View Full Version : Cut through the Bullshit.
Lleauric
04-15-2004, 11:58 PM
Its been piled really high lately..
Cut through it here..
www.spinsanity.org/ (http://www.spinsanity.org/)
Great site to learn the truth.
I m curious but how do you know its the truth. From my point of view ( not biased I don't really care much about USA presidential elections) this site look like completly biased toward bush heh. Its not exactly the "truth" its just counterattacking whatever point kerry was trying to make.
Lleauric
04-16-2004, 07:01 AM
Read it more Kinu.
That site is a double edged sword.. it cuts through Bushes shit as much as Kerrys.
Example
Kerry's 350 votes to raise taxes
exist only in the minds of spinners
President Bush's campaign and his supporters are taking technically true facts about Sen. John Kerry's record on taxes and spinning them into misleading assertions, which - when taken literally - have led to a series of incorrect claims.
Several of the ads charge that Kerry supported a 50-cent increase in the gas tax. While it is true that Kerry did declare his support for such a measure in 1994, he never proposed or voted for legislation that would do so and has since stated his opposition to it.
But Republicans have transformed this 10-year-old statement into suggestions that Kerry actually proposed such legislation in the past and continues to support it today. For example, at a GOP rally on Capitol Hill, House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R., Ill.) said Kerry "wants to raise the gas tax by 50 cents a gallon." Bush-Cheney campaign chairman Marc Racicot said on Fox News Channel's Hannity and Colmes that Kerry once "proposed an increase of 50 cents a gallon." And on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, Bush campaign adviser Tucker Eskew said that "Kerry doesn't have a plan" to respond to rising gas prices; instead, Eskew claimed, "He has a 50-cent-a-gallon tax increase."
Likewise, the Bush campaign has frequently asserted that "Kerry supported higher taxes over 350 times," as an ad released on April 2 put it. While this may be technically true, it relies on counting not only votes in favor of legislation raising taxes, but also votes against tax cuts, votes to reduce the size of proposed tax cuts, votes against repealing tax increases, and votes for alternative tax-cut proposals, as the campaign admits in supporting documentation.
Some Bush partisans have gone even further, spinning that claim into the suggestion that Kerry voted for 350 separate tax increases. For instance, during recent appearances on CNN, Bush campaign manager Ken Mehlman stated that Kerry "has supported 350 tax increases over the course of his career," and Barbara Comstock, a former Justice Department spokesperson and Republican operative, claimed that Kerry "has supported 350 tax increases."
Heres where ya wanna look
www.spinsanity.org/topics/ (http://www.spinsanity.org/topics/)
Oh ya nm hadn't see that :) my bad, I only read the top hehe
trimlock
04-16-2004, 05:06 PM
it also has a book on the bottom, it kind of has my interest, and kinda doesn't
but it was a good site, just the first few topics were kerry related :P (i thought the same thing at first)
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