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Moglor
10-01-2005, 08:15 PM
Just went and saw Serenity which is a great movie btw even if you havent seen Firefly.. Great action and suttle humor.. I liked alot, but the movie got me intrigued about the tv series..
Anyone know where to download the firefly series? or maybe where I should look? TY!
Kanyli
10-01-2005, 08:26 PM
Good action flick? Anything in it that I could use to talk my wife into going?
So it's based off Firefly? I thought that was just another earth based scifi series, full of mystery and x-files type stuff? I ah, don't have cable, so I don't get the good channels anymore.
Moglor
10-01-2005, 09:42 PM
It's a great movie and yes its based off of Firefly the Tv series that was cancelled after one season but I hope to god it comes back because it was really good but I love most of Joss Whedon's works.
It has good action scenes... lets just say the girl named River is bread to be a lethal weapon and she kicks some major ass... The humor is great just because its not a abrasive humor its just very suttle... All original Cast is in the Movie from Firefly.. You dont have ot be a fan of Firefly or even know what Firefly is to understand this movie.
And to Answer your question Kanyli.. Just say theres a girl that kicks everyone's ass... Whenever its a girl who is the asskicker it seems to make my girlfriend want to see it more then say when its a guy.
Roliel
10-01-2005, 09:58 PM
Moglor, you might want to edit your first post a bit.. even if it's really not all that much of a surprise, some might consider it a spoiler. Should probably include a warning at the beginning of the post.
Moglor
10-01-2005, 10:02 PM
done
Thormir
10-02-2005, 02:49 AM
Planning to see Serenity tomorrow. Firefly was a good show handled terribly by Fox (for example, they didn't bother showing the pilot as a...pilot). Fox wanted a Buffy clone, Joss wanted to tell a new kind of story...long story short, it didn't work out.
The Firefly DvD includes all aired and unaired shows and a few extras...it's worth getting if you like a decent, smart and witty sci-fi flick. Think of a cross between Stagecoach (the old John Wayne flick) and the anime Cowboy Bebop, add Joss Whedon style dialogue, and you have Firefly. Good stuff.
Maniacles
10-02-2005, 04:10 PM
Great premise. Great story. Great dialogue. Just...
The casting continues to be the problem.
Biggest casting mistake: The Bonafide Concubine. Just not hot enough. It's sad but true that for sci fi to work properly, a leading lady just has to be droolworthy. If they used the chick from the pirate episode (where they saved the girl who ended up sabataging the ship) instead, the series might have survived. (She might not have had the acting chops, however).
Casting misfires: I like the captain. It's just he can't quite sell the sudden attitude changes of when he's being a badass captain vs being the heart of gold guy. He's too obviously a heart of gold guy. Ben Bowder does this much better in farscape, and his character wasn't nearly as hardcore as the dialogue for this captain suggest he should be.
The doctor, on the other hand, has the opposite problem, there's not even the little bit of charisma to latch on to understand the engineer's crush on him.
The pilot was just annoying. Reminded me too much of Hercules's sidekick (was it the same actor? hellifiknow).
Casting hits: River. Creepy as all hell, and sells the psychotic. The engineer. Cute as all hell, and sells the hardware talk. The black chick, competent, sells the quiet commando.
Casting home runs: Jayne, who is pretty much the reason to watch the show, because every other actor is more interesting when they interact with him.
Moglor
10-02-2005, 04:58 PM
Great premise. Great story. Great dialogue. Just...
The casting continues to be the problem.
Biggest casting mistake: The Bonafide Concubine. Just not hot enough. It's sad but true that for sci fi to work properly, a leading lady just has to be droolworthy. If they used the chick from the pirate episode (where they saved the girl who ended up sabataging the ship) instead, the series might have survived. (She might not have had the acting chops, however).
Casting misfires: I like the captain. It's just he can't quite sell the sudden attitude changes of when he's being a badass captain vs being the heart of gold guy. He's too obviously a heart of gold guy. Ben Bowder does this much better in farscape, and his character wasn't nearly as hardcore as the dialogue for this captain suggest he should be.
The doctor, on the other hand, has the opposite problem, there's not even the little bit of charisma to latch on to understand the engineer's crush on him.
The pilot was just annoying. Reminded me too much of Hercules's sidekick (was it the same actor? hellifiknow).
Casting hits: River. Creepy as all hell, and sells the psychotic. The engineer. Cute as all hell, and sells the hardware talk. The black chick, competent, sells the quiet commando.
Casting home runs: Jayne, who is pretty much the reason to watch the show, because every other actor is more interesting when they interact with him.
The Pilot is not the hercules sidekick guy and he doesnt even look or act anywhere NEAR who you say he is... not to mention hes british, you might remember him in Knights Tale with Heath Ledger.
I only need to reply to your comment just because of the fact that the whole idea the leading Lady has to be a model is just sad and is why tv this day in age is all about finding the hottest people you can and show them having sex... and btw if you really think she is bad.. then you are wayyyyyyy to freaking picky in RL i bet.
Rybit
10-02-2005, 05:14 PM
Very good movie other than the fact that they mix in random Chinese symbols and hiragana/katakana. If you look carefully in the movie, you will notice an odd mix of Asian culture: chopsticks holder, dimsum, scrolled calligraphy and paintings, tea cups, noticeable influences from Sun Tzu and Bushido, and of course the random Chinese symbols they throw in.
Anyway, the characters on the ship's name is 寧靜 (traditional) or 宁静 (simplified). It means "calm" or "peace." In Mandarin Chinese, it is pronounced ning2jing4, or in 注音符號,ㄋㄧㄥˊㄐㄧㄥˋ. The Japanese pronunciation is open up to interpretation because 寧 is not a character used in Modern Japanese.
It makes sense, because from what I hear, the United States and China are super powers in the future...
Greystone Thorngage
10-03-2005, 07:45 AM
Joss Whedon in the Box Set for the TV shot (which i highly recommend) gives reasons for the mixed culture. He goes into how China, Japan lead the way along with the US in space colinization and that the cultures mixed. He also joke that it was a easy way to "cuss" on cable and not get hit up by the FCC
Fandros
10-03-2005, 08:29 AM
I've seen the series in it's entirety lately on Sci Fi.
Man did I ever miss out on a good series first time around. ;(
Reason it failed...like many well written but off beat shows it's far too intelligent for the common masses that are generally happy with "Reality TV".
I'm rather hoping the movie spurns Sci Fi to order more episodes.
Fandros
Thormir
10-03-2005, 09:56 AM
Sci-Fi Channel isn't in a position to order episodes or otherwise restart production. Fox holds the rights to the series and, from what I've heard, will do so for 10 years from the cancellation date. Adam Baldwin (Jayne) addressed this at a DragonCon panel, saying, "It's extremely unlikely" that Firefly has a future as a TV series. The best we can hope for is a trilogy of movies. If Serenity hits 80+ million worldwide, you can expect sequels.
Moglor
10-03-2005, 12:11 PM
Funny thing I saw when I typed in Firefly in Google it came up with a couple websites dedicated to making sure people go and see the movie as many times as they can to guarantee a sequel.. they are even telling people to convince people to give them there ticket for a different movie and thyey will give them a serenity ticket for free... its kinda weird.
giena
10-03-2005, 12:43 PM
I'm a big fan of the series and as such, went to see Serenity on opening day.
I was not at all disappointed! I was sad and quiet a few times in the movie, as those of you who have seen it will know exactly what I'm talking about.
I can only hope that the dipshits at Fox come to their senses and let Whedon bring it back, or agree to let Sci Fi produce it.
Oh, go see the movie again!! All of you! We need 2 and 3!!
Moglor
10-04-2005, 02:17 PM
I also hope that the show comes back at some point and you never know because Buffy was first created as a movie and because of its popularity turned into a cult phenom.. So heres to hoping.. allthough I gotta say they better not take the show and add it on to the movie series just because I like the guy who piloted the ship :(.. He has good humor.
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