Yes the drop rate on tradeable items has been drasticaly nerfed. Why? Ask ****** why !!!!

You Fucked this entire server you greedy cock sucker.

If anyone knows this low life ass whole tell him thanks for fucking us.

Lopp Syded

Great NAG! Now wheres the data to prove your theory?

Yah he pretty much fucked the whole game up with his duping and macroquesting. If you surfed certain sites and you knew common math and had any sign of intelligence you could put the facts together heh.

Hey buyza,

Instead of putting me down, why dont you just post some links where i can read this information.

obvious i dont surf "certain" sites otherwise i would have put the facts together.

Educate me dick :)

How would duping and macroquesting be related to getting droppable items drop rates reduced?

How?

Well, when some ASS HOLE dupes 2 Billion pp and transfers to over 100 accounts, this fucks up the economy. Any economy has to have ballance, including EQ. Right now, it is fucked up and to fix it, they have to Nerf the drop rate of items in game.

Tell me the last time someone got a named to spawn in most zones. I talked to Riely from LotJ yesterday in CT and they didn't see a named for over 12 hours. I personally have not seen a named in 3 zones (CT-Droga-Chardock) over the last 20 hours that I have been in them. When usually I see a named pop every 2 hours.

Again, ******, you greedy piece of shit.

Lopp Syded

well good :)

I think all items should be nodrop anyways.

I cried when they patched and all the items in CT became droppable.

Ok...now where is the proof that ****** has been duping plat?

I dunno about proof, but I surf over to PA on occasion, hoping against hope that I will live to see the day that a few uber-dorks can't sell their leet platz and phatz for rl cash. From the looks of things, there must be 100,000,000pp up for sale right now, and nobody bidding. You know, there once was a time I actually enjoyed this damned game...

Dfrac

Well, I feel sorry for you in droga then Dennod. Thats my usual farm spot. I can get at least 4 sword of the bloodsworns in about 8 hours of camping. Have gotten 2 hammers (the one time i did take a group down to try that camp) in about as many hours. We are all subject to the RNG :(

You know, there once was a time I actually enjoyed this damned game...



Player auctions doesnt do anything to ruin the game for you, you do.

If something as trivial as this ruins the game for you, then maybe you should seek out another game, probally one that isnt an online multiplayer game.

Why dont you try playing everquest and enjoying it for the social aspects that are setup, and the content in which sony delivers so gracefully :) and stop caring what money hungry aholes are doing. They dont affect you, at all. So get over it.

Baltyn Writes

and stop caring what money hungry aholes are doing. They dont affect you, at all. So get over it.

Excuse me? This effect everything that deals with pp and items (Spells included) in the game. This will change everyones prices in the bazaar. If you don't think that this will change the game, you are completely wrong.

Hill Giants will drop less cash for the lower level people. Hence, people will get discouraged easier and quite the game because they take to long to get items because they dont have the pp to purchase decent items.

People that are not in guilds that need to do groups to get equipment will not see equipment. I know you have LDoN, but to get 1 decent item you have to do what 30 adventures? Thats 75 hours of adventuring at the most and that is for 1 item.

What about people that need to purchase spells? They will wait longer for them now!!!!

Everyone has a different view on what they enjoy in this game, being raiding for some, grouping for others, soloing, farming, socializing and trading.

But, this will definately effect anyone that deals with any tradable item and pp in a whole. And my friend, this will definately effect you somewhere down the ways.

So to say "They don't effect you" is completely WRONG. This ass hole effected the entire server.

Hah looks like you guys are right. IGE was still paying around $150-$175 per 100k 2-3 months ago if I remember right, here's the latest from their website.

We apologize for lowering our purchase prices, but we are left with no choice. It is rumored that our competitor has access to a large duplication bug (an exploit to make free platinum by the millions) and has lowered his prices both for buying and selling. Because of these drastic price changes being made by our competitor, we are left with no choice but to constantly lower our buy prices to be able to be competitive a few days after they lower their prices. We do not want to lower prices, but the rumored dupe bug is the cause.

Our competitor's behavior leads us to believe he has decided to destroy the market and only cares about making a quick last buck, while shamelessly endangering the livelyhood of hundreds of EverQuest sellers. We hope you will remember this once prices are back to normal.



They are down to paying $60 for 100k. Looks like the EQ economy as far as buying or selling with plat is screwed.

shamelessly endangering the livelyhood of hundreds of EverQuest sellers


Cry me a river. When your business is imaginary, so is your job security.

Well there is the still same money to be made I just work in higher volume now so it just makes my a job that much harder, but I will live with it I guess.

I am not even talking about playerauction I am talking about in game shit.

I can care less who makes RL cash on this game. I care that he is an ass hole and fucking the entire server community.

That's my point...regardless if you think buying/selling plat for RL cash is wrong, this fucks the in game enconomy too. With millions of plat introduced into the system, I wonder if we will start reverting back to the old "trades only" system?

Baltyn Writes

First of all, Pay attention.


Excuse me? This effect everything that deals with pp and items (Spells included) in the game. This will change everyones prices in the bazaar. If you don't think that this will change the game, you are completely wrong.

Plat comes, and plat goes, prices go up and down. And for spells, goto hell :) when POP came out, i made 15k per copy of virtue. Now, its worth 100pp or less :/ sorry, ****** didnt do that.


Hill Giants will drop less cash for the lower level people. Hence, people will get discouraged easier and quite the game because they take to long to get items because they dont have the pp to purchase decent items.

You would be the kind of person to hunt hill giants for plat. I never went to that god forsaken ebay zone. I started this game not knowing anyone, i made friends, grew, leveled, made money, figured it out on my own, did a damn fine job, and now.. im a cleric who could kick your ass from here to Odin and back.

People that are not in guilds that need to do groups to get equipment will not see equipment. I know you have LDoN, but to get 1 decent item you have to do what 30 adventures? Thats 75 hours of adventuring at the most and that is for 1 item.

I got a great face mask, only took 14 adventures. Not to mention, all my gear.. OMG on my own without buying plat, before i joined a raiding guild. WOW! adventures dont take more then an hour, rarely they go 1.5 hours.

What about people that need to purchase spells? They will wait longer for them now!!!!

This is sonys fault, not ******. Have you been to POK library yet? ****** doesnt make 65 spells 20k, sony does by putting them only on boss mobs.

Everyone has a different view on what they enjoy in this game, being raiding for some, grouping for others, soloing, farming, socializing and trading.

Duh.

But, this will definitely effect anyone that deals with any tradable item and pp in a whole. And my friend, this will definitely effect you somewhere down the ways.

Nope, never effected me once, wont ever effect me.

So to say "They don't effect you" is completely WRONG. This ass hole effected the entire server

Im still waiting for you to show me how ****** affects our server.

I don't understand what exactly is happening? if drops are being nerfed then prices would be going higher.. that's not the case, prices are steadily dropping like they usually do..

No if droga was nerfed, maybe it was broken and fixed now.. just like sol ro.. it was broken and now it's fixed, you don't see sol ro flagged people posting about nerfs, they saw a good thing, took advantage and knew it was going to end someday...

8 hours for 2 16k hammers and 4 8k swords is a bit too much considering the ease of the mobs.

On wednesday after the patch all hte macros and such will be fixed again so prices will rise and hopefully most the plat he has and sold will be deleted and it should help level out the market.

Basically ****** screws up the market this way, over 50% of people who play EQ ebay in some type of form. Most likely half the people who ebay buy plat. If they can now get 1 million plat for that same amount that they use to get only 100k for that will flood the market at an insane rate making item prices rise and drop at retarded rates causing an unstable irepairable market unless sony steps in to fix the duped and macroquested plat.

My only regret is that I never get in on these things before they're nerfed. Heh.

Perhaps it's all a marketing ploy by one of the auction sites!

actually silu, this was like in the last couple of days. The drop rate hasn't changed in droga hehe, which was my point. Stuff still drops pretty well there. Its just odds.

Actually, tradeskiller fumble upon these things first usually.

Their is a recipe that nets 40pp to a vendor per combine. I expect that will be nerfed in this patch.

The fletching exploit was only a few pp per combine, this one will cause a lot of damage before it's done. It apparently really picked up when SOE was out from the fires. When the cat is away......

remember the cheese :)

Zark,

I like LDoN and think that this is the correct way to have everything. No more farming, no more KS-ing, no more Training people. This system isn't perfect but it works well. I would change some things on it.

I have a questions for you, "Are you upset about this post?"
It seems to me that you are. If so, why? Did I hit a nerve? If so, why?

Prof of ****** doing this. I can't give you prof. I don't have it, but I do have a good contact that, lets say knows. If you want proof on these boards, you couldn't even get it from a GM here on this board. It isn't possable to prove it here.

I know that ****** has dupped cash, others know the same thing. If you don't want to believe this that is your choice. If by chance (And I say this not to offend you if you are not) you are him, involved with him or know people that are involved with him you are screaming at the wrong person, becuase anyone involved with this dick is as much of an ass hole as he is.

I have nothing else to say to you. So respond as you want, I am done commenting to you on this subject.

Siludorf,

I don't have a problem with them nerfing a zone because the items are to easy to get to or kill. I care that some person fucks the community and ****** has fucked the economy.

I say to you, wait and see how prices of items change in weeks to come. If in 3 - 4 weeks prices are the same or less, then I am wrong.

Lopp

Ok...now where is the proof that ****** has been duping plat?

Not really proof but have a look at this. (http://www.rpgexpert.com/395.html) Then consider the source.

Hes not an idiot, he found a great way to make money off that game. And if i could i hella would too.

He's an idiot...

But given the opportunity, I'd be an idiot too... =>

Even if those "macro's" are BS its still an interesting thought. Would I use a macro? Fuck yes I would have to answer.

He didn't just use a macro to make pp with vendors. He setup a way not to save his characters information every so often or when logging out.

So, he transfered pp to another account and logged. He came back and the character that didn't get a save on it still had the pp that he just transfered to another account

I have no idea how he did this, but, I know he was doing it.

character save bugs/dupes arent uncommon,

i remember on a MUD i played, i used to dupe items and money all the time.

Heres how it worked (might be similar to how hes doing it on EQ)

Before the servers shut down, there is a global save done to all active characters. Then when the server goes down, theres a roll back to that last save (if you stay active until the servers kick you) Player A gives Player B 100k pp, after the final save, right before servers shut down. (generally 1-4 minutes before servers go down) Player B logs out completely, thus saving 100k on it. Player A gets forced out and rolls back, thus having 100k on him again.

Little food for thought.

Ok 2 things:

1 dupping PP/items etc has NOTHING to do with drop rate ingame. SOE didn't lower it because ****** duped a ton of pp, not sure where you are getting this other than in your mind.

2 What ****** is doing is easy: He block the packet sent to SOE after a trade which mean SOE Never register his account losing 1 million of pp but they register the second account getting it.

im a cleric who could kick your ass from here to Odin and back

i'd sure hate to have my ass kicked to Valhalla and back

I'd much rather be Loki and fuck with everyone.

Valhalla is so boring this time of year... Odin is the pwn

Kinu the drop rates on some droppables have been nerfed on all servers due to this. You just don't see it in the guild/level you are at (PoTime wasn't nerfed). Sony doesn't go around announcing things like that openly, but trust me it has.

****** is a bug, Sony is a multi million dollar company with intrest in thier game. EQ is over half a million people strong. If they backlash on this guy he will be shut down or even worse.

It's just a shame he has hurt the game because of his selfishness and greed.

Doesn't changing drop rates require a long patch? The same kind of patch that will be used to fix a bugged combine?

Whatever hehe they didn't change drop rate at all, just because you got unlucky with RNG. You can't change drop rates on the fly, you need a patch and there hasn't been one.

If they backlash on this guy he will be shut down or even worse.Maybe I misunderstood your point but wouldn't you think that would be a good thing?

No wonder Zarkarin doesnt find a problem or care about duping/macros, as she is by her own admission experienced in the 'ways of the scammer'. Tell me another story about stickin it to the man?

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

I cleared Sewers for 14 hours yesterday, not one named spawned. =/ I'd be happy with a skeeter earring or a damn ring.

I dont think they need a patch to change drop rates and rare mob spawn frequency. To my understanding mobs spawn from EQ's computers, not ours.Hence we dont need the updated files to patch. The only zone I have noticed a decline in rates is solro myself.

Exactly--they need to bring servers down to patch _their_ computers.

The client side changes are probably pretty insignificant compared to the changes that happen server side with each patch.

As far as CT mob rarity, its been like that since a few months after the revamp, its not a recent change

The spawn rate and drops in The Deep haven't been changed as far as I can tell. Names still spawn where/when they're supposed to. I wish Sony would tune the drop rate though.....a couple of hours a day for two weeks and no frikkin sap yet. :(

Well I dont post here often but I read it all. I have not noticed any difference in the drop rate on anything. So I personally have not seen that it was nerfed. However, I can say that I really dont mind if they make it harder. If it was easy than everyone would have the best stuff.

As far a Hill Giants, why waste your time on them, they are always over camped and there is much better plat else where.

Bhaad

Dude, you can solo Hill Giants?!

No wonder Zarkarin doesnt find a problem or care about duping/macros, as she is by her own admission experienced in the 'ways of the scammer'. Tell me another story about stickin it to the man?



I do find it to be a problem but i dont care. Its not my place to care. I dont work for sony, and it doesnt affect me.

As long as its in 1's and 0's someone can and will compromise it. Get over it.

fungoid saps have always been rare as hell, but they were a fun thing to solo ;)

generally i got about .75 saps per clear of all the shrooms in the far side of the deep, and yes belze, it is a fun solo. But i always perferred the solo run there to the actual soloing of the mobs.

Was it RLR or LRL? can't remember

LRL is a dead end :)

Exactly--they need to bring servers down to patch _their_ computers.

You'd be surprised what they can do without the need to bring down the servers.

Like what?

Sure in theory they should be able to update databases without bringing servers down, but as far as I know they've never done that.

Patch times are really just a break for the poor hamsters running things, everyone knows that. Not to mention, it's seldom a wise idea to play with live files.

And Dart, Loki looses in the end. Gotta pick a winner, his death ain't pretty.

As for dupers - if I knew a dupe (and I'm always the last to know) I'd report it too. No, I don't care about 1 million plat, if it was that important I'd buy it online. I do, however, miss the wonderful social experience I logged into several years ago that seems to be becoming more and more degraded by crap like this. More than willing to help fight off scum like ******.


-Kanyli

Hehehe, well, I wouldn't mind if they took the server down every single day at this point. /rude Ssra.

some interesting shit here:

forums.interealms.com/sha...adid=17710 (http://forums.interealms.com/shaman/showthread.php?threadid=17710)

ct drop rate has't changed, I spend alot of time in CT and I almost always walk out every night with 2-3 drops pending on my time there and loc. usually can get toxxic hunter or dreadfangs in a hour or two.

Now as to the quest drops there, those are a bit slower, or I was unlucky.

All TS items in CT seem on same drop rate.

tactic gnome is now nerfed. doesn't drop elemental armour anymore .. i am going to stick to Ice giants and make PHAt PLAT.