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Osgiliath666
06-08-2009, 11:20 PM
On 8 June 2009, Pvt. William Long, who was murdered in a Muslim terrorist attack on a military recruiting center in Little Rock on 1 June 2009, was laid to rest. Obama refused to attend the soldier's funeral.

On 5 June 2009, the Judicial Confirmation Network revealed that Judge Sotomayor had concealed from the Senate Judiciary Committee a 1981 memo in which she claimed the death penalty was "racist" and not in keeping with the "humanist" ideology to which she subscribes.

On 5 June 2009, Obama's nominee for the top intelligence post in the Department of Homeland Security, Philip Mudd, was forced to withdraw his name from nomination because it was revealed he was involved in the CIA's enhanced interrogations of terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, which Obama has stated were torture.

Lleauric
06-09-2009, 06:42 AM
this shouldnt be in the FFA section why?

Greystone Thorngage
06-09-2009, 07:57 AM
On 8 June 2009, Pvt. William Long, who was murdered in a Muslim terrorist attack on a military recruiting center in Little Rock on 1 June 2009, was laid to rest. Obama refused to attend the soldier's funeral.

He can't logistically go to every funeral.

On 5 June 2009, the Judicial Confirmation Network revealed that Judge Sotomayor had concealed from the Senate Judiciary Committee a 1981 memo in which she claimed the death penalty was "racist" and not in keeping with the "humanist" ideology to which she subscribes.

OK, so shes against the death penalty and feels it has racial bias....and?

On 5 June 2009, Obama's nominee for the top intelligence post in the Department of Homeland Security, Philip Mudd, was forced to withdraw his name from nomination because it was revealed he was involved in the CIA's enhanced interrogations of terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, which Obama has stated were torture.

another and? He picked a guy based off a resume, yes a staff member was supposed to clear this guy it didnt, and he withdrew before any problem.

Man you are scraping the bottom of the barrel..

Let me predict tomorrow.

On 10 June 2009 A cat is killed in an accident by a military transport in Alabama. Obama didnt attend the burial in the back yard of voter John Villente.

On 10 June 2009 Someone in the Obama regime farted in the oval office, as a result 47 surfers drowned off the Geart Barrier Reef in Australia.

Smidget
06-09-2009, 08:18 AM
Obama refused to attend the soldier's funeral. bush went to zero funerals for soldiers during his 8 years in the white house, but somehow that was ok?

Sanchek
06-09-2009, 11:13 AM
He picked a guy based off a resume, yes a staff member was supposed to clear this guy it didnt, and he withdrew before any problem.

His whole defense for the inexperience thing was how he was going to surround himself with good people, yet has managed to foul even that up quite a few times so far.

If we were just electing a motivational speaker to talk to the camera and process resumes, I would've voted for Tony Robbins.

Jedd Corpse
06-09-2009, 12:02 PM
His whole defense for the inexperience thing was how he was going to surround himself with good people, yet has managed to foul even that up quite a few times so far.

If we were just electing a motivational speaker to talk to the camera and process resumes, I would've voted for Tony Robbins.

I'm sure McCain and Palin would be better leaders....

Greystone Thorngage
06-09-2009, 12:12 PM
His whole defense for the inexperience thing was how he was going to surround himself with good people, yet has managed to foul even that up quite a few times so far.

If we were just electing a motivational speaker to talk to the camera and process resumes, I would've voted for Tony Robbins.

Seriously? OK you can only get so much info until they REALLY go in depth and the background check. You think Edwards would of had support if people knew AHEAD of time about his adultory.

Sanchek
06-09-2009, 12:18 PM
I'm sure McCain and Palin would be better leaders....

And Mugabe would've been worse than Bush, therefore Bush was good?

Sanchek
06-09-2009, 12:19 PM
Seriously? OK you can only get so much info until they REALLY go in depth and the background check. You think Edwards would of had support if people knew AHEAD of time about his adultory.

You clearly have never had your background checked by the Federal government. They don't just call one of your references and call it a day.

Fandros
06-09-2009, 12:33 PM
bush went to zero funerals for soldiers during his 8 years in the white house, but somehow that was ok?

I'm pretty sure that's a false statement. Not only did he go to funerals but he also made many trips to the VA hospitals to visit wth the servicemen.

Fandros
06-09-2009, 12:35 PM
You clearly have never had your background checked by the Federal government. They don't just call one of your references and call it a day.

Man, Background checks are so thorough they nearly go down to a cellular level on not only you but anyone you have ever associated with. It takes up to 6 months to actually complete a thorough Federal gov background check.

Sanchek
06-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Man, Background checks are so thorough they nearly go down to a cellular level on not only you but anyone you have ever associated with. It takes up to 6 months to actually complete a thorough Federal gov background check.

Yep. I had to get a security clearance to do some of my research work in college. It was the damn inquisition.

Rover
06-09-2009, 02:19 PM
Man, Background checks are so thorough they nearly go down to a cellular level on not only you but anyone you have ever associated with. It takes up to 6 months to actually complete a thorough Federal gov background check.


Mine involved interviews of my neighbors, random school teachers etc... very thorough.

Taleren Bloodsong
06-09-2009, 03:33 PM
I've been interviewed for neighbors that I had met one or two times prior to said interview for background checks.

Smidget
06-09-2009, 08:38 PM
I'm pretty sure that's a false statement. Not only did he go to funerals but he also made many trips to the VA hospitals to visit wth the servicemen. He's gone to hospitals, but never funerals of servicemen.In an exclusive interview, Bush sat down with Stars and Stripes to answer questions solicited from U.S. troops now downrange, including the one asking whether he had ever attended a slain soldier's funeral.

President Bush has met hundreds of families of fallen soldiers, but he has yet to attend a servicemember's funeral, he said. Source (http://www.snopes.com/politics/humor/marine.asp)

Kelraz Bladesinger
06-09-2009, 09:20 PM
Sanchek I think you are confusing the vetting process with a government security clearance background check. The nominee already had his security clearance. I'm pretty certain they can't legally utilize the FBI and their background check team for political vetting of nominees.

White House staff is staggeringly small for the ammount of work they process, I'd be surprised if they spend more than a few weeks on each nominee (certainly not six months).

Sanchek
06-09-2009, 09:41 PM
So you're saying that in "a few weeks", they couldn't discern that this guy was previously involved in one of the current hot political issues? Do you really believe that? What do you think they were vetting? His shoe size and favorite color?

Kelraz Bladesinger
06-09-2009, 10:22 PM
No, I was saying you were confusing the vetting process with a government security clearance - which you were.

Sanchek
06-09-2009, 10:29 PM
I see how you thought I was suggesting he was getting a security clearance, but I wasn't. Just pointing out that Federal government vetting processes are not like getting a job at McDonald's.

Something as huge as this should have been discovered almost instantly, by Obama's administration. He talked a lot of talk about how he was going to surround himself with good people to negate the inexperience issue, but has done a crappy job of it so far.

Lleauric
06-09-2009, 10:44 PM
Something like what? Like his undefined involvement in a top secret interrogation program? Give me a break.

As far a crappy job. Ok. Whatever. You are watching one of the smoothest most efficient administrations in at least 16 years. He is right on par with where he should be as far as staffing.

And what people are you specifically referencing? Seems to me he has some damn good people in the right places.

Osgiliath666
06-10-2009, 08:53 AM
During a conference call with reporters on 8 June 2009, Biden stated that he did not understand how the Obama regime was coming up with its estimate of jobs created or saved. He said figuring out the number was "above [his] pay grade." On 7 June 2009, Secretary of Homeland Security Napolitano swore in to the Homeland Security Advisory Council pro-jihad Syrian immigrant Kareem Shora, a front man for the so-called American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) who is closely linked to Rashid Khalidi, a jihadist who operated with the PLO against Israel. The ADC says Muslims who slaughter infidels are "heroes." On 9 June 2009, the Wall Street Journal called the Obama regime's claims of jobs created or saved "pure fiction" and "phony."

After Obama's speech in Cairo, Secretary of State Clinton held a conference call to discuss the speech. One of those invited to participate was Esam Omeish, a Muslim al Qaeda apologist who told a crowd "the jihad way is the way to liberate your land." He went on to tell Palestinian terrorists attacking Israel "We are with you, we are supporting you and we will do everything that we can, insha'Allah (God willing), to help your cause."


OMFG! Obama is God? ROFL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzoAO6d5wy0&feature=related

Greystone Thorngage
06-10-2009, 09:18 AM
You know what cracks me up, if my cousin who i grew up with and was close, started dealing drugs, suddenly i am closely linked with a drug dealer..

Rover
06-10-2009, 09:56 AM
You know what cracks me up, if my cousin who i grew up with and was close, started dealing drugs, suddenly i am closely linked with a drug dealer..

This is what happens in the chickenhawk coop. They know nothing of reality only what they fantasize about in their minds.

Of course they would never post facts such as:

Pro-western candidates elected in Lebanon. In an election that seemed to heavily favor Hezbollah candidates there was an upset attributed to President Obama's speech to muslims. A pro western government won the election hands down showing that Obama's pragmatic approach to the worlds muslims is a viable option over republican calls for war against islam.

Pakistani civilians in a stunning reversal have taken up arms against Taliban extremists fighting them and winning in the Swat valley. Obama's common sense speech has once again played a part in the muslim community and their views on religious extremism.

In a direct attack on Americas manufacturing base and hard working middle class Americans republican radio host Hugh Hewitt started a campaign to boycott General Motors and Chrysler to push forth a failure of the Obama administrations efforts to assist the average American and save their jobs. Other prominent and influential republicans are joining Hewitts call to punish the middle class. Strangely enough the republicans have not suggested or opposed the bailout of wall st banks even going so far as to hold "Tea Party" rallies supporting corporate largess and any regulation of the current banking system.

In an attack on Americans right to quality health care republican members of congress have stated that allowing a single payer program for the American people would end up hurting the huge profits of insurance giants because it would cause lower health care costs due to the governments plans having much lower administrative costs. Wasn't their old argument that government health care would drive costs up?

Rybit
06-10-2009, 02:24 PM
I remember when I had to apply for my security clearance with the government--the entire process took all of two months. The fingerprinting part was the easiest of it...

Sanchek
06-10-2009, 02:47 PM
Something like what? Like his undefined involvement in a top secret interrogation program? Give me a break.

As far a crappy job. Ok. Whatever. You are watching one of the smoothest most efficient administrations in at least 16 years. He is right on par with where he should be as far as staffing.

And what people are you specifically referencing? Seems to me he has some damn good people in the right places.

Daschle
Killefer
Richardson
Gregg
Now, this guy...

I'm pretty sure there were a couple more, but forget.

None of them matter as much as Geithner though, and he's no different than Paulson. They are both on exactly the same, wrong page, right there with Bernanke.

How many times did Obama decry "8 years of George Bush policies" that got us into this economic mess? Then he takes off and perpetuates precisely the same school of economic thinking in his administration of "change"? Awesome.

Greystone Thorngage
06-10-2009, 03:02 PM
How many times did Obama decry "8 years of George Bush policies" that got us into this economic mess? Then he takes off and perpetuates precisely the same school of economic thinking in his administration of "change"? Awesome.

wait...Bush wanted to dump a bunch of money into the system, revamp our infrastructure and create potential employment situations....wow i must of completely missed taht.!~

Sanchek
06-10-2009, 03:23 PM
Obama has only accelerated the same deficit spending mistakes that Bush was making in 2008 (and all along if you count the war).

You can "hope" all you want that this is magically going to fix things, but all signs point the opposite direction. We're so desperate that we're sending people in person to beg China to keep buying our inflated treasuries at low yields now. There is no way we're going to be able bandage up a fundamentally broken system and get back to business as usual.

Rover
06-10-2009, 03:32 PM
Judd Greg was an obvious set-up...and not everyone you hire works out...that's just the way things go. It's about how you respond to mistakes not so much whether you make them and Obama has shown an ability to correct and recover from mistakes.

Deficit spending is spending borrowed money...a loan. Sometimes it is necessary to stabilize a situation with a loan and implement programs for a long term viability. The cost of new Anderson energy efficient windows far outweighs the savings in one year, but over time it becomes a prudent move. Hopefully that is what Obama is doing.

I agree with Sanchek on Geithner and Bernanke...hopefully the mistake will be corrected.

Sanchek
06-10-2009, 03:44 PM
Deficit spending is spending borrowed money...a loan. Sometimes it is necessary to stabilize a situation with a loan and implement programs for a long term viability. The cost of new Anderson energy efficient windows far outweighs the savings in one year, but over time it becomes a prudent move. Hopefully that is what Obama is doing.

I could get behind that sort of plan. I'd love to see a dollars and sense analysis supporting that being the scenario, because it would be the most sensible our government has acted in my lifetime.

From my perspective, it looks like panic and confusion, trying to throw money in every direction to placate us. That'd be alright too, if we had the money. Creating it through inflation and long-term debt is a completely different story.

I think if someone like AIG were doing this, you would be enraged; absolutely livid. You're giving Obama more of a pass than he deserves on this, because you like him. That's his angle of course, making a different group like him than the group that liked Bush. Don't fall for it.

Smidget
06-10-2009, 04:12 PM
wait...Bush wanted to dump a bunch of money into the system, revamp our infrastructure and create potential employment situations....wow i must of completely missed that.!~ Have you already forgotten the bailouts to save bankers from having to work for a living? And to save banks from the consequences of their own decisions?

Lleauric
06-10-2009, 04:24 PM
San.

None of those guys you listed made it to the conformation hearings. Obamas administration DID uncover problems. Thats like, you know.. why they didnt make it to the hearings and instead withdrew.

Gregg? Shit, you figure that one out. The dude begged for the job, then withdrew. Not really sure how that is Obamas fault.

Daschle and Killefer didnt do anything that would normally disqualify a person or in any way effected their qualifications. Their withdraw had 100% to do with political environment. They expended a lot of political capital on Geitner, who was without a doubt, the most qualified person for the job. The fight on the next two, also for pretty minor tax error issues, would have a distraction and a chance for political grandstanding so they withdrew as candidates rather than make the staffing process a circus.

Sanchek
06-10-2009, 04:27 PM
Geitner, who was without a doubt, the most qualified person for the job.

Wait, what?

Lleauric
06-10-2009, 04:51 PM
Qualification wise.. look at the mans resume.. was there anyone with a better background to handle the job than him?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/us/politics/07geithner.html

for this specific crisis, there was NOBODY with a better suited set of experience.

Sanchek
06-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Qualification wise, most of the financiers who got us into this mess all have perfect resumes to handle that job too. We're fighting fire with fire here.

Even the article you posted points out that Geithner was hands on with financial decisions in 2008 that Obama supporters generally lambast. The guy and his whole ilk are fundamentally antithetical to the notion of change.

Rover
06-10-2009, 05:05 PM
I think if someone like AIG were doing this, you would be enraged; absolutely livid. You're giving Obama more of a pass than he deserves on this, because you like him. That's his angle of course, making a different group like him than the group that liked Bush. Don't fall for it.

Well...AIG is a something definitely not a someone. What AIG and wall st banks did was knowingly and willfully defraud people, they produce nothing. These are not local community banks that have the public interest in mind as much as they do a profit.

I'm not giving Obama a pass, I watch his decisions and I've come out here and clearly stated I don't like how he is handling the financial crisis. It is simply welfare and socialism for the exceedingly wealthy while at the same time ignoring the foreclosures and the other real problems.

Sanchek
06-10-2009, 05:07 PM
I thought you were saying that you think he might be handling it well when you said this:

Deficit spending is spending borrowed money...a loan. Sometimes it is necessary to stabilize a situation with a loan and implement programs for a long term viability. The cost of new Anderson energy efficient windows far outweighs the savings in one year, but over time it becomes a prudent move. Hopefully that is what Obama is doing.

I'm not really opposed to the notion that he might be well suited for other aspects of the job. Talking, instead of bombing, for instance.

It's just that he's screwing up the one thing that is singularly more important than the rest combined right now.

Rover
06-10-2009, 05:11 PM
I thought you were saying that you think he might be handling it well when you said this:



I'm not really opposed to the notion that he might be well suited for other aspects of the job. Talking, instead of bombing, for instance.

It's just that he's screwing up the one thing that is singularly more important than the rest combined right now.

Clarifying it...IF he is doing what I posted would be a good thing...if it's just rhetoric...well then that takes it in a different direction, but I do think he is being genuine.

Osgiliath666
06-10-2009, 09:39 PM
On 9 June 2009, the Obama regime announced it had made a deal with the government of Palau to accept 17 Uighur Muslims from Guantanamo who had been captured at places like Tora Bora fighting alongside al Qaeda. News reports then stated that the regime had bribed the Palau government with $200 million in aid and that the leader of Palau was being very deceptive when he said his government was taking the terrorists as a humanitarian act. That work's out to about $12 million/terrorist.

Jedd Corpse
06-10-2009, 10:10 PM
On 9 June 2009, the Obama regime announced it had made a deal with the government of Palau to accept 17 Uighur Muslims from Guantanamo who had been captured at places like Tora Bora fighting alongside al Qaeda. News reports then stated that the regime had bribed the Palau government with $200 million in aid and that the leader of Palau was being very deceptive when he said his government was taking the terrorists as a humanitarian act. That work's out to about $12 million/terrorist.

uh... They are innocent according to the government, and they are being released to Palau...

Kelraz Bladesinger
06-10-2009, 10:14 PM
uh... They are innocent according to the government, and they are being released to Palau...

Why the hell do you even reply to him?

On 9 June 2009, Osgilliath posted boring useless crap, again.

Osgiliath666
06-10-2009, 10:57 PM
Why the hell do you even reply to him?

On 9 June 2009, Osgilliath posted boring useless crap, again.

Not to those who actually care for this country.....

Kelraz Bladesinger
06-10-2009, 11:11 PM
Wank wank wank ... if your heart bleeds red, white, and blue so much I'd love to see a copy of your enlistment papers. Or see a campaign flyer where you ran for office. Or you know, a picture of you with a book open so you could do some fucking fact checking.

Please ignore this post and reply with all the other stuff Obama supposedly did which is so god damn awful on June 10th.

Greystone Thorngage
06-10-2009, 11:47 PM
Not to those who actually care for this country.....

horseshit man...you know we all care about this country and you weren't saying shit when Bush was ruining this country, you were supporting him up until the point where most of the GOP started distancing themselves from Bush.. So don't give me that bull shit.

Osgiliath666
06-13-2009, 03:49 AM
On 11 June 2009, the AP reported on Obama's quiet firing of AmeriCorps Inspector General Gerald Walpin, who had blown the whistle on huge amounts of funds wasted and spent illegally by Obama supporter and Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, and other highly unethical goings-on. Reports also indicated Michelle Obama was involved in the scandal.

Kelraz Bladesinger
06-13-2009, 08:05 AM
On 13 June 2009, unable to think for himself, Osgiliath refused to answer the questions put forth to him by his peers.

Rover
06-13-2009, 09:28 AM
On 11 June 2009, the AP reported on Obama's quiet firing of AmeriCorps Inspector General Gerald Walpin, who had blown the whistle on huge amounts of funds wasted and spent illegally by Obama supporter and Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, and other highly unethical goings-on. Reports also indicated Michelle Obama was involved in the scandal.



Appears to be pretty good reason to fire him, looks like the US Attorney would agree also.

"We also highlighted numerous questions and further investigation they needed to conduct, including the fact that they had not done an audit to establish how much AmeriCorps money was actually misspent," Acting U.S. Attorney Lawrence Brown said in an April 29 letter to the federal counsel of inspectors general.


Walpin's office made repeated public comments just before the Sacramento mayoral election, prompting the U.S. attorney's office to inform the media that it did not intend to file any criminal charges.

Kevin Hiestand, chairman of the board of St. HOPE Academy, said in a statement it was "about time" Walpin was removed. "Mr. Walpin's allegations were meritless and clearly motivated by matters beyond an honest assessment of our program," he said.

Seems there was political motivation in the Inspector Generals investigation and an obvious attempt to influence an election at a local level. Odd that a Bush appointee would use a position like inspector general in a political way :/

Osgiliath666
06-15-2009, 10:55 PM
On 13 June 2009, the terrorist regime running Iran, which counts the votes, blatantly stole the election and announced, despite all the widespread discrepancies and irregularities, that terrorist strongman Ahmadinejad had somehow managed to get more than twice the votes as his moderate reformer challenger. Riots immediately broke out as huge numbers of Iranian citizens attacked government forces and demanded democracy and freedom. Obama's response to the election: "We are excited to see what appears to be a robust debate taking place in Iran."

On 13 June 2009, yet another Obama nominee was forced to remove his name from nomination. Donald Remy, Obama's nominee for the post of top Army lawyer, was caught deceiving the Senate Armed Services Committee regarding his connection to Fannie Mae.

Jedd Corpse
06-15-2009, 11:38 PM
On 13 June 2009, the terrorist regime running Iran, which counts the votes, blatantly stole the election and announced, despite all the widespread discrepancies and irregularities, that terrorist strongman Ahmadinejad had somehow managed to get more than twice the votes as his moderate reformer challenger. Riots immediately broke out as huge numbers of Iranian citizens attacked government forces and demanded democracy and freedom. Obama's response to the election: "We are excited to see what appears to be a robust debate taking place in Iran."

Ehhhh wrong...

Obama said that BEFORE the elections concluded.

Osgiliath666
06-17-2009, 10:48 PM
In June 2009, leftist CIA Director Panetta stated in a New Yorker magazine interview that he believed former VP Cheney was almost wishing another massive terrorist attack would take place so his point about national security under the Obama regime would be proven. The public relations firestorm that immediately broke out resulted in the CIA having to issue a statement of denial that fell just short of calling the magazine a liar but not quite.

On 16 June 2009, MSNBC reported on its website that Obama, despite his many guarantees that his regime would be the most open, honest and transparent in history, had adopted the Bush administration's policy of refusing to release the names of White House visitors who had visited Obama in order to influence policy. The watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington promised to sue.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
06-17-2009, 11:38 PM
On 16 June 2009, MSNBC reported on its website that Obama, despite his many guarantees that his regime would be the most open, honest and transparent in history, had adopted the Bush administration's policy of refusing to release the names of White House visitors who had visited Obama in order to influence policy. The watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington promised to sue.


And thus the critics prove themselves to be irrelevant, as they will even criticize President Obama for emulating President Bush's policy, just to be able to find something to criticize. Funny they did not criticize President Bush for the same practice that they do not like under President Obama. Could they be showing some form of prejudice here?