Wow didn't expect to see that type of domination over Michigan. Makes Sunday pretty irrelevant.

Haha.

This is one time the BCS worked. The only fucking reason Oklahoma isn't consensus number one is a loss to Kansas State, who are much, much higher ranked than Cal, who beat USC.

Without the BCS, the fucking sportswriters would pick Northern Illinois or something.

Fuck off Beo, USC owns, even though they didn't let me in their school. But I got even and broke a tree there when I got drunk.

I was at the Oregon Michigan game... Michigan = Noob. Pac 10 is always under rated

Lol,the pac-10 under rated?

They got voted #1 when the ONLY top 25 team they played this year was Michigan,and their sorry ass still lost a game.

Wrong!! Xyln


They pounded Washington State who was 15 and just beat #5 Texas.

Beo sucks!



dude your totally wrong on this one....

Oklahoma deserves at best to *share the title*

IF they beat LSU.....my money says they lose that game...


we shall see

Wrong!! Xyln


They pounded Washington State who was 15 and just beat #5 Texas.



Oh yeah,forgot about that powerhouse WSU .

The system is screwed up,plain and simple.

I would love to see ,a least, a 4 team playoff system to end all this crap.

100% agree with you there Xyln!!!

omg Selan!


This is one time the BCS did work, because without it, the goddamn sportswriters would have stuck Oklahoma at 3 or 4, based on the loss to Kansas State, but ALL of the teams took losses, and Oklahoma lost to the best team.

Right now its fashionable to hate the BCS because of the perceived confusion it caused, but thats only because the computer doesnt take into account "momentum" or "perceived amount of whipping" that the sportswriters use. I know the BCS has screwed up, but this is not one of those times. Anyway, its really the only viable solution, because there are way too many teams to do an NFL style playoff. If you were to take the top 2 out of each conference, thats still 40ish teams.

This discussion is all academic anyway, because Stoops and Carroll really have no interest in a direct playoff for the undisputed national champion.


Go Buckeyes though! /nod.

Take the C out of BCS....

If your #1 on the AP poll you are #1...

If the coaches weren't forced to vote the winner of the Sugar #1 then USC would easily be the unanomous choice...

Lets not forget Oklahoma didn't just lose...the got spanked..

Anyway Beo...as usual I Love to talk to the sports with ya, even if you are a lamer Braves fan..

Don't you owe me a 12 pack still? I expect to see it FED EX'd tommorow!

the issue about a college playoff in football has never been about the number of teams...

The collective whole of administrations around the country are totally against the playoff system for several reasons...

There main argument centers around the issue of academics and they suggest that a playoff system would detract from the students main priority which is school...

Coming in a very close second is the financial side...estimates suggest a playoff type system in football would allow the elite schools to monopolize the cash and everyone else would lose millions...

even if you are a lamer Braves fan

My team post-firesale will own your team post-firesale.

The thing that amazes me is everyone running around..."If the coaches weren't forced to vote....they would pick USC"

....and LSU hasn't even played yet. Their only loss was to a Top 20 team. Its not like they lost to California or something. Even Oklahoma ( whom I hate ) deserves more than what the AP poll is giving them.

The fact of the matter is there are 3 very good teams in college football at the moment that are just a tad above the rest. Two of those teams are going to play. There are problems with the computer, true. But the major problem with the humans is that the further back in time a loss happens, the more forgiving the voters become.

The only reason USC is number one in the AP poll is because they lost first.

Fil

My team post-firesale will own your team post-firesale.

This sucks! No Maddux. No Lopez. No Sheffield. This sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks!

Oh well at least we still have the Jones boys, Furcal, Giles and DeRosa, even if our pitching is in a sad state.. *Sigh* Just wont be the same without Maddux... Hes been a Brave so long its like losing a member of my family. They should have offered him SOMETHING... damn you Schuerholz...

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

maddux should of retired as a brave...

even though i hate the braves

Their only loss was to a Top 20 team.

LSU lost, at LSU, to a very bad Florida team. Did you see Florida's bowl game? And this is the team that dominated LSU at home? Did you see Florida play Tennessee who lost to Clemson? UGA barely squeaked out a win in their bowl game. Face it, the SEC (at least the top 4 SEC schools) were not that good this year.

Did you see who brought the crystal football home? LOLZ!11!!!!!111.

TIGAH BAIT!

USC manages to hold Michigan to 320 yards and its domination.

LSU holds the top producing offense in the country to 154 yards and they "aren't that good".

Ok!

And whatever about Florida, you and I both know that Florida is a better team than California any day of the week.

I hope they never change the system, split championships are too much fun.

Too bad we won't see a USC-LSU game. That would have been a great one.

Fil

There main argument centers around the issue of academics and they suggest that a playoff system would detract from the students main priority which is school...

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA.

Take the C out of BCS....

If your #1 on the AP poll you are #1...

If the coaches weren't forced to vote the winner of the Sugar #1 then USC would easily be the unanomous choice...



If USC felt this way,then why were they such big players in the installation of the BCS?

USC not only agreed,but were very active in the installation,to the BCS,and now they cry like a pussy when it didn't work in their favor.

You think the BCS was some black-op program made up by scientist at area-51,unbeknownst to the world?

Hell no,it was a program ALL of the top schools in America came up with(/gasp including those pussies from southern cal)to choose a National Champion.

Now,quit crying and live with it.

Hell no,it was a program ALL of the top schools in America came up with(/gasp including those pussies from southern cal)to choose a National Champion.


Wrong. Try again. The BCS was the brain child of the ex-SEC commissioner (Roy Kramer) as a marketing ploy to try and wring more dollars out of TV Networks. Kramer was shitty as a person but as a businessman he was very shrewd (look at SEC revenues under his tenure).

The BCS does not determine the national champion (as seen by this year's result) and the ESPN/Coaches poll did not have to agree to vote the winner of the BCS game as #1 (although they did so). The AP did not agree to it and hence you can have 2 different teams as #1 in the currently recognized national polls.

Hell, I just noticed that 3 coaches broke their agreement and voted USC National Champs ANYWAY. Imagine if enough coaches had broken ranks and voted USC #1 in their poll. Heh.

I would love to see ,a least, a 4 team playoff system to end all this crap.


I'd like to see a 32 team playoff personally.

Use the AP and computer to figure out the 32 and go from there. You would actually see the real best teams win, not some poll favorite. Does the number one ranked basketball team take home the national championship every year?

It really wouldn't take that long, and the suggestion that schools would lose money is laughable at best. After all, if playoffs like this don't work for colleges, why have they been doing it with basketball for so many years?

Basketball teams can play a game everyday, or several in a day, Football teams play 1 game a week =\

It would only take a month, just as basketball playoffs take a month.

A 32 team playoff would trivialize the regular season (much as it does with basketball). No one would give a shit until "December Madness." I like the fact that a single loss will effect your chances at a NC. With the playoff, you could have the situation the NFL faced several years ago where a bad New England Patriots team (unlike this year) managed to win the Super Bowl. With 32 team playoff, you could potentially have a 4 loss team win the NC over a 1 loss team (with that one loss being in the final game due to a bad call/injury/off game/whatever).

Hell, I just noticed that 3 coaches broke their agreement and voted USC National Champs ANYWAY. Imagine if enough coaches had broken ranks and voted USC #1 in their poll. Heh.

And 17 AP writers voted LSU #1. Your loyalty is admirable, your arguments weak.

And deny as much as you want, but the BCS was put in place as an agreement between 4 bowl games and the 6 major conferences to come to some form of agreement as to the top 2 teams so they could face each other and stop having #1 teams play #4 teams while #2 and #3 squared off because of regional tie ins to bowl games. It didn't work this year. But the Pac-10 was one of those conferences, and the Rose Bowl recognizes that this year's championship game was played in New Orleans.

I agree with the AP poll in that LSU should have faced USC ( how Oklahoma's SoS was so high or why Texas rated high enough to be a quality win escapes me ). But as much as you run around shouting USC is the number 1 team, you know that truthfully USC didn't face either of the other top 2 teams and got the 4th or 5th best team at best, and the best you can ever say is, "It would have been great".

USC lost to the weakest team of anyone else, and all those 3 votes do is prove Pete Carroll has 2 good friends. Congrats on sharing the title. You want a travesty? Go back to '64 and look at how things were done. Yea, the AP was a winner that year.

And as for playoffs, there are like 300ish Division 1 basketball programs and 109 football programs. No way would you need a 32 team playoff, rarely have I ever seen more than 4 deserving teams. And some years not even that many. Anyone here seriously think that Michigan deserved a shot a national title?

Fil