this is just a rant, but the latest patch in which those dirty evil Sony bastards nerfed the fabled jboots really got to me, i for one waited 5 days on the list for that camp and finally got my turn on Sunday. Being a necro i have no way to increase the speed of my pet, these boots were just what the doctor ordered. FINALLY i could farm and my pet would be able to keep up with me (for the most part) but then, the march 23rd patch.

I read the line in the patch info that said, "We tweaked some of the fabled gear" all i could think is "you dirty bastards wouldn't dare" well they did, yes instead of them casting SoW, now they cast a spell that is approx the same speed is Run Speed 5, along with the tweak as they call it, instead of them being a target able cast, yes you guessed it, now they are self cast only, yet again Sony pulled the 'ol Bait and Switch tactic, i have to tell you i for one am livid over this latest screw job, of course i done the feedback, and have canceled my 2 accounts.

I might be acting like a spoiled little brat over this, and if i am so be it, flame away. my reason for posting here is 2 fold.

1. yes it is to vent, course i have to tell ya this one really got to me, and (2. im asking everyone to do a feedback on this and please let Sony hear from the peasant, because make no mistake, to Sony that is all us gamers are, so please will you all take a few minutes and when you are in the game /feedback maybe it will make a difference.

I feedbacked as well. Took me only 5 hours to get 3 pairs (<3's 3-boxing and being the second group there) only, but I wouldn't have even spent 20 minutes on 'em if they weren't targetable. Hell, even a 30% increase yet targetable would be better then these.

Normally I wouldn't give a shit, hell I only used it twice when kiting but that they left this thing up for 6 days is kinda ridiculous.

Though personally, I would rather they introduce a questable item that has right click velocity.

you want a klenex box?

Only because I just got new 8x10 glossy's of your sister with a vibe.

Even Ray Charles could probably have seen that nerf coming. You shouldn't be surprised.

I totally agree with Sinlayan, over 3 days for that friggin camp.. If I wanted no drop crappy ass jboots I would have gotten them from the quest. The SoW click on those were awsome. Fuck sony, fuck them right in the ear!

No kidding Sanchek. Even after it was all over the class boards that they are changing the effect of the boots people still sat in line for a chance at them.

Hey Sinlayan this nerf is nothing in comparison to the Luclin area right click FD item nerf as far as necros are concerned. Man were people pissed, /deleted accounts, stop payment..guess what they didnt care.

Err thinking back ..could be wrong but that nerf was possible the reason we got Death Peace. So who knows many well get SOW for all!

yes, how dare sony implement an item just for the sake of putting it in, its like down right SHAMEFULL OF THEM!!!

i mean c'mon, sony randomly puts in fabled mobs with fabled items, they should of never nerfed! and fuck them for putting on recommended lvl's on these items after is pent 2 hours of getting my twink gear, i think i'm gonna cancle all accounts i have access too because sony decided to add in something fun, realize they put in somethings that were a little too broke and fix it, THE WORLD IS GOING TO END CANCLE TODAY BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

Figuring that they would nerf the effect on it I never went to that camp. I spent all my time in frenzied waiting for a sash since the wait was only 16 people long as opposed to 30 some at j-boots. :rolleyes

i have a solution .......reroll a druid :) have nice day :)

You and that damned ffbss Mdana.

:D :D :D

I pulled a Nostradamos not going to the J-boots camp. :p

going back to the glory days of eq, camping old world zones was a great idea, NOT.
I can't believe so many of you have fallen for it.

Arch Lich Thana

Although the collectors quest that gave you that cool clicky fireworks staff was a nice diversion.

They seriously need more "fun" quests like that one that result in "fun" rewards.

Fuck sony, fuck them right in the ear!
I love South Park :)

Im sorry about the rude and distasteful remark I made about Sony. Please do not think that this is any reflection of Valiant Crusaders or the people in it.

:|

It turned me on.

Im sorry about the rude and distasteful remark I made about Sony. Please do not think that this is any reflection of Valiant Crusaders or the people in it.

Lahle, i have this visual of a officer in the VC KGB holding a gun to your head saying read this or die...

I think they washed her fingers with soap for typing that.

VC has a very serious finger washing policy.

I believe it all started when we let that Ogre Shadowknight in.

Udabutt Scratcher.
His fingers bring a new meaning to the term "death touch".

/shudder.

That's Udabut

Just think about it this way.

If this week was all about reliving some old school EQ memories and events..

You just got the "fabled Nerf"

*drumroll*

lol

took me 39 levels to get SoW and they go and put it on a pair of boots? lol

Took me 50 levels to get ice comet and they put that on a staff years ago....

Kad

it took me about 3 seconds into this thread to relize this was not about feedback but it was about moronic people bitching about a nerf that happened on the test server like 3 hours after the patch went live... not to mention it was on any board realated to EQ.

you really think sony was going to leave a item with *instant cast sow, from invitory, targetable* in the game? you evedently have been playing for less then 3 months...

50% runspeed kinda pisses me off after I spent 15 AA's(Add 3 if you want to count old school aa's) to get it without a buff. :(

I could see 45% or something...

It could be 15% for all I care, just make it pet targetable. 8(

You cancelled your accounts? Than let it go, why do you care what happens from this point on?

havent camped the boots myself, dont plan to, but i didnt see the nerf coming. i mean hell, the upgraded the drops for a while on old school named mobs. a lot of it is pretty decent stuff for how easy it is to get.

i just figured it was a nice bone sony threw at the higher level people who might find targetable run speed useful (pet casters)

didnt even know it was nerfed until i started reading the boards today and it kind of surprises me


lets not fool ourselves into thinking this was some kind of balance issue. we all know it was not even skirting on the edges of being overpowered.

seriously, FFS... its SoW... please.


they need to fire the employees doing useless shit like this. then maybe we can either pay less per month or they can pay the other employees more to get shit fixed before MASSIVE GLARING BUGS make it onto live servers (dx9 engine anyone).

i mean wtf? god this nerf is just another good example of SOE whacking off with the money we pay them each month instead of putting it to good use



The Fleecing of EverQuest

/sigh...instaclick sow is a huge deal. I think we've all just become a bit too jaded with the game. Do any of you complaining think that the item as it stood was a bit too overpowered? Giving a class defining ability of druids/shamans/rangers to everyone in the game who bothers to camp it doesn't set off the spider sense?

On the six year anniversary, I guess everyone will be bitching that the new item that will let people instaclick-KEI everybody is a piece of shit because it was nerfed to be self-only.

earth to lyrik earth to lyrik
we ARE playing GoD/PoP era everquest.
55% runspeed on a click item doesnt mean dick anymore. please at least attempt to be realistic

sorry but at this point in the game, i dont consider sow to be even one of my class defining abilities. i dont even cast it anymore unless i have to dig through my book when a newb asks for it.
infact, i specifically hate casting sow when a newb asks for it, but i do it anyway just to avoid being an asshole.

if some necro or mage who took the time to camp the boots wants to take care of it, let them.

since we ARE INFACT PLAYING GOD/POP ERA EVERQUEST, I fail to see why the boots in their original form needed any adjustment at all. its not like were still back pre kunark where something like that would matter.

i mean hell, we have PoK. Druid/wizard teleport anyone? no thanks, not unless i have to get somewhere very specific. I'll just take the PoK stone.

dont kid yourself. everquest already suffers from serious mudflation, the boots werent hurting anything

It was a real genius who decided to rip off a shaman epic reward, change its name and add 15hp then turn it into a fabled drop(hey rogues, maybe we should make the fabled assassin in lguk drop a targetable high elf illusion mask).

It's too bad they don't have QC worth a shit over in Sonyland or they wouldn't have caught it so late.

Testing, what a concept.

>earth to lyrik earth to lyrik
we ARE playing GoD/PoP era everquest.
55% runspeed on a click item doesnt mean dick anymore. please at least attempt to be realistic

haha, that is so funny, the jade'ness is seeping through every hole in your body

what part of god/pop makes insta click, targetable, 55% run speed acceptable? i really can't find it, although in god we spend 10aa's (13 in total) to get it and now anyone can get it with out having to spend the AA's? haha yea this item was never over powered, fun sony in the ass for ever puting in items in the game! its such a horrible idea to begin with!

its overpowered how?

and you didn't read my post...

what part of GoD/PoP makes this item non-essential?

and why would someone spend 13aa's only for an item (for celebration i might add so your still lucky that they even ADDED this item for the small time being) ONLY for an item to come out with the ability to match that speed?

like someone already said, ray charles could of seen this nerf coming

What part of GoD/PoP gave everyone a class defining ability to anyone with 10 hours to camp it?

PoK books, required no camping and anyone of any level can use em

Click haste items, click buffs of any kind for that matter

sure the appropriate caster can cast a better buff than all the click buff items, but its the same case with the boots:

I can cast SoE which is faster, gives levitate and see invis.

as i said, the only real good the boots did in their original form was helping out a lone pet caster.
the only negative thing they do is undermine really low level druids shamen and rangers ability to sow

theres plenty of people at any given point to cast a free sow/SoE/bih li in PoK or wayfarer camps these days, i honestly dont think anyone is getting undermined here, and if they are, they probably don't know it, because they are probably off leveling in lake of ill omen

and as for the runspeed AA's... they cant be dispelled, they work indoors and they dont take up a buff slot

I can cast SoE and i have the AA's because they are incredibly useful.. The AA's have nothing to do with this at all.

What part of GoD/PoP gave everyone a class defining ability to anyone with 10 hours to camp it?

That was actualy Kunark right? SoW potions. Gives every class the uber end all be all defining ability of Druids/Shaman/Rangers.

Takes me 2 secs to buy a SoW potion, and wala, I'm one step closer to being overpowered.

Oh yeah, what about invis potions? I mean, wtf!?!. Tinkered Vanishing Devices, Kunark war greaves, the BP from chardok... Shit man that was a class defining ability for some classes.

Soulbinders? WTF...I remember when new servers would pop up the peeps making the most money were those who hit level 12 and could start binding people first.

Dont even get me started on gate potions, giving melee the ability to gate, way overpowering. Tolans BP... WTF? Overpowering.

Its bitching like that that have made this game a cesspool of whinny fagbags running around and bitching about how another class can do someting they cant.. but for fuck sakes if another class is going to get any of their abilities.

If you want to play a game where everyone can do everything, go play UO, or better yet wait and play EQ2 and woah, how fun that will be when everyone is exactly the same.

Self click vs click others...there have been many click buffs that let you do stuff to yourself, but Verant has been very stingy about giving you click buffs that aren't in your class that you can click on others.

Give me more examples of items where you can click somebody else free of cost with an ability your class doesn't have? I can think of a few items, but none that are as good as sow. Sow potions are nice, but they aren't instaclick...when I'm pulling and my sow gets dispelled, FJBOOTS > Sow potion...by a long shot.

Casting invis is hardly a class defining ability. I can't think of a single time I've seen someone say "Paying 50p for invis!"...and again...these are all self only. Different from being able to instaclick a raid with sow. I've yet to see an item in-game that let you instaclick anyone with invisibility.

"Soulbinders? WTF...I remember when new servers would pop up the peeps making the most money were those who hit level 12 and could start binding people first."

Ok...we're getting a little beyond the scope of fabled jboots here. Sow > bind in the game at this point. I guess the closest example would be an item you could spend that could give you the ability to instaclick bind on an entire raid force. I wouldn't want to see an item in the game that could do this either.

"Dont even get me started on gate potions, giving melee the ability to gate, way overpowering. Tolans BP... WTF? Overpowering."

Again...the comparable item here would be one that instaclick TL to bind everyone in a raid. I don't see this item being put into the game.

Its bitching like that that have made this game a cesspool of whinny fagbags running around and bitching about how another class can do someting they cant.. but for fuck sakes if another class is going to get any of their abilities.

Verant has never been against giving abilities to other classes...if it was self only...and usually if it cost money to use or was not as good as the best spell in the line. Making items that you could click on others (esp instaclick on others) that is not a spell your class has has been fairly taboo with just a handful of exceptions. The fjboots nerf was in-line with that. It is self-only insta-click...just like the original jboots...just faster.

Anyone with twinks in the mid teens let myself(Lagbok)
or Morogon (morbok) know if your interested in raiding with us. We did Befallen with Zang's twink the other night and had a blast.

Pls excuse that previous post, hit wrong topic to reply to. That is all, carry on.

Give me more examples of items where you can click somebody else free of cost with an ability your class doesn't have? I can think of a few items, but none that are as good as sow.
lets see here... blood orchid katana... but its definately not as good as sow... oh wait, it is sow.

I can't think of a single time I've seen someone say "Paying 50p for invis!" clerics and paladins cast IVU in guk years back all the time.. and it was free. a few years ago i had a ton of people ask me for invis in velketors when i was lfg. maybe you didnt play that long ago.

Different from being able to instaclick a raid with sow.

hahahaha right. what kind of raid needs sow in the first place except maybe ring war. i dont care if i have insta click sow, im not sowing 30+ people. ill just let a shaman bi li or a druid FoE them. please, lets try to be realistic.


i dont see where you got your "comparisons," and im not even gonna ask.


am i the only one here who realizes were talking about a spell that gives 55% run speed? nothing more.


how about this... instead of this argument were having now, you anti-boot people just come up with ways that the boots were bad.

my reasons

Good: Let pet casters make pets run faster to keep up and maybe someone else can sow the newbs now.


Rebuttles, ahead of time:

Sow costs nothing now. There are a million druids shamen or rangers in PoK to SoW, SoE, or Bih Li for free.

The boots wont be dropping forever.

The only unique thing about the boots' effect is the instant cast.

Insta click 30+ people in a raid? please. druid or shaman can sow more people faster.

Players can get run 5 which is perminent, not dispellable and doesnt take up a buff slot. So who benefits most from the boots? pet classes. Ultimately everyone ends up with run 5 and the boots just become a fun toy for anyone but pet casters.


Arguments?

It was an epic reward they added 15 hp to(not like shammies are used to having our spells whored out..doh! Shoulda seen it coming).

It should never have gone into the game like that, lack of testing strikes again.

Even the dev team caught on to that fact, which says something about you I think...

lets see here... blood orchid katana... but its definately not as good as sow... oh wait, it is sow.

I'm willing to bet money that if you /feedback and someone who read the feedback actually cared, it would be nerfed to self-only. The fact that probably nobody still playing the game has this sword pretty much keeps devs from caring.

In a purely RP sense, I think you should have to wear jboots to get the effect.

clerics and paladins cast IVU in guk years back all the time.. and it was free. a few years ago i had a ton of people ask me for invis in velketors when i was lfg. maybe you didnt play that long ago.

Ok...in fact I do remember people asking for IVU in LGuk. I tried to stay out of Velks as much as possible...white mobs on white floors with white walls really wears on the eyes after a while. You're nitpicking here. There is no instaclick item that will let you instaclick invis on anyone you target...that was my main point.

For the record, I've been playing EQ since it went public.

hahahaha right. what kind of raid needs sow in the first place except maybe ring war. i dont care if i have insta click sow, im not sowing 30+ people. ill just let a shaman bi li or a druid FoE them. please, lets try to be realistic.

My point exactly. So what's the problem with nerfing the fjboots to what they were intended to be?

i dont see where you got your "comparisons," and im not even gonna ask.

Read the thread...someone came in after you and made the comparisons.

am i the only one here who realizes were talking about a spell that gives 55% run speed? nothing more.

Well...people are cancelling their accounts and starting up huge nag threads over it...

how about this... instead of this argument were having now, you anti-boot people just come up with ways that the boots were bad.

Just overpowered and completely not in-line with the original jboots. Maybe if this dropped on an PoTime rated raid or something I could possibly justify it...not off a pansy mob in a level 15 dungeon.

Good: Let pet casters make pets run faster to keep up and maybe someone else can sow the newbs now.

I think it would be great if SoE put a line of pet speed spells for all pet casters. Mages have Velocity...that should be expanded to necros and enchanters as well. Much more graceful solution than giving everyone in the game the ability to sow anyone.

The only unique thing about the boots' effect is the instant cast.

...and the ability to target others.

Players can get run 5 which is perminent, not dispellable and doesnt take up a buff slot. So who benefits most from the boots? pet classes. Ultimately everyone ends up with run 5 and the boots just become a fun toy for anyone but pet casters.

Were the original jboots ever meant to be used as pet sow? Why should the upgrade? Make them only work on personal pet only and I could justify them dropping off a crappy mob like "Fabled Drelzna."

Giving a class defining ability of druids/shamans/rangers to everyone in the game who bothers to camp it doesn't set off the spider sense?

What I don't understand is if shaman get sow before anyone else and it is soo class defining (our epic boots has clicky sow!) then why the fuck don't we get soe or foe and rangers/druids do? Druids don't get sow until 5 levels after us! Rangers don't get it until level 30!!!

It's like making a hybrid shaman/monk except the pet is better, the group buffs are better, they can mgb heals! that don't cost 0 instead of 3600 mana heal for triple the heal and give back 400 mana!! And how about an attack buff that's better too.. and lets add resists to the attack buff.. lol nah that wouldn't ever happen..

fuck jboots why'd they nerf the shaman =(

My fucking god you people are morons.

First off, Crist0

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It was an epic reward they added 15 hp<hr></blockquote>

<a href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3683" target="_new">Apprentice Ring</a>

That's one of the rewards from the Necro Epic.

I guess we should nerf every motherfucking ring better then that because it infringes on the rewards from the Necro Epic. Similarity to other items currently in existance should -never- fucking enter any kind of non-retarded conversation.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You're nitpicking here. There is no instaclick item that will let you instaclick invis on anyone you target...that was my main point.<hr></blockquote>

You're comparing SoW to invis? I'm going to pass this one off to you being impossibly drunk at the time of posting.

You do realize that SoW...instaclick or not...IS FUCKING USELESS POST 50. Nothing outside of GoD runs faster then run3 but slower then SoW. And if you have GoD you should have Run5 by now which completely obliterates the point of ever getting SoW. Fuck, I click off SoE because it takes a buff slot.

Now, recall that this item is also completely and utterly usless as an insta-click item vs. mobs that dispell. Why is that you say? First off, it can't be used indoors, OMG! And secondly, if you don't have jboots or a grim aura earring by this point in the game then you don't belong in a raiding guild.

So please tell me how SoW is a class defining ability when 4 classes get it and another class get's a special pet only version? That's probably one of the most moronic statements made so far this year.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Give me more examples of items where you can click somebody else free of cost with an ability your class doesn't have?<hr></blockquote>

<a href="http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=11911" target="_new">lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=11911</a>

And see invis is arguably a hell of a lot more helpful then SoW is. Hell, this one you can even cast indoors! Let's fucking nerf it. Not only that, but it's a hell of alot easier to get.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Casting invis is hardly a class defining ability.<hr></blockquote>

And you think SoW is? Let's see. Rangers, Druids, Shaman, Beastlords and Mages to an extent can cast SoW. Mages, Wizards, Enchanters, Druids and Shaman can cast Invis.

Christ. You make my teeth hurt.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sow > bind in the game at this point.<hr></blockquote>

I'm willing to bet you 1 gajillion pp that a melee person with GoD would rather have a right click bind item then a right click SoW item.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Again...the comparable item here would be one that instaclick TL to bind everyone in a raid.<hr></blockquote>

Nobody cares about the insta-click. The only use insta-click has nowadays is for dispelling mobs which only guilds who still do WToV dragons need, and barely at that since you can dodge most of the AE's if you don't suck. Get a shrunken goblin skull earring.

Secondly, you can -TRADE- gate potions! OMFG! I'm willing to bet if you asked melee if they'd rather have SoW potions or gate potions removed from the game, they'd say SoW potions. Why is that?

BECAUSE SOW IS USELESS SIR.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Verant has never been against giving abilities to other classes<hr></blockquote>

Here comes the clue train. Verant hasn't had anything to do with EQ since Velious.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It is self-only insta-click...just like the original jboots...just faster. <hr></blockquote>

And now, -completely- useless. Before, they had a use for Necromancers and Enchanters (mages/bst/sha can already sow their pets) and that was about it. They were only really camped for either the novelty of it (Bards, rangers etc...were camping them) or because it was at first an easier camp then ancient cyclops (took me 7 hours to get 3 pair, but I was one of the first ones at the camp).

And before you say how infinately more useful SoW is then run3, let me point out again that NOTHING in the fucking GAME outside of GATES OF DISCHORD runs faster then run3 but slower then SoW. -Nothing- And if you have GoD, then by now you should have Run5 (unless you're a warrior in an uber guild, because WA5/Stability 5 > Run5 and that's what, like nearly 100 AA? I mean christ...)

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In a purely RP sense, I think you should have to wear jboots to get the effect.<hr></blockquote>

What an excellent argument. Such genius...

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There is no instaclick item that will let you instaclick invis on anyone you target.<hr></blockquote>

That's because it would be too greifable. There's a reason you have to be grouped to cast invis, and that's because it kills pets. Youc an hand people invis potions anyways, or give them an item that let's them cast invis on themselves anyways.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My point exactly. So what's the problem with nerfing the fjboots to what they were intended to be?<hr></blockquote>

The point is the -only- use for this item pre-nerf was obliterated post-nerf, creating an -utterly- useless item. We're talking I carry a pearl necklace on me but not my fabled jboots because I can at least crack a joke about pearl necklaces whenever I'm around a woman acting like a whore.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Just overpowered and completely not in-line with the original jboots<hr></blockquote>

All this fabled shit is overpowered. In two days time I managed to get my twink shit that's almost as good as Ssra gear for fucks sake. The Fabled Ishva robe alone is better then anything that drops pre-emp/VT and is certainly much easier to get.

But that was the point! This stuff was supposed to be fun because it would only be around for a short time. Now at least one of the items is as worthless as the item it was supposed to upgrade.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I think it would be great if SoE put a line of pet speed spells for all pet casters. Mages have Velocity...that should be expanded to necros and enchanters as well. <hr></blockquote>

This item was that spell. That's all it was. There was no use for this item outside of that scope. The invention of these boots did not suddenly destroy the market for SoW in PoK because THERE WAS NONE.

You get Jboots until lvl 51, and then you get run 3. It's as simple as that. These boots created an imbalance -nowhere- in the spectrum of EQ today.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...and the ability to target others.<hr></blockquote>

So? Who the fuck needs SoW anymore? If you're 50+ you get SoE and if you're under 50 you're most likely a twink and camped these boots yourself anyways if you're getting the effect from it.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Were the original jboots ever meant to be used as pet sow? Why should the upgrade? <hr></blockquote>

Was the original Ishva Robe meant to give FT1 and ID4? Was the original Rokyls Channeling Crytstal meant to give buff duration 4 or whatever? Was the original BP from the King or whatever supposed to have 50+ AC? etc...etc...etc...

What a silly argument.

The only argument I could see is that this increased the DPS of necro pets by roughly 4 or 5 dps when kiting unsnarable mobs. Otherwise, it was just a nice effect to have so my pet wasn't so retarded whenever I had to cover long distances during a raid.

The fact it was nerfed was because everybody and their fucking uncle were camping this item for the sheer novelty of it.

Otherwise, it was just a nice effect to have so my pet wasn't so retarded whenever I had to cover long distances during a raid.

Suspend the fucker(unless one is already)..skip the camp :p

lol vhex juss wants to sow his slow ass pet lol

hey! if you aren't ment to have it, YOUR NOT MENT TO HAVE IT SO SHUT THE HELL UP VHEX YOU COCK MONGER

If you don't like what Sony does in regard to nerfing or adjusting items, why are you still playing the game? So they adjusted an item, how do you know it wasn't intended to be self only to begin with? It was probably an oversight that they corrected.

But then I have to click no-taunt and double-click my dagger Ibudin, as well as suspend/unsuspend it. I'm way too lazy for that. 8(

So they adjusted an item, how do you know it wasn't intended to be self only to begin with? It was probably an oversight that they corrected.

how did the people who put in the time to camp the item know ahead of time that it !!WASNT!! supposed to be that way?

i mean fuck the ishva robe has fucking ID4 and FT1... seems perfectly reasonable to have targetable sow on the upgraded jboots to me.

and hes right, its what ive been saying all along... the only actual use for the boots is now gone. they are a novelty item now. whoopty freakin doo a warrior can sow people!!! whee!!!!!

my point is, when the items went live, they all had a purpose. now the boots dont.

Goddamn, Vhex...I get the mental image of your face turning red and your neck veins throbbing as though you are letting out a 10 lb shit as you type that.

I probably should have ignored the guy who brought up all the examples you're getting pissed at me about...since all it became was fodder for your hysterical ranting.

Jboots have never worked on pets...why should fabled jboots? They were nerfed to their original intent...get the fuck over it.

Jboots have never worked on pets...why should fabled jboots?

read the first 2 lines in my last post.............................................. ................

Sony agrees with me. They added stuff to all the fabled items...targetted sow wasn't in-line for what they envisioned jboots or fabled jboots to do.

Maybe if they were called "Fabled Journeyman's Pet Boots" and only worked on pets...they would agree with you. Hell...*I* don't have a problem with it working on pets...because this really only benefits two classes... Enchanters and Necromancers.

I still don't think being able to instaclick sow on everyone was/is ever the intent for fabled jboots...again...this comes off a wimpy mob in a level 15 dungeon...

Man...a couple of you are really fucking hostile over a game. IMO it's obvious jboots never meant to have that effect...Sony realized this and fixed it. Regardless of how 3 of you feel...being able to instaclick sow on others has never been in the game, and at this point Sony has decided that it will not go into Everquest right now. Even the items that let you click sow on others are difficult to obtain. The *four* that I am aware of currently in game that are useable by non-sow classes (and don't have charges) are not instaclick and are available in either VT level encounters (Khati Sha the Twisted) or difficult to access high level areas (VP and Seru). There's one cloak I couldn't identify with right click sow, but it looks like it's a LDoN raid level item (Cloak of the Fleeting foot).

If you've got such a huge boner for clicking sow on others:

1) Kill Seru
2) Kill Druushk
3) Kill Khati Sha the Twisted
4) Do the right LDoN raid

...and quit bitching.

>If you've got such a huge boner for clicking sow on others:


hahaha you win

im really tripping ymy ass off right now haha but uill post what i think of the subject at the moment

this is a really gay subject and i agree we realize now that sony did infact intend for the boots to be self only sow, but the way the were to begin with was actually quite useful and didnt really need adustment. when the boots first came out though, just comparing them to other fabled items, i dont actually think it is correct to say that people should have seen it coming. targetable sow was a fairly nice upgrade to "fabled" status for the boots. honestly, i dont give a damn now... i can just fucking soe myself and do whatever the hell i want...

but my point was.. the boots were actually cool, though not the way sony intended and *IMHO* would have been cool if they left them in their original form.

now i know after the fact... yes indeed they were not inteded to be targetable, but i think it was a waste of SOE employee time to change them and infact actually irritated a fair amount of people.


sorry if i got carried away and insulted anyone or made an ass of myself... but these last few weeks havent put SOE in very good standing with me and I was kind of venting my anger..

...and quit bitching.

thats not cool man. people who actually camped the boots for a good reason have a right to complain, actually everyone does imo.. but whats done is done and hopefully sony will listen to the feedback and realize that some people found a truly good use for the boots in their original form and they will do add something, a spell maybe, to pick up the slack (haha ) =[