View Full Version : Doom 3 - Holy Jeebus
Haloface
08-14-2004, 08:25 AM
That is perhaps the best £35 I've spent in at least a year (besides that trip to Amsterdam, but that's another story).
It hands-down beats the original Half Life introduction, to make perhaps one of the most emersive and convincing first half hours ever in a game.
And when it all went tits-up.. fuck me was it good.
And scary? HELL YEAH!!! I'm jumping out of my seat like a biatch...who jumps out of their seat a lot.
Gotta be a 9.2/10 for Doom3 so far.
trimlock
08-14-2004, 10:56 AM
can't beat id in the arena of games, they decided to take 4 years of pure hell to get this game out, they just rose the bar about 25 miles
not to mention, this is the same company that puts on quakecon for free every year just for their gamers
Cados Evilsbane
08-14-2004, 11:27 AM
id Software is an American company Halo; don't forget that :cool:.
Sorry just had to say that, lol.
Osgiliath666
08-14-2004, 06:59 PM
My wife has been just wetting her self waiting on this game.. Sounds like a winner.
Vladius
08-14-2004, 09:09 PM
Its not a bad game. Its a pity that all the good graphics are wasted due to the terrible lighting. Also the bait/ambush tactic that every monster in the game uses does get old after awhile.
Haloface
08-15-2004, 05:28 AM
Terrible lighting?
Gah, probably the best I've ever seen.
trimlock
08-15-2004, 11:10 AM
its the best out of any game created as to date(might be better then games in the near future such as HL2, or hell maybe even Unreal3 but that is a long shot), infact that is whats so stunning about the game detail is the lighting and shadowing carmack used, how it could ever be seen as "shitty" is beyond me
plus the fact the game looks damn good at the lowest settings possible and still works on a mx440, which even UT can barely do is a huge plus for the game
bait/ambush is i'm guessing the effect they use when a person goes the extra step to obtain more ammo/health and it sparks a series of monster spawnings that own your face off, never got old with me and i've played doom1, perfect game in my eyes other then a very shitty multi player mode (at least the game is increadibly easy to mod, should introduce some awsome mods - hehe counter strike:doom3)
Palarran
08-15-2004, 04:02 PM
A friend of mine told me the game's overall atmosphere is more convincing than System Shock 2. I'm generally not a fan of first person shooters but after hearing that I may have to try it out...
Haloface
08-15-2004, 06:43 PM
Before I bought it, I read a particular review that rated it at 90%, saying it was breath-taking graphics, sound, etc, etc, extremely immersive and convincing, but that it lacked originality and blasting away at zombies for 20 hours could get slightly boring.
The interviewer's advice was to play an hour at a time, at night, on a medium difficulty setting.
He was spot on. An hour every night is enough to keep the game exciting and fresh, and my pants brown.
Those creepy guys that crawl out of air vents and throw fireballs...they get my heart racing every time.
Cados Evilsbane
08-16-2004, 12:57 AM
Sounds like the reaction I still get from playing a Marine in Alien versus Predator 2. Maybe I'll check this one out sometime soon.
Ya its kind of fun but I can't play it a long time cause it get boring. Its too basic, the graphisms are badass but that doesn't make a game...
Weapons are boring, the way the mobs come is boring, its too previsible. I stoped getting scared after the 10th time I opened a door and some shit appeared behind me. You never fight along with someone (side from sentinel), every time you see someone you know he is going to get raped.
Its a good game but its far from beeing the best FPS ever out of graphism part.
Edit: oh ya you can't destroy anything either. I don't get much the hype, it is immersive, its a badass game graphically wise and its indeed fun ( even MP althought its no where near unreal cause its limited to 4 players). Overhyped game, much like WoW :p
trimlock
08-16-2004, 12:02 PM
over hyped?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this lived up the hype and then some
Dee Cee
08-16-2004, 02:23 PM
This game is heart pounding.
Sanchek
08-16-2004, 02:27 PM
Try it on nightmare, if you think it was too easy or predictable. Not only is it very hard, but more enemies come from more directions. It's not very predictable at all.
It's an awesome game, if you have a decent machine and good sound. There's a ton of story in there too, if you look for it. Although, the end boss was kinda anti-climatically easy I thought. The guardian in hell was way harder.
Osgiliath666
08-16-2004, 02:36 PM
Can someone post up a screen shot from there game? Not some website shot. I want ot take a look at it on a normal machine and not some spiffed up dev box.
Sanchek
08-16-2004, 02:41 PM
It looks about the same.
There's almost no noticable degredation in texture quality between medium, high, and ultra; when you're running around. Low is half way kinda noticable, but still no big deal.
It runs completely fine on my old 2.55ghz and 9700pro.
Well maybe for you gokuu, not for me /shrug. I m not saying its not fun I m saying its not as good as HL was for me. Thats what I expect from a game with a lot of hype. We ll see with HL2 I guess, gameplay always has > graphics for me.
Maylen
08-16-2004, 04:54 PM
I guess if there's not a Croissant Gun then the game must be boring, eh Kinu? :cool:
Maylen Bojangles
Rumog
08-16-2004, 04:58 PM
A trailer some guy I know made. Not the best work but it shows the game.
http://www.zabbies.com/page2.html
Purexhal
08-16-2004, 08:01 PM
Love the game myself, I agree with Sanchek though that the end boss was a bit too easy compared to the guardian. +)
Lleauric
08-16-2004, 08:50 PM
I guess if there's not a Croissant Gun then the game must be boring, eh Kinu?
Wow.. you the black hole of comedy.. any possible humor is sucked up and compressed into a singularity, destroyed at the bottom of its oppressive pull, only to be re-transfigured in an alternate universe as a topical ointment for blisters.
trimlock
08-17-2004, 01:12 PM
ok... half life was exactly the same... only you got to fight marines in the end! and the end boss in HL1 was way the hell easier then the one in doom3, hell it was almost the same (the guardian was the hardest fight, who else was disapointed with how easy sarge was?)
and i don't get where you are seeing how this game was over hyped at all, the only advertisements for it was released by id, no one else even got to get super leet behind the scene beta testing and come out and HOLY SHIT!!!!!!! on their web site, the absolute only hype this game ever had was speculation among gamers expecting it to be good, but it wasn't just good it was fucking good
Fazin
08-17-2004, 08:29 PM
incoming "ya whatever ;p"
I think you need to play farcry some :( doom3 physic engine is non existant almost. Its not HL really, Hl had innovative stuff. Doom 3 outside of his graphics is a copy of ex FPS.
Its a good game its not just not innovative + multi limited at 4 players is duh and the weapons don't make it fun either.
Sanchek
08-17-2004, 09:33 PM
I've been playing Far Cry for the past few days. It's ok, but it's very straight forward. In terms of cinematic level design (lighting, sound, timing, etc), it isn't even remotely comparable to Doom3. It's not much more suspenseful than EQ.
Was talking about havok the physic engine + vehicules and whatever else. :)
Kaziganthi de Orilg
08-18-2004, 03:35 AM
What song is that in the doom3 vid?
trimlock
08-18-2004, 11:39 AM
>I think you need to play farcry some :( doom3 physic engine is non existant almost. Its not HL really, Hl had innovative stuff. Doom 3 outside of his graphics is a copy of ex FPS.
haha what? show me a link to that plz, farcry is a horrible first person shooter, it looks nice, its not even remotely comparable to doom3 in terms of physical eye candy
and you keep saying shit with out backing any of it up, what is the innovative stuff in HL1? i don't remember there being anything, hell its using the quake1 engine, how innovative is that?! HL DID base just about everything of their game from the doom series, they should of just called half life "Doom - the other alien dimension" the sound was shitty, the story was half put together, the engine was semi decent but not comparable to games that were being released at the time, the only thing i liked about HL was its use of AI, thats about it
lets not forget the MP ability of HL, yea it was sooooo fun, i couldn't stand playing HL's multi player for longer then 10 minutes, the only fun gun that game had was the rocket launcher, the thing that made it fun LATER on was a mod, and lets not forget mods are already being made for doom3 and its what? not even 2 months into release? yea its soooo crapy compared to HL, i'm sorry but both games are great, doom3 is re writing the way games should look and the next gen games that will use the doom3 engine will have bitchin lighting and bigger textures to look even better
vehicles? what is with you people and vehicles? somehow a vehicle means its a good game... ok that is just funny as hell, if id wanted you rome the surface of mars on a buggy and collect rock samples they would of, vehicles are not that hard to implement, i could care less if a game has vehicles or not and i'm sure the rest of the millions who bought doom3 could care less as well
and again, you're not telling me how this game was over hyped, i'm still waiting for that explanation (i do hope you know what being over hyped means, and no its not a very flimsy meaning)
another question, whats an ex-FPS, a previous FPS? i guess every fps game is just a carbon copy of another FPS, sorry id, your fps games aren't as original concidering you were the FIRST to make them, and your engine runs the 90% of them... where is your arguement going kinuvan?
Haloface
08-18-2004, 12:54 PM
While I most certainly disagree with Kinu about Doom 3 - don't go bashing Half Life.
It revolutionized - yes, revolutionized - it's genre. From the multiplayer you seem to hate, to the innovations it deployed, its use of the environment, storyline's, AI and gameplay. Half Life invented contemporary multiplayer. Doom created the FPS, Half Life breathed life in to it.
So far, Doom 3 is a brilliant game. Revolutionary like Half Life? Hardly. Tasty like Far Cry? Definately. Longevity? I don't think so, to be honest. But beyond the 20 hour's of play it's given, I couldn't ask for me.
While I do believe Half Life 2 will change the course of FPS's, I don't believe it will be revolutionary.
Far Cry, Doom 3, Half Life...all top games.
trimlock
08-18-2004, 01:21 PM
don't get me wrong, i enjoyed HL, i just don't see how it was revolutionary, it didn't breath life into FPS multi player games, quake was far before it and was extremely popular in the multi player sense (having 8 on 8 games during tech class in high school is ownage)
other then the implementation of AI in HL i do not see how it was revolutionary, Counter Strike was the portion that kept it playable, that was a mod writen well after release, who is to say that doom3 will not have a mod being written right now and playable in the short future?
the reason why i say doom3 is revolutionary is due to the real time lighting, the textures in the game sucked ass(just about all id games are low textured based), they were low time, small poly models (high poly models for the cut scenes) even with the shitty ass textures the game is more involving then farcry was (i like the crytek engine -farcry- but i don't see it revolutionizing anything) if games start moving twords real time lighting, lowering textures so current machines can run them with out needing a small form of nuclear powerplant, and gradually improve the textures i can see it has being a major plus to a games environment: keep lighting, lower textures, gradually increase poly's + textures as better hardware comes out. to me with out good lighting the game is a joke, i can't stand it
when the orignal doom was released, there wasn't a very big enthusiast crowed out there to really experiment with it, there was some but not the amount we saw with quake1. quake1 has had a very long life, half life has had a very long life, all due to them being easily moded, don't know how many hours i spent on a runes game, or CTF game of quake1, so whs to say the enthusiast crowed doesn't hit up doom3 like people did all the generations before it? we are all counting doom3 out already way too early
another thing, kind of off topic, but on the same one at the same time: who else is getting pissed off about valve/vivendi pushing the release date back and back and back and never giving anything official? a little while ago they were saying a few weeks and it goes gold, now stores are having november 1st release dates, AHHHHHH! UT3 will be out before HL2 and we'll be killing everyone with dual assault rifles
Crist0
08-18-2004, 06:59 PM
There is one major flaw with this game: It is for the PC.
FPS games, especially multiplayer FPS, are far better on console.
Sanchek
08-18-2004, 08:51 PM
Was that supposed to be a joke?
Popi Tinythug
08-18-2004, 11:07 PM
Thats a pretty offensive statement! Quake 2 rocked. It made me drop Goldeneye in an instant.
trimlock
08-19-2004, 01:24 PM
quake2 was my favorite all time FPS game, i still play it from time to time
and if you dislike pc FPS games cristo0, doom3 is being released on the xbox soon enough
Sanchek
08-19-2004, 01:32 PM
Far Cry physics engine:
So, I'm playing the river level, and there's one point where a helicopter comes at you fairly close to the river surface. I jumped off my boat and ran up a hill. Threw a grenade into the chopper and hit it with a rocket. When it exploded, it was below me. For some reason, that shot me literally half way across the map; HIGH in the air. It reminded me of fighting Cazic in fear back in the day and being flung across the zone. Except, when I finally landed, I didn't take any damage at all. Great physics engine there!
The rag doll stuff was neat, but it was pretty gimmicky overall. The physics weren't really that predictable. Sometimes you could pull off a certain trick using them, but other times the same thing wouldn't work. I didn't care much for it.
I will say the Dam level was a pretty cool twist, being dumped into the jungle with a crappy gun and 10 shots left for 50 enemies.
trimlock
08-20-2004, 10:54 AM
i think the rag doll effect is pretty cool, its better then non interactive corpses (no i'm not that "weird")
Dreamsower
08-24-2004, 12:58 AM
I thought Doom 3 is pretty good. A nice change from all the fanfair its getting in reviews, I thought this was a nice change in pace and is a poke fun at it. http://www.machall.com/index.php?strip_id=290
**Just scroll down past the comic for the day, its in the post"
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