Post here if I hosed your betting results, or if your team bit it and you feel the need to tell me I suck ;)

So, ummm, what happens when we run out of vCash?

The rest of you get to flex our betting prowess and laugh at you? :p


j/k

I'm sure if it becomes a widespread issue, we'll work something out. Giving it out on whims would encourage folks to bet everything on anything and just shrug if they lose ;)

Maybe set up a donation for operating costs for the boards and in return more vcash to bet with? (jsut a thought) :)

Or perhaps a timetable for competition.

Every <insert time period here> everyone is given X vCash. At the end of that time the person with the most vCash is idolized for a day. Beginning the next day everyone's vCash is reset to 500 and it starts all over.

Maybe?

I don't like the idea of just giving vCash back out. But eventually the majority of people will lose their 500.

But eventually the majority of people will lose their 500.

After last night, I tend to agree with you :p

I would hope we wouldnt do a wipe and reset, but add to everyone. So those that get ahead can keep there vvc

Fix the wagers, please (j/k). I lost last night, 'cause Brooks kept dropping the ball or was suffering from Culpepperitis.

Yeah, I don't foresee any across the board wipes. That would defeat the whole idea.

I'm open to suggestions for re-funding accounts. I think we should avoid anything to do with real money though.

I would hope we wouldnt do a wipe and reset, but add to everyone. So those that get ahead can keep there vvc

This has some potential.

I think we should avoid anything to do with real money though.

Agree. I for one would not pay for vCash and I really don't forsee anyone else paying either. I can only imagine there would be some legal considerations with real money as well.

Well... what Blearch was talking about was setting it up as a "reward" for donating, just like a lot of those comic sites give you a special "donator only" wallpaper when you donate. But I agree, keep real money out of it.

I'd say I like the "add to everyone" idea better. Instead of wiping everyone and setting everyone back to base, maybe once per month (or once per week during football season ; p ) give everyone 100 vCash accross the board.

Or (don't know if this is possible the way it is currently set up) cap the "refresh" VCash at 500. So... if you have 0, you get 100. If you have 450, you get 50... If you already have over 500, you stay at what you're at. This solves 2 problems. It helps out the people who have lost it all and want a chance to catch up with the leaders some day, and it prevents people who don't play / are away for a long time from accruing huge stockpiles of vCash.

Or (don't know if this is possible the way it is currently set up) cap the "refresh" VCash at 500. So... if you have 0, you get 100. If you have 450, you get 50... If you already have over 500, you stay at what you're at. This solves 2 problems. It helps out the people who have lost it all and want a chance to catch up with the leaders some day, and it prevents people who don't play / are away for a long time from accruing huge stockpiles of vCash.


I like that idea the best if it's possible. It certainly sounds the most errr fair.

Well... what Blearch was talking about was setting it up as a "reward" for donating, just like a lot of those comic sites give you a special "donator only" wallpaper when you donate. But I agree, keep real money out of it.
No matter how you word it, trading real cash for fake currency used in sports betting is asking for lots of legal trouble.

I can increment peoples' balances across the board pretty easily, but that would take all the risk out of it. I don't think it would be that much fun in the long run, if you always had that saftey net. There needs to be something more to the re-funding.

What about making the refunding amount smaller? Everyone started with 500, make the refunding like 50 every month or two. There would be risk, there would be reward, and if you sqwander it it will take a while to get it back.

You could just add 50 accross the board. That way people aren't penalized for being conservative in their wagers? And you can say for a fact that if you have 7000 vCash and someone else has 10k you can acurately compare apples to apples, in that everyone got the same incremental increases/refundings.

And if you didn't want people who have been away for a while to get massive build ups of vCash you could have something like a dormate account fee, where they would loose a certain amount of vCash every month or so they didn't log on/in, or make a bet. I don't know if the system has that capacity, but just an idea.

How about some vCash for user referral scheme?

Yeah if you are going to add vcash You have to do the same amount for everyone not a base by base situations.. dont Penalize me for being smart with my vcash!

Sometimes even being "smart" with your cash can lead to major losses in sports betting, since there are so many variables. Sure, betting your whole load on one game is probably not "smart", but on the other hand you can try to play it smart, bet small on your sure things... and still end up just as broke.

Everyone was "given" 500 to start with. Any new people to the forums are effectivly at 0. When they creat their new accounts they will be "given" 500 cash. Now, 500 seems like a lot right now, because this thing is just getting started. But when the leader is at 10,000, its going to seem pretty hopeless for the guy at 500.

Another problem with giving EVERYONE increases, is that it will introduce money into the system too quickly, and will force a reset sooner. You'll get to the point where half of the people have massive banks of vCash, and the rest will have a snowball's chance in hell of ever being able to catch up. Money needs to keep coming in, but not at so high a rate that it forces you to have to come in and balance everything eventually.

I'm assuming that resets will most likely be inevitable... to keep it exciting for new people. Look at it this way: Money coming into the system slower = longer reset intervals. So if you're on top, you get to reign for a longer period of time.

A lot of games allow the underdog to "refresh" their money. As long as anyone can do it, its fair. Pokerstars.net, for instance. If you go under 1000 chips, you can refresh (once per hour?) Your chips back up to 1000. This is no threat to the guys who have 100,000+ chips, so no foul. They don't have to do "resets" because they have other systems in place to keep the playing fields fair. They have different levels of betting at different tables.

Anyway... thats just my idea. You don't even have to have it refresh back to 500. Have it so that it will only refresh you if you're below 100 and only to 100. Then you have enough chips to play around with, and if you play smart you might be able to earn your way back up. But later in the game, 100 cash will be nothing in comparison to the top guys.

trading real cash for fake currency used in sports betting is asking for lots of legal trouble.


*nod* I didn't think of that, but I am sure someone could cry it was a loophole to run a betting site even though we're doing it for fun.

Right now I don't see an issue. We'll worry about it if it becomes something common. Just play it now like that is all you are going to get. To me, that makes it more fun ;)

I suggest that if you allow resets only...say, once a month, or so, and to something below the default starting vCash, so we can all know you're a loser :)

Ok I'm a little confused I have $75 left? I bet in small increments and on Friday I had $350 left. On the NFL lines I bet a total of $75, 2 of my bets settled and I won and one I lost. Yet my amount doesn't reflect this, uhhh can someone explain?

/looks at Shamzy's vCash.
/chuckles



; )

/looks at Shamzy's vCash.
/chuckles
; )

Hey, mine is 0 too. I just need some wagers to be settled then, I won't be showing that big ole goose egg.

So here's a screen shot of all my bets. All of my bets that I have placed add up to $126. So /boggle how does this thing work? Not like this is a *huge* deal, I'm curious if I'm just missing something. :o

Eww sorry for the formatting :(


/sigh

I might have messed yours up when I was manually correcting that Iowa St vs Army bet that didn't go through automatically.

ahh well that would make sense b/c I didn't see that listed in my bet history. And that's the one I goofed on by betting 2x some how lol.

What should your total be? And get rid of that huge screenshot, for the love of god.

So Sanchek are you going to have to manually adjust everyone from here on out? Seems like a lot of work. My total wasn't settled yet either. Was wondering when that will happen.

As far as I know, only that one event needs manually adjusted. The rest should calculate correctly based on the adjusted totals.

My total wasn't settled yet either.

The only ones unsettled are the college games from this weekend since LSU/TN got moved to tonight, The Nascar one, and the playoffs one (which will settle this weekend).

Sorry for the delay on the LSU game, but since it is part of the event, I can't settle the rest till it is complete as well. :(

I sent you a PM Sanchek on what I *think* my total should be.

Minus six zeros.

My Vcash is correct.

My vCash is correct as far as I can tell. I was wondering if there is a way to tell what games I have bet on after they have been played... or did I miss the memo on that one?

Thanks for the fun!

http://forums.ayonae.ro/vbookie.php?do=bets

Thanks... guess I did miss the memo.

This betting thing is the most fun I have had this year with football. My fantasy team sucks. My Saints suck.... this it great :)

Piggyback on what Bise said.....this betting has really made the season more enjoyable.

Thanks Blearchie for initiating this.

So says the two people with over 5000 vCash combined!!

But really, great job and effort Blearch. This has given me yet another thing to waste time on at work. :D

Uhhhh my vcash is wrong, seems I bet till I lost it all...and errr I'm now broke!! ;P


Fandros

Bise, when have the Saints not suck??

**and did i break even? because that's what i had last week :p

WTS VCash 500vv for $100us :devil

Long as I get my 5%.

Must stay ahead of Nekko...

Must stay ahead of Nekko...Don't make me bet big :)

Thanks Blearchie for initiating this.

It was all Sanchek's idea and his getting vbookie running. I just lucked out on getting to moddy some :)

Don't make me bet big :)

I ain't scared!! :eek:

Well, I got about 2k riding on the weekend, so... ..we'll see how badly the NFL bones me this week.

It was all Sanchek's idea and his getting vbookie running. I just lucked out on getting to moddy some :)
I might've got it started, but there's no way it would've worked out this well without all the time you've put into it since then. I couldn't be more happy with how it's turned out. You da man.

I might've got it started, but there's no way it would've worked out this well without all the time you've put into it since then. I couldn't be more happy with how it's turned out. You da man.

I second that.

A couple of heartbreaks the last week or two for me. [And everyone else, I guess..] Shorty still owns me.

A couple of heartbreaks the last week or two for me. [And everyone else, I guess..]

For alot of us I would guess. There have been a few games that have had me scratching my head going wtf??

9/2 games


Florida vs S miss.

velvetsilence 200
Shortyrez Starfury 150

I screwed up settling. Messaged check to see about adjusting it for you two.

Sorry about that :(

Thank's man and never try to pull a fast one on a Gator =P

Also messaged to get Anguish bumped up 250 more in vcash due to my mistake in the odds on the AU vs UF game of the week.

WTF with the wipe? so much for my hard earned capital and positioning to take a run at Shorty next year!!
If this was discussed and agreed upon and I missed it please disregard. If it wasnt, that blows!

We talked about it in a thread awhile back. The season will run through the Super Bowl each year.

LOL is ok, I finally had a good year and damn. i'm fully aware of how much this is just for fun.
Good news is! Shorty your mine!!

would there be any interest in setting up bets for champions league/UEFA cup matches? yes, its football.

That should read "soccer".

I won't be going through European odds makers to add soccer/football lines. Sorry, most of the board is American, and I would be willing to bet the betting action on soccer matches would be low enough to not warrant my time looking up foreign odds.

I have a concern to bring up, you keep taking vcash form me when I lose. Please address this disasterous miscalculation!

Mr. President