View Full Version : Blanco hits one out of the park.
Fandros
03-03-2006, 12:27 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186688,00.html
Youch....
Fandros
Rover
03-03-2006, 02:26 AM
Thats not really that damning. She said in it she wasn't sure. I think the problem is that it seems both FEMA and the National weather service were reporting that the levees had been breeched and it seems that no one cared.
The other problem, which is much more damning eveidence is that Bush basically lied and said that the levee breaching was something that he and the squirrely looking guy Chertoff were caught completely unaware that the levees had any potential to fail. But otherwise its no surprise that Blanco was wrong, she's proven herself to be a mediocre leader during a severe crisis.
Unfortunately or maybe somehow fortunately Katrina has shown that we are way off track when it comes to disaster preparedness on ALL levels. One can only hope that the next time there is a better response on ALL levels.
As a side note the breaking of the levees was predicted back in 1973 or so by this group of british citizens. I have an audio recording of it you can listen here (http://www.netmediazone.net/fandros/leveebreaks.mp3)
Lleauric
03-03-2006, 06:49 AM
Isnt it crazy that this comes out at the same time as the Bush video tape? Lol. <3 Politics
Sixee
03-03-2006, 08:13 AM
Well, when you live in a city that is only there because walls are holding 2 large masses of water back to keep it dry, something is bound to go wrong.
We just need to realize, if Mother Nature wants to flood a city, it's gonna get flooded LOL.
akipt
03-03-2006, 08:46 AM
Isnt it crazy that this comes out at the same time as the Bush video tape? Lol. <3 PoliticsAP released both you dolt... but the only one that caught traction yesterday was Bush's completely out of context video.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-katrina2mar02,1,7696792.story?page=2&coll=la-headlines-nation&ctrack=1&cset=true
The AP video does not include footage of Chertoff asking Brown whether he needs any other help or of Chertoff asking whether Brown wants him to approach the Department of Defense. Transcripts show that to both questions, Brown indicated that no additional assistance was needed.
In the transcript of a briefing the following day, Aug. 29, Brown is quoted as saying that Bush "is very engaged, and he's asking a lot of really good questions I would expect him to ask."
That Aug. 29 transcript showed that hours after the hurricane hit, federal and state officials remained optimistic about handling the disaster and were unaware that the levees in New Orleans were failing.The media and some people here I think are confusing the basic levee problem. When they say they were topped, it just means the water was flowing over it. It doesn't mean the levee was failing. Though bad news, it wasn't a disaster that can't be handled. It was a few (?) days before this turned into levee breaches, which was the real disaster.REALITY: Bumbling by top disaster-management officials fueled a perception of general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors. In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's landfall.
Dozens of National Guard and Coast Guard helicopters flew rescue operations that first day--some just 2 hours after Katrina hit the coast. Hoistless Army helicopters improvised rescues, carefully hovering on rooftops to pick up survivors. On the ground, "guardsmen had to chop their way through, moving trees and recreating roadways," says Jack Harrison of the National Guard. By the end of the week, 50,000 National Guard troops in the Gulf Coast region had saved 17,000 people; 4000 Coast Guard personnel saved more than 33,000.
These units had help from local, state and national responders, including five helicopters from the Navy ship Bataan and choppers from the Air Force and police. The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries dispatched 250 agents in boats. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), state police and sheriffs' departments launched rescue flotillas. By Wednesday morning, volunteers and national teams joined the effort, including eight units from California's Swift Water Rescue. By Sept. 8, the waterborne operation had rescued 20,000.
While the press focused on FEMA's shortcomings, this broad array of local, state and national responders pulled off an extraordinary success--especially given the huge area devastated by the storm. Computer simulations of a Katrina-strength hurricane had estimated a worst-case-scenario death toll of more than 60,000 people in Louisiana. The actual number was 1077 in that state.
I am calling this a successful rescue operation... even if Nagin and Blanco dragged their feet on numerous occasions.
The failure was in the levees... and the media for completely blowing their coverage of this ... and the politicians for making this a partisan issue in their feedback-loop from the media's hysterical errant reporting.
Lleauric
03-03-2006, 08:56 AM
AP released both you dolt..
AP isnt investigative journalism. It is a clearing house for news. They print and report basically what is fed to them.
btw, does Al-Sadr still "get it" loelz :D
Sixee
03-03-2006, 09:04 AM
I thought George Bush personally planted explosives on the levees so that the poor, black neighborhoods would flood, and the rich, white neighborhoods would stay high and dry.
I saw a picture of him and his dad fishing in New Orelans during the flooding, so it must be true....*
*Sarcasm
akipt
03-03-2006, 09:26 AM
does Al-Sadr still "get it" loelz Yes. Doesn't mean I wouldn't put a bullet in his head, but he gets it more than you.
PheloniusRM
03-03-2006, 10:32 AM
Fandros the moderate posting something highly partisan from foxnews.com. If it walks like a duck....
Fandros
03-03-2006, 10:56 AM
Awwweeee poor Phel....still upset are we...
I could've used a CNN link, the story was released at the same time there.
See, unlike your narrow tunnel vision Ruby glassed life I tend to read stories from all sides.
Keep shooting tho boyo, perhaps one day you'll wake up and realize the truth.
Fandros
akipt
03-03-2006, 11:55 AM
Fandros the moderate posting something highly partisan from foxnews.com. If it walks like a duck....99% of the news articles on Foxnews' website are AP releases.
shanno
03-03-2006, 02:59 PM
Fandros the moderate posting something highly partisan from foxnews.com. If it walks like a duck....
....it must have the bird flu?
This whole thing still boils down to both sides screwed up, and it is being used by both sides to fling shit at the other. To say this is Bush's fault is just as wrong to say it is Blanco's fault. To say that FEMA is a utter failure under HLS is unfounded, when there were other disasters since 2003 that they covered just fine. It is becoming a broken record...
**added the word "whole"
I just love the way they brief Bush the day before the hurricane hits and tell him that it could cause massive flooding and devastation etc.... If I were Bush I would have responded..... and you want me to do WHAT about it now?
It has been long known that the levee's were not hurricane proof. As a life long Louisianian it is common knowledge that is even joked about (well *was* joked about).
Maybe we need the Arabs from Dhubi to run that port city.... Maybe they can straighten it out :)
Edit: It is kind of like telling people in California that there could be a Level 10 Earthquake on the rhictor (sp) scale ....and it will cause alot of damage.
They all know that if it happens it is gonna be bad.
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