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akipt
09-05-2006, 11:12 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/03/AR2006090300740.html
BAGHDAD, Sept. 3 — U.S. and Iraqi forces have captured a top al-Qaeda leader who ordered the bombing of a Shiite Muslim shrine in Samarra that triggered a wave of ferocious sectarian killings, Iraqi officials said Sunday.

The arrest of Hamed Jumaa Faris Juri al-Saeidi, described by Iraqi officials as the No. 2 leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, was the latest in a series of blows to the Sunni Arab insurgent group, believed responsible for numerous suicide attacks on civilians and other deadly violence. The group's former leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was killed by U.S. forces in June and replaced by Abu Ayyub al-Masri.

"The al-Qaeda organization in Iraq has been seriously weakened and is now suffering from a leadership vacuum," Iraq's national security adviser, Mowaffak al-Rubaie, said at a news conference. Twenty senior al-Qaeda in Iraq fighters have been captured or killed based on information from Saeidi since his arrest within the past few weeks, Iraqi officials said...
Added to our previous huge roll up of AQ after Big Z's death, I think we've kicked their ass devestatingly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/03/AR2006090300740.html
Mahdi, Sistani and other Shiite leaders in the government don't share Washington's perception of a downward spiral. They also don't buy the American sense of urgency — the oft-expressed idea that the new government has only a few months to succeed. Consequently, the many ideas for silver bullets tossed around in the U.S. debate mostly don't interest them.
You could see this in the conversation I joined at Mahdi's suite at the Ritz Carlton hotel. We journalists peppered him with questions about why the formation of a unity government had failed to reduce the violence. We asked about all the options usually talked about in Washington — from a rewrite of the constitution to a partition of the country; from an international conference to the dispatch of more U.S. troops.

For the most part, our queries were politely and somewhat laconically dismissed. Iraq is not in a civil war, Mahdi said, and doesn't need more U.S. troops. It has a constitution and elected government, and thus there is no need for an international conference. As for constitutional reform, the Shiite and Kurd parties that wrote the charter last year are waiting for proposals from Sunni dissidents. Mahdi added: "So far we have heard nothing."

So what is the solution? "Time — that is it," Mahdi replied. "A nation like Iraq needs time. The elections for a permanent government happened eight months ago. We have been in office a few weeks. The people who we have in office have never governed. These people come from oppression and a bad political system. We can't import ministers to Iraq. There will be many mistakes. The Americans made many mistakes, and Iraqis had to support that."

"Our options as Iraqis are that we don't have an exit strategy or any withdrawal timetable," Mahdi said, somewhat bitterly. "We simply go on. . . . It is a process, and brick by brick we are working on it."

Sixee
09-05-2006, 01:54 PM
I wonder if in 3 years we will look back on all this and wonder,"Why were we worried?"
The U.S. took 13 years from the Revolution to a Government in place.
Good thing CNN wasn't in existence back then. Headlines would have read: "Americans" in 13th Year of Stalled Negotiations to Form Government.

Malse
09-05-2006, 07:41 PM
Newspapers did read that back then. But the American republic wasn't formed at gunpoint.

Lleauric
09-05-2006, 08:35 PM
Look, no matter what we do, Iraq is going to be an Iranian puppet. The country is 60% Shia. Iran is an up and coming regional hegemon. There really is no way around that fact. At 70/Barrel for oil we have financed their rise pretty effectively.

Fandros
09-06-2006, 12:25 AM
Anyone else find it rather good timing that we discovered a HUDGE oil deposit in the Gulf this week....


Fandros

velvetsilence
09-06-2006, 01:18 AM
i'd find it much more reassuring if we could find a few billion dollars to support more efforts like this instead.

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

Sixee
09-06-2006, 07:31 AM
It's great we found a huge oil deposit.
Problem is, the environmentalists won't let us get at it.
Or, some representatives like the ones in Florida will be able to incite a riot based on the one in a million chance that there woud be an oil spill devestating enough to reach the Florida coast, thus costing billions in the lost tourist industry.
And as far as electric cars, they would be great if the cost, the maintenance and upkeep on them were compairable to gasoline powered cars.