Not sure if all the facts here are correct or true, but if they are Target can KMWA

Vietnam Veterans Association - By Dick Forrey

We asked our local Target store to be a sponsor of the Vietnam Veterans
Memorial Wall during our spring recognition event. We received back a reply
from Target management that "veterans do not meet our area of giving. We only donate to the areas of the arts, social actions, gay and lesbian causes, and education."

My thought: If the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall, and veterans in general, do not meet their donation criteria, something is wrong at Target. We were not asking for thousands of dollars, not even hundreds, but simply sponsorship of an endorsement for a memorial remembrance.

As a follow-up, I E-mailed the corporate headquarters and their response was the same.

Personally, I will NOT be purchasing anything at Target Stores again. If the Vietnam Veteran or Veterans in general do not meet their area of giving, then why should I, as a Vietnam veteran, spend my hard earned money in their stores?

TARGET IS FRENCH OWNED! WHAT A SURPRISE!

Target will also not allow the Marines to collect for "Toys For Tots" during the holidays.

Well to be honest...
There are billions of people that need support on this planet.
Veterans, abused children, starving poeple, drug addicts, alcoholics, people with cancer, peope living in a war, poor people, homeless people, minorities like gay/lesbians, not education and art is a good thing to donate to aswell.. there are thousands of different "groups" of people that need "donations".
If you want to have everyone donate to everyone, fine. But I guess it won't work. You personally may have a close relation to veterans from vietnam for whatever reason. BIllions of other people don't. They donate to other groups.. or not at all.

Simple as that. I do not believe that there is any reason to be in any way angry at them for it.

True but it seems that ,and im not making this a personal attack on euro's, but most euros dont understand that in the US being a vet is a big deal to us. Not sure how it is over on the other side of the pond. Everything we have in the US has been given and faught for by VETS. And for a company even if it is home based in France to have a policy against endorsing vets is a slap in the face

Gay and lesbian causes over Veterans? What did gays and lesbians do other than be born?

Most larger companies/coorporations in order to maintain a good relationship with the communities they are in will usually sponsor pretty much any 'charitable' event up to a given amount (usually in the range of 100 dollars.)

I think the thing is a hoax and wouldn't doubt seeing it on Urban Legends soon (I'm almosted tempted to go check it out, it sounds -very- familiar).

Though in some bass ackwards universe where this is true, I feel it's pretty shitty to imply that "the arts, social actions, gay and lesbian causes, and education" are all worthwhile activities while honoring those that have served American and died in it's defense or the defense of it's ideals isn't is absurd, especially in a country where the military is a very intergral part of our history and society.

Though fuck all you reservists whining about having to go into action. Thought you could get away with working one weekend a month to soak up some easy cash eh? =p

Target will also not allow the Marines to collect for "Toys For Tots" during the holidays.

The other stuff does not bother me that much. But this is just fucked up.

Snopes' report (http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp)

Target isn't french...it's based in MD. Target only donates to certain causes on paper, but if the guy had actually submitted a request for the grant, the odds are very good it wouldn't have been turned down.

Target is sponsoring a much larger "moving veterans wall" project, so obviously they'll bend their own "rules" in the name of a good cause.

Apparently a number of companies have rethought the the toys for tots thing after this happend (http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/walmart.htm).

<a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp" target="_new">God Bless Snopes</a>

Erhnam beat me to it. 8( Gonna go ninja-edit his post.

As i said

Not sure if all the facts here are correct or true, but if they are Target can KMWA

Seems to be a case of someone screwed up and both sides are back pedaling. Have a new teacher here and he is a stickler for the rules. Not able to reasearch much atm

Don't worry Balty, we got your back.

Does it get pettier than trying to blackball an entire company on the grounds that they wouldn't give him money?

BRB, gonna go ask for a free burger over at mcdonalds... after all, they do contribute to other kinds of charity and I can't imagine anything more charitable than spoting a poor stressed out lower-class student a free meal.

hmmm....not sure if i should be worried now....yesterday you wanted a spankin

People often get hungry after that type of activity.

And for a company even if it is home based in France to have a policy against endorsing vets is a slap in the face
Just to point something interesting in what you said (almost done at work, and I'm browsing a bit) :

Apparently this email is wrong, or hoax oriented, but I find interesting (and maybe debateful?) that you think "if they aren't for a cause, they are against it".

well the email from what i saw was based on a misunderstanding from what i can tell on BOTH parts. And yes you are either for something or against it imo the middle ground just means your afraid to commit to either side

So, Baltyn, what you're saying is that you have a formulated opinion regarding every strife in human history, or if you lack such - would be willing to form an opinion on any strife in human history whether or not the conflict interests you or not?

Hey thats me, its either black or white and the key word here is opinion. As to whether I was right/correct in my thinking or just full of so much crap it would be coming out of my ears is a totally different story. So to answer you question Kiv...yup

Actually...it's probably just made up by some fucked up individual with an agenda.

A few years ago, an email was circulating that Procter & Gamble's president appeared on Oprah Winfried on so-and-so date and announced that 10% of the company's profits go straight to the Church of Satan and that there was nothing any Christian could do about it.

www.snopes.com/business/alliance/procter.asp (http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/procter.asp)

It just amazes me that these individuals (it's not just one...someone liked this enough to recycle it again...then fix some errors...then recycle it again) make this shit up with no basis in fact...then throw it out on the 'net. As Zehn said...thank God for Snopes. People do this for all sorts of stuff.

Generally...if you get it in an email and it doesn't quite pass the bullshit detector (or it's close)...go check Snopes. In any case...I wouldn't pass this stuff on unless I'd done some double checking to see if any sort of credible news source in some way corroborates something like this.

Sponsorship is for many businesses a form of advertising.
It is in a sense a business agreement, where one party supply's cash and another supply's publicity (or another form of service).

For many company's sponsorship is viewed as an investment into publicity.
If they feel that the return does not justefy money spend, then well they just don't sponsor.
It is naive to expect a company to just give money away and not get anything (or enough) in return.
If this was the case it would not be called "sponsorship" but "charity".
Many company's do give money to charity causes though, just not alot.
You can't give money to every good cause, if you do, well I doubt you're company will live long and prosper.

FUCK THE FRENCH!!!!!!! FREEDOM FRIES 4 LIFE!! AND FREEDOM TOAST TOO!!!!! MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!!!!

Ok Balogh, you're freaking me out here. No apostrophe + s unless it's possessive, indicating ownership.

Example: It's Dave's dog
Example: A company's employees
Corrected text: For many companies, sponsorship etc...
Corrected text: Where one person supplies

Take it for what it is, constructive critisism, 'cause your english is pretty good... it's just that that little flaw makes your post very hard to decipher, at least to me.

Everything we have in the US has been given and faught for by VETS
Don't you find that a slightly dangerous statement? I personally would say that millions and millions of hard working people (all over the world) are the ones responsible for all you have.

Last time I checked, no invasion of the US mainland has occured since the war of independence, and there you can even argue that there were no real US yet.

Your statement should read, "we owe our current international climate to our vets", because domestically your vets haven't done squat.

Pearl harbour?

Hawaii.

Ouch :P
Go Kiv, go Kiv.

Last time I checked, no invasion of the US mainland has occured since the war of independence, and there you can even argue that there were no real US yet.

Untrue..
www.multied.com/1812/Washington.html (http://www.multied.com/1812/Washington.html)

Besides.. you dont need to be invaded to have your way of life threatened..
The Nazi's never "invaded" England...

Agreed, L2. The US has a fairly extensive history of intervening overseas where its interests are threatened.

And I had no idea of that battle, touche.

Don't feel bad Kiv, most American's don't.

Many companies do give publicly, with those wonderful "selfless" commercials where they announce publicly how much money they gave to poor kids with no shoes in some small country last year. But there are corporations that donate quietly and don't make a huge issue about it. Several major corporations even have ties to charitable organizations that designate where their money is spent, which speaks in their favor. Target donates a portion of sales to the NEA, for example, and while Target is no saintly crew, that's a good enough motivation for me to shop there as opposed to Wal-Mart. Human rights issues at WallyWorld non withstanding.


-Kanyli

Untrue..

I just got an e-mail today, listing humourous but true things about being Canadian--

11 in the list...

"
11. In the war of 1812, started by America, Canadians pushed the Americans back...past their 'White House'. Then we burned it...and most of Washington, under the command of William Lyon MaKenzie King who was insane and hammered all the time. We got bored because they ran away, so we came home and partied...Go figure..
"

Yeah I know it was "The British"... eh, was a funny e-mail anyway :)

Gays and lesbians are born that way...

So do migets get their own fund too?

"Everything we have in the US has been given and faught for by VETS"


That and built on the back of slaves. I love generalizations.

Ahh and here comes the slave card.

You mean like the rest of western civilization?

Hell.. Eastern Civilization as well..

Oh wait.. all western other cultures had slavery.. just we were the "last" to get rid of it, because European consumers enabled the plantation system with massive imports of Southern Cotton? Because when we were killing ourselves trying to rid slavery from the south, Europeans were supporting the Confederate States in order to keep up the supply of cheap cotton?
How many highways were built by slaves?
The only Railroads built by slaves were by the Confederate DURING the war.
No industry to speak of really in the south..
Fact is.. Slavery was a purely agricultural function...
Slaves never "built" america.. what they did was work on massive plantations and grew cotton to ship to Europe and make clothes for you fuckers. Guess yall never had a problem as long as you were getting cheap raw materials.

Seriously.. fuck you ledge with your weak, uneducated arguments.. you dont know shit other than the leftist propaganda rammed down your thoat.. Too stupid, lazy and arrogant to learn the truth about history, just repeat whatever lie some jackoff tells you you're "enlightened" cause you mimic and spew back..

But I'm a slave to fashion!

So besides all insults, in that case you do actually agree that its not true that "Everything we have in the US has been given and faught for by VETS"?
Just checking...

I think it's quite obvious its not true.

You are just making a mountain out of a mole hill again so you can fall asleep thinking you somehow made something productive, out of such an obviously retarded statement, and used your ubar stealth putdowns on vets and the US in general.

Well.. not to quote a bumper sticker.. butttt...

"If you can read this... Thank a Teacher."
"If you can read this in ENGLISH, thank a Vet"

Wow, the subconscious guilt is tearing you guys up.

I was being sarcastic. I feel my comment is about as truthful as the one I was mocking.

Lighten up.

You wear your buttons right on your forehead with a big sign saying push me. So easy to get a rise out of.

There are two kinds of people in this world. People who think there are two kinds of people in this world and the rest of us.

You were made to look like an idiot, that is all. The only button you just pushed was the panic button.

OMG you got me.

Not to throw this way back to topic, but...I work for Target and I'm also a Vet. After reading this I was a little annoyed to say the least. That's not the policy on programs or donations. I personally don't handle the grants, etc., but one thing Target's doing here is taking part in a program sending gifts to all of the men & women deployed in Iraq, which I am happy to be a part of.

-Maugelen