Hello all.

Flexen and Moneybagz overprice our bazaar. They make real alot cash of the last 6-12 month and for what ? i hear (and i think the same) they sell it for real $ and i only can hope, Sony get this guys and baned it.
Iksar BP now 17k LOL a joke, two tined pitchfork 20k ROFL what a joke, WMBS 17k hell never.
Not all player are super rich.

BOYCOTT ->> Please dont buy item,s from this robber to get our old economy back.

PS: Sorry for my poor english but better a bit as nothing ;)

come on...
they too high for you.. dont buy
they are not forcing you to buy from them

are you gonna bitch every time someone charges what you feel is too high?

get real

You are a friend from Flexen or Moneybagz ?.
I know for sure that the price for most item,s are to high for alot other player.
And i have no problem to say it here.

no i am not their friend
dont even know who they are
this is a NAG post.. not an auction post

either way.. you gonna bitch the next time has an item you want for 1k too much?

They sell it for $$? Tight, let me go send them a tell. I am sure I wont be boycotting them. Whatever they want to sell for they can. Part of how our economy works.

No need to be a bitch, Alyxzandra.



Maylen Bojangles

dont even know who they are

Maybe you should shut your fucking cock holster then.

I don't even play that much, but from what I see they are buying up every valuable item they can get their hands on and jacking the prices way the fuck up.

The economy here is entirely supply and demand based. Two ppl jacking up their prices does not change the fact that people can buy from others who don't. The reason most of our prices are skewed was the plat duping problem from a few months back that is now resolved. Everyone got worried that too many people had too much money so they jacked the prices.

Those two DO overprice. I personally don't care. If people don't want it, they won't buy it. Capitalism at work. You have got to be a liberal. While I have never bought from those two (man they really are expensive), I applaud their efforts and they've my best wishes.

Zaphrod Beeblebrox
Right Wing Maniac

By the by. Moneybagz, incidentally, bought my Tranquil Staff from me for about 3.5K more than I payed for it a month ago. I can't wait to see what he puts it up for, and I hope he overprices it too.. it was a damn good stick!

The economy here is entirely supply and demand based. Two ppl jacking up their prices does not change the fact that people can buy from others who don't.

when they have most of the supply, it definitely effects prices. Several times I have had him buy my items and just mark them up moments later...or seen a cheap item I would actually use and then seen him buy it.

What I usually do when I sell crap..if he's selling those items as well, I mark my prices above his.

What I usually do when I sell crap..if he's selling those items as well, I mark my prices above his.


Most people do. Or set them just a little over. That's how they jack up the prices.

Incidently those of you saying don't buy from them..that's just what the poster is saying. Let's ALL not buy from them so they don't fuck the economy even more(and don't kid yourself, they have fucked our server's prices up).

i personally set my prices to be lowest in bazaar cause i want to sell my items, many times i have seen my items bought then immediately but on trader for higher price. It sucks, but its how it works, if people are willing to pay the prices...but i do support boycotting the vendors the drive prices higher.

Oldtook buys all my stuff and rips you off.

Im like Greystone, i check what the prices are and i undercut the people selling for a butt load.

Same. I have to undercut. I am on a dial connection and the item has to sell before I go Linkdead. Otherwise, I gotta do it the old fashion way and /auc on the channel.

As for Flexen and Moneybagz, there really is no reason to buy anything off these two clowns. They buy goods IN THE BAZAAR, to resell, from other vendor mules and then jack up the prices. They are not always minding the store, so you can usually find the stuff you want before they buy it and send the price through the roof.

If you have ALOT of money and want that rare uber item so badly as to not shop around first, by all means, visit the shops of these two price gougers. A fool and his/her money are soon departed, as the old proverb states.

Money and flexen are same person and I know who it is! MUAHAHA first person to give me 100k in game will find out to!

my guess is that they are the same person too, considering that almost every time I see them online they have identical lore items for sale for the same exact price. I rarely if ever sell stuff in the bazaar for the going price, I almost always will sell low if only to get the cash right away. I dont have the patience to wait for it to sell. :p

Personally, boycott might be in order but I dont think it will really work that well. If they do in fact sell their EQ goods for RL money, there is just one problem. Is that all they do? If it is, then sure a boycott would work wonders since their income would dry up not having any platinum to sell.

Then again if its just a money on the side ventuer then it wouldnt really effect them that much.

keep in mind also that there is no way to tell who these people are. They ccould always make alts to buy your stuff and to make a new bazaar mule. It's almost impossible to stop. It bugs but what can we do...

Maybe you should shut your fucking cock holster then.

Greatest thing i have ever seen on the A-Ro boards.

Boycott is good to control prices which have gone out of control.

You should boycot every single retailer in the world as well then...afterall they just buy stuff and jack up the prices, right?

OK FINE! I'll tell you who it is for 50k in game... COME ON PEOPLE I NEED MA MONEY!
Edit Sig is too tall.

If you avoid paying the price at an inflated cost the price must go down as supply will then be increased if I understand and remember from economics. If you continue to buy at inflated prices you are contributing to the problem. Buy refusing to buy at inflated prices, then the sellers are forced to lower prices to move goods. And that I am sure is what they want to do. More plat to line their pockets no?

My thought is that somehow IGE/@#%$ is using toons like this on all servers to inflate prices so that they may sell more plat on thier websites.

I'll admit that I have bought from them, but only if I haven't found what I want for several tries.

Flixen and Moneybagz and Oldtook are 3 of the smartest people in the trading aspect of EQ. I have bought plenty off them and they have Bought plenty off my trader as well...

dont get mad at a few people that use the market in EQ. anyone could do the same thing that they do if they worked hard at it.

I could log my trader in and give you a 4th person to bitch about if ya really wanted me to.

Sorry Kaleader, I dont want your gauntlets of the black, so stop bugging me to buy them.

i like em, the moneybagz because thats what they are. money bags. if i get some nice piece of gear i can get what i "think" the real price is for it from these types of people and dont really give a damn that they 3x the price. i got mine.

A fool and his/her money are soon departed, as the old proverb states.

Ah, the many forms of irony.

Rofl!

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

From a buying standpoint, I admit that it sucks. I am happy that I am at the point where I never really need to buy anything expensive from the bazaar, as I very rarely play alts.

From a selling standpoint (which I do many times more often), it owns though. You announce your prices on items he has for 5% less, and one of them is instantly at your trader's doorstep snatching it up.

I have to agree with Sam here. From a sellers stand point whats better than selling your item fast and for a good price?

"dont get mad at a few people that use the market in EQ. anyone could do the same thing that they do if they worked hard at it."

True. That is if all you want to do in EQ is just be a merchant, and never actually go out and adventure or meet other people. But, if selling pixil money for tangable real world cash is how these suckers pay their bills, then actually playing is not even an issue. Its just another gig. Kinda like selling dope but not actually using the product.

Dont forget that you might have seen some price increases because of the tribute system. If an item used to be 1k, and now yields like 30k tribute points, I think its normal for their price to be slightly increased.

I am not defending overpricers, but in some rare cases, the price increase has a well founded cause.

Lani

lol like the forest loop? remember that one? People were selling the darn thing for 200pp and waiting endlessly to sell when they could get 300pp with a charisma buff from any vendor lol..

I made alot of money offa dat one)

if you're going to use your plat you earned to buy items from other players you're going to care if your item gets bought up and re sold for a higher price because odds are that's what will happen to your item you want to buy.

Nothing against what's going on in the bazaar but with a large enough bankroll you could fix this economy fairly well. and then that plat you happily got is worth 1/3rd the value because everything else is x3 the price cept them vendor peridots = p

I've seen Flexen bonking Moneybagz on the head in the bank etc, & occasionally their prices will differ. What I think they do is avoid undercutting each other.

Of corse they could just be pretending they aren't 2 boxed, but why bother...

As for boycotting them, well, I do in a way, as I know whatever the're selling will turn up on another trader much cheaper, so I never buy anything the're selling. Thank god for the lore tag.

Did buy a pair of boots off one of them once, but oddly, was 5p cheaper than normal PC on the item, & cheapest in bazaar at the time.

In my humble lowly opinion, I think it would be awesome if everybody charged triple or quadrouple the price of whatever the item be. This way people would actually have to go out and camp these weapons and items and work for them instead of just running to the bazaar and buying them. It might seem boring or tedious but it would make the game alot more interesting i'll betcha. People would respect what they have alot more instead of always being so damn greedy.

~Sense |I

This way people would actually have to go out and camp these weapons and items and work for them

Just about everything should have been No Drop from day one with the 99% of all armor and weapons player made. Even though Horizons is a mess the player trade skill driven economy was the right way to go.

I love it when flexen waits till my trader goes on .. he is my man buy more from me ..

These guys put a ton of thier time into buying and selling. I have no idea what thier end goal is nore do I care. If you dont like thier prices all you have to do is be patient and you will find your item for a price you do like.

Recently I was going to sell a high ticket item I had that I no longer used, I talked to Moneybagz and he was quite pleasent. I tried to negotiate a deal for an item he had + some pp for the item I was trying to sell. He didnt want to make the deal I offered him but he gave me an interesting alternative deal. I didnt take him up on it as I was pretty sure with patience I would get the item I wanted and the extra plat to spare if I tried. I did just that, I waited it out sold my item and bought the item I wanted with a surplus of PP that was almost exactly what I had offered Moneybagz. I understand why he woudlnt want to do my deal, as he would not have made any more proffit than what he was already going to make with his current item.

It may make some people jealous because they see a known trader buying stuff as it comes available as cheap as possible, then inflating that price and re-selling it. I say more power to them, they are making cash off people that either dont care how much they pay for an item, or making it off people who just dont want to spend the time looking for the "good" deal. I say instead of being upset because they put the time and effort into finding such items, you should put the time and effort into finding the deals yourself and not worry so much what the other guy is doing.

Not too long ago my room mates and I used to farm the crap out of some mobs and get items worth huge amounts of plat. I LOVED having people like Moneybagz and the others there to buy my stuff, we put it up for sale for cheap and who ever got it first was the winner. And people like them got it most of the time because they payed attention to the market and when certain items came available they bought the items.

I don't really care about them because they don't effect me, I pretty much try to farm whatever it is I am after.. BUT those of you using supply and demand must have dropped out of that class when monopoly and cornering the market were introduced...

boycotting would do nothing if they have the market cornered, say they are selling an item for 100k and buying it at 70k, that means the price for that item, in general, will not go under 70k and most likely will be well above 70k.

Well I think I know who they are just by watching out of game sales, but I do not want to say anything incase I am wrong. Maybe they do not even ebay (highly doubtful), but whatever they do they do it well. I personally do not like wasting my time in trade mode 1 bit if I ever sell items so I will undercut the shit out of everyone around just to get rid of them and they always buy me out. If you do not like it then farm enough plat or items and start trying to compete wtih them or just shut up...

I LOVED having people like Moneybagz and the others there to buy my stuff, we put it up for sale for cheap and who ever got it first was the winner. And people like them got it most of the time because they payed attention to the market and when certain items came available they bought the items.

I don't use the bazaar but anyway it sound like they use macros, I doubt they pay that much attention to it. Using macroquest you can form your own group and let your comp xp and loot for you. I m sure searching for some items in the bazaar and buying them if they are lower than X price is fairly easy to compile with macroquest as long as you know C some.

Yah would not suprise me, the person who I think it is has been known to use macros. Then again I may be wrong in my guessing. You can usually tell if they are a macro if they are on a run though, because they will follow the exact pathing for where they are going and back.