So, I was due for a new phone and got the droid a few days back. Blowing my mind, a real keyboard with all the features of the iphone and the searching power of google is pretty powerful combo.

The power of Google?

haha, the searching power even :) missed a word
It has a little microphone icon, I say a word and it:
a) sees if its a place (and if its near me, if so it google maps it and/or gives me directions),
b) sees if its a contact and then it sets me up to call or text or e-mail them (with my gmail acct), and
c) it searches the web for that word

all the features of the iphone

such as?

I was told it can only hold 256megs of apps?

They're changing that in the Dec 11th update, but to be honest 256 mb of apps is about 300 or so various apps on your phone - far more than most would download and use, I'd imagine. There is also 15 gigs of storage, so like in the Quake app the game engine runs on a few megs (like 2 or 3) of space and the graphic bitmaps and all that crap are on the SD storage card.

They're changing that in the Dec 11th update, but to be honest 256 mb of apps is about 300 or so various apps on your phone - far more than most would download and use, I'd imagine. There is also 15 gigs of storage, so like in the Quake app the game engine runs on a few megs (like 2 or 3) of space and the graphic bitmaps and all that crap are on the SD storage card.

i have 44 apps and it comes to 640megs, but I am glad they are fixing that because we are going to be carrying a andriod phone starting next year.

Some apps like Tap Tap Revenge and things are HUGE once you start getting songs for it.

Also, customer have said there is some lag at times moving through the menus and pulling down drop downs, and there's some slight disappointment about lack of multi-touch, Sound is AMAZING, Camera is horrible, but Video is good can you, have you had any experience with these things?

Well in an ap like that the songs would be saved to the SD card instead of the internal memory. Think of it like RAM and HD space. I have a SNES emulator in the system memory, yet all of the ROMs saved to the SD card.

Never had any lag, but its less than a week old so who knows. As for the camera I'm the last guy to ask - they're all a piece of shit to me, haha.

eww you have to save your stuff externally to an SD card?

that turns me off instantly to this, I guess I will wind up getting the 3GS b/c we're encrypting mail here soon and I'm about to be SoL if I want to keep getting mail to my iphone rather than lug around the dumb blackberry they provide. ewww

"External", as in how your SIM card is external. Not external to the phone.

If you have a BlackBerry with any expanded storage, that's through a little MicroSD card too.

Its an external hard drive inside the phone. The blackberry has the same exact thing.

My iPhone didn't lag at first - but now it gets pretty bogged down at times. I'm happy with my iPhone (only cause its jailbroken) however totally unhappy with the phone service and 3g coverage itself.

I've contemplated going back to Vz and the Droid is very tempting. There's only a few things that have me uneasy about it so I'm waiting for more reviews.

exactly, I don't like that idea.



my iphone lags like mad these days it pisses me off, opening mail, going to facebook it's all so much slower than it ever was and I've factory restored and it's still slow. 3G is a joke AT&T, seriously.

I never had problems with AT&T until the iPhone but in the limited areas it works it's not terrible. I have noticed that you periodically end up unable to send or receive calls despite it registering a connection ... Seems to vary by area up here.

Anyway android is pretty nice, and although it can't harness any mor jigawatts of google than the iPhone, i'll definitely be looking to see if their hardware has caught up next year.

exactly, I don't like that idea.

The iPhone is just using flash memory too.

yes but it's not something I can remove or lose or break, this is totally a personal preference thing not a knock to the phone.

exactly, I don't like that idea.



my iphone lags like mad these days it pisses me off, opening mail, going to facebook it's all so much slower than it ever was and I've factory restored and it's still slow. 3G is a joke AT&T, seriously.


I've defaulted mine too and it didn't help it one bit.

You can't lose it , its inside the case ... I think by the battery. Which is another plus, I got a spare battery with it since I'm in the field a lot and can't always charge every day - iphone only has the internal one you can't swapI think. It charges with a mini usb so you can charge off a laptop or computer if you want, too.

Hrm what else ...

yes but it's not something I can remove or lose or break, this is totally a personal preference thing not a knock to the phone.

I'm thinking you'll lose the phone itself long before you lose an internal memory card?

You can't lose it , its inside the case ... I think by the battery. Which is another plus, I got a spare battery with it since I'm in the field a lot and can't always charge every day - iphone only has the internal one you can't swapI think. It charges with a mini usb so you can charge off a laptop or computer if you want, too.

Hrm what else ...

I charge my iphone off my laptop all the time.
What about tethering?
What type of music player/capabilities does it have? How much are the apps/content?

iphone only has the internal one you can't swapI think. It charges with a mini usb so you can charge off a laptop or computer if you want, too.

ijuice cases are nice. They have a extra battery built in.

The plus was that you can't swap the iphone battery since its locked inside, you can swap the Droid's out if it goes bad or is old or if you want spare(s). Shooting a piece of shit reality TV thing we were mobile and handheld for 14 hours and didn't have a place to charge at all, but my 2 batteries got me through the whole day of using it a ton with still 50% left on my second battery. A normal day that isn't necessary, but piece of shit reality television bores me immensely :)

Yeah it has tethering. It has Flash too, which is something I was annoyed the Iphone couldn't do.

Its Linux based, so it really has the same music player, etc. capabilities any computer does, or at least it can if it doesn't already. Naturally, like the Iphone the apps range from free to around $5 or so, but the one big difference is that apps aren't limited to the Verizon store - you can get an app from anywhere you want. So, you can have third party video game emulators (essentially pirated material) or you can have porn apps ... anything you can think of, really.

Taken in totality I think people prefer the app store, most people I would consider "power users" jailbreak anyway, and as a developer you can adhoc anything you want to 100 phones. There are a lot of things I don't like about the app store, but it's a net positive. (iphone-nes is the best reason to jailbreak too. I've been wasting immense time with Dragon Warrior :( ).

The big thing with Droid development that I've seen is the wide variance in platform capabilities. Web-stuff doesn't care, but actual Droid-native programming hit a number of the snags that Apple conspicuously got right, which is to my understanding why a lot of the phones are reported as being so slow. Apparently the Palm Pre had a similar problem with people writing web apps to avoid platform issues and the result being suboptimal.

I do think it's kind of funny that after "losing" the desktop, virtually all smartphones are migrating to open source Unix platforms. A modern phone is more powerful than the Sun workstation I used to have at university.

Google's new Nexus One is being sold now. Its not quite as robust as the Droid and lacks a few of the features - BUT its pretty similar (same OS, same apps, etc.) and its unlocked so you can use it on any carrier. Its made by HTC, same makers of the Eris.