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Rover
09-23-2009, 11:08 PM
I wonder if this has anything to do with the right wing rhetoric about how the Census is going to be used in order to build death camps and all those other wingnut ideas. Michelle Bachmann was big on spouting the evils of the census and those who worked to gather the info.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/23/census-worker-hanged-with_n_297114.html
Kanyli
09-24-2009, 01:03 AM
Hard to say without more details, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Rover
09-24-2009, 01:09 AM
The police have declared it a murder. So what can the motivation be? The guy was a single father of two kids and worked 2 jobs.
Palarran
09-24-2009, 12:28 PM
Luckily not all Republicans share the same view about the census. My dad, a lifelong Republican, considered doing some part time census work himself after retiring (though he found a better opportunity).
Elemak the Enchanter
09-24-2009, 01:25 PM
Never knew the census was ebul! People are retarded these days.
Sanchek
09-24-2009, 01:42 PM
You have to assume it's one of these fringe nutjobs that did it, but I'm also reminded of how quickly everyone incorrectly assumed this moron (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-22-probation-false-attack_N.htm) was attacked by an Obama supporter for being a McCain supporter too at first.
Fandros
09-24-2009, 01:52 PM
I think even automatically going to the well of polarizing is falling to the evil that is rhetoric yourself.
There are far more reasons for violence than political parties. Maybe he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and seen something that someone didn't want seen?
Sixee
09-24-2009, 02:08 PM
Or maybe he looked like he had a lot of money? Perhaps someone there associated with drugs thought his work with the census was going to somehow put a crimp in their business?
I tend to agree with Fandros, there are lots of other reasons for someone like him to be killed, rather than it being political.
Heck, it might have even been a disgruntled former student of his.
Jedd Corpse
09-24-2009, 03:48 PM
You have to assume it's one of these fringe nutjobs that did it, but I'm also reminded of how quickly everyone incorrectly assumed this moron (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-22-probation-false-attack_N.htm) was attacked by an Obama supporter for being a McCain supporter too at first.
That moron faked it and wasn't found hanging with FED written on her. Big difference.
Regardless of what the circumstances of this murder, the current "how close to exploding" climate of our country is pretty close to "EXPLODE"
Thankfully Fox news is telling people what they need to know!!!!
Fandros
09-24-2009, 04:03 PM
That moron faked it and wasn't found hanging with FED written on her. Big difference.
Regardless of what the circumstances of this murder, the current "how close to exploding" climate of our country is pretty close to "EXPLODE"
Thankfully Fox news is telling people what they need to know!!!!
You really need to stop mainlining what you're told to think. I've yet to go out in public and see seething masses ready to riot.
Stop to hope this is Iran, now there's a place about ready to 'splode.
Bylimet Spiritwalker
09-24-2009, 06:17 PM
There are far more reasons for violence than political parties. Maybe he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and seen something that someone didn't want seen?
Moonshiners, pot growers, some other crime taking place and the worker happened to be witness to it, etc. Could be a number of explanations other than a Michelle Bachman supporter.
(BTW, I recall a movie that I think was a Jack Lemmon vehicle regarding a census taker being held captive by a family in the hills, and he and one of the daughters ended up together.)
Rover
09-25-2009, 09:43 PM
Here is a new update...
Not looking to good for the followers of Michelle Bachmann
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/bill-sparkman-found-naked_n_300659.html
Chanur
09-26-2009, 04:57 PM
Even if this is some wing nut follower of hers or hard right republicans. It is not representative of the party as a whole. No one in their right mind would advocate murder.
Rover
09-26-2009, 07:40 PM
Michelle Bachmann in a speech - "We need to become armed and dangerous" - "having a revolution every now and then is a good thing."
Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) encouraging people to go to town hall meetings armed with a gun.
Those are just two of many examples. Now, we could say that they are not advocating murder. But to encourage people to arm themselves, to carry guns into what is supposed to be a forum for discussion is completely without question irresponsible to say the least.
The problem is the party as a whole, at least the part I think you're speaking of, does nothing to admonish people who do this. They actually defend it saying it is "free speech" never call it irresponsible or inappropriate, they just stand by and watch.
Well now there is probably a good chance that the first casualty of this rhetoric has happened. Where to go from here? Surely not the way of a Milosivic I hope.
Chanur
09-26-2009, 09:40 PM
Once again...no one in their right mind.
Rover
09-26-2009, 10:21 PM
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Cados Evilsbane
09-26-2009, 11:50 PM
Those backwoods types can be pretty messed up (not generally speaking, but often the fringes of society seek isolation, like the unabomber for example). The census worker was working in a rural area, and had even been warned multiple times by the police officer at the school he worked at to be extra careful while working in that particular county, as said in an AP article, because they tend to view any kind of government worker in the wrong light.
What happened is sick, and it's a shame that the victim wasn't (as far as I know) a concealed weapon carrier so that he could have possibly defended himself better, although it is still unclear how he might have been incapacitated in the first place.
However, suggesting that this occurrence is representative in any large degree of right-wing sentiment towards the government is silly, especially given the current lack of information. As far as I'm concerned, this is a case of a very disturbed person who went off the edge and deserves to be severely punished.
zornhedEL
09-30-2009, 08:20 PM
10 bucks says he accidently came across somebody's meth lab or pot farm.
Malse
09-30-2009, 08:29 PM
Entirely possible but if so, they were pretty stupid to call attention to themselves by writing an inciting message on his corpse after placing it someplace intending it to be found. Normally you bribe the Federales.
Rover
09-30-2009, 08:55 PM
10 bucks says he accidently came across somebody's meth lab or pot farm.
Actually that particular area he was working has few if any Meth labs or weed patches.
Kelraz Bladesinger
11-25-2009, 07:26 AM
As an update, this was actually a suicide.
Lleauric
11-27-2009, 08:00 AM
Maybe he got an advance copy of Palin's book. I'd want to kill myself too if I was forced to read that.
Sixee
12-01-2009, 12:30 PM
Wow, amazing. And so many people on this board were so sure that this was a red/blue state issue, that they failed to take onto consideration that there are other issues more important in some people's lives.
Not that I would expect any form of "whoops, looks like I was wrong on this" from the usual suspects.
Granted, the person making the most noise, has been banned, but L2's comment seems to sum it up.
Lleauric
12-01-2009, 02:06 PM
If it makes you feel better. Yeah.. I was wrong.
But its not as if anyone took some wild leap of speculation. All any of us (except right wing pundits) have to work with is the facts as they are available. Given what we had, it was a more than reasonable assumption.
Its okay to make reasonable assumptions. If we couldnt we would be paralyzed by infinite probability.
Sixee
12-01-2009, 06:07 PM
Given what we had, it was a more than reasonable assumption.
Its okay to make reasonable assumptions. If we couldnt we would be paralyzed by infinite probability.
Makes you wonder who released the "facts" that the area that which he was working in was considered a "red" area, instead of that he had been depressed, and considering taking his own life.
I'm sure the editor who ran this story could literally see the circulation increase.
Story about a depressed man committing suicide = ho hum.
Story about a government worker being killed by right-wing extremists = teh win.
Malse
12-01-2009, 06:29 PM
It didn't take much editorial sensationalism to make a story about a man found hanged with FED written on him sound politically motivated, given that's what the suicide had in mind when he came up with that plan to get insurance payouts. Of course, if you want to have a discussion about "waiting for the exhaustive investigation" there was always that Fort Hood thread ...
Sanchek
12-01-2009, 07:00 PM
Especially considering the climate at the time, I think it's understandable to at least entertain the notion of him having been teabagged or hillbilly'd. No need to told-ya-so, I don't think.
It is nice to know it wasn't politically motivated extremism though. I was concerned with how quickly the potential for that was escalating a couple months ago.
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