The new issue of TV Guide (which we were delivering today) has a short interview with Eliza Dushku, who will be starring in "Doll House", the new series from Joss Whedon which will make it's debut on Friday the 13, February 2009.

As an aside, I am increasingly impressed by this lady. She is not in the headlines for partying and public drunkenness and such, but instead shows up in a picture spread of people competing in a triathlon (at least the biking and swimming). She also bow hunts. What a refreshing change from the Lohans and Spears and such.


And yes, I goofed on the thread title; it should have read February 13, 2009.

Eliza is the hawt /nods

scifi.com has been following the developments behind this series. They've called Fox out for slating this series on a Friday night which is typically a bad night for any series.

Eliza is the hawt /nods

scifi.com has been following the developments behind this series. They've called Fox out for slating this series on a Friday night which is typically a bad night for any series.

Apparently Whedon likes that night for it.

It matters little for Whedon - if there's one thing he enjoys doing, it's usually the thing everyone else is too afriad to do.

I'm 50/50 on the concept of his new series (been following it for sometime, being both a Whedon nut and a Dushku fan). As much as a robotic personality transplant doesn't entice me, I know Whedon can do wonders with the fantastical, as well as the difficult. It's an original theme, which is when he's usually at his best (see: "Hush" or "Once More With Feeling" from the Buffy series).

Either way, it's great to see him back. This guy should always have a show. And Dushku? Should always be on my tele screen :P

'She's all like "Look at me, I'm wicked cool, I'm five-by-five"'.
'Five-by-five? Five-by-five what?'
'That's exactly it, no one knows!'

Love it.

Oh the Whedon patter is definately a must each season. I still find myself watching Angel a few times a week ( dvr it early morning off tnt Hd).

Echo, the main character sounds like she's aptly named. Instead of being 100% wiped after every mission she starts to retain a bit more and more of her own persona.

Should be fun, we can hope for her to be...well Eliza!!

I am down with this show.

Halo, Hush was possibly the most amazing thing Whedon has ever done outside of comic books.

I am down with this show.

Halo, Hush was possibly the most amazing thing Whedon has ever done outside of comic books.

Dr. Horrible was the most amazing thing he did, period.

She also bow hunts.

If she bow hunted grizzlies without a tree stand, I'd be impressed....:eek:

Dr Horrible was genius!

But I'm sticking with Hush as his most amazing work. Well, that and 'Primeval', the dream-episode at the end of Season 4. "Don't forget the cheese slices".

Brilliant.

Dr horrible was GREAt, but Hush....seriously gives me chills thinking about it.

Two weeks to go, and I am seriously looking forward to this debut.

My only fear, not knowing the time slot, is that someone fraks up and puts it at the same time slot as BSG. That would kill it, since most folks watching BSG's closing episodes would be the ones to watch Doll House. That would drastically impact the numbers.

I am so fed up with the shit they are shoveling us in TV land that this might be one of only a few shows worth watching once BSG airs it final episode.

Don't worry - Whedon shines when given bad time slots. Buffy and Angel were all the better for being underdogs, and literally shat-on by WB. 7 years proved them wrong.

If this programme is good - it will shine.

YAY!!!!


Dollhouse is slotted in the hour prior to BSG, so I am a happy camper. Am finally seeing some promo commercials for it, too.

http://www.dollverse.com/

Thanks, Selwen! :D

Terminator and Dollhouse and BSG on the same night. I'm a happy camper as well Byl!!

Fridays have been boring without a SG series on of one sort or another.

I saw on Scifi.com that there are some new pilots being pitched for sci/fantasy. Hopefully the Dollhouse series brings more interested to the venue.

Good interest, I can do without a Charmed clone or such.

Sarah Michelle Gellar has done a few interesting movies, and those Scooby things, since Buffy was retired. But, I think she could really have a great vehicle in renewing the Buffy franchise, maybe bring Dawn (Michelle Trachtenberg) along for the ride. Rather than being stuck in one town, let her go international now, chasing down the evils wherever they pop up.

But also allow her a bit more of a real life outside of the slaying and slayees. I would tune in, as long as someone of Whedon's talent was running the show.

IMO, her career has been pretty pathetic since Buffy. I thought it would be her launch pad but, much like the Friends crew, for example, it was really her zenith - a shame she was so young.

ANY kind of Buffyverse programme would be awsome. Whedon talked about doing a 'Ripper' show for the BBC when Buffy was ending, with Giles living back in england and dealing mainly with ghost cases. But, unfortunately, nothing came of it, much like the supposed 'Spike' spin-off, and of course when offered her own 'Faith' spin-off, Eliza chose to do Tru Calling. A shame.

Her performance in Tru Calling makes Keanu Reeves look like a talented, expressive actor by comparison. Damn you for making me remember that.

Tru Calling was awful ;( Sci Fi runs marathons during the day on this one every now and again.

When I was on night shift I caught a few in a row...

I'm with ya'll, something in the buffverse would be welcome. Especially if he draws back to that "patter" he's so famous for.

What he said

What time is this on in the US? Waiting eagerly to download tonight's show, usually by Saturday morning for most other US shows.

9:00 eastern.

usually EZTV has shows up pretty quick

Made a bag of Orville's Movie Theater Butter, with a half stick of real butter melted over it, and sat back with a beer to watch the debut.

The popcorn was good.

This was a typical Whedon vehicle; I need another couple episodes to decide how I like it. There were elements that were drawing me in, but it also seemed somewhat disconnected, which I don't like.

And, Amy Acker as a disfigured Doctor took me by surprise; I really have missed seeing her, as I consider her to be a talented addition to anything she appears in, with the exception of a poorly directed Fantasy movie involving dragons.

Oohh.. Amy Acker?? She had a good guest appearance in Ghost Whisperer a while back. I miss her very much too, she has talent, definately.

Was it comedic, in anyway? Or more of a dark drama? Rate it out of ten for me, PLEASE!!

Oohh.. Amy Acker?? She had a good guest appearance in Ghost Whisperer a while back. I miss her very much too, she has talent, definately.

Was it comedic, in anyway? Or more of a dark drama? Rate it out of ten for me, PLEASE!!


For a pilot, without having characters fleshed out yet, 7/10. Need a few more episodes to get a better understanding of characters and the technology being used. There is some subtle dark humor, but more drama.

It's on Hulu now: http://www.hulu.com/watch/57885/dollhouse-ghost

Taking a watch and see attitude with this one. I was happy to see Amy Acker as well, I find the guy that plays the tech that "wipes" everyone to be excessively annoying.

Enjoyed this second episode much more, being it was providing some depth to the characters and explanations for some of the questions raised in the first.

I am wondering if Amy Acker is going to be more of a regular or recurring character rather than a guest. And, with all the technology and obvious available cash, why is she not having the scarring fixed?

There are a couple story lines that can now be followed along with the adventures of Eliza. When they intersect it will be very interesting.

Maybe - hard to see this lasting, but I could be wrong. Just don't picture in my mind millions of viewers tuning in every week to watch. The episode was okay, but just felt...predictable? It was hard to feel hooked because I felt like I could see everything coming. Too much of that pop genre.

By the way - Richard Connell, the killer's name, is also the author of a short story The Most Dangerous Game, about a man who lures sailors to his island and then hunts them like animals.

I'd say that third episode will be my last. It's sort of like Alias, except not good at all. And her acting is apparently going to be of the Tru Calling variety.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/2/27/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/fireslayer1672/2009-03-02-a-crisis-of-faith.jpg

Seems that's the concensus

Just reading the idea of this show has really turned me off to it.

Sadly, I reread "Johnathan Livingston Seagull" this afternoon, and was more involved in this short story (which I had read before) than the last episode of Doll House.

I had such high hopes, with Whedon and Dushku collaborating. :(

I'm going to give it a little more time, want so see how this Alpha storyline spices it up.

I'm giving this more time, too. It very much has the "who cares?" Tru Calling factor about it. Nonetheless I'm determined to stick it out.

But... it's just so boring. There is no chemistry. Is Dushku really only good *as* Faith?

I'm terribly dissapointed at the moment :(

That's it, she should be imprinted with Faith!!

I think she's trying much too hard to be "notfaith" imho. However if she keeps retaining shards of each imprint she'll eventually become a badass, as Alpha did.

Did you guys notice the little head shake at the end? Sierra was about to say hi, and Echo shook her head as if to say "not now" as they walked past the security guys.

Hmmmm

Did you guys notice the little head shake at the end? Sierra was about to say hi, and Echo shook her head as if to say "not now" as they walked past the security guys.

Hmmmm

Yeah, it was a subtle sign of the "awareness" that is supposed to be removed, lingering.

I'm assuming that was what we were supposed to get from her talking around the guy on the catwalk too. Her negotiation skills from episode 1 were still present.

Yeah, it's not looking so good for the Dollhouse: http://twitter.com/feliciaday/statuses/1485047992

Yeah, it's not looking so good for the Dollhouse: http://twitter.com/feliciaday/statuses/1485047992

It's looking good actually. The 13th episode was never ordered by fox tv even though fox studios shot it. The 12th episode is the season 1 finale.

I am really on a roller coaster with this show; sometimes it is drawing me in and I see the old Whedon touch, and others it is just bleh.

The last episode with the "breakout" seemed to show a bit more of the actors' talent than had been the case, and the preview with the discovery of a "mole" actually has me looking forward to watching. Overall, I think my disappointment is due to my doing comparisons to prior Whedon offerings, rather than letting the show rise or fall on it's own.

I am still on the fence.

It's looking good actually. The 13th episode was never ordered by fox tv even though fox studios shot it. The 12th episode is the season 1 finale.

A season with 12 episodes isn't exactly good news.

A season with 12 episodes isn't exactly good news.

The 13th episode is a stand alone episode... it was cut due to changes to the overall storyline. Here, better info then my interpretation.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b117929_dollhouse_heres_deal_on_season_finale.html

Yeah, I saw that.

So, to summarize, Fox the television studio made 14 episodes of Dollhouse, and Fox the television network paid for the 13 that it originally ordered and is airing 12 of them.

A last, and very important, note: According to sources on the network side, the net's not picking up and airing "Epitaph One" has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not they pick up the series for a second season, a situation which, I'm told, is "100 percent in the decision phase." You can obviously believe them or not as you choose, but I take them at their word. I may be a sucker like that.

They might as well just come out and say the show's dead.

'A season with 12 episodes isn't exactly good news.'

- Buffy's first season had 12 eps.

It means very little, actually.

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/the-10-shows-that-deserve-to-return-next-fall-but-might-not--228

Buffy's first season had 12 eps.

It means very little, actually.

That was a different era. Shows like that don't last anymore.

A particularly relevant example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_%28TV_series%29

I am a heck of a lot more concerned about losing Chuck or Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles... but I would really love Dollhouse to stick around, as it is slowly getting better.

I really liked the first season of Chuck, but it's dead to me now. They turned it into little more than a cheesy soap opera. I wouldn't be surprised if it got cut.

I believe Chuck's viewer numbers are up. The last few episodes have been really good.

yeah last few have been awesome

I actually thought the last two episodes of Dollhouse were more in line with the old Whedon plot-lines.

I want to believe it will continue to develop in a positive, creative manner.

I actually thought the last two episodes of Dollhouse were more in line with the old Whedon plot-lines.

I want to believe it will continue to develop in a positive, creative manner.

Sadly Fox has a history of yanking shows before they fully develop ;(

/mourns Firefly!!

I'll have to watch some of the later Chucks, if it get better.

Sadly Fox has a history of yanking shows before they fully develop ;(

/mourns Firefly!!


Heh!

I canceled HBO because of the way they were canceling shows with no warning whatsoever, like Deadwood, Carnivale and John From Cincinnatti.
No reason to watch any of their stuff anymore since it might be gone at the drop of a hat.

I was very disappointed to see Deadwood go.

I'm tempted to watch the last 10 episodes over of Chuck off of Hulu. I missed two episodes during that run.

The following post is NSFW!!!!!























Dollhouse!!!

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I have a daughter 34 years old. Does that make me a bad person for being drawn to Eliza? :eek:

I have a daughter 34 years old. Does that make me a bad person for being drawn to Eliza? :eek:

Just so long as Eliza isn't your daughter.

I'm tempted to watch the last 10 episodes over of Chuck off of Hulu. I missed two episodes during that run.

I watched the last 8 or so over the past couple days, while monitoring the revolution in progress. You're right, it got a lot better in the last few.

While we're discussing shows that are likely to be canceled, Kings is my favorite show right now, but due to terrible marketing it's almost certain to be canceled. The ads made me think it was going to be something like what if the US had a Monarchy instead of democracy, but it's more a modern day retelling of a biblical story, including the badass old testament god. But if the 14 episodes finish the way that one would expect (it's a retelling of david and goliath) then that actually might be end up being good in the long run, since the show would be without it's best actor and character if they continued past that point.

I'm also going to have to check out Deadwood, Ian McShane is great.

One of the critics that was talking about shows likely to be canceled mentioned what a shame it was that Deadwood got pulled out from under Ian McShane, and now that he has another vehicle it too may be yanked. He is too good of an actor to keep losing out.

That same critic said that there is no way they can cancel Sarah Connor, because we already lost one of the only two robot shows on TV (BSG), and we must keep at least one robot program available. :p



And yes, Ian McShane was simply fantastic in his role as Al Swearingen in 'Deadwood'. And, believe or not, I actually have an Al Swearingen on my mail route; I smile every day when delivering his mail.

Al Sweringen is the best cock sucker i have ever had the privledge to watch on TV.

Anyone see the new Hulu ad? I can't help but think they wouldn't have spent the money on that if they were gonna pull the show next season. Look at the other ads they've done: Family Guy and 30 Rock, which aren't going anywhere.

How does crap like Family Guy continue, when good shows get shut down?

I've been enjoying Kings, but I had the exact same reaction to the ads they ran.

The last 2 episodes of Dollhouse had some kind of... Joss 'spark', something I saw in the early Buffy's and later Angel eps. I liked it.

Nonetheless, I am only continuing to watch in the hopes that it gets better, rather than watching because it *is* better.

Something of a derail, but still in the Joss Whedon vein, I happened to look at my e-mail this morning, being bored and figuring it was probably time to delete some stuff, and there was an announcement from Amazon that the collector's boxed set of the five seasons of Angel was being offered for $56 and some change. I figured, $11 per season, why not. Normally it goes for around $139.

Just a heads up, which I should have given this morning.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I've been forced to sit through (or at least be subjected to while they were on) three 'Dollhouse' episodes so far and as nearly as I can tell the whole show is an excuse for Eliza Dushku to parade around in various costumes (bondage gear, in the last I saw) with those impossibly perky boobs and an utterly vacuous look on her face from (the convenient excuse of, for the sake of her 'acting' skills) either having just been, or about to be, memorywiped.

Am I missing anything here or is this just 'RealDoll surfs to Rome'?

Regards,
Nydia

Yeah, they dropped the ball on this series, I think.

There are some flashes of the Whedon creativity now and then, but not enough to really maintain the show. I thought it was going to have some fun elements when I saw Amy Acker was included in the cast (Fred from Angel) but they have kept her to a minimal role.

Yeah, Eliza is not doing much to expand her resume' with her acting in this, I am afraid. Much to my dismay, I'll add. I had high hopes.

I've stopped watching.

Just watch Bones, it's got all the Whedon magic without being Whedon, and it's got Boreanaz - and some extremely dry and subtle humour, and great chemistry between the leads.

As well as deep Whedon character plots (again, without there being Whedon) and, something which is rare, good story lines.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I've been forced to sit through (or at least be subjected to while they were on) three 'Dollhouse' episodes so far and as nearly as I can tell the whole show is an excuse for Eliza Dushku to parade around in various costumes (bondage gear, in the last I saw) with those impossibly perky boobs and an utterly vacuous look on her face from (the convenient excuse of, for the sake of her 'acting' skills) either having just been, or about to be, memorywiped.

Am I missing anything here or is this just 'RealDoll surfs to Rome'?

Regards,
Nydia


Jealousy rears it's ugly ugly head at last.

We've quit watching too... boring. Just leave me with House and Deadliest Catch cancel what you want.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8053531.stm

- Some good news, some bad news.
I really think Scrubs has had its day, and returning it with only half the cast? That is disastrous!
A new show for Kelsey Grammer! About time. I'll look forward to this.
And...dun dun dun....second series for Dollhouse. That's...interesting.

Thoughts?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8053531.stm


A new show for Kelsey Grammer! About time. I'll look forward to this.

And...dun dun dun....second series for Dollhouse. That's...interesting.




Scrubs was great, but there is really only so much you can do with plotlines in a hospital with doctors, and it does start to get stale.

And speaking of stale, will Kelsey Grammer be doing Frasier v.5 now?
I have never seen him do any other character.

And I am happy to hear they are returning Dollhouse. Perhaps it will find itself in a second season, much as Buffy grew stronger with time; it does have a strong enough premise that can offer many stories, but the acting needs to be more the level of the last episode (or two) and not the bored appearance of the initial episodes. And, YAY for developing Amy Acker's character and giving her background; it blew me away to learn the doctor was an imprinted personality. She has a much greater chance of some story lines now in the coming season(s).

I'm *so* into Bones at the moment, the season finale was very WHEDONISH, I'm positive he has some creative influence unofficially, it has his imprint all over it. Seriouslt watch Bones, it's just been renewed for 2 more season by Fox (the fourth has just ended).

Dollhouse is back with a new season, and last night's episode did a lot to fill out the character played by Amy Acker, and her relationship(?) with the good little personality programmer, who also had his character developed a bit more.

And, we continue to see Echo's "awakening" to what is going on, and her desire to make sense of things.

Last night gave me sufficient motivation to tune in again next week.

mmmm amy acker.

I made a decision not to follow this anymore, last season. I hope it does turn itself around, but there is simply not enough of the Old Whedon magic to pump this machine up. Why? No idea. Maybe the premise was just too difficult a concept to transform into a watchable series.

I'm all about Bones right now, it's bloody brilliant.

Heroes is off to a good start this season, I think. Not sure how I feel about the goofball from prison break being a major character, but we'll see. I also really like Ray Park having a speaking role, doesn't happen very often.

I made a decision not to follow this anymore, last season. I hope it does turn itself around, but there is simply not enough of the Old Whedon magic to pump this machine up. Why? No idea. Maybe the premise was just too difficult a concept to transform into a watchable series.

I'm all about Bones right now, it's bloody brilliant.

I can't get into Bones. They really feel like caricatures not characters - kinda like CSI Miami.

I can't get into Bones. They really feel like caricatures not characters - kinda like CSI Miami.


LOL, yeah, David Caruso is such a talented actor.:rolleyes: He might be almost able to portray a cardboard cutout, but it might be a stretch.

And while I really liked Emily Proctor when she played a young Republican lawyer on "West Wing", this role does nothing to show her ability.


But then, there are still people wanting to watch "Ghost Whisperer", with the 'alleged' actress Jennifer Love Hewitt. Her best role in my opinion was in Sister Act II, with Whoopi Goldberg. (Hint: she had one line)

'I can't get into Bones. They really feel like caricatures not characters - kinda like CSI Miami.'

- You're way off Kel. The storylines are gripping, and I reckon one of the most talented casts for a long time.
The infusion of far more humour to lighten up the darker premise is winning it a shit load more viewers these past 2 years. Watch Season 3 or 4, they are the best yet and seriously good TV.

The "gripping storylines" are still irrelevant to me, since they feel like caricatures not characters. No humans would ever act the way Bones and Booth do.

Gave up on this as well... Already Watching House and the CSI's.

'The "gripping storylines" are still irrelevant to me, since they feel like caricatures not characters. No humans would ever act the way Bones and Booth do.'

- What, logically or passionately?

Kinda like how life is on a greyscale, yet they are very black and white ... with the contrast turned WAAAAAAAY up. She's a robot and he's a clown. Some people may like it, I'm too critical due to my job so I'm not one of them.

Just shows you don't watch it - they are infact all shades of grey.

But let's agree to disagree :P

I've seen probably as many episodes as you if not more, never mind that I actually worked behind the scenes on it one day a few years ago.

'I've seen probably as many episodes as you if not more'

- So you've seen every episode up until the latest one, season 5, ep 2?
And you don't like it? Do you just have a lot of spare time on your hands?

I have a girlfriend who watches it :\ Worse, she also keeps the reruns on TNT on while I make dinner.

I have a girlfriend who watches it :\ Worse, she also keeps the reruns on TNT on while I make dinner.


HINT: Get a David Boreanaz mask/costume for Halloween, and rock her world!

:D

Summer Glau will be joining the DollHouse cast in the near future. (I believe they said in three weeks)

Eliza and Summer......mmmm, what delicious fantasies that allows! :devil

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ibd4c93af8a3194fa8f32bc3b11c6126a

"Dollhouse" is closing its doors at Fox.

The network has canceled Joss Whedon's cult fave, which in May beat the odds with a second-season pickup despite low ratings.

The sci-fi series, which is filming episode 11, will finish its 13-episode order.

"Yes. Canceled. Sad but true," tweeted Maurissa Tancharoen, a writer on "Dollhouse" who is married to Whedon's brother Jed Whedon, also a writer on the show.

...

Whedon, who had been rumored to be working on a sequel to the Emmy-winning Internet project, said on Wednesday he is "off to pursue internet ventures/binge drinking" following the end of the Fox series.

I guess it was only a matter of time.

Crap! I was so looking forward to how they would utilize Summer Glau with the others in the cast. <insert drooling leer here>

Maybe that's included in some of the final episodes. Don't give up hope!

Fuck Fox.

Wasnt it Fox that axed Firefly?

If so, eff Whedon for continuing for going back to them!!

Summer Glau had a role in Dollhouse tonight that surprised me, and actually fit better than being just another 'doll' pretty face. Too bad this is coming to an end, because there is a lot of potential for story lines; just not good enough acting, and writing is only average.

Those last two episodes were really great. That's a show I would actually watch.

Wasnt it Fox that axed Firefly?

If so, eff Whedon for continuing for going back to them!!

Well, going with a network willing to actually buy his shows is a lot better than the other option: no network willing to buy his shows.

Damn, it is too bad they did not have episodes like the last two weeks' earlier in the run. It might have attracted a larger audience.