View Full Version : Harry Potter Book 6
Greystone Thorngage
07-27-2005, 10:38 AM
Anyone else reading or done reading this?
mirdorr
07-27-2005, 11:27 AM
I hear Hermione dies.
Revellie
07-27-2005, 12:04 PM
Already read it. it was good but I didnt care for who died.
Fandros
07-27-2005, 12:35 PM
Already read it, and imho...
He's not deaded....read carefully his funeral and look for something subtle....
Fandros
fildien
07-27-2005, 01:14 PM
Who dies? Hermione? Who is that? lol
I only watch the movies and not read the books.
Sanchek
07-27-2005, 01:44 PM
Obviously, it wasn't Hermione. Having the emerging hot chick be in all of the movies would trump artistic integrity even if Rowling wanted to kill her off anyway.
Greystone Thorngage
07-27-2005, 02:20 PM
fandros talking about that flash?
Gwendylin Soulember
07-27-2005, 02:45 PM
I've read it. Good book imo. Im already ready for the 7th book to be out now. lol
Cant wait to see what the Goblet of Fire movie when it comes out.
Fandros
07-27-2005, 03:12 PM
The phoenix is a clue I think....infact I think Snape appearing to kill said character is a plant to get to He Who Must Not Be Named!!! err Voldemort...
Fandros
Greystone Thorngage
07-27-2005, 03:33 PM
I changed the topic so people who arent done don't get mad.
My only reason for doubting you Fandros, is that Dumbledores picture was now in the headmaster office. Now that could be smopke and mirrors to allow Dumbledore to move unrestricted.
Also, I don't think Snape is a bad guy. I think the infamous "Severus...please" line meant please kill me not please help me. Snape killing him makes too much sense. It gets Draco off the hook, its gets Snape off the Unbreakable Vow. Which is another reason I think he is really dead. He taught Harry everything he needed to know to beat Voldemort.
MY friend brought up an interesting idea. What if Harry was a horcrux? IT makes too much sense. Voldemort knew he had a "mortal enemy" so why not infuse part of his soul into that to ensure his life. It would explain why Harry can get inside Voldemorts head, (notice they have always said that a part of Voldemort must of got transfered.), it explains why Harry is a parseltongue, also it makes for a climatic ending where Harry in the end has to sacrifice himself to finally finish off Voldemort, thus making a good excuse to stop the books at 7 like the author said she wanted.
Fandros
07-27-2005, 04:04 PM
Hmmm good point in regards to him being the potential 7th piece.
Since reading the book I've wondered if Dumbledore himself might have a horocrux himself inside his phoenix...
But that would require a heinous crime wouldn't it?
Fandros
Greystone Thorngage
07-27-2005, 04:15 PM
That would require murder Dumbledore said. Because murder rips your soul apart, blah blah. I need to re-read what Dumbledore was muttering while drinking the potion in the cave, he may of babbled something that may support your theory FAndros, though I don't see that being the case, based on the Character.
Maniacles
07-30-2005, 07:00 AM
In other news, A Feast for Crows is now on sale in U.K. Won't hit the states till November 8 though :(.
I'll watch Harry Potter movies. I don't think I could stomach READING Harry Potter after a song of fire and ice. Stunt killing a big character in book six? Just ONE mystery unsolved between books? Got NOTHIN' on Martin. NOTHING!!!! Nobody does shock like Martin. You spend most of his books thinking "Holy shit, I can't believe he just did that in his story".
I just re-read A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, and A Storm of Swords. It's amazing what you catch the third time around. George R.R. Martin is hard core fantasy at it's best.
Kelraz Bladesinger
08-02-2005, 01:25 AM
Fuck Greystone, that makes so much sense I'm actually afraid that was dead on. Harry a Horecrux ...
I still like the "Die Ron, Die" theory I've read though about the 7th book. In the first there was a chess match and Harry was the bishop, Heromine the rook, and Ron said "and I'll be the knight". Heromine is the straight and narrow while Harry has no problems skirting diagonally to get the job done. Then of course as the chess match unfolds eventually Harry's team lost a knight (Sirrus) to the opposition's queen (Belax Lestrange) where Dumbledore and Voldemort are both the kings. Anywho, towards the end Ron sacrificed himself, the knight, in order for Harry, the bishop, to take the king.
Not to mention a lot of Ron's jokes always came true. And when he finally said "I don't care if my tea leaves spell out 'die ron, die' I'll throw them away" or something like that.
I probably didn't summarize well but here's the link: http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/thenorthtower/nt22.shtml
Lastly, I gotta say way to go Harry for finally landing a red-head. Everyone knows they are the best lovers, right?
Fandros
08-02-2005, 08:20 AM
Lemme guess Kel, your gal a Coppertop? heh
I have an exwife that was, so-so if you ask me.
Fandros
Stormangel
08-02-2005, 11:02 AM
Greystone Thorngage:
My only reason for doubting you Fandros, is that Dumbledores picture was now in the headmaster office. Now that could be smopke and mirrors to allow Dumbledore to move unrestricted.
Also, I don't think Snape is a bad guy. I think the infamous "Severus...please" line meant please kill me not please help me. Snape killing him makes too much sense. It gets Draco off the hook, its gets Snape off the Unbreakable Vow. Which is another reason I think he is really dead. He taught Harry everything he needed to know to beat Voldemort.
MY friend brought up an interesting idea. What if Harry was a horcrux? IT makes too much sense. Voldemort knew he had a "mortal enemy" so why not infuse part of his soul into that to ensure his life. It would explain why Harry can get inside Voldemorts head, (notice they have always said that a part of Voldemort must of got transfered.), it explains why Harry is a parseltongue, also it makes for a climatic ending where Harry in the end has to sacrifice himself to finally finish off Voldemort, thus making a good excuse to stop the books at 7 like the author said she wanted.
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I was having a similar conversation after reading the book and the "What if herry was a horcrux" was brough up as well. One reason for this is that the Death eaters used harry to bring back Voldemort in GoF.
This may also play into the proficy that "One can not live while the other is alive" (I think that was the quote)
I am very intrested to see how this gets played out. ^_^
Talid
08-02-2005, 04:44 PM
How can you care that much about a children's book? Grow up.
Fandros
08-02-2005, 05:04 PM
Talid, have you read it? It's hardly childrens fare anymore.
Plus, anything I'm going to have my son reading infact pushing him to read I'll damn sure preread.
It's a parenting thing...
You don't like this thread? Don't click on it you blasted cancer.
Fandros
Talid
08-02-2005, 05:22 PM
Talid, have you read it? It's hardly childrens fare anymore.
Plus, anything I'm going to have my son reading infact pushing him to read I'll damn sure preread.
It's a parenting thing...
You don't like this thread? Don't click on it you blasted cancer.
Fandros
hahaha. You just love to push the maturity button, but you're the one trying to rationalize the death of a character IN A BOOK WRITTEN FOR CHILDREN.
Harry Potter is a children's book. You are reading a children's book. Grow up, Fandros.
Greystone Thorngage
08-02-2005, 06:01 PM
Have you read the books? I wouldn't consider them a childrens book. For the record he isnt the only one rationalizing, so stop hijacking a harmless thread.
Fandros
08-02-2005, 06:14 PM
Poor Talid, unable to read because Mom shut off the power to his basement.
Simple answer, don't click on the link and judge folks when you yourself are so lacking...
Fandros
Laeyakk
08-19-2005, 02:25 PM
Snape loves Lily. Snape hates James because James got Lily. Snape hates Potter because Potter looks just like James, but with Lily's eyes -- every time Snape looks at Potter, his soul is scratched. But above all, Snape will bring down Voldemort, who killed the love of his life.
And yes, Harry is Voldemort's holowhatzit. And Dumbledoor is dead. "There are worse things than death". DD knew Snape had to kill him in order to stay alive, and Snape as a double agent is far more valuable in defeating Voldemort than Dumbledoor.
Voldemort will lose because he doesn't understand the power of love.
Greystone Thorngage
08-21-2005, 09:33 AM
interesting point LAe
stauquin
08-22-2005, 10:10 AM
Just finished it last night. It was a fantastic read. I'm ready for the 7th!!
The one thing that I was thinking of when reading it - that Harry just might be a Horcrux. What made me think that, since Voldemort had to commit murder to split his soul, he had already killed Lily, then tried to kill Harry, leaving the scar.
I also had a hard time believing Snape killed DD maliciously. Someone had brought up earlier that he had to out of necessity when DD said, "Severus...please." I like that theory you came up with.
On to mushiness - Part of me wishes he didn't tell Ginny they couldn't see each other anymore. Even though I understood Harry's rationale. They were a very cute couple in the book.
I noticed in this one there was a lot more "snogging."
fildien
08-22-2005, 10:41 AM
I saw this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092115/) over the weekend and did a double take when I heard the names of the characters. Wonder where Rowling got her character names?
I haven't read any of the Potter books b/c I guess part of me felt they were kid books and therefore wouldn't spark my mind. But after reading the replies here I can see that they might be worth a glance or two.
Cloudwalker21
08-22-2005, 01:13 PM
I would consider the first two books "younger age" reads, but past that they're more serious. Five was about where it entered the realm of a more adult book, with the deaths of some of the established characters.
Moglor
08-22-2005, 02:35 PM
1. I believe she never said the books were gonna stop at book 7.
2. Dumbledore is dead but Harry will later on try to think that maybe dumbledore is alive somehwere.
3.Dumbledore was pleading with Snape to finish the job to not give up his cover on the inside..even if the order of the pheonix is out for his head .. this gives snape the upperhand on voldermorts Trust.
4. Draco Malfoy is bound to turn good. Look at the kid he has a hard outside but when push comes to shove he fears.
5. I am sick of heroes saying they cant LOVE who they desire because there enemy might use them against them.. IE spiderman.. that is just bullshit.. Dumbledore said that the one advantage Harry has over Vold is that he can love.. now the fact he fears loving err sorry liking Jinny doesnt that give Vold the upperhand if he has Harry swamped ni his own fears?
6. Jinny is gonna be stubborn and they'll be together in do time.
Greystone Thorngage
08-22-2005, 07:57 PM
1. agree, i think harry will die saving the world type thing
2. He is alive, inside the painting
3. agree totally
4. Think in the end he will help
5. interesting point
6. So is Ron and Hermione
Kelraz Bladesinger
08-22-2005, 08:46 PM
I totally forgot about how the headmasters live on in their paintings!
Moglor
08-22-2005, 10:33 PM
Only question I have about the next book is that.. is Harry gonna try to sneak away when ron and hermione arent looking to do this on his own or is he going to let them actually help.
Kelraz Bladesinger
08-22-2005, 10:38 PM
I still like the "Die Ron, Die" theory, and in that mindset I imagine Ron and Heromine will be active participants just like they were the past 6 books.
Moglor
08-22-2005, 10:57 PM
ok so what part is neville gonna play?
Greystone Thorngage
08-23-2005, 12:10 AM
something huge, not sure what because he is important because he could of easily been the "harry potter" if volde would of chose him. Im thinking his unusual knack for botany is going to finally be useful.
Moglor
08-23-2005, 12:38 AM
I really hope Snape is actually good cause he is my favorite character that could bethough just cause I really like Alan Rckman
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