Does anyone have any info on the "coming" of diamond computer chips?

(This post is because I am looking for info from those who might know...not intended as a flame thing)

If only there were some way to find out. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=diamond+computer+chips&btnG=Search)

If only there were some way to find out. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=diamond+computer+chips&btnG=Search)

Thanks for the link. I've used that search engine thing at times. But the reason why I had posted the question here was that other than getting the info from sources that are paid to market the chips, I thought perhaps I could get a "real" opinion from someone who is close to being an informed end user.

If you know so much about them - as to be able to tell the marketing sites from the real articles, and have already done homework, why not share something with us instead of starting fishing expeditions?

If you know so much about them - as to be able to tell the marketing sites from the real articles, and have already done homework, why not share something with us instead of starting fishing expeditions?

I didn't say I knew so much about them. My post should have told you that I was curious about them and was obviously looking for opinions on them. I'll take a wild guess and make an assumption that you know less than I do about them. No harm done, you could have saved yoursself time by either not posting or saying you know nothing about them.

Thanks for the input.

I've got nothing but time.

Not much to "know' about it. Diamond is hard, heat resistant, heat conductive, eletrically non-conductive, and we're getting increasingly better at synthesizing it on a cost-effective basis (to the point cartels like De Beers are suffering reactionary legal embolisms). For fun, you can dope diamond with other elements to make it highly eletrically conductive, while still retaining its good heat conductive properties.

The use of diamond in semiconductor eletronics isn't new, it just has never been cheap.

I've got nothing but time.

good for you!

That's pretty much exactly what I read with one google hit and one visit to Wikipedia - their article on synthetic diamonds covers that.

Not much to "know' about it. Diamond is hard, heat resistant, heat conductive, eletrically non-conductive, and we're getting increasingly better at synthesizing it on a cost-effective basis (to the point cartels like De Beers are suffering reactionary legal embolisms). For fun, you can dope diamond with other elements to make it highly eletrically conductive, while still retaining its good heat conductive properties.

The use of diamond in semiconductor eletronics isn't new, it just has never been cheap.

Thanks Malse, good summary.

Oh Malse, you're my hero, *swoon*.

Catch me next week when I'll be robbing the rich to feed the poor.

Thanks Malse, good summary

Since I was about to get the exact same information, almost verbatim from the first link when I did a google search about it before Palimax posted his google search. Sure Rover, you read up on it. I got the same info you complimented one person for giving you, and insulted another when he showed how easy it was to find just the same information.

If only there were some way to find out. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=diamond+computer+chips&btnG=Search)

That in itself was insulting. I had stated previously I was looking for "real" opinions, obviously anyone can Google it, I just thought perhaps there was an opinion that differed.

Anyhow, I'm not into any pissing contests...I'll let it drop and go with Malses assesment. Seems based in common sense.

I'll let it drop and go with Malses assesment.Male's assesement is nearly a restatement of the Wikipedia Article on synthetic diamonds. [Not a knock to Malse - HE did his homework - but as Taleren pointed out, something that was available with only seconds of searching.]

Diamond also has potential uses in the semiconductor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor) industry[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_diamond#endnote_semi)). This is because the diamonds can be "doped (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_%28Semiconductors%29)" with impurities like boron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron) and phosphorus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorus). Since these elements contain one more or one less electron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron) than carbon, they turn the diamonds into n-type or p-type semiconductors. There are also studies being conducted about impregnating boron-doped CVD diamonds with deuterium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium) yields to produce n-type semiconducting diamonds. Diamond transistors are functional to temperatures many times that of silicon and are resistant to chemical and radioactive damage. While no diamond transistors have yet been successfully integrated into commercial electronics, they show promise for use in exceptionally high power situations and hostile environments.
I'm sure the author meant one fewer electron than carbon though.

If you're going to praise people for giving you what was readily availble by a quick search in an online encyclopedia, getting all ass-hurt because someone told you to look for yourself seems a bit out of place.

The entire article on Synthetic Diamonds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_diamond) at Wikipedia is interesting reading.

If you want to know if a cat has a belly-button, grab a cat and take a look.

I clearly should have checked Wikipedia first. I knew diamond had a relatively low combustion point but I didn't remember it was only ~800 degrees or I would have used more specific phrasing than "heat resistant."

Not to defend or condemn anyone in specific, but given the normal gamut of stupid question threads posted here, I don't see this one being particularly dumber than any other. I only responded because I happened to have been researching the political shenanigans of De Beers a year or so ago vis a vis some new pressure cooking technology that had cut the time to make industrial grade diamond by something like half.

First, in response to a PM:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_001a.html
I'm not trying to discourage people from writing their Uncle Cecil, but it seems to me the easiest way to find out whether cats have belly buttons would have been to inspect a cat. If you had, you would have found that cats are indeed equipped with navels, notwithstanding the fact that they (along with dogs) are born in amnionic sacs. Admittedly, cat belly buttons don't look quite like the human version, being basically an elongated scar, often hidden by hair, located just astern of the rib cage. Virtually all mammals, including apes and lions, have umbilical cords and hence navels, the principal exceptions reportedly being our distinguished forebears Adam and Eve, for reasons that a moment's thought will make obvious.
The "if you want to know if a cat has a belly-button" line is popular here where I work, mostly to encourage people to actually try to do something for themselves -- giving up without trying is popular nowadays. It's not like anyone has to actually get out of their chair and walk all the way to an encyclopedia anymore. How hard is it?

Malse -- De Beers is the living definition of Evil (as you well know).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Beers

Ok, hows this.


I'll re-phrase the question.

After looking at online resources, one of them being Wikopedia (of which there can be a doubt of accuracy kind of a modern version of the game Balderdash) I was curious to know if anyone HERE had any opinions as to whether the "Diamond Chips" were holding any promise, is this something that is the future of processing in computers? I had thought there were people here that were "close" to the processor industry.


FYI to Palimax: After working 16-18 hours per day in the search engine industry I find myself looking at thousands of documents everyday, I've been doing it for around 10 years, my experience has shown that there should be the "grain of salt" theory applied in about 80% of the documents available on the Internet. As I had seen what I thought were fairly intelligent postings by some of the users on this board. It obviously has been shown to me that the postings are nothing more than copy/pastes of Google results.

I'm sorry we all let you down with our cut-and-paste brilliance :(

Woe is us, for we have failed.

I only have two cats and have failed to find a belly button. Must find a third cat. and Malse I cant wait for next week.

If you want to know if a cat has a belly-button, grab a cat and take a look


I giggled while reading that and wondered how many folks would chase down the
family cat and corner it to find out. Now, I find I'm strangely preoccupied with looking at Cookie's belly when I get home in this morning.:confused:

I only have two cats and have failed to find a belly button. Must find a third cat. and Malse I cant wait for next week.
Next week Malse is going to be on the Serenade of the Seas. With me.

You'll have to wait till the week after.

I was curious to know if anyone HERE had any opinions as to whether the "Diamond Chips" were holding any promise, is this something that is the future of processing in computers?
Yes.

Someone mention "fishing". Here is a recent big catch of mine from this late fall. 45" Musky.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/cbuckett/MuskyHunters033.jpg

/derail on

Don't kangaroos (and all marsupial species by extension) lack a navel?
As they left the womb for the marsupium (thanks Collins!) at early foetal stage, do they get any umbilical cord?


Edit :
This search (http://www.google.fr/search?hs=SYc&hl=fr&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=do+kangaroos+have+a+bellybutton%3F&btnG=Rechercher&meta=) gives this answer (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/bio99/bio99215.htm) as first link.

Self ownage! :o

/derail off

I only have two cats and have failed to find a belly button. Must find a third cat. and Malse I cant wait for next week.
I have this sudden urge to grab my slightly wild kitten and pin him down now, thanks a lot.

FYI to Palimax: After working 16-18 hours per day in the search engine industry I find myself looking at thousands of documents everyday, I've been doing it for around 10 years, my experience has shown that there should be the "grain of salt" theory applied in about 80% of the documents available on the Internet. As I had seen what I thought were fairly intelligent postings by some of the users on this board. It obviously has been shown to me that the postings are nothing more than copy/pastes of Google results.

I think that the number of cat owners in this thread that have stopped what they were doing to shuffle through squirming and fur to investigate a cat's belly button proves a little something about the type of intelligent, resourceful, self reliant users that post here. It has more obviously been shown that the willingness to get one's hands dirty in search of the truth, practical application of learning, and independent curiosity make these postings more than simply the copy/pastes of Google results.

I have this sudden urge to grab my slightly wild kitten and pin him down now, thanks a lot.

I have a sudden urge to grab a kitten and go muskie fishing, myself.:p










Just kidding, be cool......

As moderator of this severely derailed thread, I'm placing you all -- and your cats -- under arrest. I'll have to confiscate the fish.

Thor: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE FISH!

Nice fish, by the way. Looks a bit like a Tiger Muskie to me from the markings in the picture. All of the non-hybrid muskies I caught (all three of them) in NY tended towards a much more drab, uniform shade of brown. Of course, it could just be aggravated (and it most likely is). Without observing the scales on the gills, I'll take your word for it <g>. Catching the tigers in the Mohawk River near loch 7 was a yearly hobby of mine.

Nice fish Ib!!

Best Tiger Muskie I've ever reeled in was a 42" fighter outta Pineview Res here in Utah.

Was a great fight!!

Oh and ummm to contribute to the thread so Thor doesn't sandbox me me ....

If they can get the costs down enough to beat out the current meduim then it would be an ideal situation I think.

Fandros

I'm all for it. With all the EMP scare floating around these days, making electronics more robust would be reassuring.