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Meera M.: Hello Richard. Thanks for contacting Google AdWords. I'm happy to help you.
Richard: hi
Meera M.: I understand you'd like to know why your ads were disapproved.
Richard: yes
Richard: it says I'm phishing.
Meera M.: Let me pull up your account to check that.
Richard: thats crazy
Meera M.: Please wait.
Richard: ok
Meera M.: Thank you for your patience, Richard.
Richard: your welcome
Meera M.: Your ads were disapproved because they were found to promote scamming tactics like 'run your car on water' programs.
Richard: I sell HHO fuel cell kits which supplement the fuel in a car, its not a scam
Meera M.: I'm sorry, Richard.
Richard: how is HHO gas a scam?
Meera M.: Currently, we do not allow the promotion of water for gas.
Meera M.: that can help the mileage of cars.
Meera M.: We have found that most programs like this provide a bad user experience to our users and that is why we do not allow it to be advertised.
Richard: its not water for gas, its supplemental hydrogen fuel added to a car which clearly increase gas mileage as tens of thousands of people use it as well as police departments
Meera M.: I'm again sorry if this is inconvenient for you.
Richard: that is not true, there are no complaints on the internet about hho fuel
Richard: T Boone Pickens promotes it as well as both presidential candidates
Richard: not only that, it is a pateented process
Richard: the only entities against it are oil companies and apparently google
Meera M.: Please give me a moment to recheck this.
Richard: it's green technology which also helps the environment
Meera M.: Please be assured that we only strive to better your satisfaction and user's experience.
Richard: I have not had one single kit returned or complained about in over a year
Meera M.: It is not necessarily in relation to defective sample pieces.
Richard: we fully warranty any manufacturing defects
Meera M.: Studies have shown that the user experience on these HHO kits and water on car programs is poor, and per our policies, we do not allow them to be advertised.
Richard: this is a grass roots technology, I'm surprised at Googles opposition to it
Meera M.: I'm really sorry for the frustration that you have experienced.
Richard: that is not true
Meera M.: I'm afraid we will not be able to allow these ads.
Meera M.: On my part, I shall forward your justifications to the appropriate team.
Meera M.: They will investigate it.
Richard: please show me the studies..and why would people complain to google and not to the people who manufacture and sell it
Meera M.: For more information about this policy, please visit this link
Richard: this is wrong...Google is killing alternative fuels...great..for large corporate entities
Meera M.: Currently, we will not be able to share our research information with you.
Richard: Because you have none
Meera M.: I'm sorry if this is difficult for you.
Richard: I'll take it to the NY Times...thank you
Richard: your name please?
Meera M.: Please understand that Google has policies that have to be complied with, and I hope you will cooperate with us in this.
Meera M.: I'm again sorry if this has been frustrating for you.
Richard: I am cooperating, is there anything that indicates I'm not?
Richard: And why are there other ad words selling this technology?
Meera M.: Thank you for your cooperation.
Meera M.: Some advertisements run on
Meera M.: Google before review.
Richard: 1. Run Your Car on HHO Fuel? NBCreviews.com/HHOFuel Easily Run Your Car on HHO Fuel HHO + Gas/Diesel & Increase Mileage 2. Build A Hydrogen Auto water-powered.com.cn Find Out Which Kits Work. Hydrogen Auto Kits Starts At $49 3. Fuel Save increase-gas-mileage.com.cn DIY Kits & Assembled Units From $50 - $200 Easy Why Pay $1000+
Richard: lol...these have been running for years
Meera M.: Our Specialists are working diligently to review them and take the appropriate action.
Richard: 1. Double Any Car's Mileage Secret Technology They Want to Ban! All Info Needed to Buy or Build $49 car-run-by-water.com.cn 2. Build A Hydrogen Auto Find Out Which Kits Work. Hydrogen auto Kits Starts At $49... hydrogen-generator-car.cn 3. Run Your Vehicle On water Stop Paying High Gas Prices The Best Way to Do It water-to-fuel.com.cn 4. Build A Hydrogen Auto Hydrogen auto Kits Starts At $49... water-powered.cn 5. Hho Fuel Hho Fuel Scam or Miracle? We Review the Top Hho Fuel Sites. Water4Gas-Exposed.com/Hho+Fuel 6. Double Any Car's Mileage Secret Technology They Want to Ban! All Info Needed to Buy or Build $49 better-fuel-economy.com.cn 7. Get 25-80% Better MPG Newest Hydrogen technology changes existing cars into Hydrogen Hybrids www.hydraficient.comGoogle Checkout 8. Run Your Vehicle On water Run Your Vehicle On water Run Your Vehicle On water . alternative-fuel-car.com.cn
Meera M.: This may not help, Richard.
Richard: everything there has been on for months and some for more than a year
Meera M.: I suggest you write an email to us at adwords-support with a screenshot ...
Meera M.: if you find any ads that may possibly violate our policies.
Meera M.: We'd be glad to review them and ensure a fair bidding environment for all advertisers.
Meera M.: adwords-support@google.com*
Richard: I'm shocked that Google is so obviously letting large oil companies exert control like this...amazing..just amazing
Richard: This has been reported on CNN, Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC it works and is far from a scam
Meera M.: I will escalate this to our appropriate team.
Meera M.: I'm sure they will look into your justifications.
Meera M.: I'll appreciate your efforts to comply with our policies.

I'm not surprised. Most "run your car on water!" kits are scams.

I'm not surprised. Most "run your car on water!" kits are scams.

They are? This isn't my advertising account, but I do know people who use this as well as police departments and I'm just wondering how it is a scam? It's supplemental to the gas.

Because they see the word "Hydrogen" and think water?

Because they see the word "Hydrogen" and think water?


Could be, but read what their responses are, they claim they have studies and yet they refuse to provide any data. Google also claims that they receive complaints about HHO gas, why would people complain to them? Look it up on the Internet I did and saw no complaints about HHO gas, the only negative things were on sites that were definately oil leaning sites.

I looked up HHO scams on google and saw pages and pages and pages of links. Many from individuals. Many on blogs, and some from news sites.

I looked up HHO scams on google and saw pages and pages and pages of links. Many from individuals. Many on blogs, and some from news sites.

I see there are many pages under that search term, did you read any of those pages?

A couple of them

So where is the factual proof that it doesn't work, mind you I have seen it and have an HHO kit.

There's a news video on HHOhuntsville.com (done by a news team for a local tv station) that shows a person actually decreasing their mileage by 10 miles per gallon while using a water4gas product. That's more proof that it doesn't work than I've actually seen proving that it does work.

After batting down the hype over startups and DIYers claiming they could run a car on water, PM's senior automotive editor installs a hand-built HHO kit—only to find he was right the first time. Can bad chemistry keep the myth of the water car alive? More heavy testing in the PM garage will tell.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4276846.html?series=19

Popular Mechanics is still out on the issue, in spite of the title of the article.

I think removing the smog supression equipment would be a bad thing, as far as the environment is concerned?

You do realize that HHO huntsville is a site that promotes it.

The reason why it would cut gas mileage is that the unit was installed with no map sensor, which adjusts the fuel mixture basically by over riding the cars computer controlled mixture.

If you add HHO to a car the computer will adjust the mixture to be richer thereby decreasing the gas mileage that is why the need for the map sensor.


See link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW3ONO9BuKg

I guess I should explain myself here.

We are working with four different start-up businesses that specialize in alternative fuels and in more efficient gasoline and oil production.

The HHO fuel supplement was at first kind of "scammy" to me, the manufacturer sent us a kit as we were doing the photo and video work on the product.

I was very skeptical about this, I'm an old motorhead and I can fix anything on a car. Every single objection to this that I put forth was answered with sensible and satisfactory answers, I even asked what does one do in the winter months as the water would freeze, you simply add a few teaspooons of anti-freeze in the water and it won't freeze.

The other thing I was told by someone objecting to it was that it would drain a cars battery, they didn't realize a car runs off of the alternator not the battery.

I assure you this works, it really does. In the case of the police department they say they get 8-9 more mpg out of a car but don't forget a police car probably only gets around 12 mpg withou it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overwhelming majority of the ones advertised online are junk though. It's like the company that sells the solar powered clothes dryer for only $50, and then sends you a clothes line in the mail.

That chatlog reminds me of basically every AdWords or AdSense interaction I've had with Google. They fail so bad at customer service.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overwhelming majority of the ones advertised online are junk though. It's like the company that sells the solar powered clothes dryer for only $50, and then sends you a clothes line in the mail.

That chatlog reminds me of basically every AdWords or AdSense interaction I've had with Google. They fail so bad at customer service.


HAHAHA...that's funny, kind of like Mr. Haney on Green Acres.

There are shitty HHO kits as well as shit versions of everything else but I'm preaching to the choir here.

The ridiculous part I thought was Google claimg they have studies and then refusing to show any documentation.

You do realize that HHO huntsville is a site that promotes it.

The reason why it would cut gas mileage is that the unit was installed with no map sensor, which adjusts the fuel mixture basically by over riding the cars computer controlled mixture.

If you add HHO to a car the computer will adjust the mixture to be richer thereby decreasing the gas mileage that is why the need for the map sensor.


See link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW3ONO9BuKg

Yes I am aware they promote it. They also handle the hoaxes that are out there too. Even if the technology DOES work, there are still tons of hoaxes related too it as well. That's what google is focusing on. Without testing of each product, it's probably easier for google not to advertise similar products because it's hard to differentiate between valid products and the hoaxes.

But you could apply that to almost everything, there is a particular web design company out there that we get alot of customers from them after they rip them off. Google advertises them constantly and they make all kinds of false claims. I'm sure anyone could put together a list of business types that are full od scams so why pick on this?

It probably comes down to the percentage of products/services of a given type are legitimate--does the risk of carrying a particular ad (with no knowledge of the company other than the type of product it offers) outweigh the advertising money Google gains?