Greetings!

Are you looking to play with like-minded people in EQ2? Willing to share, love and be loved? Ready to support your brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ?
Look no further!

Heroes of Grace is a Christian based Gaming Group that first started in City of Heroes and now has branched in to other games. You can find us at http://www.heroesofgrace.com/ (http://www.dnd.com) and definitely visit our EZboard Message Board where we keep in touch and lift each other up. We even have a debate board for those who disagree with the Bible and the Way, Truth and Life.

Let's take this to the next level of gaming--we're going to be together eternally, so why not start enjoying each other's company now?

God bless you!
Yes, YOU! (Taken from Mrs. Moo)

Disclaimer: This is a guild of like-minded people. We are not out to proselytize, we just merely want to share a common interest with people who believe that Jesus is Lord and love online gaming.

EDIT: This topic has been split and its link restored. Warnings may be forthcoming for inappropriate comments along the lines of religion bashing.

Were you aware that on the little known 8th day, God created hatred?

Hatred is what causes people like you to join one another in an online game. Hatred for your appearance, your children, your parents and perhaps your sexual preference.

And how dare you bless me. I didn't ask for that. You take that back right now. I am not going to put up with people like you blessing me randomly. That is disgusting.

Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Who the hell is is Mrs. Moo though? Thats just downright freaky.

Eh?:confused:

Wait, if I created a guild called ''Thilly Rainbow Guyths'' (comprised mostly of Vhex, Gokuu, Roliel, Maylen and Samanusuke) would you be forced to guildwar us at all times? Since Jesus hates gays and all..

Jesus loves you. :)
But he hates the shit out of EQ2.

I thought DnD or anything related to it was a sin, like homesexuality.

Jesus loves you. :)
But he hates the shit out of EQ2.
That was fucking funny...

Out of curiosity, how can true Christians play a game like EQ? I mean, EQ is fantasy based on Gods and Godesses, but as a Christian, are you even allowed to acknowledge the existance of such beings?

I asked this question of a former manager who is a Promise Keeper and he said that he'd never play a game like EQ, nor allow his son to because of the religious implications that such an endeavor would create for him.

It all depends on how you look at it...

As a Christian, if I played EQ and actually decided to get on a mat daily (in RL) and sincerely 'prayed' to Tunare, then yes I suppose that could be considered worshipping a false god per say. However, if you treat it as a game at least in that respect, then that is all it is. Just a harmless game/hobby played casually or hardcore.

Thread derailing is cool. :cool:

Talid, Bless you. I will include you and your brother Nark in my prayers nightly now.

This topic might last a day in General Discussion, or maybe the lifespan of a fruitfly. Whatever is shorter.

Well, you can be sure not many will be around on Sundays..or Christmas or Easter or Lent.

Frankly, this kinda guild is bullshit. Whats next? A guild that is all Republicans? All Muslim? Will the Muslim guild members commit acts of terrorism against the Christian guild, such as suicide bombing camps in dungeons and beheadings of quest mobs? Its just a bad precedent to set, so please, don't go there.

Point: Leave the stuff that makes Real Life suck shit out of the virtual online fantasy world. If you want to talk about God, make a bible study class in a chatroom but otherwise maybe try to promote a little bit of tolerance and diversity for once.

I don't see what the big deal is. Everquest is referred to as a chat room with dragons all the time - if a group of like minded people want to get together and form a guild, how does that hurt anyone?

Those of you quick to complain about dragging real life into EQ - are you trying to tell me you've never done the same? Heck, most of the people I chat with have interests similar to mine, and my guild follows a certain standard of behavior I agree with. Why shouldn't this group be allowed to have a guild?

Maybe if there was fear of them somehow forcing your EQ toon to hear about religion...but I don't see that anywhere in this post or their website.

I realize that it is fashionable among the, "intellectually elite" to badmouth Christianity these days, but I don't see anything wrong with the posters request. Not like it hurts you to let his guild exist.

Are they going to petition me if I say "god dammit" ?

I don't have a problem with religious people, as long as what they believe doesn't interfere with what I believe (there is no god). If I were to get into a heated battle with them and they mention god to me, saying that god wouldn't want me to take their mob from them, do I have grounds to petition because they're pushing their beliefs that a god exists onto me?

PS:

Saman: FU :( I'm not gay, Immort told me it was a chick :(

A guild that is all Republicans?

EWWW!!!! I'd come back for that!:D

i got to agree don't know why people are making big deal about it. They arent forcing anyone to join or telling people they are wrong for their beliefs.

There was a similar guild in SW:G, I could have sworn that I was reading the same exact recruiting post which I saw when SW:G beta was going on.

You guys are related? Other than the religion part.

You know, as long as they don't go around and cause trouble and try to push their faith on other people, I wouldn't care. Let them start a guild. Who cares? They aren't making money for it, I doubt they'll get new followers. I'm sure if they were gonna petition about stuff, they'd do it out of the guild as well.

I'm not Christian, but fuck it -- Let 'em have fun.

Is Ned Flanders the guildleader?

Sweet merciful crap, were some of the people in this thread raped by their priest or something?

There was no reason to flame this person whatsoever. They weren't preaching or anything. What in the hell is so wrong with like-minded people wanting to be guilded together?

People that instantly hate anything related to religion or christianity are just as bad, if not worse, then the very religious fanatics they hate so much.(hi talid)

Considering that religion is a very inflammatory and politically charged topic ANYWHERE this day and age, its amazing as to why this was allowed to stay here so long and not moved off to NAG or RL issues. This seems to blur the line between all three topics.

As for the uproar? Organized religion fuels hatred. Just turn on the TV news. Go look at other threads. Go Googling under the topic "Crusades", "Middle East", "Jews" or "Israel". Heck, if anything has disappointed me about religion lately is how often politicians seem to be using it as a rallying point for war (Go Googling under the topic of Osama Bin Ladin and George W. Bush, Planet Earth's most effective contemporary Holy Warriors). Perhaps religion not getting a fair shake anymore, but even so, it has no place here in this day and age and guilds that encourage one socio-political demographic also have no place if one seeks to keep the playing field (Everquest) level for everyone.

You do have a few interesting points there... but how does a christian guild uneven the playing field?

I mean, (insert hated guild of your choice here) is a guild full of assclowns, so why not have one full of christians?

Organized religion fuels hatred.Exactly what do you mean by organized religion as it pertains to the original post? I did not see where the poster made any reference to a specific organization or other religious affiliation other than being a "Christian". Or are you just lumping all "Christians" together as organized?

Perhaps religion not getting a fair shake anymore, but even so, it has no place here in this day and age Why does religion, ANY religion, not have a place in the world? Is this because you do not have religious beliefs? Or perhaps you know that there is "something" out there and you don't want to claim to be an atheist? Religion serves many purposes. True, there are those who have given it a bad name in a lot of ways, but this is true of almost every profession you could name. Religion or religious organizations are responsible for many charitable and social contributions that the federal government, state and local governments can't or won't handle. Have you checked out your local area on days other than Christmas/Thanksgiving to see how many homeless folks are being fed and who is feeding them? It's not your government. If those "religious" folks want to throw their money away and help people, why should it matter to you?

encourage one socio-political demographic Okay, are you going to break the news to Sony that they should shut down all their European servers? Seem like a socio-political demographic was used there.

keep the playing field (Everquest) level for everyone. You gotta explain this one.... how does a guild based upon religion, geographical location, political affiliation, etc cause an unbalanced playing field? Are you afraid that all the Republican, conservative, Christian guilds out there are going to keep you from farming ORC1 in the Commonlands? Seems to me that grouping has been part of the vision of EverQuest from the first days. So.... why should people who have something in common NOT group together or form a guild?

It's just a game....