I just read about the Arod deal...im utterly disgusted.

Yes, I'm a Red Sox fan, so it pisses me off from that stand point, but The Yankees prove every season that something needs to be done, to prevent championships from being bought. Name last world series that was won by a majority of "nobodies". Twins vs Braves?? 90% of the baseballs talent lies in 5 teams (The Sox are just as guilty). Every other sport has methods of preventing 1 team from buying every good player, its time baseball did to.

Baseball should go back to the days of raising players through their own Minor Leagues, and building teams internally, not waiting for fee agency every year to decide who will play what position on next years roster.

You could do that.

ANd the players could sue for free agency rights again.

And win again.

My solution is simple...stop watching pro baseball. Sooner or later the revenue collected from TV will dwindle and owners will not be willing to fork over the big bucks. If you can't get your baseball fix, go down and watch minor league or even scholastic level baseball. Screw the pros.

I agree with Gulor. Fuck Pro baseball! A bunch of overpaid crybabies that bitch they dont get paid enough. Now you have teams buying championships.

I stopped watching baseball after the last strike they had and now it just reminds me why. They take a good sport and totally fuck it up with luxury tax bullshit ect.

EQ needs salary cap.

I used to watch baseball constantly. I have a baseball card collection in the 10's of thousands.

When they went on strike, it blew everything I had ever though about baseball and professional sports.

I haven't made an effort to watch a game, or buy any more cards since.

You may say what's one pickle in a barrel, but they lost a good customer, and they may never get him back.

Baseball is the most boring ass shit to watch. EVER.

great marz! too bad this is about salary caps and not how other people find it boring

i stopped watching baseball after tony gwynn left, the legends of the sport is what made it fun to watch for me, and of all i don't find any of the new people skilled players fun to watch and i can't stand their constant whining

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they'll be doing mandatory steroid tests this season, yes?

I don't enjoy the sport, but it's part of American culture. In that sense, it'd be a shame to see it fall apart.

It's gonna be very interesting to see if Barry Bonds and some of the other big hitters and pitchers magically lose some significant weight this season.....

/nod Mirdorr :)

I was thinking the exact same thing when I hear that new report, and that Bonds' trainer was specifically mentioned...

And Bonds in particular seems to exhibit some, erm, personality traits which are consistent with steroid usage.
Truthfully, I expect that this will continue to be a never ending cycle, with folks tweaking these compounds in order to escape detection, athletes continuing to use them (and trainers to encourage their use), simply because, with the stakes so high, folks are willing to take the risks to succeed...

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A bunch of overpaid crybabies that bitch they dont get paid enough.
This is for every professional sport.

Name last world series that was won by a majority of "nobodies". Twins vs Braves??

Grey, that may be the last game played by a majority of nobodies, but I think you only have to go back to last year to find the last year the series was won by a majority of nobodies. After I-Rod, there really were no big names on the Marlins till after the series.

"Baseball is the most boring ass shit to watch. EVER."


you have bever seen cricket be played...

if the majority of casual baseball fans boycott baseball it will only hurt the small market teams more and make the yankees/redsox/dodgers/cubs... even better. As the small market teams can afford less, the even better talent will spread to the large market temas even more. Baseball definately needs a hard cap similar to the NFL. Look at the parity instilled in football by a hard cap, 91% of all NFL games last year were sold out, only 4 teams were eliminated from playoff contention as late as week 13. That excitement and meaning to nearly every late season game is one of the major things that makes football america's game now over baseball.

seems to exhibit some, erm, personality traits

Heh. Well, in Bonds' defense, he's been a jerk since day 1.

all you anti baseball idiots can kiss my ass...

Cry and whine all you like about George being smarter than Theo and pulling off a sweet deal that has the rangers paying 67 milllion...

Way I see things all this deep pocket bullshit about the Yankees doesn't mean crap when the the team with the most heart, and a fairly small salary cap won the whole thing..

I am very excited for baseball season to start...the cubs..the sox, the A's, the Angels...my dbacks....

Baseball had one of it's best seasons last year...don't be a buzz kill and bring up crap because you don't like the trade. Your team had the first shot and droped the ball...

Go yell at hockey fans, I smell a labor dispute there....

I'd actually be interested to know what personality traits of Barry Bonds Nydia finds consistent with steroid usage.

Does MLB have revenue sharing? If not that would help. And for us hockey fans. Yep, the CBA runs out at the end of the year and the owners and players union could not be further apart. Don't look for a 04/05 season or at least not a long one. Shit i'd pay them to let me play as a strike player..LOL I played 3 years of Junior A hockey. Gimmie a couple months and I can at least not embarrass my self..HEH With these players today it does not matter what sport they get greedy because that kinda money is what the market will bare. A-hole gets 67 bajillion bucks because people are willing to pay for those tickets and pay for those 8$ hot dogs all day long.

>Baseball had one of it's best seasons last year...don't be a buzz kill and bring up crap because you don't like the trade. Your team had the first shot and droped the ball...


actually last year was at an all time low, not a whole lot of people tuned in for the world series, and the play offs were less then popular


bary bonds does something i think is called blood duping? where he saves vials of blood and after he makes up the lost blood he injects the blood to his body giving him more red blood cells, not sure if he still does steroids

It's blood doping and yes he takes out blood. lets the blood supply refill it's self but then the saved blood is really oxygenated and then reinjected. it gives the body unreal energy and stamina.

I'd actually be interested to know what personality traits of Barry Bonds Nydia finds consistent with steroid usage.

Well, for starters, I guess any one of the screaming fights he gets into in the dugout with various managers and players like Jeff Kent.

doesn't mean crap when the the team with the most heart, and a fairly small salary cap won the whole thing.

Leadoff hitting issues and a hitting slump were the biggest issues, both of which he addressed this winter with lots of cash.

Roid Rage..its for real!

Ahh... I don't follow Barry Bonds much but I've never seen any of these screaming fights. Let's take Mark McGuire though... everyone knows he uses steroids and yet hes pretty mild mannered. All the NFL lineman use or have used steroids and in general they're incredibly mild mannered. The roid rage generalization is bogus. I've seen more people actually get freaked out by the "natural" supplements that are generally accepted. There used to be a really popular product called "Up Time" that lifters would take before a workout or before a competition that would wig people out like they'd just powerchugged 3 pots of coffee.

Blood doping is a process where you draw blood over a period of time and isolate all of the red blood cells in a small amount of serum and store them. Before competition you take a transfusion of this concentrated blood and in is supposed to increase your cardiovascular capacity for that short period of time. Over the course of a baseball season the only use I could see from blood doping would be perhaps to increase the rate of muscle recovery.

everyone knows he uses steroids

No, McGwire did not use steroids. He used a substance that was not classified as a steroid, but WAS on the last of substances the NFL and Olympics tests for.

As for the NFL lineman thing - are you serious? have you seen documentaries on Bill Romanowski or Lyle Alzado? These are guys whose own teammates were sometimes afraid of them.

Let's take Mark McGuire though... everyone knows he uses steroids and yet hes pretty mild mannered. All the NFL lineman use or have used steroids and in general they're incredibly mild mannered

Unless your around these people 24 hours a day thats a pretty generalized statement.

Crime statistics are lower amongst professional and college athletes. Violent crime statistics are much lower amongst professional and college athletes. If roid rage were a factor wouldn't you expect them to be higher?

I've spent a lot of time around several people who have been on steroids for short or long periods of time, and only one of them was ever "scary" and he was always a dick by all reports so...

You can call it a generalized statement, and you're probably right. But the fact is that people like the previous guy there will give you a few examples like Romanowski, Alzado, Ray Lewis, or Lawrence Taylor and say see I told you so. I think me saying offensive lineman are generally pretty mild mannered... note the word generally... is much less of a generalization than giving two or three examples and calling the generalization false.

I am really very surprised that statistics are showing less violent crime amongst athletes than the general population. I would have guessed exactly the opposite from my personal experiences. Or maybe, it's just that crimes are not reported as much when it is the star of the local team doing the dirty work. Dunno. I just find it surprising.

people like the previous guy there will give you a few examples like Romanowski, Alzado, Ray Lewis, or Lawrence Taylor and say see I told you so

You're changing the subject from "steroids produce rage" to "offensive linemen on steroids don't have fits of rage."

Steroid induced anger/violence is pretty well documented, and I don't really see any reason to debate it.

Btw, no one points to Ray Lewis or Lawrence Taylor and says "steroids."

People point to Lewis and say "criminal." People point to Taylor and say "cocaine addict."

Umm glad you made that point I guess.

Actually, though culture in general accepts the link, as you have, studies on the subject are equivocal. Animal and human studies showing increased aggressive behavior in animals and humans with naturally high testosterone levels are well documented. Amongst well controlled studies though, definitive evidence has yet to be shown.

I'll say this though... my best friend and another very close friend are natural bodybuilders. They've taken AAS cycles in the past for short periods, and regret it but thats another story. The thing is that when we've been playing basketball in the past its happened several times that one of them would get mad about something and someone would say "roid rage." You wanna see roid rage? Try suggesting to a natural bodybuilder that they are roiders. Just because you're big doesn't mean that you used steroids, and just because you use steroids, doesn't mean you're going to be aggressive.

True. Also true that less than 100% of people who smoke end up with cancer. Doesn't really mean a whole lot.

It does if you're the one with the cancer.