Before I get started, just let me say that I do not feel that just because someone can perform a certain service like porting or buffing, that they are entitled to do so upon request. That is not what I am upset about. Let me just tell you the story. Last night, my wife a druid and myself a shammy were helping out a good friend of ours getting a spell comp to drop in Dulak, which we were able to get. Well, we had about an hour before we had to log, so we decided to go to PoN and get a little exp in the time we had left. we get there and everything goes smoothly until we pick up a few adds and my wife and friend go down. Wife is bound in PoK, so when she pops she asks for someone to rez offering donation in return; no response. She does this repeatedly and no one answers. I tell her to offer 500 pp and see what happens, to which she refuses to do saying that 500pp is too much to pay for a couple of rezzes in a fairly easy place to get to. I agreed, but I was going to make a point. so, I gated into PoK and ooc'd that I would pay 500pp for two rezzes. Instantly I am flooded with tells... Point made.
Now I understand and agree that people should be paid for their services, that is not my dispute. But why should people be offered a plat amount to get them respond? Why was the word "donation" not enough? These people were obviously not too busy to come running like rabid dogs for the 500pp, but apparently a bit too consumed with their thumb twiddling to come for a vague donation.
I am not here to pick exclusively on clerics. I have run into this same situation with druids, before my wife and I could two box together, and necros, for a corpse summon. Its not any one class, its the people behind the toon. i guess what im trying to say is if you are too busy to help someone out that has offered a donation for your service, then dont come running when someone else offers a high specific amount. On the same note, if you offer to donate and someone is good enough to help you out, dont throw them a copper and innocently say, "I said for donation". Being stingy is also a form of greed. Perhaps that is why the casters are so reluctant to help out on a "donation" offer. Hmm... Something to ponder.




Frostheart 58 Shaman

People want 500pp because the market has shown to support that. Economics my friend. Shitty yes but it's like baseball. It's a kids game that grown men play making million upon millions to play and owners who charge 5 bucks for a watered down pisswater beer. Why? The market will bare it. Just like you finally offered up 500PP. the clerics will wait patiently for the right money because they know someone WILL offer it and pay it.

/shrug, it happens a lot in eq, some people don't get any kind of joy or happiness out of helping others, just from what they gain. It's alright though, I find myself able to piss these people off quite easily.

A few times, I would ask for help of someone specific and be denied, because they were "busy" while i'd be standing behind them, sitting at a bank or so. Then i'd ooc something like, Paying 2k for a TL to whateverzone, (This was before PoP, mind you) only to recieve a tell from that person, "Oh, I didnt know you were paying, come on over." Then, i'd just say, no thanks, someone else got the tell here first, have a good day though =). You wouldn't believe the amount of profanity that soon followed many times as I ran where I needed to go ;p

Mods, you might want to move this to NAG...

Now I'm an enchanter, and we have our own issues, but to address your question, (as my partner is a cleric main), most higher level working clerics are *flooded* with tells/hails for rezzes, Temperance, Virtue, and the like every time they have the misfortune to be crossing PoK, and not infrequently when they're out on an exp grind. Worse yet, sometimes folks just shove plat in your trade window as if you were a vending machine and expect services.

If you don't play a cleric, you aren't 'entitled' to a rez, period. Perhaps those clerics didn't answer you because they had something else to do with their time? My partner, Faervas, simply won't go out of his way to do rezzes unless it's worth the time he's losing on his exp grind, tradeskill, or whatever else he happened to be working at the time, although if he *encounters* a body in his travels, and isn't swamped at that moment, he will almost always /con it, and if it has time on the rez timer, shoot the person a tell and rez them. He also happily does rezzes in exp zones if someone is willing to drag the corpse to him and he is not getting worked at that moment.

You and your partner choose to play classes that can get good solo/duo experience (and are not grouping a cleric), with the 'cost' being that you have to find a rez when things go south. The cleric doesn't have the option of being able to solo for experience, and worse yet, when he does go out for exp, has to pay out continuously just to keep the group buffed, something that no other class in the game has to do. Proper compensation for clerics and cleric 'greed' in exp groups is another issue entirely, but I think you can see where I'm going here. Clerics have lives too. They don't 'owe' you a rez; you're asking them to take time out of whatever *they* are doing to give you one, and as the previous poster mentioned, it's up to the individual what their time is 'worth'...

Sincerely,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Oh, I just mentioned this to Faervas, and he laughed and said that the reason that he doesn't respond to shouts asking for a rez 'for donation' is that he says, based on his experience, that the 'donators' usually both expect the cleric to undertake the effort *and* give very little money (20pp after crossing several zones and the person expecting *him* to find the body has been a frequent result) compared to the folks who just ask without mentioning money at all... If you send him a *tell* for a rez, the first question will be not 'How much will you pay', as money isn't the issue for either of us (time is), but 'Where is the body?'

And offering 500 plat for a rez is an exhorbitant amount of money - no wonder those clerics jumped! I don't think it proves your theory at all, as it is so far out of line with usual rez compensation that almost anyone (including Faer) would come do it if they weren't tied up. If we got that kind of cash for rezzes on a regular basis, we wouldn't be in perpetual negative cash flow... ;)

Regards,
Nydia

I can't speak for anyone beyond myself, although Nydia as usual is right on target. If I have the time to do it, I'll respond to any rez request I see, donation offered or not.

But for 500pp I'd probably stop to go rez someone even if I was already doing something else, as long as whoever was waiting for me didn't mind. I mean, that's a lot of money for what's being provided.

It's really just luck of the draw as to which clerics are in-zone and which of them have the time or inclination to help.

I just mentioned this to Faervas, and he laughed and said that the reason that he doesn't respond to shouts asking for a rez 'for donation' is that he says, based on his experience, that the 'donators' usually both expect the cleric to undertake the effort *and* give very little money (20pp after crossing several zones and the person expecting *him* to find the body has been a frequent result)

You hit the jackpot with that. As a cleric I have crossed many zones for a "donation" only to be honestly given a peridot .. then asked for a buff~ hahaha.

If I'm going to bum a rez, I'll drag the corpse to them, or at least send tells to clerics in zone offering them some pp or buffs for a rez.

Just because someone didn't drop what they were doing to help you doesn't give you a reason to blimmety.

Ask my enchanter for kei... I'll tell you 100pp or buzz off. Pay it or get it elsewhere.

I must reluctantly agree with my fellow Clerics on this matter. "IF" I am in the same zone "AND" if I am not to busy healing my own group and such I will gladly give a free rez. But.... if I have to travel more than 2 zones out of my way to give a rez I will probably decline unless there is ample compensation ( not just a peridot or 2).
I am not greedy but I would like to be compensated for my time just like everyone else......a druid wont port someone to a random zone just for "fun" and there arent to many Enchanters giving "free" KEI out there and most clerics like to be paid back for there Peridots for Virtue or Temperance.

I would post something, but then I'd probably have to read this stupid post. Put it in NAG and maybe I'll sit down between a study break to tear someone a new one. Thanks.

I used to think somewhat like the poster, why people are greedy or only help when there's something in it for them...

My main on solusek ro was a warrior which I played till I was lvl 52, it was flooded with warriors and the amount I played back then never got me that great gear so It was mainly just pickup groups. After kunark hit it became a huge drag, getting a group and running to sebilis started to get a huge drag so I simply made a cleric for fun and started leveling him up. The ease of getting a group was unbelievable, I spent 5% of the time LFG as I did on my warrior and this only got better the higher level I got all the way to 60 during velious.

With actually enjoying the game the way i wanted(grouping a lot and saving people's asses non stop) It also got really old, really fast getting requests for resses. At first it was a little cute, then meh, then pretty annoying. Not only did people ask you while you were in the middle of doing something, very few actually offered to compensate you for your time. I did a few corpse runs myself for people at random, some actually did pay well, some didn't at all. Some people expected them out of you too much and thats really what desensitizes you to ress requests. The more time went on the less i cared, and honostly right now unless It was someone I knew I wouldn't run 2 minutes to ress someone with my cleric unless I was heading there anyway.

Just try it yourself, make a cleric and see how it goes. Wizards have got to be the same way, i've joked with a friend once like a year and a half ago, "would you run across a zone to port someone for 1k?", he instantly answered an un surprising
"no". Its a combination of just not caring anymore for people that the constant requests do to you and the fact that 99% of the time the friends your with need you a lot more then someone asking for a ress or port.

All the constant ress requests, if you actually answered them all you could spend damn near your whole online time just running around helping strangers. I'm sorry but if you want to help people get your ass down to the homeless shelter and help out, EQ is recreation.

As for someone not ressing a corpse next to them, thats just stupidity unless they have a reason to hate the person :P.

Heh - my brother played a cleric named Balen on Sol Ro and was one of the early ones to hit 50. He got so many "rez me pls" tells that eventually he retired from the game!

and people wonder why i run around anon. I have and will continue to rezz people for free IF im in the zone or IF im in PoT and they are say in PoN....UNLESS i have to sit and wait at the zone in becuase they just died. What i wont do is buff after they are rezzed. 50% of the time i rezz someone they will throw 50-100 plat up and ill just cancel the trade but that basically depends on my mood and how much plat i have left in bank. What i WONT do is sit in PoK or PoT and start shouting or OOCing will rezz for donations...when i see that i have a bad habit of oocing or shouting will rezz for free. There have been time when i out right refuse to rezz the person even thought a certain bard wanted me to drop what i was doing in BoT and find his body and come rezz him

coming from the outside view point on this i agree with the clerics. i dont have to shout for a rez and such when i die because an RL friend plays a cleric so its nbd but i will say some people take things too far with the requests of rezzes, and i do understand why most clerics wont answer the tell or shout in the zone, i have ignored answered a few but thankfully i get busy multiboxing and i just stop reading my chat unless its a tell.

First, plat is plat. Who's gonna turn it down?

Second, offering donations doesn't mean a dang thing.

I was on a wizard alt in PoK. I occasionally hang out and TL people; I do not ask for donations. A guy asked for a port to CS. Then he asked me to help him get across Siren's. My fault, really, I decided to be nice, since I was just yapping with people. I port us to CS, SHOW HIM THE WAY to SG, then evac him across SG.

He then hands me 5pp. Hah. People are funny.

So the thing is, when people offer donations - you just never know. And poor clerics - they have to use some expensive components.

"Worse yet, sometimes folks just shove plat in your trade window as if you were a vending machine and expect services."

Do what I do in this case. Hit accept, walk away or gate.
They sure as hell send you a tell quick after they figure out you didnt cast a damn thing. "Gee did you want something? I thought you were just giving away money."

People cant even ask correctly now-a-days.

well if you look at things, you're busy doing something that you can stop but don't feel like doing so. someone says donation, or some undisclosed amount you're going to assume it's not worth your time and interrupting your recreation. you auc half a k, and that gets alot of folks attention because you just got them 1/8th the way to that solstice earring = p Standarad rez amount if you were to ask me (if you're getting charged) is at least 50pp-100pp.

spare som palt pleeb? kkthx!
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Ask my enchanter for kei... I'll tell you 100pp or buzz off. Pay it or get it elsewhere.

AMEN.

There is most likely someone casting it for donations either in PoK, nexus or PoT. If you send me a tell when I am not advertising it chances are I am not interested in casting it for donations. If you wenth through the trouble to seek me out and ask for it you can pay me more than 16pp 48 silver or whatever is "all you have" or find it somewhere else.

BTW I hate being in PoK and getting 10 tells right when I zone in. "go Roleplay" you say. Ok well then they find me and see that I am wearing a chanter epic. um.. sure then I will just take it off and put on a dagger and tell them I am a wizard.. then with my luck they would ask for a port :rolleyes

BTW this was all pretty much a post all in good fun. But i do agree with dart /gasp!

Ask my enchanter for kei... I'll tell you 100pp or buzz off. Pay it or get it elsewhere.

You should just TELL him to VoQ your alt. Don't give him an option. Then, when he takes more than 5 minutes, yell at Bos for being a lazy fucker. That's what I do.

owners who charge 5 bucks for a watered down pisswater beer.

God forbid I derail this fresh new topic, but I just want to make two things clear, at least at Yankee Stadium:

1) The 20oz Bud/Bud Light "pisswater" is actually $7.25, not $5.

2) You can also get decent beer (12oz) for $8 at the "Beers from around the world" stand on the upper tier, or you can pay $8.50 for a 16oz Becks if you happen to catch the vendor as he walks out of the tunnel into the stands, before he sells out.

As far as the original topic goes, I.....

zzzzzzzzzz.....

If you want clerics to take you seriously and want to help you, dont be a tool.

If you offered 500pp for a rez in PoN i would have sent you a tell saying "I can help ya". When we got to the GY, if your corpse's were there, i'd rez you, hit cancel trade, and wish you luck. If we got to PoN and you had 10 mins left till you GY'd and Hailed your corpse 3 times before the 10 second cast of my epic was completed i would take your plat and never rez you again.

There are alot of idiots in game that will take advantage of people as much as they possibly can. If its someone i don't know, that's how I approach the situation.

I don't donate for service.

I tip for service.

Donations imply some non profit.

Tips imply appreciation for special attention

Join a large guild, or get access to a level 65 of every class toon with every flag and expansion if you don't want to deal with the bullshit. Honestly though if someone told your wife that they are donating for a port to Cobalt Scar while you were in the middle of an xp group then you probably wouldn't want to answer or help them since, and I will use caps IT IS NOT YOUR DUTY OR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO ANYTHING FOR RANDOM PEOPLE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. You as a paying customer have the right to do whatever you want to fit your own needs. If those needs do not coinside with others then it is somewhat tough shit.

Now in the case of rezzes you have three hours to get your shit together before you are screwed, I always rezzed anyone who asked just because I have been that screwed before and can't say no to someone who asks politely or especially a friend or a guildy. I never charge because quite frankly mana is mana and you get it back in no time really. What I never understood is why people rarely pay people for high level tradeskill stuff that people do (which cost ridiculous amounts of plat to raise.. i.e. several hundred thousand plat for GMing all tradeskills) and pay ridiculously for rezzes and KEI. Heres the thing the rez spells 90 percent and 96 percent, I will go out on a limb and say that they don't cost more than 50 pp for both of them. Mana is mana, sit your ass down, you play EQ, you aren't in a big rush to do anything with the ridiculous slow pace of the game.

Part of the problem with EQ is you have to deal with the shithead population that think because they spent 50 bucks of the money they earned by bagging groceries at Albertsons for a week which they in turn bought a KEI scroll for their PL'ed chanter they just got to level 60, that they owe you to pay whatever few thousand plat they spent for it. I spent 60k for Brells Stalwart Shield. I almost never excepted donations, because it's just dumb, the buff will go away is a little over an hour or you'll die or get trained etc... but it is your spell to do what you wish at your disposal which is why YOU spent the platinum on it. Burdening other people to try and pay for the spell you bought is retarded, especially in the case of KEI which is also componentless. If you ask for a buff the LEAST you could do is pay for the component of the spell or give it to some person...

I'll make this short for the retards and sum this up, just some guidelines.

1) YOU are asking for the buff, so be nice.
2) If the person doesn't want to cast it on you, don't bitch at them and spam them, it is their discretion.
3) Say thank you once it has been cast.
4) If it is a buff that requires a component, go buy the component or give at minimum the plat the component costs.
5) Go cry somewhere other than the A Ro boards when some dickhead won't buff you. Two bitches crying like little girls that skinned their knees never did anything but piss people off.

Wow. I was thinking Coors Field here in Colorado. They range from 4.75 for the worst of the worst to around the 8 range for those world beer jobbers.

I donate for KEI in PoK simply because if nobody did, why would anybody sit there for 6 straight hours doing it? They do it because it's profitable. Whens' the last time you sat in PoK for 4 hours /ooc'ing that you were doing Brell's for free?

If I'm in an XP zone and I wander across a group with a chanter, I'll also donate for KEI if I'm in need because I'm taking mana away from his group, not like he needs it though.

The only time I don't donate is when the enchanter is just sitting there. The same rule applies for clerics.

One time I sent Shewdogg a tell and begged him to give me Aegolism and he was like, Dude wtf Im l33t azn Paly. Well I didnt know what that was and he never did give me Aegolism so hes a bitch.

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

Dude pallies get like temperance or some shit in LoY... and I have MGB! I'll be a fucking cash machine for my new owner.

and people wonder why i run around anon. I have and will continue to rezz people for free IF im in the zone or IF im in PoT and they are say in PoN....UNLESS i have to sit and wait at the zone in becuase they just died. What i wont do is buff after they are rezzed. 50% of the time i rezz someone they will throw 50-100 plat up and ill just cancel the trade but that basically depends on my mood and how much plat i have left in bank. What i WONT do is sit in PoK or PoT and start shouting or OOCing will rezz for donations...when i see that i have a bad habit of oocing or shouting will rezz for free. There have been time when i out right refuse to rezz the person even thought a certain bard wanted me to drop what i was doing in BoT and find his body and come rezz him

I completely agree.
I have an epic clerk and an epic chanter and my chanter is anon most of the times.
I have never accepted a donation for a rezz and I doubt that I ever will, no matter where I rezz (have travelled to places like the hole and qeynos. where I'm kos).
However by not accepting any donations I reserve the right to say no to a request.
I will help you but not at every cost, I'm not for sale.
Basically I will rezz you when I can but don't expect me to leave an exp group.
Buffing is a somewhat different story, I will buff you at cost, meaning if it costs me a dot, it costs you a dot, nothing more.
But don't expect me to come running for pp, cause I won't and the more you offer the less likely it is I will come.

About the 500 pp well I think that's been explained, it is so far more then the usual donation that its almost irresistible to most clerk's, so you're experiment proves nothing more then that most clerk's can be bought if the price is high enough.
But what's new?

Remember back when luclin first came out and there were like two enchanters charging 100+ for kei.... those were the real whores.

These in PoK asking for plat to cast virtue, shaman, enchanter buffs. Eh let em, they doing you a service. If you offer nothing you just might get nothing some people like doing charity work on here cause it makes em happy :D

Then there are those that are looking at the next item they need and if you offer 500pp for some rediclusly easy to do thing, well of course you'll get folks all over it.

I havnt played EQ in like 10 months so I have no fucking clue what youre talking about. We should play WC3 sometime, although I still cant host. Or America's Army, Im really getting into that game.

Master Damoiel Mindbend
Retired Enchanter of the 60th Season

Got Diablo 2 LOD? I really don't wanna install WC3 again hehe, especially after me you darus and malli got owned by the asians. Ouch clan 4 life though!

id own you in d2 anyday shew, my barb would rock you

81 Bowazon, like level 18 guided arrow + buriza = dead Miraj.

BHAHAHA

you are nuts

my barb has over 15k life, 125% dmg reduction, and does 15k dmg in 1 hit...

bring it.

Countlevula

81 bowazon, rofl...i kill 99s easily

/w *countlevula

One thing i love is i see cleric /oocing or shouting Virtue 25pp behind bank...i have been known to shout casting MGB Hand of Virtue for free at bank in 2 mins...tends to piss people off but man did they come running

A humerous story for you:

One day I saw a friend shout he was looking for kei. I shouted for him to come to the nexus stone.

All of the sudden, Ttrent sends me a tell saying this is his zone and GM rules dictate only 1 person can kei at a time, and that I have to leave!!!11!

So I offered to kei for free for about 30 minutes, then when he shouted that he was doing if for free, I started paying people 5pp each to kei them.

I can be such an asshole sometimes :(

just let me say that I do not feel that just because someone can perform a certain service like porting or buffing, that they are entitled to do so upon request.

So people like shaman/clerics who buff or druids/wizards who port shouldn't have to..

my wife a druid and myself a shammy

OMG he's a shaman and his wife is a druid,.. the 2 things he mentioned that he doesn't feel people should be obligated to do.. sounds to me like you one greedy sob who got upset that he had to donate the 500pp that he offered in pok and wanted to vent here.. I BET YOU if you were in pok and I sent you a tell saying come to pon gy and buff me for a donation you wouldn't even respond!

AND now you have to go through life knowing that no one other than Shewdogg!!! made more sense than you.. this is a server first..

Harbinzhurus long since abandonned his account had had the toon migrated to the Palimax account.

If it was still on the Harbinzhurus account, I'd set up BBB and leave him standing in the Nexus KEI'ing anyone who said "please." 24-7

Hell, I'd do it on the Palimax account if I didn't suspect someone would get all butt-hurt and try to get him banned.

CREED SUCK!!!!!







shew sucks too hehehe i am cool i sold my account just like everyone else LOELZ LOLZ LOLZ LOLZ hehehehe lolz lolz


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can we just ban zenrk?

come on, please =/

geez ban him for that dumb shit

just let me say that I do not feel that just because someone can perform a certain service like porting or buffing, that they are entitled to do so upon request.

ObFunny: I think you mean "obligated" not "entitled".

It really really changes the meaning of your post. =P~

Harbinzhurus long since abandonned his account had had the toon migrated to the Palimax account.

If it was still on the Harbinzhurus account, I'd set up BBB and leave him standing in the Nexus KEI'ing anyone who said "please." 24-7

Hell, I'd do it on the Palimax account if I didn't suspect someone would get all butt-hurt and try to get him banned.

I'm sorta sad that botting had to be banned. Utility stuff like this would be quite useful.

Of course, the next step is cheal chain bots. With a bit of work, you could probably get them down to the point of outperforming what any human could do.