Wife, Kid and him found dead.

No detailed release but the rumor mill is saying many things

It seems quite surreal. He was in the Denny's that a lot of my friends work at just a month ago. He was real nice and took pictures and signed autographs for the staff.

I shall show my ignorance and ask... who is he?

some wrestler guy .... heard about it in guild chat last night read article this morning apparant murder suicide. no clue what really happened.

Chris Benoit was the Canadian Cripple, the Rabid Wolverine!!!!! He was just a long term wrestler with very little schtick, but he was likable and very talented.

I wonder if its appropriate that the WWE did a 3 hour special memorial for him, after he apparently killed his 7 year old son, then his wife before himself...

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitupdate :(
I do not understand how a man could ever kill a 7 year old child...just boggles me. I hope the boy never knew what hit him. That man must have been one BIG sicko. :(

I wonder if its appropriate that the WWE did a 3 hour special memorial for him, after he apparently killed his 7 year old son, then his wife before himself...

They didnt know what had happened.

I do not understand how a man could ever kill a 7 year old child...just boggles me. I hope the boy never knew what hit him. That man must have been one BIG sicko.

Sicko or a man driven mad by an industry that forces steroid use and creates people who can do very little else in life. Not saying what he did was right, but dont be so quick to villify a man who has done a lot of good too.

Holy hell what a mess. :( I'm glad I didn't know who he was.

Sicko or a man driven mad by an industry that forces steroid use and creates people who can do very little else in life. Not saying what he did was right, but dont be so quick to villify a man who has done a lot of good too.Out of curiousity, what good did he do? Charities? Inventor of Benoit Balls?

Sicko or a man driven mad by an industry that forces steroid use and creates people who can do very little else in life. Not saying what he did was right, but dont be so quick to villify a man who has done a lot of good too.

Care to cite something showing mandatory steroid use? And poor, poor Chris Benoit. Millionaire who has to fake beat the shit out of people for a living.

Personal Responsibility what? The industry 'creates people who can do very little else in life'. They are paid millions of dollars to entertain people. It's not like this is a fall back job, this guy made more money than any of us posting on this board. All of these morons write books and movies and make even more money that way.

If this was Dwayne Johnson, what would you be saying? I'm sure he cannot do much else in life. Also, what the hell good has Chris Benoit done?

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/wrestler-benoit-family-dead/20070626091709990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

ATLANTA (June 26) - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son. Steroid abuse has been linked to depression, paranoia, and aggressive behavior or angry outbursts known as "roid rage."

The only good he did that i know of, is that he helped alot of the young up and coming wrestlers. Gave them advice and was just someone they looked up to. Thats about it

This focus on the steroid angle is nothing more than a reinforcement of our puritanical OMG DRUGS R BAD!!11 mindset that has dominated our country for the past century or so.

Criminally, steroid use is irrelevant. Perhaps some whack judge would use it as a mitigating factor to avoid the death penalty, but other than that both mens rea and actus rea are present here and you can't argue diminished capacity. Did he put the steroids in his body (assuming he was using)? Yes. Why then, is the steroid use an issue? Can you actually prove motive posthumously? Is anything to be gained from this other than more of those dumbass steroid commercials filled with innuendo about 'shrinking balls' and what not?

I get drunk and sometimes I do stupid things. I am responsible for these actions, however. It'd be nice if we could read a story that just said 'Piece of shit kills family, self. Current residence: Hell.'

Instead we get this politcally charged garbage about steroids, how they might have been a factor (Obviously a mitigating one, which is pathetic), and how it has been linked to all sorts of other nonsensical 'mental disorders'.

And just another thing, they are going to send for tests and get them back in a couple of weeks. Tests for what? Steroids, I'm assuming. Does the presence of steroids establish causation between use and the murder/suicide?

From the quotes with the investigator, it seems that if he does come back positive they are going to attribute this crime to his use. Silly policemen.

As far as good, I lived in Atlanta, GA for a while. He came to the boys and girls club i volunteered at, REGULARLY and talked to the kids about sports and staying in school. Also, he has demanded to go to all the "USO" WWE events in Iraq because he supports the troops.

As far a "mandatory steroid use" find me the scrawny wreslter who is popular. Find me a nonbuild football player, baseball player, NBA player, NHL player. They all use steroids or derivatives of them because they HAVE TO to be able to perform in their job.

In response to Ainwein. Buff Bagwell a VERY popular wrestler in the late 90's ended up breaking his neck. His whole life was wrestling, he interviewed on a radio program in florida here, that he cant even get a job at Home Depot cause his whole resume is "Performer for WWE".

Dwayne Johnson aka the Rock, has the privledge of being college educated, and good looking, so he could do movies.

You are also confusing what I am saying. Personal responsibility, sure, but take a further look into what brought the man where he was.

I understand that line of thinking, but it holds no weight, at least to me.

At some point he was presented an opportunity. Join WWF and have a chance to make tons of money and be famous. He decided to it.

At some point, he decided that he needed to take steroids to perform his job well.

At some point, he decided that he wanted to kill his wife, son, and himself.

Would he have not killed his family if he had not joined WWF? Perhaps, but it's pointless to speculate on.

What is the point of laying out this path of events that culminated in this double murder/suicide though, if not to attempt to mitigate the act? Is life nothing more than series of events? He made decisions that resulted in his downfall. It happens to lots of people, but because this man was famous and there was a possibility of drug abuse, everyone is so quick to attribute this act to that. Humans always have to place the blame somewhere, and drugs seem to be the pharamkos of this generation.

I don't think anymore forced him to do steroids? It was his choice to use them regardless of the reasons it was a personal choice. He killed his own wife and child I don't care if he did drugs b/c he felt he needed an edge or whatever he still killed innocent people b/c he made those choices.

And just another thing, they are going to send for tests and get them back in a couple of weeks. Tests for what? Steroids, I'm assuming. Does the presence of steroids establish causation between use and the murder/suicide?

From the quotes with the investigator, it seems that if he does come back positive they are going to attribute this crime to his use. Silly policemen.

Its much like with the anti depressant drugs causing kids/adults to comitt suicide. Are they not already depressed? Steriods are known ..and this is fact...to cause depression at times. Its a roller coaster drug with emotions and it possibly had some effect on what he was thinking at the time. Would he of killed his wife and kid in the same situation (unhappy marriage) with out the abuse/use of roids? Possibly as well.

The guy who killed 6 people and then himself a couple weeks ago about 40 miles from my house wasn't taking steriods..he was just nuts.

Well, what is depression?

Does the presence of steroids establish causation between use and the murder/suicide?

Most of us can't imagine killing a 7 year old boy. It just is something we will never do nor think of doing so when it does happen I believe we try to find some solice by coming up with a reason how someone else could do that other than he was just pure evil.

Drugs can cause you to do things you would not normally do but I have never heard of someone who has not been educated on the risks of taking drugs are. If they do not believe what they are told and/or willing to take the risk of the effects happening to them....then their actions do in fact become something they are totally responsible for IMHO.

Just because they have never experienced the side effects, it does not mean it can't happen to them and if they are dumb enough to believe that it will not happen to them......well then the jail bars is a good venue of scenery for them.

I do not care how much good that man did. If he wanted to die..okay..kill yourself, I could then have sympathy and sorrow for the man because I would feel he was tortured inside.......but he killed anything good when he took the life of a child so coldly...plain and simple.

i hate the media, there is news sources saying.

The wife killed the son. Calls Benoit, he comes home kills his wife out of rage, then kills himself. But then other sources saying double murder suicide over the course of three days.....

I'm glad he didn't use a gun. Sad anyway.

If this was a poor black man, would there be any of these alternative theories being tossed around about the mother killing the child first and yada yada? :rolleyes:

Greystone and I agree wholeheartedly in our disgust with the media.

Those folks will play fast and loose with any and all theories to boost circulation/advertising dollars, without regard for any impact their stories might have.

If this was a poor black man, would there be any of these alternative theories being tossed around about the mother killing the child first and yada yada? :rolleyes:

If we didnt have people throwing race into the picture when they could, even though it had no basis on the conversation, would there be less racism?

Um, is this not a completely valid point?

I've read pages and pages of shit on here, Fark, and SA about this. One thing I continually notice is that Wrestling fans cannot let go of this guy. I've read so many dumb bullshit theories about how the wife did it, or it couldn't have been him yada yada. Apparently Chris Benoit was so good at choking people that there is no way he could have done it!

Read your first couple of posts. You immediately began talking about the good things that he had done. Don't be so quick to villify a man who just murdered his family? Take into consideration his steroid use? Um, no.

I used to watch wrestling too. I didn't think people were still this crazy about it.

How about this. If this was a poor ANYBODY, or how about just someone who didn't beat people for a living, would people even bother searching for any good that he had done prior, or any possible alternative explanation, as far-fetched as it may be? No.

No, race has nothing to do with it. Yes because of his celebrity status people disbelieve and defend, welcome to the world of idols. Look how many people defended Michael Jackson, doest it make it right of course not. We all know it happens daily, PAris Hilton in jail and so on.

I cited his "good deeds" because how quickly people forget the good when bad happens. Yes he is a damn dirty fucking child killer who will burn in hell, but of his years on earth he did a lot more good than bad.

I don't think anyone has cited a single good thing he's done yet in this thread. Maybe I'm missing something.

Maybe I'm missing something

read my post earlier, he is no charitable god, but he probably has done more than the people on this board.

I don't think anyone has cited a single good thing he's done yet in this thread. Maybe I'm missing something.

I guess this is what some might consider a "good" thing.

http://forums.ayonae.ro/showpost.php?p=123926&postcount=16

The thing I find most disturbing is how I'm hearing reports about the kid. He had shot marks on him and rumor had it his parents were injecting him with growth hormone b/c they thought he was too small. That is effed up. Other interesting things are how he told people his wife and son were ill and how he sent text messages to friends and co-workers that evening which is being touted as him trying to make sure bodies were found.

I don't think roids did this; I think he just snapped and realized it and offed himself. Supposedly these events occurred over the weekend, it seems to me in my limited armchair knowledge that if it were a rage it would have happened much faster and without the other oddbits of notifying people in between.

Sick, demented fuck who killed his wife and kid.

Oh well shit, compared to that I'm the Dalai Lama. Paris Hilton donated all of the proceeds to her sex tape to charity and is gonna - maybe we should give her the Nobel Peace Prize?

In my view, killing your own child is the most serious lapse of humanity possible, period. It is worse than mass murder, genocide or any of the other terrible things happening around the world right now.

Coverage today seems to be focued on federal agents raiding a WWE doctor's office, looking for the dreaded steroids!

That didn't take long.

Oh noz!!

Whoa... now this sounds very fishy.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/28/wrestler.ap/index.html



ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit's Wikipedia entry to mention his wife's death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.

Benoit's Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife's death.

A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Connecticut, where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.

An IP address, a unique series of numbers carried by every machine connected to the Internet, does not necessarily have to be broadcast from where it is registered. The bodies were found in Benoit's home in suburban Atlanta, Georgia, and it's not known where the posting was sent from, Bass said.

Benoit strangled his wife and son during the weekend, placing Bibles next to their bodies, before hanging himself on the cable of a weight-machine in his home, authorities said. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.

Yeah, the wikipedia update about his wife being dead was posted more than 14 hours BEFORE the cops found the bodies. Very very fishy.

that seems like a hose job.....snopes worthy

I listened to an interview with a Wiki Employee and he confirmed that it did happen.

Yeah, the wikipedia update about his wife being dead was posted more than 14 hours BEFORE the cops found the bodies. Very very fishy.

Could it be that someone killed him and his family and made it look like he did it? oh man.....if so ....I hope they get that guy.

His mother was quoted on television today, saying that if Federal Agents would have discovered his stash earlier, this wouldn't have happened.

I forgive her for this nonsense - she is going through a lot and it is entirely understandable as a coping device. What is sad is that much of the coverage seems to be furthering this view as well.

What's weak is that anyone at all is trying to blame this on steroids. If it was "roid rage," than he would have killed his wife and kid at the same time, not several hours to a day apart. I can see that maybe he killed his wife in a rage, but not his child. The timing doesn't work out for this to simply be "roid rage."

It's just sad that there has to be some sort of scapegoat in everything horrible that happens anymore.

all i want to know is the truth behind the Wiki conspiracy.

I am very interested in that as well.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_mystery_editor_confesses:_Claims_%22t errible_coincidence%22

The anonymous individual responsible for suggesting, 14 hours before police discovered the body, that WWE wrestler Chris Benoit's wife was dead is saying his/her comment was a "terrible coincidence."
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Chris Benoit mystery editor confesses: claims "terrible coincidence"
I feel incredibly bad for all the attention this got because of the fact that what I said turned out to be the truth. Like I said it was just a major coincidence, and I will never vandalize anything on wikipedia or post wrongful information. I've learned from this experience. I just can't believe what I wrote was actually the case, I've remained stunned and saddened over it....

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Chris Benoit mystery editor confesses: claims "terrible coincidence"

—Continued »

In a post made at 12:26 AM EDT Friday morning to the talk page of a Wikinews article headlined as the "Death of Nancy Benoit rumour posted on Wikipedia hours prior to body being found", the user admitted to writing that Nancy Benoit was dead at the Wikipedia article page for Benoit came from information that was garnered from "rumors and speculation online."

The IP Address of the individual making the apology was identical to that of the one who posted the Nancy Benoit rumor, a strong confirmation of the admission's authenticity. The lengthy apology was not signed, with the individual claiming, "I am just an everyday individual who posted a wrongful remark at the time that received so much attention because it turned out to actually happen."

Wikinews originally broke the story about the suspicious edit after receiving a tip from Wikipedia administrators. The fact the edit originated from a computer in Stamford, Connecticut (the site of WWE headquarters) appears to be another coincidence.

The anonymous editor left a lengthy apology to the Wikimedia community, explaining, "I hope this puts an end to this speculation that someone knew about the tragedy before it was discovered."

Wikinews is continuing to follow the story, but the anonymous user has declined an interview.

Below is the full, unedited apology:
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Chris Benoit mystery editor confesses: claims "terrible coincidence"


Hey everyone. I am here to talk about the wikipedia comment that was left by myself. I just want to say that it was an incredible coincidence. Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this, and I was just as shocked as everyone when I heard that this actually would happen in real life. It is one of those things that just turned into a huge coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this. I just want everyone to know it was stupid of me, and I will never do anything like this again. I just posted something that was at that time a piece of wrong unsourced information that is typical on wikipedia, as it is done all the time.

Nonetheless, I feel incredibly bad for all the attention this got because of the fact that what I said turned out to be the truth. Like I said it was just a major coincidence, and I will never vandalize anything on wikipedia or post wrongful information.

Yeah, I've seen all that too, though I find it a huge coincidence that said person has an IP from the town where WWE is headquartered.

It was probably Andre' the Giant or that ebil Jake the snake Roberts!!! mark my words!