Well, it has been a couple of weeks since I posted this shit. What do you guys think? Has the drop rates been nerfed??

I also see less high end equipment being sold in the Bazaar.

I can't prove it, but I would bet (And Bet Big) that there are people in the highest guilds on the server in kahoots with @#%$. Be it some Banker-Guild Leader-Officers. I goto www.@#%$.com to see what is for sale there and the really good items make it to that website and not to the bazaar on the server. Whats that about.

Why can't Sony track this activity and get rid of his characters?

Lopp Syded

Wow, I just posted this and @#%$ named was automatically changed. All I have to say to you dickhead is FUCK YOU

I can't prove it, but I would bet (And Bet Big) that there are people in the highest guilds on the server in kahoots with @#%$

Bypassing the filters = not a way to make friends with the staff

The black helicopters are after you man, better watch yourself

Actually I dont mind if he says Yanti s, i put it in the filter to screw things up for the spammers that come and post links once a week. =P

I love conspiracy theories.

After all, I always assumed that as more and more people quit EQ, there's be MORE stuff in bazaar on their secret ghost bazaar mules.

However, you do realise that its because of ldon, not some trader, that is causing this lack of tradable mid-end items.

I have to agree with Hubbe on this one. Sounded like you and your friends just had a run of bad luck with the drop-rate (I think you mentioned CT). It happens.

You can't really use the bazaar as an indication that drop-rates have been nerfed. LDON makes it sooo much easier (unless you are a warrior) to exp, find groups, etc, that a lot of people don't farm pre-LDON zones anymore.

For the auction sites, more power to em. While I don't like what they are doing to the game economy, no amount of bitching is going to change it.

actually I think I mentioned CT but I could be wrrong:hat

LDON makes it sooo much easier (unless you are a warrior)

not to change the sublject but TELL ME ABOUT IT! I cant get my Warr into a Ldon/xp group to save my ass... But I digress as thats been covered for months now.

It's because you suck.

Dennod you are without a doubt one paranoid ignorant pig fucker.

/chuckle the so called "high End guilds in cahoots" theory was turned down by Agent Mulder even. He said it was too far fetched even for him to look into.

Stupid git...

Fandros

Warriors only suck because they tell everyone they suck.. who wants to group with someone who mashes the taunt button and every time he looses aggro he stops to type "damn warriors just can't taunt".. group with a sot warrior for 15 min and tell me warriors are not overpowered..

Right after you all left, we went down and scored a named back to back.

2x bofs wuwu

Hey Fandros I think what Dennod is saying is that some of the high end guild bankers can and probobly have done some ebaying. If it's with Yan7is or not who knows.

We all know that this Yan7is guy has made millions of dollars off this game and we all can only assume how much influence he actually has.

Money can and has corrupted even the finest people out there. Who's to say it hasn't reached the top end guilds.

group with a sot warrior for 15 min and tell me warriors are not overpowered..


...shut up.

tell me warriors are not overpowered

/takes the glue bottle away from Siludorf.


Ibudin

Let's see Sister V, he CLAIMS to have made millions??

And you believe him? Oh forgive me, I've some swamp land in Az I really would love to sell you.

/chuckle

As for high end guild knowledge. I used to be involved in one of them thar high end guilds....

Fandros

Just like Leviathan would -never- let their guild leaders ebay Elemental bows. Noooooo...

Funny..

When our LDoN group seeks a tank, we can never find a warrior let alone two.
Guess some people need to set their LFG up more.
Sure as heck helps.

Fandros,

Me Perinoid? Not a chance bud. I buy and sell every day in the bazaar. I see as much if not more then most people what is sold everyday. I also take a look at playerauction once a week. I know that some of the best items are sold on that site instead of in game.

If it is LS, SOT and oh, by chance your old guild EW selling items to yan-tis I believe it happens.

Don't give me that everyone in EW is better then everyone else in the game shit speech again bud. I could almost garantee that shitgear was skimming at one time and selling. My RL brother caught him on it on a bone-clasped girdle about 3 years ago.

There are many good people in EW and every guild out there, even the guilds that train and have shit ass leaders. BUT, there are also scumbags in every guild. So don't give me that EW people are so much better then everyone in the world garbage. I am not out here bashing EW at all, but not everyone in EW is a saint or the best player in his class or....

On the LDoN thing, there is a lot of nice drops from the Hard setting and you are not seing them come out for sale in the last month or so.

One last thing Fandros, who are you? Ohh, I forgot, you think that you are the man, the best player, the all mighty. You can atack me on these boards all you want because you mean nothing to me in this world.

Someone talks anything that might deal with your old guild and you get your pantyhose all in a bunch. Relax bud, take a deep breath and exhale. Now, do you feel better?

Seeing how you react to these boards, the answer is, Probably not.

Hate to say it fandros but Yan7is has easily made millions just by following him and the rest of the market I can tell you that. As for EW being in kahoots heh I do not want to flame bait, but EVERY guild has people who ebay and shit. Trust me I know :) I have dealt with them, weather it be IVM, EW, SoT or even gnoll busters they do it.

You can atack me on these boards all you want because you mean nothing to me in this world.

And yet your still talking... some people never learn do they?

or even gnoll busters they do it.

Not Ice Claw man!

Sorry to speak so highly above that pice of shit you wear on your shoulders Dennod.

But, you surely have to see that playing out the paranoid scenerio as you did at the start of this thread is high spirited crazy talk.

If you don't, fine you are nothing more than a minutes fun for me.

Oh, and I never claimed EW was a saint. Just stated that you don't find them wasting time controlling items that you might be able to buy.../chuckle

Fandros

denn , You need to learn about trading and bazaar and how the market works. your post doesn't make sence.
anyone can make milion of plat easily. its not hard.
it has nothing to do with bring high guild or not . its just that some people look at this game in difiernt ways. like matrix. there is soo much behind everquest than just game. it doesn't matter what your equipementor what guild tag u have . guild tag doesn't bring u money .
its how u see everything and its how bad you want it. and if your belive in getting it .
i for one i am happy for @#%$ or whoever . and drop rate has not been nerfed i looked into it closely.
as in bazaar someone mentioned its because, most people do ldon stuff not many people farm or hunt regular mob they use to , so less stuff in bazaar on sale. because they can get nice stuff in ldon by point .
my 2cp

btw sup fandros. when are you comming back ? :)

Heh Noarm my account is still active.

Just waiting for the right situation to rear it's head. Given enough interest I'll likey return.

Fandros

2 Things.

1). Lets count Yan-Tis sales.

1 Sale 1M plat = $1,000
3 Sales 100k plat = $100 a piece X3 = $300.
1 High end item = Lets say $200
1 character = Lets say $400

Total $1,900 for 1 Server in 1 week.
$1,900 X 52 Weeks = $98,800
Number of Servers? 25? = $98,800 X 25 = $2,470,000

This number can easily be higher or lower. But even if we cut this number in 1/2 he is over $1M

I am not even talking about his own Web Site that he makes money on.

I looked at playerauction and he has made $2,400 in the last 2 hours.


2). Farwater Scale Tunic up for sale on Playerauction. Pieces for this item are only found in PoW. PoW is a tier 4 zone, how many guilds are in PoW? 5? 10? This is one of many items that I have seen sold off on that board.


So, Yan-tis easily make a $1,000,000 a year and I am posative that some of the higher end guilds do sell some higher end items to him.

The drop rates might not be down, I will give you that.

1) You assume all the sales on PA/Ebay actually happen. That is unlikely.

2) You forget that to have such a large inventory of PP, he is not farming it, he must be buying every bit he can get, and reselling it at a higher price. What do you think the profit margin is? My guess is 5-10%. So he could be pulling in $200K per year, which is a nice living, but he's also got a lot of capital invested in something that can go "poof" tomorrow.

hey fandros email me lets keep in touch.

Are the pieces for the tunic no drop?

Whats to stop the high end players from selling the items in game, and then other tradeskillers make it and sell the items on PA?

...

Quote
________________________________________________
"2) You forget that to have such a large inventory of PP, he is not farming it, he must be buying every bit he can get, and reselling it at a higher price. What do you think the profit margin is? My guess is 5-10%. So he could be pulling in $200K per year, which is a nice living, but he's also got a lot of capital invested in something that can go "poof" tomorrow."
________________________________________________

Please read the first posting of this.
Yan7is has Duped billions in PP that's what is the problem here. Not that he is selling things. If he was just going into the game and getting plat like anyone else that wouldn't change the game.
He has cheated to get the current pp and what he has done is cornered the market and made a huge influx of plat into the economy on every server. He has hurt the economy by doing this.
What Sony has done as a recourse to this is really unknown, but some assume that the drop rates have been lessed due to his cheating.

I can give one example of what appears to be a change in drop rates, and that would be the Phase Spider Carapace off Phase Spiders in Dragon Necropolis.

Where I could normally figure an average of one per 25-40 kills(1 dose of kei), I have recently gone a stretch of
5 doses of kei without a PSC drop, but many more silks than what used to drop. I am wondering if the new robe quest which requires the silks may have resulted in some tinkering with the loot:(

Lol,i pulled to Gobby earrings in 30 minutes last weekend.Don't think nerf rates are down.Just that they are always as they have been.I've gone 8 hours with no earring drops.It's all luck methinks.

Screw the drop rate that's not it, I have a decent chunk of plat right now but there is seriously nothing good for sale in the bazaar. Even look at Fungi's, usually 40kish, have now climbed to 50+ if any are for sale, and people screaming left right and centre in bazaar for them. This can't all be attributed to LDoN in my opinion. It just happened too fast, within the last 2-3 weeks. My guess is that the rumors of not plat duping, but tradeskill macro'ers is true. After they made their bullion then they dump it into the economy buying up all the high end items they can, only to resell for obscene amounts when they finally decide to get rid of items, or as proposed above - selling on the internet.

dennod , just browse the PA forums and read a little , there is a dupe bug going rampage on all server and several macros extisting to make big pp.

There was a bug some weeks ago with some mobs that dropped +15 million pp per kill (diseased shark in erudits crossing) from a 10 min timer respawn mob. This has been fixed.

All people that used that bug got a character rollback and all the items they bought where deleted due the rollback. there your rarestuff in the bazaar goes.

Anyways the game economy is suffering a lot from all the macroed and duped platin. There where several combines that gave you up to +40pp per sale to vendor by just buying vendor stuff. With macro and multible accouts you can pull out a few millions per day. Since there is some macro software out with a powerful scriptlanguage any combines that makes some profit is most likley abused. Some of the big seller in @#%$ got a lot accounts banned because of doing all that shit. @#%$ had a few days ago a loss of 4000 items from his auction site... so i guess the GMs quite aware of the problem.

I stopped giving a fuck about whats being sold in the bazaar and about trying to farm bullshit. I been broke from day 1 (sometime in Feb/2002), and am still broke. If i dont get it on my own or someone doesn't give it to me (guild etc), i dont really give a shit about it. I dont support greedy bitch in this GAME, which means all of YOU.
Since this is a Nag board, ill go ahead and say "fuck you all" and have a nice day:hat

Awweeee how cute. Dextor found a venue where he could use big boy words without getting soap in his mouth...

Do you wonder if he had to check over his shoulder in a nervous sweat while he was hunt and pecking for the F....U...C....K keys?

Fandros

I "banked" for IG campers.. I "banked" for HG in rathe campers, and I didn't even know that I could use feerot to get to pok (I ran the sk route using the scion to get to nexus).. anyway by the time I got to level 46 w/o knowing anyone in game when I started I had 25k in bank and a jbb.. point is you can do it if you want to do it =]

As for bazaar prices.. the prices on ldon items is plummeting like mad and I think there is a definite cause/effect relationship between ldon and other items..

Also like to add that being in a high end guild definetly lets me make more money but in a different sense.. first I have access to knowledgable people who know where to hunt and do it efficiently and effectively.. and 2nd after a while you can't buy any upgrades so the plat that rolls in rots in the bank account.. only thing I found to occupy my plat with is tradeskills.. and pretty soon that's going to turn profit too..

Also if you didn't know high level guilds do sell their items, but it's not like they send a tell to that @#%$ guy... they put it up and he snatches it up and I bet at premium prices..

LoL, ahem lets see.
/em drops his snag line over the starbord side and begins to troll and pulls up a > Fandros, greedy bitch no.1

/chuckle

Shows once again your knowledge of the folks here bud. There's no way one could ever call me greedy. ;P I've rarely disputed for loot in my 4.5 years of EQ play.

Now child, please fill out the attached form before you continue to play your rookie games on those who came before you ...

Fandros

sure the value of pp has dropped, market is constantly being more saturated.And sure the economy in game changes, theres alot of variables.I dont see the point about getting upset about it, unless you have a finiancial investment though.

people say warriors suck because a monk has tanked fennin ro and a pally has tanked everything in time and they can hold more agro then a warrior.

so ya warriors are kinda under powered

OMG hahaha wtf zenrk you drunk ???
what does warriors and monk and tanking has to do with this forum .

and by the way dexxor or whatever it is . GREED is good for you . Don't be a hater.

people say warriors suck because a monk has tanked fennin ro and a pally has tanked everything in time and they can hold more agro then a warrior.
The monk that tanked Fennin has something like 7 drops from Quarm alone. He's a gross anomaly. Hardly something to base class balance arguments on.

I'm sure that Links can also tank better than quite a few level 65 warriors on our server. That doesn't mean the warriors are underpowered. It means the top .1% are just mudflated beyond any kind of balance (deservingly so, too).

The new melee system might help warriors a ton if implemented half way decently.

if implemented half way decently

A joke?

Under 50k please

/hijack on

A joke?
Pretty much, yeah. :(

It'd be a miracle if they manage to get a change like that right.

Quote "and by the way dexxor or whatever it is . GREED is good for you . Don't be a hater."

lol, ahem.

/em casts his snag line over the port bow and pulls up a > noarm, greedy bitch no.2

lol this is fun guys. im catching all kinds with this lure.

Who do you think you're amusing, Dextorr? Really nobody else on this thread gives a shit who you think is a greedy bitch, so instead of reporting in to us every couple of posts, why dont you go discuss dirty greedy EQ playes with your real best friend, the semen-soaked gym sock.

HAHAH druclin that owned.

On the LDoN thing, there is a lot of nice drops from the Hard setting and you are not seing them come out for sale in the last month or so.

Oh, how I so very rarely visit here but I can't resist...

Your vision of this is entirely screwed...imagine (I know it will be hard for you...) that you're in a half-way decent guild and all of your gear is better than the best tradeable stuff in the game...

You got bored a year ago and maxed out all of your tradeskills...

You've maxed out a few alts because, well, why not...

Now, you have 1-2 million plat sitting in the bank, and nothing to do with it. There's nothing left in the game for you to buy except maybe some food occasionally, but oh yeah, you can make your own.

Don't you think there are HUNDREDS of people like this on the server? I assure you, there are.

So, 6 of these people (with great gear, because quite honestly it's required to do LDoN High Risk adventures effectively...) get together and they find some droppable high risk adventure items...

Now, none of them need the plat...so why not just destroy it?

Well, for starters, MANY of these items are still upgrades even for time flagged alts because they're new, and quite honestly, they're very good...so for a time, expect that most of these items will be going to THEIR alts before they're sold in the bazaar...because, like I said...they don't need the money, and their alts are far, far more important to them than either plat or some whiny punk who wants good items to buy in the bazaar...

After that phase has passed...and I assure you it hasn't yet...then the ONLY thing keeping these people from just destroying these items (because again, they don't need the plat, and their alts already have it) is to raise more money...one such reason for doing so would be to sell because it's not worth the hassle of selling the item if you don't need the plat...

Yep, that's right. The very thing you've been bitching about (selling plat) is the main reason why high end items end up for sale in the bazaar. Because the people who have the capability to get those items don't need the plat anymore, and selling it is more of a hassle than it's worth for MOST of the people in those types of groups.

I'm not taking any sort of sides though, I have my own opinions about buying and selling and quite honestly don't give a crap about sharing them with you. However, I'm just saying that if you spend a TINY amount of time THINKING with a little bit of PERSPECTIVE, you'll realize that your whole argument is a complete joke.

Kraka

i destroy my loots .. CAUse ITs FUN!!! and I caN

Valid point Kraka, then again there are those of us that struggle through Hard adventures in LDoN and to most of us all of the items that we can use that drop there are upgrades. Another reason as to why they arent sold.

Been in EW how long Kraka ? /grin

I've been in EW since July, but that wasn't my point. I am NOT one of those people...yet, but I know a lot of others who are and was just clarifying the point. ;)

My magelo (http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=554320)

There's my authentic magelo which shows that I have 6643 plat in the bank...I'm quite sure that doesn't qualify. /grin

Kraka

Kraka is hiding all his plat on an alt in the Caymans.

Fil

damn kraka u are rich 6k plat , i be lucky to ever save more than 3k.. YOu are SO UBBORZ/