View Full Version : Even if official it may not be true...
ViBeSJoKeR
08-25-2003, 10:29 AM
April 8, 2003: Chemical Ali dead!!
August 21, 2003: Chemical Ali caputered!!
So ... how about Saddam's sons .. Dead or Alive?
Ibudin
08-25-2003, 12:25 PM
April 8, 2003: Chemical Ali dead!!
I am not disputing you here but can you show me more than this quote backing up this claim from US/World news sources?
Ibudin
ViBeSJoKeR
08-25-2003, 12:42 PM
www.rediff.com/us/2003/apr/07iraq3.htm (http://www.rediff.com/us/2003/apr/07iraq3.htm)
www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/5576290.htm (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/5576290.htm)
ehrnam
08-25-2003, 01:13 PM
"We have some strong indications that he was killed in the raid," said British Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon. "I cannot yet absolutely confirm the fact that he (al-Majid) is dead, but that would certainly my best judgment of the situation."
A quote from the link in the miami herald.
ViBeSJoKeR
08-25-2003, 01:26 PM
The officers say that the body of Ali Hassan al-Majid, known as 'Chemical Ali', was found next to those of his two bodyguards and the head of Iraqi intelligence services in Basra.
A quote from rediff..
Point is ... first he is dead, then he gets captured .. I was pointing at the fact that the news we get presented, even when "official", is not always what it is.
Osgiliath666
08-25-2003, 01:39 PM
Shut the fuck up Ytrok.
ViBeSJoKeR
08-25-2003, 01:41 PM
Tough words from a little man...
Osgiliath666
08-25-2003, 02:18 PM
Shut the fuck up Ytrok.
MarzMartini
08-25-2003, 02:49 PM
Ytrok talking about little men?
OH NOS I R LEAVEING THE BOARDS AGAIN!
Crist0
08-25-2003, 03:12 PM
So...what are you saying here? You show an India based news website claiming unidentified UK sources saying he is dead...are you insinuating that is America's fault or something?
I know there's a point your dope fried brain is trying to make here, care to enlighten?
ViBeSJoKeR
08-25-2003, 03:21 PM
are you insinuating that is America's fault or something?
News was released by UK officials so I assume the US has/had nothing to do with it.
The point? Scroll up to where it says "The point is".
Ibudin
08-25-2003, 03:24 PM
Interesting but then again I usually dont look at those new ssources and stick Newsweek, Cnn, Time, or USnews. Don't think I ever read in any of those sources that the "US" was claiming to of killed him other than the latest news. Take the news for what its worth but yes I do believe that Saddams sons are dead..no worries here.
Ibudin
ViBeSJoKeR
08-25-2003, 03:30 PM
Ah I found some more about this ..
Wasn't he declared dead by the coalition early on in the war?
Yes he was, wrongly so. On 7 April this year, coalition HQ in Doha announced that his body had been identified following an air strike on his house in Basra. When I went to that house soon afterwards local Basra residents told me they knew for certain he had escaped the attack. They were right. In June, the Pentagon admitted that he may after all be alive but it could not be certain.
Source: bbc news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3172915.stm)
Crist0
08-25-2003, 03:31 PM
Then your point is kinda moot since you are basing it off of a internet news website that doesn't even name sources, and is contradicted by the reputable news agency article you linked.
Either you're bored or you're slipping. Bring on the wacky plots by Americans to subjugate the world that you and your buddies uncover for us weekly.
The Indian website's plots to do so aren't nearly as cool.
Crist0
08-25-2003, 03:34 PM
When you actually research it further and look back to the April 7 article that information is supposedly taken from, you get this:
British Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon said he had "strong indications" that General Majid had died in a laser-guided munitions strike on his home, but added that there was no confirmation of the death.
ViBeSJoKeR
08-25-2003, 03:39 PM
You are right Crist0 ...
"but added that there was no confirmation of the death."
I should have read that part since I so often say the same when people judge others to pay attention to the "may have been" parts in text.
Thanks for pointing it out to me, much apopreciated.
Taino
08-26-2003, 07:26 AM
He didn't even take the word UK, US; Europe in his mouth and you start to insult and harass him you fucking assholes.
Can't you get over your Ytrok hate just for a few and at least READ WHAT THE FUCK HE WRITES?
*slaps em*
deaath1
08-26-2003, 08:30 AM
It is not that we hate Ytrok it is just that what he posts is usually just bullshit.
This past history of posting bullshit makes people research his posts and it usually ends up making him look stupid.
I am sure Ytrok is a nice guy but you are equating pointing out his stupidity with hate. That is just not the case.
Fandros
08-26-2003, 09:32 AM
If any of you jackass's have spent just one day in actual battle you'd know yer lucky to know if yer own men are alive at the end.
Let alone know if an enemy is dead after aerial assault.
/shakes head.
Fandros
Carabella Valenteen
08-26-2003, 12:27 PM
I love it when Taino gets physical
*swoon*
:)
Taino
08-26-2003, 12:30 PM
I know you like it, babe.
:eek
Kreoshin
08-26-2003, 04:24 PM
Can't you get over your Ytrok hate just for a few and at least READ WHAT THE FUCK HE WRITES?
no.
Crist0
08-26-2003, 11:09 PM
Actually I did read what he wrote Taino, otherwise I couldn't have pointed out what he overlooked.
Maybe you need to work on your own reading skills there chief.
ThePerfectFlaw
08-27-2003, 03:24 AM
I'll start reading what Ytrok writes as soon as he starts writing something other then pure bullshit.
For example, his nuggets have been quite humorous. But for now, I just make sure he isn't breaking any rules.
ViBeSJoKeR
08-27-2003, 06:42 AM
But for now, I just make sure he isn't breaking any rules.
If only you did that for everyone you might actually become a mod that does his job.
ThePerfectFlaw
08-27-2003, 10:06 PM
Oh nos! Ytrok thinks I sux0r. *sob*
Carabella Valenteen
08-28-2003, 12:31 AM
you *do*, honey!
Raar! :)
Baloghdarogue
08-28-2003, 02:19 PM
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Can't you get over your Ytrok hate just for a few and at least READ WHAT THE FUCK HE WRITES?
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no.
Ignorance is bliss.
Why bother reading what someone has to say?
It might actually make you think and agree and that makes the flaming so much harder.
Really reading is a horrible thing to do so is thinking.
I think there should be a disclaimer at school that say's:
Thinking and reading are done by trained professionals.
Untrained thinking and reading may lead to serious headaches, blindness and other yet unknown diseases.
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME.
Then again it would not surprise me if this is already done in the US school system, just to prevent students with headaches suing the school.
I'll start reading what Ytrok writes as soon as he starts writing something other then pure bullshit.
How do you know it's bullshit, you don't read it?
Or are you saying Ytrok only posts "Bullshit", in that case how does you're PC survive the immense amount of bull manure?
Come on admit you read his posts and love them, gives you a change to flame.
For example, his nuggets have been quite humorous. But for now, I just make sure he isn't breaking any rules.
his nuggets?
Aha I get it you mean the bullshit nuggets you don't read, but you are making sure those bullshit nuggets do not break any rules. How exactly?
Come on admit you read his posts and love them, gives you a change to flame.
mirdorr
08-28-2003, 06:04 PM
I read your post and I think that I'm not sure you've read the majority if Ytrok's stuff......
Cenaden
08-28-2003, 07:53 PM
And Carabella's claws come out...oooo....
--Cen
Carabella Valenteen
08-29-2003, 11:17 AM
*jiggles just for Cen*
How's classes, cutie?
ThePerfectFlaw
08-29-2003, 09:48 PM
You're really stretching there Balog.
If you'll notice, we have a section on the boards called "nuggets." The links he's been providing have been quite gigglesome. But then again, you're too wrapped up in being a wanna-be psuedo-intellectual to notice.
Ytrok has, unfortunately, for the last few months failed to post anything in NAG/RLNAG worth really giving full consideration. Sometimes he provides a different viewpoint, but it's become just a rehash of the same old Eurotrash principles.
So until someone who's posts I do enjoy reading reflect that Ytrok has finally stopped posting right after Eurolands 2 minute hate, I'll be happy to just peruse and not really spend any time responding.
Seeing as how the rules I 'enforce' are rather simple, it's easy to just glance over for any infractions, of which there have been thankfully few. Nobody really gets along around here, but at least you all behave.
Then again, it could all be a matter of personal definition. Either way, KOTOR awaits.
~out~
Boneskin
08-29-2003, 09:54 PM
i dont have the time or patience to read all the posts so i apoligize if someone already said it.
There is a big difference between thinking u got someone with a bomb that pretty much turns your body into an unrecognizable form plus the fact that if we arent on the ground then we cant tell if someone moved the victims away and having ground troops kill the person with bullets and then have them be identified.
once again ill give u credit where credit would be due, but once again u let me down ytrok with some flimsy connection that anyone with a 4th grade education could see through. but i guess the education system over there isnt good at teaching "logic" and i guess the parents over where u arent good at teaching "dont be jealous of other people and just appreciate what you have". so go back to searching the web for something that would put america in a bad light while u hold your small dick in your hand. im sure u will run across something good eventually. we are a pretty fucked up country.
Crist0
08-29-2003, 11:24 PM
I disagree with virtually everything Ytrok says but give him some credit. When his mistake was pointed out he acknowledged it, unlike some others.
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