I live in Chicago, I am watching the 6th game last night and a fan goes after a ball that is in foul territory. I also see a lot of other people going for the ball. The fan touches the ball that Mousies Alou could have caught. My opinion, it's a foul ball, get over it. Then a walk, a solid single by IRod and a routine ground ball that should have been a double play. Oh ya, the double play would have ended the inning with only 1 run that would have scored. The ball is booted and the flood gates open. Not to mention that Mark Prior's curve ball went flat and the great Field Manager (Sarcasm) Dusty Baker, leaves his young stud in for too long.

My analysis is if you want to blame a fan in the stands for that 8th inning then you are an idiot and not putting blame where blame is due. Also, there is another game today, Kerrie Wood is one of the best pitchers in the game and the Cubs still have a great chance to goto the World Series.

I haven't checked the odds for tonights game but I would imagine that the Cubs are the favorite to win tonights game. So you can either be suicidal, depressed about last nights game or you can enjoy the moment and see what happens tonight.

If I was a betting man, I would put money on the Cubs tonight. Win or loose, I will enjoy the game and live my life tomorrow the same way I lived it today.

One last thing. It would have been great to see that fan that touched the ball with a Chicago White Sox hat on wouldn't it?

The dumbass didn't just touch the ball. He damn well stopped it from entering the fielders glove.

That would have been the 2nd out. And a team at bat and at field play differently in that situation.

Lemme guess, were you the flake who couldn't stay in the stands? /chuckle

I wouldn't want to be him if the Cubbies lose tonight. That fucker deserves to be strung up by the thumbs. Or at the very least a lifetime ban from Wrigley...

Fandros

I can sign the ball and sell it to you if you want Fandros. What are you offering for the ball?

I have a bid of $1,000 from a Florida fan and a bid of $5,000 from a Chicago White Sox fan so far. :P

The dumbass didn't just touch the ball. He damn well stopped it from entering the fielders glove.

I completely disagree.

I thought the replays clearly showed that the ball was 6 inches behind Alou's glove. The distorted picture on the front page of the Chicago Tribune makes it look like the ball is a foot or 2 from Alou's glove.

Then a walk. Then an error on a double play ball that would have ended the inning. Then a bad pitch by a tired pitcher.

Classic Cubs baseball. I love it.

If "That Fan" is brave enough to leave his home he should move and fast.

Even if the Cubs win tonight, its still 3-5 months before I'd wager he was safe out and about.

Remember the soccar player a few years ago that was murdered after letting the winning goal in? If memory serves it was Mexico's goalie?

Chicago is a nasty place when considering Cubbies fans and their much touted "curses".

I'd be very subdued and careful. He interfered with a play when the Cubs were 5 outs away from the Series....he is in it up to his neck.

Laerwyn

I was watching the game last night.

From all angles he had the ball dead to rights.

This type of behavior from brain dead fans warrants expulsion from the game for life, if not from the city itself.

Fandros

This is not dead to rights:

sportsillustrated.cnn.com...dagain.ap/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/baseball/mlb/specials/postseason/2003/10/15/bc.bbn.cubs.foiledagain.ap/)

and neither is this:

www.chicagotribune.com/ (http://www.chicagotribune.com/)

(caution: pic is on Trib front page, it might move)

In either case, the fan is not violating any rules because the ball was out of play. I'd like to hear the case for why the fan should be banned from the game when he didn't violate any rules.

The CNNSI caption cracks me up. sure, the inning would have been harmless - if Gonzalez completes the double play.

http://home.earthlink.net/~cybertechnics/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cubspwned.jpg

Hey, that's better than the priceless one I've seen.

Thanks, I grabbed it off of ESPN's main page and added the pwned to make it funny for me. :P

And honestly Cubland isn't really a nasty place. If it were a nasty place, they'd have given a crap sometimes in the last 50 years . Cub fans are much more concerned about checking out cool Wrigleyville (or as Sosa would say Wrigaleyville) bars.

Heh. Of course, it still wouldn't hurt the guy to move... But he's probably already got lawyers lined up begging to help him sue people.

Get a fucking clue if that one play is what you think cost them to drop eight runs in one inning then you are truely a braindead moron. The ball might have been within reach and I use the might lightly since in reality it really wasn't . If the cubs fans think that one fan grabbing a ball thats a foot or two above the wall is what cost them the game shame on them . What cost them the game more than that was booting the double play ball was worse than that and they were up three to one before that sorry no curse no bullshit one fan cost us the game BS .

Flame away at all you want because if you think about it you cannot even justify that one play cost us to loose eight runs in a single inning . Sorry but if you give up eight runs in a single inning you deserve to loose .

1). the guy in the Grey shirt was going after the ball too. After the play they had security gaurds come over and the idiot in the grey was the one that pointed headphone boy out to the security gaurds. They escorted headphone boy out of his seat for his protection. I would have said, not a chance, I payed for this ticket, I am watching the rest of the game. Or I would have went and bought a Florida Marlins cap.

2). What I hear is that the headphone boy is a season ticket holder. Thats just hearsay though. Hmmm, what would you do ?

Honestly, how many people instinctively would have went for that baseball? Probably 90% of the people, it's easy to say sitting at a bar that you wouldn't have went for the ball.

Did anyone make a big deal the other day when the guy by the Marlins dugout interfered with the baseball? No, because the batter popped out on the next pitch.

The foul ball didn't cause them to loose the game. Anyone who things it did is clueless.

Agreed that the "That Fan" guy didn't cost 'em the game. You have to admit tho, it just does make for wonderful poetic injustice.

Laer

Before you type chubs. Think think think.

I'm not saying the play cost the game. But I am saying the fan was in the wrong...

If I had been at the game and paid for it then I'd be upset to no end. I wouldn't have paid big bucks to watch some beer swilling moron grasp out at a ball still in reach of a MultiMillion dollar player.

I'd have had his arm on a pike by the end of the game. LoL and clearly I'm in the majority on that thought alone. Since the guy had to be cloaked and removed from the field for his own safety...

Oh and Dart, you didn't watch the game did you? Else you'd know that pic was taken with Alou's arm still in motion. The ball ended up being swiped directly above his mitt....

Fucking gits and their penchant for clipping photo's and stamping it with the word Pwn...;(

Fandros

Here's the pic that tells the tale.

This is the one you'd have seen if yer Mommy and Daddy didn't force you into bed at 6pm local...

javascript:p hotoPop('104738/2_22_101503_chicagofan2.jpg','Oct. 14: hicago Cubs left fielder Moises Alou reaches into the stands unsuccessfully for a foul ball against the Florida Marlins.','AP','200');

Not that I'm any good at copying links lol

Fandros

Hmmm didn't work so well...

Foxnews.com look for the story related to Cubbies then look at the second inset picture on the right...

http://javascript:p hotoPop('104738/2_22_101503_chicagofan2.jpg','Oct. 14: hicago Cubs left fielder Moises Alou reaches into the stands unsuccessfully for a foul ball against the Florida Marlins.','AP','200');

Fandros

I'm not saying the play cost the game. But I am saying the fan was in the wrong...

I did not see it live, and the picture angles suck. But...

If the ball was past the railing, the fan had every right to try and catch it no matter WHO else was going after it. Would it have been better if he had let it go? Who knows- depends on which team you like.

Hell, if it wasn't a playoff game, people might not care nearly as much.

I seem to remember once a long time ago when a fan snagged a ball and quickly put it into the player's glove (and both acted like nothing happened) in a post season game, but I can't remember what game it was. The ball was ruled a foul.

The ball was above the wall and barley within reach of Alou and yes 90% or more of fans would have gone for it and it was highly unlikley that Alou would have been able to make that catch unless he is go go gadget Alou .
This is nothing like the baltimore NY game a couple years ago where the fan actually grabbed the ball below the wall this one was a couple feet above the wall.
They dropped eight runs in a single inning and any team that does that deserves to loose period end of story.
Does that make the fan wrong or human and your comments of him needing to be banned .... and kicked out of chicago for being human and doing what 90% or more of fans would have done please get a friggin clue .
Its easy to sit back watching from home or a bar and curse saying I wouldn't do that when in reality you probally would have done the exact same thing . Or oh wait your not human right your better than the everage person who goes to a game in hopes of catching a fly ball thats above the wall.

He could and would have caught that, without any interference. I agree with Fandros that if you don't understand that, you must not have seen the play in motion.

It's also definitely true that the one play came no where near costing them the game. So many stupid errors in that inning, it was ridiculous. A team that plays like they did in the 8th inning doesn't deserve to be in the World Series.

Serious? I've never been close enough to a play to worry about it. But I damn sure wouldn't give a shit about a foul ball. Especially if I seen the player racing over to attempt the play. Never said I was above average, nor do I back a banning from Chicago entire. LoL that's something he'll likely want to do on his own....

Tho yes, he'd not be in another playoff game seat the duration of the year if I had my druthers...

Fandros

I totally agree with Fandros, Alou was going to catch that baseball. Also, look at all the hands and mitts stretching out to get that baseball in Dart's picture. You can't tell me that other people where not going for that ball. It just so happened that headphone boy will definately have his world turned upside down because of one STUPID ASS $10.00 BASEBALL.

If you realy think that the Cubs lost the game because of that play, you are an idiot. You are putting to much blame on one play. Basically making excuses for Alex Gonzalez droppping a EASY doubleplay ball.

Put blame where blame belongs, on A. Gonzalez and the Cubs pitching staff for letting up 8 runs.

I watched the play live (from the confort of my living room), and I'll tell you that I'm convinced, beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was going to catch that ball had the fan not bobbled it.

That moment was the turning point on the game.

You'd think an asshole sitting next to the foul line would know what to do with a ball like that.

If the Cubs lose tonight, that guy'd better move to the arctic.

Well most fans in a championship game drool over the chance to catch a fly ball thats over the wall . In fact they become quite valuable over time if the fan gets it signed hell fights have been know to break out over foul balls as well as fair ones.
I agree for his sake since I am sure there are plenty of fans that feel the same way you do he may want to watch from the saftey of his home and maybe even buy a pit bull for protection .

THe picture on the Fox News site: www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...44,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100144,00.html)

That's a cut frame from the Fox broadcast last night. It's a depth perception discussion, but I look at that play and I see the ball about 6 inches behind Alou's glove.

If this were the Yankees, the foul ball doesn't matter because Jeter makes the double play. It reminds me of an article on CNNSI a few days ago about one of the Red Sox/Athletics games. One of these days, the Cubs will understand that errors cost you games. (Of course, Gonzalez is having a career year and a career playoffs up to this game, and you'd think this would be the year he'd make that play.)

That moment was the turning point on the game

Why? Because Mark Prior let it be that way. He lost it mentally and walked the batter. Lets blame a fan going after a FOUL ball instead of blaming who deserves it, the entire Chicago Cubs team that let this game fall apart.

Ohh, I can't be in control of my actions, I have to blame a foul ball. Not a walk, not a error by an infielder, not all the hits that Florida got against my team.

This 26 year old kid had to be escorted out of his house by police because they put his name on the TV here in Chicago. Why should someone have to worry about his life over a baseball game?

This is completely wrong and I can't believe some people having so much hatred on this.

Alou would unquestionably have made the play. Sure, the fan made a bonehead move but Alou was a complete ass for getting on him about it. Fucking multi-million dollar ballplayer ruining the life of some poor schlep in the seats, classic.

And if the next pitch had been popped up in front of the plate no-one would have cared. The fact is that an over-achieving baseball team had a simple late game collapse, and everyone wants a scape"goat". The behavior of the Cubs fans in that section was atrocious. I would have kept that guy there - he was within his rights, a ball in the stands belongs to the fans - and removed the rest of the section of cretins that were throwing beer on a kid for a dumb mistake.

What if your son reached out and grabbed that ball? Granted this guy was older, but still...

In any case, get your panties out of the cracks in your asses over this guy, Cubby fans. With any luck, that collapse last night will save you the humiliation of a 4-game drubbing by the Yankees.

Whats even worse is the fans that were trying for the ball at the same time also turned on the kid when Alou screamed at him when he caught it . Also as far as I am concerned the chicage news station that released his name should be held responsible for any damages that happen to his house and or him and should all be fired for that kind of action .

Heh, followed the poor Cubbies my entire life. Back in Northern Indiana it was the Cubbies or if you were lucky the Reds should you want to make the drive.

I think you'll see a galvanized Cubbies tonight. Wood will come off the mound and rip folks up.

As for the Cubbies chance in the World Series? We'll have to see, will make for one hell of a memory if they win.

Can tell muh grandkids, Tunare willing that's a long way off, that I seen the Cubbies actually win. Right before they entered another 95 year drought......

Which Farm animal is next to blame? heh

Fandros

:lol
Oh man, Im LOVIN this!

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

Disclaimer - I am not a cubs fan - this post is un-biased.

You guys are looking at the picture all wrong. That picture is a split second after the ball was bobbled by the fan. That is why the ball is "behind" his glove... and that is why his glove is closed because he was in the middle of squeezing when the ball actually would have hit in his glove.

He 100% would have made the catch, without a doubt in my mind.

now, look at the other picture on the right
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100144,00.html

Do you see how the other fans in the frame are all holding back, leaning AWAY from the ball? That is because they want their home team player to make the play. That is how you act when your team has the possibility to make the play. You give them a chance. Had the ball been hit by a Cub's player, and the teams reversed... the dumbass would have been labelled a hero (exageration).


Immortalis
2-time high school state champion (baseball)
3-time all state high school member (baseball)
4-time AAU state champion (baseball)
2-time AAU regional champion (baseball)
1-time AAU national runner-up (baseball - and it was bullshit how we lost btw! *grumbles*)

2-time all conference high school member (football)
4-year division 1 college lettermen (football)



aka... i know sports, yo 8*(

Thanks for da backup Immo...

Now stay the course!!!!

/hides

Fandros

If you think the team collapsed after that play on their own, or because of it, it is still undoubtedly the turning point in the game.

Find someone who WATCHED the play, live, when it happened, saw the replays and still thinks he wouldn't have caught it. Good luck.

The hopper to second base would have been a routine throw to second, instead of a do-or-die think-about-two play.

Doesn't matter. Can play coulda-woulda-shoulda all day with this.

That fan fucked up, and it might have cost the Cubs a trip to the World Series.

Ok we could agrue over whether he could have caught the ball or not because its a matter of opinion since the chance was taken from him so no one knows no matter what kind of expert you claim to be . That does not however change the fact that they gave up eight runs after that play period end of story you give up eight runs your gonna loose . So you say what if he had made that play they would have what given up ten runs not the eight they gave up or you could argue they would have stopped them cold . Its all speculation since no one knows if he would have caught it or not or if they would have stopped them or just gave up eight runs anyway and just not had a scapegoat .

Lets not bicker over who killed who

Ok we could agrue over whether he could have caught the ball or not because its a matter of opinion I missed it before. Did you see the play when it happened?

I'm looking for people who actually saw the play live who think it wasn't going to get caught - lacking interference.

3 reasons cubs lost.

1) errors
2) pitching staff left out to dry.
3) THAT MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FAN!

I could have tossed my shoe threw the TV when he did that.

I'm looking for people who actually saw the play live who think it wasn't going to get caught - lacking interference.

Heh. There aren't very many, and all of them are diehard Cub fans. They're quite an unbiased lot, you know.

I did see the play and the replay's and the play from all angles and I do not think he would have caught it . I was not at the game since I live no where near chicago so only saw it on TV but IMO and I know I am a minority here among the cubs fans . You would almost need someone who was at the game close to where the foul ball was to make an accurate call on whether he would have caught it or not since everything else is just someones opionion and no there are no experts watching on TV and of course Alou would say he would have caught it. I also in no way shape or form clain to be any kind of baseball expert since I only tend to watch championship baseball games as the season is just tooo damn long .

Immi,

1st off, grats on your career back when. I am not being sarcastic on this. That is a nice Resume and you should be proud of it.

2nd off, you can not tell me that the guy in the grey was not going for the baseball. He was and he was the 1st person to point out headphone boy to the security people. I do agree that some of the other people where backing off.

Did headphone boy Fuck up? He sure did. Did that play cost the Cubs that game? It might have taken the wind out of the Cubs sails. But if it did, then the Cubs are lame. A winning team shakes off things like that and continues to forge ahead.

Winners do it, loosers make excuses. If the Cubs quite because of that play then they are a bunch of loosers.

I have grown up in Chicago and have always been a Cubs fan, but I am a realist and in my opinion the ground ball to Alex Gonzalez was the biggest play of that inning.

Ok, since I like you misguided chowderheads, I went to MLB.com and ripped their stinky streaming rtsp protocol .rm file nd re-hosted it at base-nine.

Cubs Get Hosed! (http://www.base-nine.org/images/03nlcs_gm6_flochn_alou_foiled_by_fan_300.rm)

Yes, this is still a REAL format file. I could conver it to .mpg or .avi or something, but if installing realplayer is too much for you, then download EO-Video or RMConverter yourself (google for 'em).

Sorry, I hate streaming video. :)

Basically, it doesn't matter if he "would" have caught it or not. The fact that he was unable to make or break his own play (due to fan interference) caused a change psychologically which affected the entire team and, at least in part, caused the late inning collapse we witnessed. Anyone who has ever played important games (I'm not talking about backyard softball here, I'm talking about competitive sports) will tell you that psychology on the field/court is fragile at all times. Disturb the balance and things have the potential to go to hell quickly. What this fan did was disturb the balance. Does he get the blame for the botched plays and bad pitching? No. Simply for facilitating the environment wherein this could occur. While I agree that it is "just a game" and, despite their outrage, fans need to chill out (threatening this man's safety is uncalled for), this fan definitely holds some responsibility and owes the Cubs and their fans an apology (which would probably never be accepted but still).

I live in St. Louis and am reminded of the 85 series against Kansas City. To this day, St. Louisans refuse to take responsibility for losing the series and prefer to place the blame on that fateful umpire call in game 6. Now it's true that had that call been made correctly the series would have ended. But it wasn't and the team was unable to live with what happened. Every team will have to, at some points, deal with the adversity of bad calls and bad fans. Whether or not you can cohere as an organization and overcome the difficulties is what separates the champion from the contender. The Cubs can still bounce back from this but there are many examples of teams unable to do just that, they have a tough road to walk now.

I would concour that it might have been psychologically traumatic to the cubs if they at the time didn't have a three to nothing lead in the eight inning . Sorry but I cannot accept what would have been nothing more than the second out as a turning point in the game and still default to the botched double play and the overworked pitching staff being left in way to long as what cost them the game . The fan catching that ball be he right or wrong at that time they still had a three to nothing lead and he is just a poor excuse for why they lost since all the errors and runs happened after that . If as major league baseball players they cannot cope with loosing one out when they have a three to nothing lead in the eight inning and one out already then they should all be shipped back to the minors . And even if they perchance do win and something as minor as that caused them to drop eight runs then the yankee's are gonna smoke them in four games because they are professionals and would move on without any psychological effects on the way they play because a fan stole a second out from them in the eight inning while they had a three to nothing advantage .
Sorry about the fan stealing the ball but they did a double clutch choke after that and I still think they were gonna choke whether he interferes or not . Then theres the opposite side where I am sure they are saying we would have smoked them anyway fan or not least thats what if I was a marlin fan I would be saying .

Sorry about the fan stealing the ball but they did a double clutch choke after that and I still think they were gonna choke whether he interferes or not .There is little doubt in my mind that if that ball was caught, the 8-run 8th inning ends up a 1-run inning at best.

Hey Dennod,

Thanks for the compliments, I greatly appreciate it. I had a legitimate shot at playing professional baseball (my father played semi pro ball for the detroit tigers, and my grand father pitched for the tigers and was a multiple season 20-game winner. I also have 2 uncles who played professional baseball and had short lived careers in the NFL believe it or not). However, near the end of my senior season in high school a few weeks before the state tournament started up, I tore 2 ligaments in my elbow while throwing a guy out at home in the 3rd inning of a game. I now have a 5 inch scar on the inside of my right elbow from the surgery. I never got a chance to really re-hab it... i never felt right afterwards and I was always afraid to grab a baseball and really start throwing again. So I went ahead and played college football for 4 years, and never had the time to try baseball again unfortunately.

I think about playing baseball every day of my life.


Anyway, lets get back on track-

Watch sportscenter asap. They had the guy in grey on there talking about the play. And yes, I agree with you he was going for the ball, however he did not touch it. He says he saw Alou coming at the last second and pulled away.

Anyway, for anyone that doesnt believe he would have caught the ball, watch sportscenter when you can tonight and you will easily be able to tell he was about to make the catch when the ball was knocked out from damn near already inside Alou's glove by the headphone-wearing phucktard.

good day...

I SAID GOOD DAY!

Unfortunately, I saw the replay 100 times last night on both Fox and, if I remember right, Sportscenter.

It certainly wasn't in his glove. And I thought each time that the wall was behind his glove.

Oh well. Heh.

I made a direct link to good video of it (from Fox) on my server. He woulda had it..

In better news, Boston is taking a 1-run lead to the bottom of the 9th.

SCRATCH THAT -- THREE RUN!

It certainly wasn't in his glove.

I never said it was... i said it "Damn near" was 8)

/cry

Top of the 8th, down by 3 runs =(

Bye bye cubs.


/mourn

Yeah, baby! Cubs lose!

You know, baseball games are too slow, but I love watching all the little moves in a game for some reason.

made a direct link to good video of it

I made my comment after watching your clip - which was in slo mo 100 times last night.

Anyone that doesn't see he would have easily caught it must be simply blind. I thought Palimax's video made it even more clear than it already was from having seen it on ESPN. I can understand not getting it, from seeing static photos, but in motion it's a no brainer.

Well since they lost if I was the ex cubs fan that they are gonna blame ( and I am sure its ex cub fan since the team pretty much put the bounty on his head by blaming him ) I would sue the news station that broadcast my name so the masses would try to kill me for umm let me think 1 million hell make that 100 milion dollars and move to flordia and be revered as a hero who owns a news station in chicago . Just my 2 cents since at this time there is no way he will be able to live in the state and will probally have to be put in the FBI witness protection program or if he wins the suit which I think he could easliy will have to hire a permanent bodyguard .

Really doesn't matter if he catches it or not sorry but if your team dropped eight runs it was just gonna happen you can try to say they were psychologily affected and I say BAH they are proffesional athletes who make millions of dollars to PLAY A GAME who also had a three run lead and one out and if they are so sad that one out caused them to drop eight runs ........ sorry to be a cubs player or fan . Flame away all ya want but they are not gonna win the world series ever if something as simple as one out causes that kinda mental breakdown unless they fire all the sad saps that are gonna stick to that excuse and hire a new team.

must be simply blind

Mm hmmm. My player doesn't seem to be able to do slow motion or frame by frame. Makes perfect sense to me that you'd have a better view in a full speed 3"x3" video than you'd have in a 48" slow motion replay on television.

Mm hmmm. My player doesn't seem to be able to do slow motion or frame by frame. Makes perfect sense to me that you'd have a better view in a full speed 3"x3" video than you'd have in a 48" slow motion replay on television.
Well, I thought it was beyond obvious from even the RM video, but I originally saw it on my own big screen using tivo to replay/slowmo it like 15 times with the people that were over (probably just like you). No one in the room had a shadow of doubt that the ball was headed into his glove. I'm still at a total loss to see how anyone could see him missing that catch, with no outside interference.

Sure.. maybe the Cubs were at fault..

Or MAYBE.. this little pudknockers actions summoned the Sleeping Baseball Curse demon..

The thoughtless stupid selfish actions of one asshole with good tickets opened a rift into the netherworld from which Xxvzohiyu, Demon of Baseball, projected though, ingniting Marlins bats, Slowing Woods arm, weakening Bakers brain (TAKE WOODS OUT, THE BALL IS NOT MOVING). What do you think that bastard was listening to on those fucking headphones?? Instructions from his hellish minions of course..

Well.... at least my Red Sox won.... GO PEDRO GO

Sox win tonight and one Curse demon will be slain..

damn.. Ive been reading too much Elric books.

Reminds me of that kid from the Yankee's-O's series.

Zugs,

I totally agree with you. I would sue the people that put my life in danger (Media). I wake up this morning and am on the tread mill at the health club and the TV staion is playing that foul ball play again. Nothing like throwing fuel on the fire. I would get a court order to say if anyone that comes onto my property without my concent will be thrown in jail.

I would also buy a gun and anyone trying to enter my house without my or my families concent, I would shot. These fucking idiots going after this guy is assinign and it really pisses me off.

LL,

I want Boston to win, even though I HATE Pedro "Racist-crybaby-pussy" Martinez.

For all the cubs fans again.

pwn 2x

http://home.earthlink.net/~cybertechnics/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/cubsowned.jpg

Technical question out of fan context :
Does the limits of the field count as limits of play?
For example on a homerun ball, it the player catches the ball after it passes the back limit, is it an out? Or you have to catch it in the limits of the diam to have a valid catch?

Like in soccer, if the ball passes the white line, it's out, no matter if it's flying and someone kicks it back.
But in basketball, you can still get the ball and put in back in field limits (or call a dead time) even if it's flying thru said limits.

So... What is the baseball rule about this?

One last thing, Zug you should try to use ponctuation and "Enter" key, it helps to follow your thoughts.

Baseball works somewhat like basketball. A ball outside the field of play is, well, outside the field of play (hence the reason there cannot be a fan interference call on the play) but the player can still catch the ball for an out.

I hear on the radio this morning on the Mancow show that headphone boy tried to commit suicide. Mancow does say things that is full of shit but if this is true. This is sad.

I imagine it'd be in the news if it were true.

I know how to spell and formulate sentences and paragraphs .
I however when I am posting half drunk and way past my bedtime do not really care if I formulate sentences correctly . Hell I don't care when I am sober most of the time.

The Cubs double clutch choked and the poor kid whose life they ruined because they needed a scapegoat tried to kill himself is fucked up if he indeed did try .

You wanna correct my grammar I say whatever must be a Fucking crybaby cubs fan who like them is blaming that kid for your team dropping a three games to one lead and dropping eight runs in an inning all because he cost them one out.

Instead of crying about my fucking grammar just don't read it and good luck to you and your forever losers team .

Maybe next year the cubs owner who is not blaming the poor kid will buy the yankee's players. Because they don't make fucking crybaby whining excuses and play to win because that's what they are paid to do .
Rant ended with go fuck yourself don't read my posts if my grammar bothers you no one is making you read them .

Lol freak out dude. :)

I'm not correcting your grammar, but, as you seemed to have a valid point(for me) when you say that "blaming the lost on one small event is lame", I wanted to read easily your thoughts and developpement on the subject. Duh!

Second thing, I didn't even know the "cubs" where a baseball team, and from Chicago until I opened this thread. I'm just a sad euroface ( trash who likes baseball. Duh!

And thanks for the effort in your last post, appreciated. 8)

Oh and thanks Mirdorr on the rule.

Too bad about the Cubs. At least it goes a long way towards proving baseball is not fixed :)

Tonight's game has me, as a Yankee fan, as nervous as I've ever been about a baseball game. I think Clemens has to start the game off on the right foot though and bean Nomar or Manny in the first... warn both benches and stop Pedro from taking out anyone. Of course, if he took out Giambi, maybe they could fill in with someone that can hit a freaking ground ball or fly ball with a runner on third and one out...

Sorry Shash its all fixed and the yankee's have been duffing games for the ratings .
Just watch tonight they are gonna win easily .
And sorry about my last post but I get enough harassment from my co-workers about my grammar so its a touch subject for me since I can formulate sentences and paragraphs correctly.
I am just lazy .

First Ken Macha, then Dusty Baker. Now Grady Little will be the manager second guessed most often in this post season.

Has anyone forgotten that the ump STANDING 6 INCHES from the ball called it foul?

There was no fan interference called what-so-ever.

All you armchair umps need to wake up.

The ump wasn't 6" away and I think this was straightened out on page 2.

It can't technically can't be called fan interference since it was outside the park. That hardly takes away from the fact that the fan did interfere.

it's hilarious!!! im glad the mofo grabbed that ball!!! who cares bout base ball, it sUxx0rz!!! also think its funny how bad of an ass beating that guy is gunna get!!! hahahahahaha