I am watching his speech right now on MSNBC, and it is the most beautiful thing I have seen in a long time... The longest so far that there has been no protest during his speech has been 1-2 minutes.

There is constant yelling and protesting and it is LOUD as he is trying to speak. Feels so good to see his face as he tries to speak over the protesters.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.


Yes I agree, his speech was disgusting, thank God that people are patriotic enough to openly protest Bush/Cheney and the criminal acts they have perpetrated on our great country. I'm sure, Os, with your conservative Goldwater'esqe outlook on our country that you agree with those of us who still believe the Constituition holds value.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/07/04/vo.bush.protesters.cnn

What I find disgusting is that the office of the Presidency is no longer shown respect. It is not the person in the office that matters; but, the office itself is one of the most respected and revered positions in the world these last four or five decades, and the heckling of the President like he is a comedian in a nightclub is definitely disgusting. Wait until the speech is finished and then boo, hiss, scream, or whatever; to do so in the midst of the speech shows only an ego craving attention, and not a legitimate attempt to raise an issue or make a point.

Everyone here knows how much I despise Bush and Cheney, but I would not consider disrupting their 4th of July speech to voice my discontent. The office deserves respect, even if the holder of the office is unworthy.

What I find disgusting is that the office of the Presidency is no longer shown respect. It is not the person in the office that matters; but, the office itself is one of the most respected and revered positions in the world these last four or five decades, and the heckling of the President like he is a comedian in a nightclub is definitely disgusting. Wait until the speech is finished and then boo, hiss, scream, or whatever; to do so in the midst of the speech shows only an ego craving attention, and not a legitimate attempt to raise an issue or make a point.

Everyone here knows how much I despise Bush and Cheney, but I would not consider disrupting their 4th of July speech to voice my discontent. The office deserves respect, even if the holder of the office is unworthy.

The office deserves what the holder of said office deserves. There is no magical protection bubble over the presidency leaving it untouchable from anger and protest.

What I find disgusting is that the office of the Presidency is no longer shown respect. It is not the person in the office that matters; but, the office itself is one of the most respected and revered positions in the world these last four or five decades, and the heckling of the President like he is a comedian in a nightclub is definitely disgusting. Wait until the speech is finished and then boo, hiss, scream, or whatever; to do so in the midst of the speech shows only an ego craving attention, and not a legitimate attempt to raise an issue or make a point.

Everyone here knows how much I despise Bush and Cheney, but I would not consider disrupting their 4th of July speech to voice my discontent. The office deserves respect, even if the holder of the office is unworthy.

The office of the president is an elected office, an office held by OUR elected representative. Bush has not acted in good faith in that office and as it is the right of those who spoke out, quite truthfully, there is nothing wrong with what they did.

When should someone protest? After the speaker is gone? That is kind of defeating the purpose. I think what most bothers people is that Bush seems to have no consience and has little if any caring or respect for the american people, the american military or anyone who isn't a friend of the Bush family.

as it is the right of those who spoke out, quite truthfully, there is nothing wrong with what they did.

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You are splitting hairs here, Rover. In fact, you yourself used to make many of the arguments I still do; and, this particular argument has to do with respect, not someone's rights or whether an act was right or wrong.

We have allowed an entire generation to lose sight of respect for country, elders, veterans (tho' that is getting a bit better), the flag, the Presidency, and many other subjects that were automatic respect getters back in the day; now, it is a "me first" attitude (what I have to say is more important than what you have to say), and with the inundation of polarizing political discourse these last two decades there is no longer a veneration or general attitude of respect for any elected politicians, or even judges.

And as for jedd's reply, that is the shallow kind of thinking that keeps me wanting to toss flames his way. It shows how little he knows of "his" country compared to his vast knowledge of Iran and it's customs and history and traditions.

It is sad that people have grown so distant from and disenchanted with their own democracy they cannot separate the man (or woman) from the office.

I'm sorry there is some sort of poetic justice for me to have the day we disrespected Englands crown by saying "sod off" and having people heckle/protest Bush, almost seems an appropriate time to do so.

I'm sorry there is some sort of poetic justice for me to have the day we disrespected Englands crown by saying "sod off" and having people heckle/protest Bush, almost seems an appropriate time to do so.

Ok, I am compelled to toss a +hit to you for that Grey; nice to see some context rather than the same old same old polarized animosity.

Sorry, the 4th of July isn't about Pres Bush and anyone taking this time instead of the gajillion other moments in a year to play the jackass sickens me.

Yes I understand the ire with Bush, but fuck off for soiling a 232 year National Birthday party.

He's gone in a few months folks, but our nation lives on despite the disrespect shown here. I'm afraid I'd have busted a few heads, and subsequently spent time in jail, for someone fucking up my 4th festivities because they got their Freedom of Speech jolies. Bravo ya fucking polished turds.

We lived through Carter, Bush Sr, Clinton and now we'll live through Bush Jr. They are merely burps in the history of time.

Our Nation abides, dude!! errr yeah stole that line and modified it a tidge.

Had to watch it before I reacted...I'd almost rather get an enema than watch that man speak. As much as I hate Bush and what he stands for and has done, the 4th of July is about celebrating this country and was has made it great. If this was you average run of the mill political speech, I would say he reaps what he has sown as the worst president ever.

I am in agreement with Fandros and others, there's a time and a place for that kind of protest...the 4th of July is not the time. Let's hope the discontent with his ilk, which McCain is every day becoming, is shown in the coming election. I don't think Obama will be a great president, but average will be a phenomenal step in the right direction.

I can see both sides of this one.

Ultimately, being docile in the name of the status quo seems to be a terribly hypocritical way of celebrating the 4th. What if the forefathers had similarly stood on ceremony, in deference to King George (ironic) and England?

It's worth keeping in mind that the men who gave us the 4th of July held dissent to be one of the highest forms of patriotism.