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Kelraz Bladesinger
07-30-2007, 03:45 PM
I'm surprised this story isn't up on these forums yet - or maybe its not as big a story as I think just I'm kinda stuck in the middle of it. Details aren't for the faint of heart.

In Ocean's City, Maryland on Thursday a woman checked into a hospital with some internal bleeding. Evidence was found that she was pregnant, but there was no baby. So they went to her house and found a dead baby wrapped in a blanket. Off to jail she went.

Now last night as we were arriving (Fox News first on the scene - take that liberal hippie media!) they had cadaver dogs out on her lawn and found a few "hits" where they believe there were other babies. A search warrant led them to find 2 babies and/or baby parts in a trunk in her bedroom and another in her RV possibly up to 20 years old.

So now, today, I'm sitting on my laptop in a Subway parking lot watching the FBI dig up this woman's entire lawn looking for more dead babies. I've heard rumors about 2 more babies found in the back yard but the police aren't confirming this yet.

How could someone feel like this is acceptable? What one of the 10 commandments is "thou shall not wear condoms" ... and why is it harder for someone to feel birth control is a greater sin than self induced abortions? This has to be the ickiest thing I've ever heard of *shudder*

Jedd Corpse
07-30-2007, 03:51 PM
Its so disgusting its not worth commenting on :(

Thormir
07-30-2007, 03:58 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion she's frakking insane.

Just a hunch, tho'.

akipt
07-30-2007, 07:12 PM
I suspect we'll be hearing more about this...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291377,00.html

Investigators told FOX News Monday that Freeman may have been performing abortions on herself or with the assistance of someone else.

Insane? Possibly. Or she was just exercising her rights.

Nydia Ywalmoriel
07-30-2007, 07:33 PM
Akipt, nice bit of sleazery. Last I checked, *infanticide* was still illegal. Since the word 'babies', rather than 'fetuses', was used, one would presume that this was a case of the former.

In any case, I seriously doubt that she, regardless of how insane she was, performed her own D & E at home, or anything else likely to produce recognizable 'baby' body parts - the article also says she was between 30-36 weeks pregnant (in other words, nearly full term) - and people who have a pathological disconnect between themselves and their pregnant state typically deny the pregnancy until they go into labor and then abandon/kill the offspring after a normal birth.

It's ludicrous to lump this behavior in with clinical abortion, which is overwhelmingly performed before the 12th week of pregnancy, and requires the consent of a medical professional (and often, waiting periods, education, and notification laws). Perhaps if there was less hysteria about legal abortion (or for that matter, contraception in some quarters), and it was available in a larger percentage of counties/states in the US, clearly unstable people like the woman mentioned in the article might actually seek out medical help/counseling when confronted with an unplanned pregnancy.

Regards,
Nydia

Nydia Ywalmoriel
07-30-2007, 07:52 PM
And while we're on the topic of nutjobs, some of those warm and fuzzy 'Pro-life' folks up in Wisconsin just finished up "Paul Hill Days", commemorating the 'martyrdom' of Paul Hill, the fellow who took the Lord's Word into his own hands and:

On July 29th, 1994, Paul Hill boldly defended 31 babies from unspeakable violence by killing a paid assassin and his bodyguard. He was arrested, given a sham trial, and executed as a martyr. On the 13th anniversary of Paul Hill’s act of love and mercy, memorial events will be held in Milwaukee, Wisconsin to honor him as God’s man and our hero.

The 'paid assassin', of course, was physician Paul Britton and his 'bodyguard' was a clinic worker at a Pensacola, FL, abortion clinic. The 'memorial events' included three days of festivities, and "re-enactments". I wonder if they took any photos of the double shotgun murder re-enactment?

Link here: http://www.ezekielsystems.com/paulhillmemorial/
Itinerary here: http://www.ezekielsystems.com/paulhillmemorial/itinerary01.htm

The logic involved in determining that Paul Britton and James Barrett's deaths were not only *not* murder, but ordained and mandated by the same merciful Supreme Being demanding the protection of *potential* human beings (and elucidated ad nauseum on the site), will make your head hurt.

Regards,
Nydia

Rover
07-30-2007, 08:10 PM
Of course the fanatics always leave out the part that if God is really pissed he has lightning bolts and doesn't need to use people to get his way.

Chanzilla
07-30-2007, 08:32 PM
Curious how you think this lady is religious and therefore wont take birth control but will kill a baby?

Ask me it’s more likely she doest believe a baby should inhibit her rights and there for is an expendable. Maybe she couldn’t afford the 500 bucks to get an abortion (maybe she doesn’t know about all the cool agencies that would help her kill her baby legally and help pay for it). Maybe she is really stupid.



But I don’t think you can pin the she is so religious she fear God and wont let her pre marital sex partners wear prophylactics or use them herself, but she thinks God will let it slide when she willingly kills the baby (and probably in some very unpleasant way).

Chanzilla
07-30-2007, 08:38 PM
Ok wasnt pre marital (just read new piece on it).


Mother of 4 already with 3 or more dead in yard.

Still got feelling she aint really all that into God.

Thormir
07-30-2007, 10:06 PM
Women have killed their children because God/Satan "told" them to do so. I'm not sure if that qualifies as being "into God," but it's not so far-fetched. A few Abrahams out there waiting for the divine "stand down" as they hold a knife over little Isaac. Either way, that still qualifies as crazy for me.

Kelraz Bladesinger
08-01-2007, 03:06 PM
Curious how you think this lady is religious and therefore wont take birth control but will kill a baby?

Because her neighbor told me. They could be wrong, but you'd think some point during the getting pregnant 10 times (4 living with her, 2 adopted, and the 4 in question) you'd think she'd have concidered birth control. But thankfully they didn't find any other babies in the yard (just a dog and a cat) and I got to come home today. I'll be on Everquest later!

fildien
08-01-2007, 03:49 PM
Women have killed their children because God/Satan "told" them to do so. I'm not sure if that qualifies as being "into God," but it's not so far-fetched. A few Abrahams out there waiting for the divine "stand down" as they hold a knife over little Isaac. Either way, that still qualifies as crazy for me.

True story.

My niece's mom was found hovering over her crib with a cleaver and rambling incoherent crap saying Satan was trying to kill her baby and the only way to save her was for her kill the baby first. To make it short my brother has custody of my niece and her mom takes lithium and a host of other psych drugs today. Sometimes she has episodes but not as bad as the one above.

Furtivus
08-02-2007, 02:56 PM
Looks like Akipt may have been on the money --

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6820646,00.html

"That body was determined to have been at 26-weeks gestation. Investigators still need to figure out how old the others were when they died, when they died, and whether Freeman or someone else was responsible for the deaths.




The timing is critical. If the pre-term infants were too young to be considered viable outside the womb, Freeman can't be charged with murder. And if they were old enough to live outside the womb, but died before Maryland passed its 2005 fetal homicide law, it may not be a crime even if Freeman caused their deaths."



Fetus, baby, infant, "potential" life?



Even the 2005 fetal homicide law may not be helpful (at least against the mother), because of an exception added in --

"The 2005 fetal homicide was designed to penalize those who kill a pregnant woman or her viable fetus, but it includes a provision shielding pregnant women from prosecution for actions that result in their own fetus's death."