns on austerity measures, reduction of government as well as the debt and anything else centered on the whole Tea Party/Ron Paul model will win. The majority of the government (State and Federal) across the board shifts to the Right and Obama is history after one term. Once he is out, most government spending programs he enacted will be reversed or some attempts made to reverse them. In a nutshell, 1994 all over again, only much deeper since the economy was not in as dire straights back then.

Thoughts?

Elemak the Enchanter
06-06-2010, 07:54 AM
I think the democratic majority will blow right back out of town just as quickly as it blew in. They ran hard on the "we're gonna unfuck Bush's mess" platform and well, yeah...

I just hope Nancy Pelosi gets her grandstanding ass booted out of office. The only useful thing she has done with her life is feed plants carbon dioxide.

Kelraz Bladesinger
06-06-2010, 09:03 AM
Most people who study the polls and campaigns for a living are approaching it a lot more conservatively than you two. Incumbants are losing primaries left and right so we probably won't see as many Dem losses as you envision. There will be some, but they will still undoubtedly have the majority in the House and probably the Senate.

While Obama's popularity is "low", 48% isn't too bad against a nonexistant competitor. While I am frustrated with his politics he'll probably be quite a contender when the time comes.

Elemak the Enchanter
06-06-2010, 06:06 PM
Well, I guess a better way to put it is, the current democrats in office are on their way out. A good number of republicans too. People are sick and tired of being sick and tired of their politicians.

Nekko1
06-06-2010, 06:46 PM
Change ! 2010, Jan Brewer for President 2012

Malse
06-06-2010, 09:38 PM
Well, I guess a better way to put it is, the current democrats in office are on their way out. A good number of republicans too. People are sick and tired of being sick and tired of their politicians.

Right, but they're replacing them with more politicians. I'm sure there is going to be a lot of turnover in both parties within a set of highly agitated districts, but outside of those I don't really see a the big sea change the talking heads never shut up about. In 1993 you had strong Republican leadership to take advantage of the mood, this year the Republicans are saying anything they can't not to get caught on the train tracks of their own craziest constituents.

It'll be interesting to see if Obama goes back into campaign mode again.

Kelraz Bladesinger
06-06-2010, 10:09 PM
It'll be interesting to see if Obama goes back into campaign mode again.

When did he stop? I've shot him half a dozen times since he's become President and he's been making stump speeches and hosting huge rallies just like when he was running for office. The topics he'll start to campaign for will probably be a lot more popular topics, probably, but he certainly hasn't slowed down any.

Though in his defense, he's working his ass off and the number of problems his administration is facing is quite daunting if not unprecedented. 2 wars, the recession and the mass unemployment, Mexico's trouble spilling over the border, and of course the gulf oil spill.

I know this is anecdotal and hardly evidence, but the past 2 times I was at the White House he's been extremely busy or even rushed, despite the generally fun topics we were there to discuss. He kept us to our set 15 minutes and didn't stick around to chit chat afterward or anything. By comparison: Bush, on the day of his final State of the Union, showed up 45 minutes early to the interview we did with him (which sent us into a panic since we weren't really ready) and stayed to joke around for about 20 minutes after the interview finished. I'm told Clinton and Reagan would do the same - though I've never had the pleasure.

fildien
06-07-2010, 06:33 AM
I think it's time as voters we stop expecting some golden child to come in and fix all the problems in one fail swoop and instead allow them to focus on just one or two. Too much juggling, too much blamestorming, too much of too much.

Bise
06-08-2010, 06:47 AM
Right Fild, we need someone to come in with the expectation to just keep us out of wars we don't need to be in and not spend any more money, and let the states try to fix their own problems....

Greystone Thorngage
06-11-2010, 11:39 PM
We need to get rid of the D's and R's, make people actually educate themselves on the people they put in office and take a more proactive roll in staying that way. Too many people these days do not fit into the classic Democrat or Republican categories any more. Personally I am morally conservative but fiscally liberal, which means I actually have to research people running to see who comes the closest to my ideals.

IMO remove the party labels from the ballot if people are too stupid to not know what party a person is, or what their platform is, they should have to randomly guess because that is what their vote is worth. My sister I wanted to beat her ass I just found out in last election she just "voted for all the names with D's". I would wager there is enough of people out there that strictly vote party line that it would make a difference if people took 10 minutes out of their day to stay current...

/rant off.