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Shewdogg
07-21-2003, 05:23 AM
I'm starting a campaign called. N.A.C.W.B.W.W.M. (Niggas against crazy white bitches who want money)

This shit is out of control. The chick can't make it on American Idol so her ass has to sleep with a basketball star and call it rape. Shit has to be done, this is like that one episode of Beverly Hills 90210 where that one crazy bitch was trying to accuse Steve of rape.

And before you start jumping to conclusions about me, well fuck you, and I think OJ killed Nicole Brown.

OMG I just posted in the RL thread :(


FREE KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!

Akom of Cazic Thule
07-21-2003, 07:27 AM
I spiked Shew's cigaretts.

Ibudin
07-21-2003, 12:37 PM
He was slated as the "3rd" Marketable person in the world behind Michael J and Tiger Woods. What the hell was he thinking! Even if it was consensual and not rape you have way to much to loose. Same thing happen to Mark Shumura from the Packers on a much lesser scale of course. No matter if you can beat the case or not, you are 1/3 the star you once was.


Ibudin

valorindel
07-21-2003, 02:01 PM
Have you seen his wife? Why in the hell would you be out snooping for some strange when you have that at home? Some things baffle me to no end. But I agree, I think she is just setting him up. Of course it isn't like he didn't let himself be put into a position to be set up in the first place.

Dartaignon
07-21-2003, 02:34 PM
It's to the point where you have to force a signature on a contract saying she is consenting to having sex.

K a h l a EQ
07-21-2003, 03:05 PM
As a huge Basketball fan I've been on top of this story, and not sure how its going to go. Considering the high profile nature of the case there is no way the evidance comes down to he said she said. Obviously the DA has physical evidance of some form of Assult.

On the other hand I tend to side with Kobe and as much as I despise him as a player cause I'm a die hard VC fan I due hope he wins this case.

Lastly I feel bad for the girl at the moment. She is getting crucified and who knows she might be telling the truth and thats for a court to decide but on my local BBall website I post on they had links to pictures of her from College or highschool not sure which and even more alarming some asshat had put up her phone number up on the web.

Hopefully it all gets settled and the lakers still lose! :)

aelani
07-21-2003, 03:19 PM
What the fuck does it matter he'll just get away with it like O.J dicksmack Simpson.

MarzMartini
07-21-2003, 05:16 PM
With the amount of power and money Kobe has, I wouldn't be suprised that he DID do it. That type of power corrupts. But this amount of press and stupid bullshit going on is uncalled for. Everyone fucks up.

I met him once at LAX along with Rick Fox and some others, and he seemed like a pretty nice guy.

I've heard from friends who ran into him at a club that he was very arrogant, and stuck up.

K a h l a EQ
07-21-2003, 05:30 PM
Apperently the girl who is accusing him OD'ed a couple months ago.

Willgatus Airslasher
07-21-2003, 05:33 PM
Plenty of people get accused of rape - guilty or not.

But libel or defamation or whatever the proper term is? Sure, it might dent the guy's paycheck, but he will still get more millions per year than you can shake a stick at; in addition, he'll probably compensate by writing a book afterwards.

As for loss of respect and such... he's a fucking grown man who throws a ball around for a living in a game that is slightly more strategically intensive than Pong (and about as repetitive), devoid of entertaining injuries, and as fun to watch as it is to rub your ass against a cheese grater.

Oh, and 110% /agree with Val.

Lleauric
07-21-2003, 06:01 PM
Its not an easy situation...

I remember when I was in college and an Athlete... No where even approaching the level that Kobe is on... but I can relate on a low level..
Now keep in mind.. while Im a semi attractive guy (at least my wife thinks so =)).. I was by no means a star player.. or someone destined for the NFL.. but I played.. people knew me.. people would stop me on campus on the way to class, professors would talk before or after class about the team.. small semi pseudo celeb status in the small campus world..

Well.. anyway.. this is before I met the love of my life..

We had what we called 'cleat chasers', basically girls who most dudes on the team could or would fuck. Some would hang around the white guys.. some would hang around the black guys.. but they were basically all the same.
If you let yourself get involved in that.. it could get pretty hairly.. cause, basically, any girl who would do what these girls would do, would be basically mental anyway.

We had this girl who we called "the Cellar Dwellar".... she would do guys 2, 3 , 4 at a time... whatever.. complete freak. When we had recruits in from high schools who we wanted to get to come to the campus.. we would take them down to her late night, after the parties.. and she would do em all.
I remember walking in the room.. she had 3 on the bed.. blowing one.. and skiing with the other 2 while another was hitting her from the rear.. This dude was shitting in the corner, and about 12 guys were watching..
I remember thinking.. "damn.. if she wanted to.. some tears and a 2 minute story = the entire football team and recruits doing 15 years for a gang rape." So I got the fuck out of there as fast as I could, cause it freaked me out.

But there were normal girls too.. I remember coming home to my frat from a party and there is this girl in front of my door.. cleat chaser.. I barely knew her.. but I get there and she tells me she wants to fuck, and she wants it rough.. now.. I obliterated on Tequila.. and Im not thinking straight.. So Im like.."ok".. At this point I was benching around 425 and had a 750 pound squad.. so I was powerful dude.. I open my door.. Take her by the shoulders and throw her across the room on to my bed.. I got lucky that she wasnt hurt.. and she liked it.. but it was another one of those cases...

Its a fine line.. when your an athlete pussy is thrown in face from all directions.. the bigger you are.. the more is thrown..
Did Kobe do it?
I dont know... but its a wierd world

ThePerfectFlaw
07-21-2003, 06:05 PM
Wow....was it like gnome tossing?

mirdorr
07-21-2003, 06:30 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Temptation, temptation, temptation. Blah blah blah.

You can say yes or no. It's that simple. Sure, I'm older and more mature than Kobe. He chose to date a teenager and marry her (and apparently his parents may have stopped talking to him as a result). He chose to at least chat this Colorado girl up. He probably chose to invite her into his room. He chose to have sex with her.

Dartaignon
07-21-2003, 07:13 PM
I think they only did that in Band Zehn

:rollin

Crist0
07-21-2003, 08:42 PM
I feel as sorry for Kobe as I felt for Magic Johnson getting AIDS after sticking his dick in anything that moved.

Lleauric
07-21-2003, 09:04 PM
I think someone, >cough<Cristo>cough< ,is a Celtics fan here....

aelani
07-21-2003, 09:05 PM
Toss him in jail .... do him good to have his skinny not talent ass gang raped see how he likes it and FUCK innocent til proven guilty make an example of the fuck.

That is all!

Trikki
07-21-2003, 09:48 PM
Wow LL! 425lb bench and 750lb squat!! You are such a man! /Swooooon :rolleyes You're not nearly as cool as you seem to think you are, I would wager.

:evil

Esbat
07-21-2003, 10:33 PM
I think L2 was just illustrating that he was easily the physical superior to the woman in question- or at least would have been to a jury if the shit hit the fan, which is all that matters, really.

Anyhow, I'm sure many of us could tell stories about how buff we were in our prime. When you get old (if you make it that long) you'll understand.

Lleauric
07-21-2003, 10:38 PM
That was long ago Trikki... so as disappointed as I am that your faggoty Mangina ass isnt swooning over me.. Ill recover..

Dont bench or squat much these days... mostly jog for a work out.. but thats besides the point

Thanks for comprehending Amorach.

Trikki
07-21-2003, 10:55 PM
Well, their is no reason to be rude. ;)

:evil

ThePerfectFlaw
07-22-2003, 03:04 AM
Nope. I've always been a pussy.

*nods*

Pinches Giyems
07-22-2003, 07:42 AM
Same thing happen to Mark Shumura from the Packers on a much lesser scale of course. No matter if you can beat the case or not, you are 1/3 the star you once was.

Best thing about that is it happened at my school hahaha

ainwein
07-22-2003, 08:28 AM
Toss him in jail .... do him good to have his skinny not talent ass gang raped see how he likes it and FUCK innocent til proven guilty make an example of the fuck.

That is all!

Why do you insist on embarassing yourself with every idiotic post you make?

Kobe Bryant has no talent and we should abolish 'innocent until proven guilty'. What's next?

aelani
07-22-2003, 02:46 PM
Nuff Said What is next?

Killing stupid fucks like you? Maming your children to avoid the blood line continuing? Hanging your parents for not drowning you at birth? All kinds of things can come next. oh and fucktard did I say abolsih? NO I said make an example out of him -- learn to read asslejack learn to read.

Ainwein vs. Reading Comprehension = FUTILE! piss off!

Winterworg
07-22-2003, 02:50 PM
I like Asslejacks.

valorindel
07-22-2003, 04:32 PM
But they don't taste like assles!?!

BD Nightfall
07-22-2003, 04:40 PM
FUCK innocent til proven guilty

Sounds like you want to abolish it... Who knows, though. You could just be a complete idiot and not realize what you're saying and proceed to tell other people they have poor reading comprehension.

Have a nice day.

ainwein
07-22-2003, 09:07 PM
Nuff Said What is next?

Killing stupid fucks like you? Maming your children to avoid the blood line continuing? Hanging your parents for not drowning you at birth? All kinds of things can come next. oh and fucktard did I say abolsih? NO I said make an example out of him -- learn to read asslejack learn to read.

Ainwein vs. Reading Comprehension = FUTILE! piss off!

Saying 'Fuck innocent until proven guilty' is likely to be misonconstrued as 'Get rid of the shit'. I know you lack the insight to see this, I feel sorry for you. You're what, 25 according to your profile? You can barely type, your posts are saturated with ignorance to the point where even Jedd would cringe, and all of your 'arguments' consist of 'OMFG KILL URSELF UR MOM TOOO HAHAHAHAHA'.

If, when I reach 25 I feel that I am anything like yourself, I may just take your advice.

aelani
07-22-2003, 09:16 PM
I have a nice retort for you -- Will have to post it when I get home it is graphically grand! It is what you opinion means.....more to come ......'til then eat me.

Bowler
07-22-2003, 09:37 PM
Im pissing myself in anticipation :rolleyes

KMA1234
07-22-2003, 11:04 PM
ivm shoulda kept you as app for months. the world would have been a better place with you sucking up and playing nice

welcome back to your roots

Prezto
07-23-2003, 12:22 AM
I like Asslejacks. They DO indeed taste like Assles AND don't go soggy in milk. My question is: Are they made of corn or was it just an anomoly of manufacture?

Tierfin
07-23-2003, 09:26 AM
wein, equilibrium owned lol

valorindel
07-23-2003, 12:18 PM
On a related note, I saw an interview with Mike Tyson where they asked him about the Kobe Bryant situation. Specifically, they wanted to know if he had any advice for him. His only comment was, "He should have beat her first."

Thormir
07-23-2003, 02:34 PM
If, when I reach 25...

Why bother, Ainwein? You'll just de-level back to age 10 anyway. :/

Maniacles
07-24-2003, 08:01 PM
You know, I think the man to market condoms with a sex consent form on the back with a place to sign is gonna make a mint.

Winterworg
07-26-2003, 12:24 AM
Why would you assume it would be a man who invented it! Sexist.

samanusuke
07-26-2003, 08:06 AM
Best thing about that is it happened at my school hahaha

So did he leave you his number at least, Pinches?

Satch
07-31-2003, 02:08 PM
Wow LL! 425lb bench and 750lb squat!! You are such a man! /Swooooon You're not nearly as cool as you seem to think you are, I would wager.


Trikki Rhythm
65 Bardi Casus Belli


Trikki is right on the ball. I got your point allstar but really we could give a flying &$)@$. We know altheletes get more girls than the normal Joe. It's the attitude that is the problem and if they burn Kobe for this he deserves it. He cheated on his damn wife and I hope all the little 'ballaz' out there that thought he was a hero toss their wheatie boxes with him on it with his stupid smile in the trash where they belong.

Just because you are famous and have every slut in the world knocking at your door is no excuse for not having morals. Also I find it funny the one guy walks in on a gang bang and gets so disgusted he leaves... did he stand up and say something about it being wrong? fuck no he left like a puss cuz he didn't want to get in trouble. Your friends sound like some sick fucks and that was great of you to bring the new recruits to the biggest slut on campus... make sure the whole team shares the same venirial deseases etc...good call... you will all meet your judgement someday... just wish you'd all think about that but oh well your hell not mine.

~Peace

and if you don't like trikki come talk to me. I can barely bench 200 and I'll still wup your ass bizatch.

ViBeSJoKeR
07-31-2003, 02:15 PM
and if you don't like trikki come talk to me. I can barely bench 200 and I'll still wup your ass bizatch.
Don't threaten me or I come to your door , strip nekkid and do the rain dance ......

Gerfs
07-31-2003, 03:45 PM
Don't threaten me or I come to your door , strip nekkid and do the rain dance ......

Ytork im gonna kick your ass!

P.S> I will be selling videos of Ytork doing the rain dance for $9.95. No Checks or COD's!

Lleauric
07-31-2003, 10:43 PM
Trikki is right on the ball.
Actually.. its seems YOUR right on his balls..

I got your point allstar but really we could give a flying &$)@$.
Who is this "we".. do you have a mouse in your pocket? Are you the representative or spokesperson of some group or consortium? Be a man, you flaming fucktard.. stop hiding behind people that dont exist.

We know altheletes get more girls than the normal Joe
Anyone who says "normal Joe" either has a AM talkshow or is hopeless geek..

It's the attitude that is the problem and if they burn Kobe for this he deserves it. He cheated on his damn wife and I hope all the little 'ballaz' out there that thought he was a hero toss their wheatie boxes with him on it with his stupid smile in the trash where they belong.
So you hate Kobe because hes black and rich... interesting..

Just because you are famous and have every slut in the world knocking at your door is no excuse for not having morals.
Nor does being famous grant somebody godlike infalliblity

Also I find it funny the one guy walks in on a gang bang and gets so disgusted he leaves... did he stand up and say something about it being wrong?
Stop what? It was consensual.. I guess a harddriving nerd assbomb like yourself would have jumped on the bed and delievered a impromptu seromn on Morality.
"Hey all you Joes.. jeepers.. that aint right doggone it all."

Your friends sound like some sick fucks and that was great of you to bring the new recruits to the biggest slut on campus... make sure the whole team shares the same venirial deseases etc...good call...
Not sure this is my place.. but... Sometimes.. when a man and a women touch each other in a special way.. if they dont know each other that well.. they use what are called "condoms".. you may have seen these in your waterballon fights at the local star trek convention.. but they are actually used for S-E-X

you will all meet your judgement someday... just wish you'd all think about that but oh well your hell not mine.
We are all sinners brother... I have my sins.. but you have yours.. Like.. for example.. 3 hours of stroking yourself off from Mangina Bard Cyber...

~Peace
YO PEACE OUT HOMIE!

and if you don't like trikki come talk to me. I can barely bench 200 and I'll still wup your ass bizatch.
Opps.. dont look now... your "ballaz" is showing there Snoop..
Whatever dickweed.. No.. you wouldnt "wup" my ass, you wouldnt even whup it.. You have no idea who I am.. what I do for a living.. ect ect..
But.. If you live near Connecticut.. maybe we can meet for a cup of Coffee somewhere, and you can tell how you tough you are, Ill pat you on the head.. give you a cookie, buy you a pack of Pokiemon cards, and send you home..

Damn Zehn.,. you were guilded with this fucking nerd? is he as geeked out as his posts indicate?

ainwein
07-31-2003, 10:57 PM
and if you don't like trikki come talk to me. I can barely bench 200 and I'll still wup your ass bizatch.

Haha.

Always funny to see the 'knights in shining armor' protect their online (girl?)friend. And by funny I mean pathetic.

OMG YOU MADE FUN OF KNIP!!?! WTF I SQUAT 40 POUNDS AND I WILL KEELLLLLLLLLL U!

Lleauric
07-31-2003, 11:03 PM
Btw,
I dedicate that last post to Halo..
tried the one liners style on to see how it fit..

Its more fun than it looks!!!

Trikki
08-01-2003, 03:46 AM
I never asked to be defended. Sorry if I bruised your ego Lluie. Just seemed like a lot of unecessary bragging. But whatever, you have alot of support on these boards, you are a witty fella that use to bench cars and trucks. So I won't dare get on your bad side, if you even have a bad side, you self described god. ;)

:evil

Satch
08-01-2003, 02:25 PM
See Trikki just ownz you by being humble and pointing out the fact you are an idiot.

I'd rather just call you an idiot and say a bunch of stupid things to get a rise out of you.

By the way, condoms or not, if you walk into a gang bang where some girl is getting it in every hole with a line of guys ready to be next and some guy is shitting in a corner I can't see how you wouldn't thing this is wrong or messed up. You trying to explain it further explains you have no clue about anything. GRATS!

Satch
08-01-2003, 02:37 PM
In addition since you think i'm just here to flame which is untrue. I'm here to point out your statement that "sometimes it's a tough situation" and your whole post is complete bullshit.

I will now stup to your level and play the quote game, the difference I won't make idiotic assuptions about what you said as you did with my post:


We had this girl who we called "the Cellar Dwellar".... she would do guys 2, 3 , 4 at a time... whatever.. complete freak. When we had recruits in from high schools who we wanted to get to come to the campus.. we would take them down to her late night, after the parties.. and she would do em all.


I repeat what would be the point in doing this? Hey come to our school and play ball we have the biggest sluts and you can get more dirty girls here! I'm a bit confused. Please don't try to give me a lesson on morals before you can explain that one.


I remember walking in the room.. she had 3 on the bed.. blowing one.. and skiing with the other 2 while another was hitting her from the rear.. This dude was shitting in the corner, and about 12 guys were watching..


Again, to me this is very fucked up and everyone involved whether they were concentual or not has something wrong with them. Why don't you give your mom and dad a call and tell them about this story and see what they think about it. I think you will find most people find this very fucked up but since you are pig-headed and stubborn you probably think that most people think this is fine and that's why you tried to brush it off. Maybe I should start refering to you as Kobe?


I remember thinking.. "damn.. if she wanted to.. some tears and a 2 minute story = the entire football team and recruits doing 15 years for a gang rape." So I got the fuck out of there as fast as I could, cause it freaked me out.


Did the fact your pansy ass could get in trouble freak you out? Or was it the fact that you shoulda stood up and said: "WOW This is fucking wrong guys" and get the girl some therapy. Something tells me it was the first reason.


But there were normal girls too.. I remember coming home to my frat from a party and there is this girl in front of my door.. cleat chaser.. I barely knew her.. but I get there and she tells me she wants to fuck, and she wants it rough.. now.. I obliterated on Tequila..

I love the part where you try to justify your poor decision by blaming it on Tequila. I've been drunk, most of us have, you still know what you are doing. You are drunk not retarded. If you are so drunk you are honestly passing out and losing memory chances are you won't be able to stand up let alone get your dick up.


Oh and p.s. by "we" I mean most people who read this thread.

Lleauric
08-01-2003, 09:35 PM
Ya..
I read what you wrote the first time shithole..

ITS STILL RETARDED..

If you have nothing new to say.. please shut the fuck up.. Im sorry I pwned you and you cant get over it.. but try..

btw... its spelled stoop not stup.. see, I know you were trying to sound it out.. and you figured youd throw a U in there cause thats the sound you figured it make.. but even a remedial english level comprehension of the english language would know that the ooo or u sound is achieved by double o..

If you have nothing new to offer.. please consider yourself dismissed.

PS Im glad you dropped the tough guy routine.. even your gerbil sized brain must have seen how fucking ridiculous it was.

Rhubarb Toast
08-01-2003, 10:24 PM
OMG YOU MADE FUN OF KNIP!!?! WTF I SQUAT 40 POUNDS AND I WILL KEELLLLLLLLLL U!
My hero! /swoon

Palimax Sceleris
08-02-2003, 12:59 AM
Well, they've gone and published the woman's name and address.

...like that's gonna do me a lot of good. If Kobe had to rape her, what chance do I have :(

Seriously though, apparently it only became rape after Kobe decided to shoot a round the back nine. And, as we all know, the rules for bedroom golf specifically state that you must obtain the explicit permission of the course owner before playing the back nine.

MarzMartini
08-02-2003, 06:50 AM
Ahhh ebay. The entertainment is endless. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2745219945&category=25168#ebayphotohosting)

Satch
08-04-2003, 05:57 PM
I beg you to read this post in 10 years and after you stop doing lines of crack and then realize how absolutely stupid you are.

Your entire post was to bitch and then another paragraph to cry about how I messed up one word. You didn't own anyone, just made yourself look like even more of an idiot. I'm sure even your board troll lackies who normally stick up for you would agree.

I see noobs a lot in the game but grats on being a real life noob.

You are still so stubborn and pigheaded you can't reply to any of the strong comments I had about how you behaved. Instead of defending the way you lived your life you come back with Junior High remarks. Pretty sad for a guy who is supposedly married, i pity your wife and children (If you have any, I hope to God you don't)

Satch
08-04-2003, 06:00 PM
http://www.wideopenwest.com/~msatchmo/suck.jpg

Lleauric
08-04-2003, 07:19 PM
You are still so stubborn and pigheaded you can't reply to any of the strong comments I had about how you behaved. Instead of defending the way you lived your life you come back with Junior High remarks.

See, thats the point.. I dont need to defend or explain anything to you.. why would I?
Your a kid.. you havent been anywhere or done anything.. You have no understanding of real life or what it takes to be a Man..

Trikki attacked me for whatever reason he had.. maybe he thought I was lying, maybe he thought I was bragging.. doesnt really matter.. I dont know Trikki from shit.. all I know is he app'd to EW once and either Withdrew or got rejected.. I dont really know, nobody was really interested enough to care. But since then he has been a pretty virulant hater. Thats fine too.
Attack me.. you get attacked back.. what I wrote is what it was.. honest.. It was real life, and thats what real life is kid, its neither noble and chivalrous or evil and bad. But you learn from what you go through. I dont apologize for playing football, or for being strong back then.. I dont know why it bothered Trikki so much, dont really care either.

Listen.. its a granted that Im smarter than you.. and I can flame better than you.. But you got me in good mood today, so no flames. Most of what goes on in these boards is riparte, verbal sparring.. and yes.. you lost. But thats ok.. cause you didnt even realize whats going on here.. You took everything close to heart.. like a kid would. Youll get better in time, and with experience in life.
I know your upset now.. your ego wont let you stop, but itll pass, take this as a learning experience.

Everything I post is 100% truth, I dont lie here, and I dont lie in real life, ever..
I work with a guy who is a ex- Hartford cop, and the best piece of advice he ever gave me was, always tell the truth, no matter what, the shit you get in from owning up and being honest is always less deep than what it when you start lying, and that is slippery slope.
I posted my own experiences with trepidation.. because I kinda knew it would be mis-interpreted by someone as bragging or whatever. Wether this because some people are so disatisfied with their own lives that they need to attack others, I dont really know, Ive never been a jealous or envious type.
But if you read what I posted, youll see what it is, a viewpoint, not yours, maybe one thats a little provocative, and maybe one that doesnt cast me in the best possible light, thats because its real. And thats what real life is.

btw... posting dumb little signs like that is a admission that you cant muster up anything intellgent to say..

Trikki
08-04-2003, 07:55 PM
I am not a virulent hater of EW. I just found your boasting, arrogant, self involved god complex having post amusing. So I commented about it.

Of course, I was incorrect and my perception was completely off. You aren't a pompous premadonna after all. ;)

:evil

Gerfs
08-04-2003, 08:21 PM
Oh and p.s. by "we" I mean most people who read this thread.

Are you kidding me?!?! Over half the people reading this probably dont even have a clue who you are. So dont speak for people who dont even know(or care) you exist.

Give Zilor a call and you two can talk about his collection of star wars plates on his wall.

So in closing, Until people here recognize you.. STFU speaking for "US".

Lleauric
08-04-2003, 09:47 PM
Apology accepted Trikki.

trimlock
08-04-2003, 11:17 PM
holy crap an argument was settled

Popi Tinythug
08-04-2003, 11:30 PM
I think they were (still are?) star trek plates!

MarzMartini
08-05-2003, 12:09 AM
holy crap an argument was settled

RL board has touched the lives of these individuals and made the world a better place!

/cry

Gerfs
08-05-2003, 01:43 AM
Sorry to the Star Wars fans.. I like Star Wars!! You were right Popi they are Star Trek plates!

ThePerfectFlaw
08-05-2003, 01:48 AM
Pinches is gay.

Satch
08-05-2003, 01:50 PM
You've got to be kidding me.

Lleauaric you can think you are smarter than anyone if you want. This is your weakness. If you were truely smarter you wouldn't be so bold as to try to make that statement. It would have shown through in your words and statements. However, I didn't expect much from you in your responses and I got just that... not much.

You may be a semi-intellegent man who thinks he has everything figured out. Congratulations.

You claim you aren't flaming yet your post wreaks of shit because it is nothing but more smartass remarks. Again I ask you for the 3rd time now, why not respond to any of my questions? I'm attacking your morals and the decisions you made in your life and all you can do is keep posting bullshit about how much smarter you are and how educated you are on life. I don't think Trikki (btw female) was commenting on bragging about how strong you were. It was more about you bragging that you had all these whores attracted to you like you were some big pimp on campus or something as you reel off your college story as Tupac sings "That's just the way it is"

I conclude this post with a request that now that you know the meaning of life, would you please work on your reading skills?

I said your remarks were childish combacks form Junior High... where in that statement did I say I was 11 and in 6th grade? I didn't. Reading comprehension???

I'm 21 years old jackass and although I don't claim to be a master on life I do know a thing or two about some things as I've gone through 4 years of college and graduated. All of my comments to you have been attacking your judgements that you made in college and how you still can't converse about them now as if you are ashamned.

Please don't try to give me a lesson about flaming. You are a poor flamer as all you pull are weak personal attacks. You said yourself no one here knows me so how the fuck can you make assumptions about what I do or do not know about life. Good job contradicting your own self there. Then you dance around my questions attacking your judgements because even now years later you can't fess up and be a man and say you made a mistake not standing up for that girl who obviously had something wrong with her. No little girl ever says "Hey my dream is to get tag teamed by the entire football team of some small no name school" She obviously had some serious problems and instead of helping her you and your buddies just took advantage of her.

Don't sit here and try to give a lesson on the best way to live life is to always tell the truth when you do nothing but dance around questions about facts in your life that happened. If you wanna live by your friends advice answer the questions and reflect on how you lived and still live your life.

Kobe is a piece of shit and we don't care "how hard it is"... i'm sure it's hard being rich and having girls thrown at you. That is justification for raping someone... I'm trying hard to see your point... really I am.

p.s. Pretty sure trikki was ripping on you again in her last post but you are too stupid to see that and actually thought it was a complete appology. Again I blame your parents and your reading skills.

Satch
08-05-2003, 01:54 PM
p.s. x2

And to everyone else i'm sorry I spoke too soon for you when I said "we". All i meant by that is most people (at least I hope to God most) would read his little story about the gang bang and a guy shitting in the corner and guys just standing their watching and as they read it have a nice big "WTF that is messed up" thought float into their mind. I'm sorry if I spoke too soon and you all think this is normal perfectly acceptable behavior.

Btw Lleauaric, if you are so mature and know so much now you have any daughters? Imagine if that girl was your daughter.

Also should I mention how stupid this all sounds. You guys are football players who actually have a better pick of the girls than most guys yet what do you all do... gang bang the town whore??? wtf... why not go for a decent girl? Seriously.

ViBeSJoKeR
08-05-2003, 02:18 PM
Those guys abused a girl who used sex to get attention, she was probably drugged (being drunk means ur drugged too) and if people think that's cool they are silly fucks. If I would walk into that room I would get the girl out, get her dressed and send her home and I would have made sure the guys would get dispelled.

If that was my daughter and I found out I would hunt the guys down who abused my daughter (if if she did it on her "free will") and either cut their dicks off or made sure their lifes would turn into hell.

I think anyone who thinks that was a cool thing should have their heads examined .. and if u think it's fun to "share" your girlfriend I hope your "real" girlfriend (the one you won't share) will sleep with your bestfriend and tell you you are a shitty performer in bed and she would rather fuck a gimp then to ever have sex with you again.

Nothing cool about abuse .. seriously isn't.

Ibudin
08-05-2003, 02:38 PM
If I would walk into that room I would get the girl out

I'd be willing to bet you would become there new bitch.


Ibudin

ViBeSJoKeR
08-05-2003, 03:24 PM
I'd be willing to bet you would become there new bitch.

Still wouldn't change what I would do .. and since you have no knowledge of me in my schooldays you have no clue what people would or would not dare do to me ...

It's just weak if u are afraid of what people may do to you if you can help out. Act now .. suffer the consequences later.

mirdorr
08-05-2003, 04:02 PM
It's just weak if u are afraid of what people may do to you if you can help out. Act now .. suffer the consequences later.

The irony in that statement is so rich it makes me gag.

Toothy Draghkar
08-05-2003, 04:21 PM
Shaddap. Ytrok's right, the decent thing would have been to do something. Of course if you went in there forcefully to get her out, they would have kicked your ass or worse... But doesn't mean you can't think of something to do. If I couldn't have been able to think of something I hope I would have just taken the chance and gotten my ass beat. :\


Something creative maybe. Splash some liquor on them and hold up a lighter? :hat

Mmm, fire!

ViBeSJoKeR
08-05-2003, 05:44 PM
The irony in that statement is so rich it makes me gag.
Maybe you should get the cock out of ur throat if u dislike gagging....

Or maybe you should be raped by 3 peeps while the rest of your "friends" is lookin at how you are "enjoying it".

Lleauric
08-05-2003, 06:21 PM
Ya know..

Everyday.. somewhere.. some girl shoots a porn video thats 100x worse than what I walked into that night (ask Zehn).. Why dont you go put a stop to it?
Ohh I know.. because she is a consenting adult.

I have no idea why people choose to do things.. Im not them.. but they are adults and they have the freedom to do what they want..
Believe it or not... the girl in my story wanted the people in her room there.. she would ask and set it up in advance so her roommate could leave.
Was it rape? No.. but it also wasnt something I wanted to be a part of, so I left.
Anyway.. if I HAD drug her out of her room, and she didnt want to leave, thats assault and kidnapping.
I think thats the key thing to remember.. she wanted what was going to happen.. was she fucked up in the head? Sure, by normal standards.. but she was still a consenting adult.
I have no idea why some people do the sick shit they do.. but its not my job to fix them, even if I knew how.
If it was a rape.. I WOULD have done something, but it just wasnt...

Now put your morals where your mouths are.. and Ytrok.. go down to the red light district and start rescuing girls.. and Satch.. go burn down a XXX video store, or blockade it.

As far as the other stuff... meh.
Im sorry you didnt get laid in college... I really am Satch.
But the facts dont change and are what they are... I was single for the first 3 years of my college life, and I had ALOT of fun.. And I saw alot of strange shit, and did alot of crazy shit.
I SCUBA dived on Acid..
I saw a masterbation contest during a Psyche 101 lecture.
3x Cancun... spring break... nuff said
Played 2 semesters worth of "hide the turd"
Jumped off a 3rd story roof into a snow bank, naked, and broke my tailbone.
Bet my Entire housing money check from scholarship on red in roulette at the Casino.
I was young, I was stupid, and I dont regret one instant of it.

Then I met my wife and settled down and lived happily ever after. And I dont regret one instant of that either.

ViBeSJoKeR
08-05-2003, 06:41 PM
I am sure you knew exactly what condition this girl was in and what circumstances and how much she actually liked it. Did you talk to her and chat about the why and such? Did you have any knowledge of the reasons she let this happen to her?
Do you know what has happend in her past that mad eher what she is .. and do you really think she is happy when she gets home being abused by a couple of your mates?

Did you at all make an effort to walk up to her and tell her that she may not want to do what she's doing cause it will mess her up... did you tell her parents or did you feel her parents had nothing to do with it... how is she now? Is she happy??

But hey ... next time it's your daughter and then it's all fine and dandy cause she liked it so much eh ....

Leaving this discussion for the randy boys out there who wouldn't get it in a normal situation ...

mirdorr
08-05-2003, 06:49 PM
I am sure you knew exactly what condition this girl was in and what circumstances and how much she actually liked it. Did you talk to her and chat about the why and such? Did you have any knowledge of the reasons she let this happen to her?

Do you? You stretch situations in the weirdest ways.

Your chivalry is nice. But from what the storyteller said, the girl chose to be there.

ViBeSJoKeR
08-05-2003, 06:54 PM
you go cheer em on mirdorr .. u seem that kinda guy ..

go rape a girl or 2 and say she wanted it cause she didn't say no while gagging ...

stupid fuck.

putting you back on ignore you're really not woth my time.

Ibudin
08-05-2003, 07:04 PM
If you as a parent would have to even worry in the slightest bit that your daughter would run off and look for a gang bang you best start changing your ways how you are raising her.

You seem to forget that she was consenting adult by all the evidence shown so far. She wasn't fighting nor was she from his discription being forced to do it..I know you might have a very hard time thinking that someone might actually like doing or having done to them as described in L2's story but fact of the matter is they are people who do like that and even to a point fight for the right to do as they like with in closed doors.

I know you think you have this 6th sense and know what is right for this particular woman and what they should be doing but guess what you don't and preaching to us about having the balls to take charge of the situation and worry about the consequences later dont fit into any of the posts you have about a certian other topic that would derail this post. You are a person who needs beyond a doubt all the evidence of wrong doing before he could do anything towards helping the woman..so what would you of done if you asked that woman if she liked what she was having done to her and she asked you to join?


Ibudin

ViBeSJoKeR
08-05-2003, 07:08 PM
so what would you of done if you asked that woman if she liked what she was having done to her and she asked you to join?
I would turn around and walk away ...

I don't need sex that bad to have it in that way ... And I rather not get a desease from her either .. because .. condoms don't protect you from everything ya know .( giving a little sex education here).

Anyway .. it seems that you feel it's appropriate and all ok that people act in that way .. I don't agree . Oh .. and not everything is a parents fault.

Have fun with this chat it's something I have sad my say on. I dissaprove and feel that people who feel it's normal are sad.
Have fun with the ladies ..

Bowler
08-05-2003, 07:12 PM
I know, next time I have sex why dont you come over and "rescue" the person Im having sex with. Im mean do you know their past ... maybe they are being raped and are just too emotionally scarred to ask for help.

Ibudin
08-05-2003, 07:13 PM
Never said I approve of it but somethings are just the way they are. Like L2 said if he would of snapped her up you could face a shit load of trouble with the law ..from assault to kidnapping.

I have great respect for women and always will..situtations like what was describe make me ill. Don't really understand it and never will.


Ibudin

mirdorr
08-05-2003, 07:23 PM
Anyway .. it seems that you feel it's appropriate and all ok that people act in that way .. I don't agree . Oh .. and not everything is a parents fault.

This is getting wacky. Aren't you from one of the many countries that claims to be less uptight about sex than the U.S.?

Why are you so bent on getting righteous about a situation that you know nothing about? Is this hitting a nerve?

ViBeSJoKeR
08-05-2003, 07:41 PM
I know, next time I have sex why dont you come over and "rescue" the person Im having sex with. Im mean do you know their past ... maybe they are being raped and are just too emotionally scarred to ask for help.
If you see no difference in 1 girl 3 guys and 12 around her watching and you having sex with a girl .. then nm it eh ...

Taleren Bloodsong
08-05-2003, 09:32 PM
to quote L2:
Believe it or not... the girl in my story wanted the people in her room there.. she would ask and set it up in advance so her roommate could leave.


now, if she set it up BEFORE hand, I.E. when she was sober, then your whole drug induced argument is null and void Ytrok.
If it's what she wanted, then by all means, I'm no priest, nor the girls parent. If she's of age, made the decision to set this up on her own accord, it's no one's place to stop it other than her own. L2 never said anyone forced her to do anything, he said she herself set it up before the actions took place. I'd venture to say she's probably sober between the point when she sets it up and when she acts, therefore if she's of "sound mind"(sober, i won't guess on whether she's actually sane or not), then there would be no basis for L2 to stop it. And he's right, if she wanted to be there, and he tried to forcefully stop anything, it would at the minimum be assault.

I'm not debating the morality of the situation he walked in on, i'm discussing whether it was his place to try and stop anything. If the situation was exactly as he said(which is the only circumstances I have to base anything upon), then no he would have been out of place to stop it.

As far as calling L2 egotistical, hell yeah he is, and I'm sure he'd be the first person to admit it. But to try and thrust one's moralist values upon him is every bit as egotistical, and minimizes the case you'd have for any argument.

Now... Back to why the thread was started:
Whether he raped this woman or not is for the courts to decide, I'd like to hope he didn't rape her. We'll soon find out.
While people are chastising him saying he doesn't deserve his place in the upper echelon of endorsement deals, why aren't you also chastising Michael Jordan? Jordan, who is the number one compensated endorser in the world, not more than a year ago admitted that he also cheated on his wife. Now by no means am I justifying what Kobe did, but if you want to chastise him and state he no longer deserves to be #3, number one can no longer stand there by your arguments.

Like it or not, most of these women that marry athletes know what kind of lifestyle the athlete is living with respect to promiscuity. It doesn't make cheating on the wives justified, but the women know going into the relationship that it is most likely going to occur. The woman are compensated with a monetary lifestyle they would otherwise not attain, its a sacrifice most of them are willing to make for the money. Doesn't make it right, but it's simply the way it is. Notice after Kobe admitted to adultery, his wife didn't leave him, Kobe just bought her a 4 million dollar, 8 karat, purple diamond ring and everything is all ok.

Esbat
08-05-2003, 10:40 PM
Act now .. suffer the consequences later.

And I rather not get a desease <sic> from her either .. because .. condoms don't protect you from everything ya know .( giving a little sex education here).

Oh... the irony grows.

The key thing here is willingness- if she wanted, at that moment in her life, to entertain a dozen guys... fine.

If she had a second thought halfway through and said "stop"- even if she planned it months in advance and had done it hundreds of times... different story.

Winterworg
08-06-2003, 05:28 AM
I couldn't find the original comment about the gangbang, but it seems to me kind of weird for people to assume she was being abused and presume to go give her a lecture about how this will have a bad impact on her life. I have a friend who brings friends home for his wife to fuck all the time. He's asked me join them a few times and I've said no... it's just not something that interests me. A couple months ago he invited me to join them in an orgy with a few other couples.

I don't understand why it is they do those things, but I would never presume to lecture them about it.

ViBeSJoKeR
08-06-2003, 09:27 AM
You know what .. maybe you are right, maybe she just wanted it like that and maybe we should just let her ... maybe she will become a reject and you find her on the corner of some street, maybe she'll finish college and becomes god knows what.

But still ... if I would walk into a room where that is going on I would ask the people if they think it's normal what's going on .. if the girl tells me to fuck off then so be it .. but I would give it a go anyway...

But maybe you peeps are right ... she wanted it like that (that's still an assumption). But I know so many people who got abused as a kid by their parents and use sex to get attention aka affection (that's how they experiance it) and for me this girl is a prime example of trying to get attention even if she needs to throw away her body to get it.

But I don't know about her, her motives etc .. I should not assume she didn't want it like that either.

Edeina
08-06-2003, 11:00 AM
Then again, Ytrok, there are, in fact, women who happen to have other sexual preferences then average.

And this does in fact NOT mean that they are retarded or emotionally crippled or some shit like that.

No woman (or man for that matter) wants to be a real rape-victim.

However, there are many women who enjoy having sex with multiple partners, have anal sex or indulging in sadomasochistic games.

Some of these women do have emotional problems, just like some plain vanilla women does. But most don't.

Sadly, today there are moralists who deny adult women the right do decide for themselves what they want. If a woman wants something that's different from average (average = a less loaded word then "normal", but with the same meaning), then by definition she's a victim who don't know what she wants. Bleah.

If you think you have reason to believe that someone's in troubble, then take some time and talk to her. LISTEN to her. Don't decide for yourself what she's really feeling. It's really up to her, not you.

ViBeSJoKeR
08-06-2003, 11:09 AM
Lol I know how people can be and everyone has their own way of having sex ...

But to walk into a situation and go like ... ooh I better leave here cause I might get arrested tells me something is/was not right. 12 people watching it in a public place (why would she arrange it so her roommate leaves, yet have 3 on her and 12 watching and anyone can walk in).

It was how it was written that made me feel (made me feel, so no factual info) that something may not have been right.

But as I said ... I don't know her, what she is about or whatever and if this is her thing .. (I am sure L2 talked to her being the guy he is and she said, listen man I like it like that) then she is free to do so.

But still .. if I would have walked into that room and see those guys I would seriously ask them if they think what they are doing is right and make them think about themselfes...

Anyway ... I should not judge what I can't judge since I was no where there and there is no real factual information about what happend.
So I won't.

Satch
08-06-2003, 03:20 PM
Ytrok,

I'm with you all the way here.

Yes people may be freaks and just wanna do whatever they want but I can guarantee most people going into a situation like this had some kind of abuse. You fuckers dont' know shit if she did or not so don't say she didn't. 99% of the cases like this there was some kinda abuse. Don't believe me go read some stuff on psychology on the internet. People don't just wake up and say : "hey i think it'd be cool to do every guy in town and have everyone watch"


NOW TO THE MAIN POINT:

The biggest problem of ALL with this even if the girl was just a freak... is your fucking teamates and YOU. YOU brought the new teammates TO THIS WHORE and said hey come to my school look we have SWEET WHORES LIKE THIS. Why in fucks name would you take the new recruits to this messed up girl (everyone stfu if she is doing it on her own free will or not there is something wrong with her).

I'm not saying she was raped or it was cuz of the alcohol or whatever the hell you people were smoking. I'm saying even totally sober that is some fucked up stuff and not only on morals and all kinds of just plain human respect issues but on a disease issue. That bitch has to have every std this side of the mississippi.

and for the record I got all the sex i needed in college. It's called a hot gf that gets horny as much as I do. It's called commitment and a relationship... perhaps you never learned that.

I love your comments, think of it like this... you had to bust your ass in a weightroom everyday which will wreck your ass when you hit 50 or 60 because your joints are all but destroyed including your back. You had to bust your ass on practice fields for some coach who pushed you so hard you wanted to kill him... all for some pussy no school team with no chances for NFL or national fame. You got all the sex you wanted but you had to go to parties and sleep with girls who were whores and used you for nothing but your dick and then got rid of your ass and was fucking another guy the next night. You weren't a pimp you in my book are a loser with no clue about life, love, relationships, or how the world works for the other 95% of us.

I on the other had slept in every weekend, didn't have to go to practice so I could chill with my friends and have fun whenever I wanted. I could eat whatever I wanted and didn't have to down my bodyweight x 2 grams of protein a day to keep building muscle. I played sports for fun. If I lost oh well it was still cool getting outside and playing with my friends and meeting new people, we'd all go out to eat or to the beach have a camp fire and chill out. Got to know a lot of people really well and became life long friends with them. Met a girl who I thought was out of my league who I guarantee is as cute if not prettier than any of the hoez you guys were banging, we ended up hooking up and have been together ever since. I have crazy wild sex whenever I want and I have the peace of mind that she isn't getting banged by anyone else which makes it not just sex aka pound her ass get off...yayayay i'm done... but it makes a more special bond between us... something I don't really expect you to understand. She isn't my first either but that is another story just so you don't start pulling pussy remarks about oh you are only sayin that cuz she's the only girl you ever got or something stupid that I would expect from you.

So in the end I think I win if you are trying to have a pissing match. I wouldn't have wanted you lifestyle because although you may have some crazy stories and no regrets. I don't have any regrets either, have closer friends than you'll ever have, got to do more things other than play football, work out, and party. Have an incredable girlfriend who I plan on marrying (did i mention girlfriends cook food for you and take care of you when you are sick... that's right you wouldn't know that till after college cuz all you did was fuck around...sorry you missed out bro). I got to sleep in and relax and work out and play sports because I wanted to. Didn't have to push my body past it limits that will affect me negatively when I"m older or have to worry about my play performance to keep my scholarship....

so anyways if you are happy with your life that is fine. You have some gray areas that others would criticize you for like not standing up for people and introducing others to dirty whores and stuff.

I'm sure you are a good guy and if you got a nice wife now and stuff i'm glad you turned out ok

peace

mirdorr
08-06-2003, 04:32 PM
I just kinda crack up at the potential conversation:

Ytrok: Hey, what's going on here??
Girl: oooohhhh
Ytrok: Excuse me, are you ok?
Girl: Oh GODDDddddddddd.
Ytrok: Oh no! Are they hurting you? Do you need help?
Girl: Oh. Ohhh. OOOHHH!!
Ytrok: Hey, leave her alone!
Girl: Yes. YES!!

ViBeSJoKeR
08-06-2003, 05:14 PM
Hey Mirdorr ... I know you like to swing my dick around and touch it now and again .. but if stalking me is the best you can do then ur one sorry fuck ...

Carry on.

mirdorr
08-06-2003, 05:16 PM
Hey Mirdorr ... I know you like to swing my dick around and touch it now and again .. but if stalking me is the best you can do then ur one sorry fuck ...

If I'd said that to you, you'd be screaming to the mods.

It's a joke. If you can't figure it out and have a laugh on the boards once in a while, move on.

ViBeSJoKeR
08-06-2003, 05:46 PM
Mirdorr you are as funny as using a cactus as a butplug ...

Gerfs
08-06-2003, 06:27 PM
Mirdorr you are as funny as using a cactus as a butplug ...

I bet you that chick woulda liked that!

But unfortunately thats exactly what I was thinking to mirr.

Prezto
08-07-2003, 01:13 AM
I think the "Press" should be REQUIRED to dress in Ku Klux Klan oufits for the remainder of the trial. Kobe Bryant should be dressed like LaVar Burton from Alex Haley's "Roots".

ThePerfectFlaw
08-07-2003, 04:50 AM
I imagine the next time L2's best friend threatens to jump off a bridge, he won't say anything.

Hell, he's a consenting adult. 8/

Palimax Sceleris
08-07-2003, 05:38 AM
I shall be flamed for this, no doubt...I think the "Press" should be REQUIRED to dress in Ku Klux Klan oufits for the remainder of the trial. Kobe Bryant should be dressed like LaVar Burton from Alex Haley's "Roots". Toby!

Lleauric
08-07-2003, 06:50 AM
not sure what kinda kinky shit your into zehn..

but i dont look at sex and jumping off a bridge as the same thing..

But I DO have a friend who does BASE jumping.

Taleren Bloodsong
08-07-2003, 07:08 AM
Next time your friend goes base jumping, You should stop him and calmly tell him the dangers of base jumping. If you dont' try and stop him from this obvious dangerous hobby, you are totally amoral.

Prezto
08-07-2003, 10:08 AM
I shall be flamed for this, no doubt...Bullshit....That's all me Max....Lol

Prezto
08-07-2003, 10:11 AM
Toby! ROFL!

ViBeSJoKeR
08-09-2003, 01:42 PM
Kobe caught on camera! (http://www.finerside.com/la-rape-show/larapeshow.htm)

Contains slight semi not really some sort of possible nudity.

trimlock
08-09-2003, 05:09 PM
that is obviously a fake

ThePerfectFlaw
08-10-2003, 01:02 AM
Hahhaha

carate
08-12-2003, 01:43 PM
Quote from L2 in a different post:

Quote:
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With eternal damnation, possibly including hellfire, torture and whatnot depending on what view of Hell you buy into.
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Only for acting like an asshole... Non Belief doesnt damn you.. Non Action and Actions damn you...
Stepping over a man in the gutter, pretending you dont see him is just as much a sin as putting the man there...




OH THE IRONY!

Lazzarik
08-20-2003, 03:24 AM
Back to sex. It's college, I'm sure crap like this goes on in every college, and if you want to make a statement about this, that involves one girl, look at girls gone wild. That involves probably 50 girls at each party that don't want to do the things that they do, or are paid to, or whatever the case may be.

ThePerfectFlaw
08-20-2003, 03:43 AM
There's a difference between a man in the gutter and a chick getting gang banged.

The guy in the gutter most likely wants out at all cost.

If the chick was crying rape and L2 walked away, that would be an entirely different matter.

Lazzarik
08-20-2003, 04:34 AM
Joo g00ber, you're worse then the evil brother who tells his sister santa's not real!

Gerfs
08-20-2003, 02:49 PM
Santas not real?!?!?!?

NOOOO YOU BASTARD!!! /runs away crying

Selwen Soulgazer
08-20-2003, 06:33 PM
Sorry Gerf. That old man in the red suit is just a dirty old pedophile pretending to be Santa. Besides.you shoulda learned after all these years after you touched his " magic wand" and still didnt get a pony :(

Gerfs
08-20-2003, 06:39 PM
Besides.you shoulda learned after all these years after you touched his " magic wand" and still didnt get a pony

I always thought there was something "fishy" about that "magic wand", Now I go bathe!/does the ace ventura scene after he finds out detective = larry finkle! :lol