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Malse
07-11-2009, 04:22 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/11/us/11nsa.html?_r=1&ref=us


The report found that the secrecy surrounding the program may have limited its effectiveness. At the C.I.A., it said, so few working-level officers were allowed to know about the program that the agency often did not make full use of the leads the wiretapping generated, and intelligence leads that came from the wiretapping operation were often “vague or without context,” the report said.

Illegal? Check. Ineffective? Check. Hampered by its own attempted concealment due to prior? Check. Huge waste of taxpayer money? Check. Deliberate violation of Constitution? Check.

How many times do we have to go through this before someone, anyone pick up on policing techniques that both work and are legal having proven far more effective and calls criminals like Cheney out on it? Meanwhile the NSA is a building two more major listening posts to canvas the entire world for terrorists after having watched the Bourne Supremacy one too many times.

Rover
07-11-2009, 06:25 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/11/us/11nsa.html?_r=1&ref=us



How many times do we have to go through this before someone, anyone pick up on policing techniques that both work and are legal having proven far more effective and calls criminals like Cheney out on it?

When we stop playing to the Sarah Palins of America and go with the educated sensible and proven approach.

Binuven
07-11-2009, 06:36 PM
But she looks great in a Bikini! That should count for something, right? :p

Bylimet Spiritwalker
07-11-2009, 07:19 PM
OMG, I love that new sig!!!!!

I have argued many times with friends, including some law enforcement folks, that a .357 revolver is a better weapon for close quarters combat than a 9mm automatic for exactly the reason displayed in your sig. When you have several folks in a tight space (like an apartment hallway or an alley) all that hot flying brass can be an impediment to a successful outcome.

Rover
07-11-2009, 09:47 PM
OMG, I love that new sig!!!!!

I have argued many times with friends, including some law enforcement folks, that a .357 revolver is a better weapon for close quarters combat than a 9mm automatic for exactly the reason displayed in your sig. When you have several folks in a tight space (like an apartment hallway or an alley) all that hot flying brass can be an impediment to a successful outcome.

I once saw a guy get hot brass caught in between his glasses and his face...nice burn. It also sucks when a Cobra is pumping out 20mm above you and that shit rains down with the subtlety of falling bricks.