Fry you piece of shit.


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The chair's too quick and painless for that guy.

We should subcontract the Chinese penal system for these kinda bastards.

What about a good old fashioned "Draw and quarter"?

It's been years since that was done, I think we're overdue for one.

For those not in the know, basically you get four horses and four sturdy ropes. Tie one end of each rope to a horse, the other end to the legs and arms of said victim.

Then, spook the horses. A lot. See what happens.

They need to turn him loose on an island with a team of people hunting his ass like a game animal.

Then let him catch a .308 in the sack before they finish him off.

Get him really drunk, then wake him up 3 hours later, tie a penis to his rope and have a horse pull it off then let him bleed to death while his blood is still thin.

You people are too humane...get a 2 steel pots...3 rats. Take the largest and put the rats in side then turn them upside down and tie it in place...drill a few holes in it. Then you take the other pot and place it right side up on the first pot and fill that 1 with REALLY hot live coals...use you imagination as to what the rats will do when they get hot.

Masturbate? It's what I do when I get hot. Like when Shew takes off his shirt in public. Oh man.

tie a penis to his rope? :P

National bukkake on him. Then let him die from the humiliation (and the STDs).

Baltyn's seen 2 fast 2 furious, 2 much.

nope, never seen that movie. The rat thing goes WAY back.

'They need to turn him loose on an island with a team of people hunting his ass like a game animal.
Then let him catch a .308 in the sack before they finish him off. '

- Ah, the civilized west.

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OK lets here what you would propose we do with this person

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Translation: I like little boys more then Jacko.

OK lets here what you would propose we do with this person

Put him on a fucking plane to England.

They'll just ship him off to aussie-land.

or put him in their government

I realize this thread is old, but I don't give a shite.

I have no idea who the hell you guys are talking about.
but, when your megalomania drains from your brains.
Maybe you can justify taking somebody's life for me?

Doesn't your money say "in god we trust"?
well then trust he can make the decision to end life himself.

Killing people is murder, it will never be justice.

READ THE FUCKING NEWS BEFORE YOU START WITH YOUR GAY ASS HUMAN RIGHTS COMMENTS.

This fucking guy went on a sniper rampage killing a shitload of people, and shooting a kid. He's out of his mind along with his little brainwashed spotter/trigger man.

Too bad those .223/5.56 rounds didn't split your kids head.

Though I'm sure you'd take it like the bitch that you are.

Get the fuck off your high horse.

If he is given life. It's a fucking blessing.. As that jackass rapist/murderer in Montana proved, these people can't be "fixed" and reinserted into the world. THEY FUCKED UP BIGTIME. End of story.

Not to mention that we have to PAY to keep him alive.

Human rights comments?
I'm not saying anything about his rights. He forfeited those rights at the time of firing the first bullet.

I'm saying murdering a murderer is bullshit, and doesn't make any sense.. Nobody has the right to make the decision to take somebody's life, nobody is that powerful.

and I'm sorry you guys are so fucking stupid that you would let a convicted rapist/murderer back into your society.

and if some fuck shot my kid in the head, yeah, I'd murder him.. but it would be vengeance, not "justice". Big fucking difference.

oh yeah.. and;
Though I'm sure you'd take it like the bitch that you are.
Until I see your face on the news for going out and killing this guy yourself because you obviously feel so bad for the loss of these people's lives, take a look in the mirror before you call somebody a bitch.
I'm not the geek sitting on the net talking about murdering somebody when I don't have the nuts to do it myself.

Oh great, another activist I need to take and give a tour to. Let me show you some of the fine folks I work with and then you decide what justice is. Death is too good for those assholes. I hope they fry that damn kid as well. That kid knew exactly what he was doing. I can't wait until his eye pop out of his head when the pull the switch.

I'm not an activist...

I'm trying to say you Americans are fucking retards with a major issue with Megalomania.

I don't care what the fuck johny_american did to end up in jail.
The fact still remains, you are all humans, not gods. leave the decision of taking life to your higher ups.

fuck you people make me sick.

In summation:

Mraaa, you make me sick, killing people instead of letting them rot in jail for years and years, mraaa.

Hell, if given the choice between death, and life in jail, kill me now.

I'm glad your life is worth so much to you.

Ahh yes, because all those accomplishments will mean so much... IN JAIL.

Fucktard.

hey, no need to snap at me because you have suicidal thoughts..

Just remember, suicide and murder are both sins! So I'll see you in hell!

Are you really this stupid?

Ah, the good old capital punishment debate.

Put him away for life and hope he doesn't kill another inmate or a guard or put him to death and take the risk he might be innocent.

Hmmmm. I'll leave it up to the jury and judge to decide and not try to second guess them since I was not at the trial or privy to the evidence.

Personally, if I was sure he was guilty I would not hesitate to support a death sentence. If I had any doubt whatsoever, I would give him life without parole.

This is one of those sticky topics for which I feel there is no good answer. Innocent people have been executed and people who were sentenced to life have gone on to kill other people both inside prison and out.

how is me not agreeing with Americans thinking they have the divine right to take somebody's life stupid?

no need to snap at me because you have suicidal thoughts

Now it's clear you are this stupid.

Hell, if given the choice between death, and life in jail, kill me now

that's a suicidal thought, no?
oh you stupid fuck, oh how stupid you are..

Given the choice between living your life, and being able to talk to people you care for/about.. you'd rather die because you are a selfish fuck.
People like you deserve to be killed, so useless.

The fact still remains, you are all humans, not gods. leave the decision of taking life to your higher ups

As members of a society, we agree to live within the laws of that society. When someone breaks that law, the society has a right to punish them.

Capital punishment has had some problems in our country, and the thought of killing an innocent person for a crime they did not commit is enough to chill my blood- but I'm not against it.

Oh, and to feed your meglomaniac views of the residents of the United States:
There is no god. There is no power higher than our own.

Just remember, suicide and murder are both sins! So I'll see you in hell!

No such thing as sin... but if you can tell me WHEN and WHY the Catholic Church decided to make suicide a sin, I'll think ( ) that much more of you.

There's a difference between suicide and execution. Life imprisonment is LIFE inprisonment. What if it were a lifetime slow torture sentence... would preferring execution make one suicidal?

Innocent or not, I'm sure many would prefer death over lifetime inprisonment... as to them it would be a form of torture.

that's a suicidal thought, no

No. Suicide is when you kill yourself. Suicide is for little pussies who claim depression when they're girlfriends have affairs, or retarded artists and goths who want to show how tortured their souls are.

I hope you're faced with the choice some day. I hope you pick rotting in jail. It's really not so bad, other than being raped and beaten half the time. They even let you go outside...

Yay.

Fucktard.

And besides, no one worth talking to would go visit that shithead in jail.

We'll even let you see movies on the weekends..LOL

Seriously. USA=god=we kill who we please. Have a nice day.

omg, this shall be fun fun fun :D

I hope you're faced with the choice some day. I hope you pick rotting in jail. It's really not so bad, other than being raped and beaten half the time. They even let you go outside...

that's just the thing you idiot, I wouldn't end up in jail.. I'm not a murderer.

Oh, and to feed your meglomaniac views of the residents of the United States:
There is no god. There is no power higher than our own.


Thanks, I needed atleast 1 of you idiots to say something stupid that would make the rest of your country look like unintelligent fucks :D

No such thing as sin... but if you can tell me WHEN and WHY the Catholic Church decided to make suicide a sin, I'll think ( ) that much more of you.

I'm not catholic, or even christian for that matter, so I don't care. But since we are on the topic.. Go slit your fuckin throat, tell me what the afterlife is like. obviously it's no issue to you.

There's a difference between suicide and execution. Life imprisonment is LIFE inprisonment. What if it were a lifetime slow torture sentence... would preferring execution make one suicidal?

why wouldn't you want the person to be tortured for their crimes intead of just being dead? ...

Seriously. USA=god=we kill who we please. Have a nice day.

with shit like that pouring out of your mouths, it's no wonder people all over the world want to fly planes into your fucking cities.

Being dead is cheaper. You know how much I make? I could keep the guy on the verge for days and days. thats alot of OT for my state. Looks better on the budget to just off em.

I'm not a murderer either, it was a hypothetical situation in the first place.

By there is no power higher than our own, he meant humans, you fucking idiot. Try and prove him wrong then.

You're pretty violent for not wanting us to kill anyone. Why is it so easy for you to tell someone to kill themselves? Tell them their lives aren't worth living? If you convince someone to kill themselves, how is it different than murder?

Why do you want them to, Mr. Kumbaya?

Why do you want them to, Mr. Kumbaya?

yeah, I am pretty violent.. but atleast I'm not a mental midget. you seem to have missed my point. Being an american I can see how that would be hard since you probably can't fucking read properly.

I was saying this;
Taking a life and claiming it "justice" is wrong.
Taking a life out of vengeance, is also wrong.. but atleast you know you are doing something wrong.

and if you don't believe there is a higher power than our own, that's for you to decide, I'm sorry you don't believe in a "god"

Calling us mental cripples, then spouting this:

I'm not catholic, or even christian for that matter, so I don't care. But since we are on the topic.. Go slit your fuckin throat, tell me what the afterlife is like. obviously it's no issue to you

A: Sin is a judeo-christian concept. Are you Jewish? If not, shut up about sin.

b: Why would I slit my throat? There is no afterlife, just what we have now- one life, nothing more. I'm not about to end mine a second early- in fact I'll cling to what I have with every fiber of my being. I'm not afraid of oblivion, but I don't crave it, either.

In fact, my very rejection of the concept of an afterlife makes capital punishment all the more of a strong topic for me. Some- those who believe in some otherworldly judgement and life after death- might wash their hands clean of the act, saying they are "passing the soul onto its just reward" or something along that line.

I take the tract that we- you, me, your boss, the lady down the street- all of us- are responsible for our own actions. If we choose to take someone's life, it is the most serious, and most final choice we can make. At that point, you are not only responsible for your own actions, you are also responsible for taking away someone else's ability to choose their own actions forever.

In the case of capital punishment (at least in my view) this can only be done when it is apparent that left to themselves, the person in question would choose to (do whatever crime it was) again. Rapists can still rape and murders can still murder in prison.

A couple points.....

If you are making a post slamming Americans for being illiterate, please try and do so using correct punctuation. The first letter of the first word of each sentence should be capitalized. Americans should also be capitalized. My understanding is that these rules are true in most if not all western languages currently in use, so the fact that English is not your first language is not an excuse.

Secondly, if you want to make a point, it helps not to contradict that point. If it is wrong for an American to wish death on someone, it is wrong for you as well.

Congratulations. You have now made my list of people I will no longer waste time (after this post) responding to.

I have no religion.
I believe in god, and live my life.. I don't play by the rules, but I do believe some of the rules are too sacred to be fucked with.

I take the tract that we- you, me, your boss, the lady down the street- all of us- are responsible for our own actions. If we choose to take someone's life, it is the most serious, and most final choice we can make. At that point, you are not only responsible for your own actions, you are also responsible for taking away someone else's ability to choose their own actions forever.

finally somebody with some brains!
we are yes responsible for our own actions, I agree.
taking somebody's life is yes the most serious choice we could ever make.
nobody has the right to take away somebody elses ability to choose their actions, correct.

so, how are you going to justify the person who pulls the switch pulling the switch?

Rapists can still rape and murders can still murder in prison.
I don't see your issue with this..
I understand the rape part, rapists should rot in a hole.
but, why would you give a shit if a murderer murdered another murderer? I am pretty sure you guys keep your murderers away from your car thieves.. You are saying "let's just kill them, they deserve to die", well why not let them rot in jail and have to watch their back because the other 100 people in there who did the same shit they did might kill them too?

If it is wrong for an American to wish death on someone, it is wrong for you as well.

didn't say that was wrong, god damnit do you people not fucking read!?

I don't care if you want to go out and sling up somebody, kill them all you want, but to try to justify it by saying it's "justice" is fucking stupid.

Killing people is wrong, I know this, you know this, we all know this.

finally somebody with some brains!
Odd, you were just remarking about how stupid my ideas were a few posts ago.

so, how are you going to justify the person who pulls the switch pulling the switch?

If killing one person saves the life of others, I can justify it. See below.

I understand the rape part, rapists should rot in a hole.
but, why would you give a shit if a murderer murdered another murderer? I am pretty sure you guys keep your murderers away from your car thieves.. You are saying "let's just kill them, they deserve to die", well why not let them rot in jail and have to watch their back because the other 100 people in there who did the same shit they did might kill them too

Because everyone in that hole might not be the same- thing is, to a large degree, we *don't* keep our car thieves away from the murderers. Sure, the death row inmates are in red jumpers and kept away from the others (at least in Central Prison in Raleigh, NC, the only prison with a death row I've ever walked around), but a regular murderer doing 25-life might be walking around in general population if he has been in a while and is a model prisoner.

Also, in our fucked up justice system, it is possible for someone who never perpetrated a violent crime to spend their entire life in jail due to some patently stupid sentencing minimums for drug crimes.

Think someone who got busted for posession of cocaine three times deserves to have a shiv stuck in their back?

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I am pretty sure you guys keep your murderers away from your car thieves..

Oh im sorry not points for you. Nope our convicts are all mixed. Tax evaders live with serial killers and so on and so forth. Diaper snipers live with drug dealers. You just have to love "The Population".

your prison system is fucked..
that is all.

It's a prison. What do you want? A nice eutopian version where all prisoner classifications live with like classifications? Well, do you realize how many facilities that would have to be? How much that would take? Canada does not even do that. You have a very unrealistic view on the worlds penal system. Heh i said penal...LOLOMFG!!1!one!!won!

Ack,culture shock :(

There are some good points and issues among all the pointless flames.

I watched a program called 'Bowling for columbine' It was about the impact culture has on violence in our society's,mainly American.If you haven`t seen it you really should take the time to watch it,i found it very interesting.

My own opinions on capital punishment are pretty much the same as Xanaron's.No human has the authority to decide to take someone's life and call it 'Justice'

Imo we are all products of our society and up-bringing, i feel that americans tend to have a harder line on these things because of the huge amount of violence in their culture and the fact that most accept it as 'the norm'
I have alot of contempt for 'The law' as a whole but feel that it is needed to keep order.Alot of laws are complete BS,and the amount of power given to judges and the penal system appals me,truth be told.

To the person who puts their faith in the courts,i`ll say this.Courts are run by humans,and as such are utterly prone to corruption and fallibility.

Bowling was interesting you say?

Then you need to read the truth. (http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/)


Imo we are all products of our society and up-bringing

your kidding right? even if i were a crack whore living in a slum I could still learn right from wrong. This argument of we are products of our environment only goes so far. You either know right from wrong or you don't. Where/how/when you were brought up has nothing to do with that.

saying you are a product of your own society is kinda a chicken shit thing to say..

too quote myself...
"Nobody can make decisions for you, or force you to do anything. The way you end up is not a product of your environment, it's a product of your choices"

Aesa-

Yes courts are fallible. They are also the only viable alternative unless you espouse mob rule.

If you can never rely on them, why have them at all?

Personally I trust them to get it right more often than they get it wrong (even in America).

As far as capital punishment, there are many arguments pro and con. It all basically boils down to whether or not you are willing to take the risk you are safeguarding society by killing someone.

By not putting a particularly dangerous killer to death, you are accepting a certain amount of risk that he will kill again before he dies of old age. By executing a convict, you are risking the chance that he was convicted wrongly. Is it better to risk one over the other? That is what everyone must decide for themselves.

Well.
Even though im not wild about the death Penalty.. I "can" see it necessary in some instances..
Its not about "justice" in the traditional terms.
Justice implies that things are made right, Victims are made whole and the perpertrator serves his debt and there is a reasonable chance of rehabilitation.
In some cases this is not possible.. Nothing can ever make it "right" again, there is no possible way to serve the debt to society and no way to ever rehabilitate.
www.murdervictims.com/Voi...neliz.html (http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html)

It becomes a question of Self Defense for society. Society has a right to protect itself. But the crime against society is so heinous, so terrible that it is unconscible for the state to ask people to support these people for the rest of their natural lives.

"Nobody can make decisions for you, or force you to do anything. The way you end up is not a product of your environment, it's a product of your choices"

No,but our decisions can be influenced by certain factors,therefore our choices are at least partially a product of our enviroment up-bringing.
Do you think that a child who grew up with no role model to learn from during childhood and without proper guidence would know what society considers right and wrong ?

your kidding right? even if i were a crack whore living in a slum I could still learn right from wrong. This argument of we are products of our environment only goes so far. You either know right from wrong or you don't. Where/how/when you were brought up has nothing to do with that.

Again i must disagree,people don`t just 'know' what people consider right from wrong.They are taught it,just as we teach our children lessons.Parents out there should know what i`m referring too.

That`s like someone expecting you to know that type of clothes are considered 'normal' having never been told or shown.
Societys views on right from wrong are constantly changing,in your own country many people were killed in salem because a bunch of girls liked the power that telling those stories gave them.
Hundreds of years ago it was considered normal to have a 13-14 year old bride,today people would consider you a pervert to suggest such a thing.See what i mean ?

,people don`t just 'know' what people consider right from wrong.They are taught it

Bingo! You got it! Except I have a little more faith in humanity then to suggest that it's there environment that teaches them its ok to steal. Sorry but even the most deprived peoples on earth are still tought right from wrong. When it comes down the the very basics of it its still a choice after all.

To the person who puts their faith in the courts,i`ll say this.Courts are run by humans,and as such are utterly prone to corruption and fallibility.

This guy was caught with the smoking gun. He is a perfect example of what capital punishment should be used for.

Only thing better would be to let the husband of the wife who had her brains blow about HomeDepots parking lot to beat every fucking inch of life out of him with a baseball bat, then fry his ass. I could care less how we "Americans" are percieved from little Xanabitch.

I don't share your views and you can spin this around as much as you want..won't change my feelings and I dont expect you to change yours either. This is how I see and will continue to see it. Call me ignorant for my views, I'll call you ignorant for your views. Its all the same my friend but you end someones life as this guy did in a state that has capital punishment..expect to die, plain and simple.

Eye for an eye.

Only thing better would be to let the husband of the wife who had her brains blow about HomeDepots parking lot to beat every fucking inch of life out of him with a baseball bat

That is an interesting idea,one i have often mused upon.When thinking about capital punishment i tend to get the idea of allowing the freinds/familys of the victims their vengence,but it`s still basically the same thing as murder.
Now just let me make this clear,if some bastard killed my mother/sister etc There`s a pretty big chance that i would get vengence just like you said,an eye for an eye.This still doesn`t change the fact that imo it is wrong.

You can scoff all you like,but at the end of the day our values are taught to us by a number of things.We arn`t built in genetically with this knowledge,i`ve been taught that it is wrong to take life no matter what the circumstances.You`ve been taught that if the person has done enough,they deserve it.This is a difference in factors,parents,peers,enviroment,etc.They all play a part in influencing our values and morals.

being the world renowned communist king of zimbabwe, i say shooting squad...no not for the sniper, but for xanaron...ah what the hell, throw in the sniper too.

if you kill people, why do you deserve to live =/ personally, i dont think you do, you may disagree but i am the king of zimbabwe! FOOL

Ok I am a bit confused, is it ok to kill someone while defending yourself. say for example someone breaks into your home and has a gun, do you have the right to kill that person?

Take it a step further, your on the streets and you see someone killing people with a rifle, do you have the right to kill this person to stop them?

Now take that a step further, you have someone in jail, they have killed 10 people violently, do you have the right to kill him? or is he no longer a threat because he is behind bars, are you sure there is no way for him to escape? and if he were to escape, can you be certain that he/she will not kill again?

Capital punishment is used to ensure that person is no longer a threat to anyone, because once you are dead you cant kill anyone ever again. does that make it right, maybe maybe not, but it is a solution to which you dont have to worry about the person ever again.

why wouldn't you want the person to be tortured for their crimes intead of just being dead? ... Wether they go to jail for the rest of their life, are tortured for the rest of their life or are simply killed the important thing is that the offender is removed from the situation where they can cause harm.

You could argue that torture or life inprisonment could be used as a deterrent for such crimes, moreso than the death penalty for some. Suicidal folks for example - one might choose go out in a murderous rampage if they knew theyd get the chair for their crimes, but what if they were facing 40 years of torture?.

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