God, tonight's episode was SO good. I missed the first 4 episodes, went and watched em online and now I'm hooked. It just gets better every episode. Anyone else watching this I can talk to about it?!

Watching as we speak.....big twist just happened with Clair meeting her "real" father by the fireplace...ugh

wow, just wow......episode over and ...wow

Is this show still really good? I stopped watching after that big break around the holidays and never caught back up.

Every episode its really a little bit better than the episode before. I'm pretty captivated. Anyone I know that I've told to watch it hasn't stopped watching it.

I just hope they kinda wrap things up at the end. Lost was great, but every episode left you with more questions than it answered and got very frustrating for me.

missed it last night..watching it online atm.. holly snap is all I can say **the fire place** I can say I didnt see that coming

BEST EPISODE YET! i wish they would of shown more of the "showdown" at the end.

Well it makes sense. Save the cheerleader, save the world. Sylar gets the power to regenerate and becomes invincible. There's no way a flying guy could compete against him. Only Peter with his ability to siphon other people's powers stands a chance. Though, did you notice Peter never siphoned Hiro's powers?

Well it makes sense. Save the cheerleader, save the world. Sylar gets the power to regenerate and becomes invincible. There's no way a flying guy could compete against him. Only Peter with his ability to siphon other people's powers stands a chance. Though, did you notice Peter never siphoned Hiro's powers?
yes he did remeber that part where he came into that holding room in Texas

Yeah Kelraz, he stopped the room in texas then ported them out.

Now my problem, is Lienderman has puppeted the events of the future. Did you catch they talked about the Lienderman Act on the news report? If he knows whats going to happen why is he perpetuating it to this extent?

Ok its so far proven everyone's parents so far have powers..Claire, Nathan/Peter, so theoretically, Hiro's sister and father coujld/do have pwoers. How will that come to play.

I gotta watch the whole damn series over again in order. I'm gonna try to find some torrents to download em all.

Did they ever mention what Peter's mom's power was.., and what ever did happen to Clair's real mother.. its like they dropped her ever since that one showing of her

I gotta watch the whole damn series over again in order. I'm gonna try to find some torrents to download em all.
I looked around and didnt find any good ones.. but if you wan tto waych them all from start to the current ones you can go here http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/
its all free and will save harddrive space :D

Ah, but that has commercials. I just found em :)
Claire's real mom is probably like the other hundreds with powers still in hiding and not very important to the story. As for Peter's mom, to my knowledge we don't know what her power is yet.

So here's a question for you. Who is bad? We know Sylar is bad, we know Hiro and Peter are good. Everyone else is so grey. Even Linderman seems to have good intentions at times, but he totally fucked up Nikki and DL and he put a hit on Nathan. The company are probably the most confusing of them all.

Im glad you guys love that show too... Watching Peter kick ass like he did last night was incredible!!!

Ms. Petrelli said she can heal people its just slower than what claire can do. She said it in the episode where Claire goes to Nathans Mansion a couple weeks ago.

Claires mom went back to Mexico after she got the money from Nathan to stay quiet. She has fire generation powers for those who missed the one episode.

DL is in the end a good guy, who was framed. The hit on Nathan was jsut to get him to come to Vegas and talk. Linderman has a very very envolved plan he is working on, but to what ultimate end???

hehe keep the questions coming!!! i love the show.

also from what I saw I think was killed by Sylar.. and also that girl *forgot her name* that can shapeshift that works for *the company*.. which kind of sucks if you ask me.. she was kind of HOT :D

www.spoilerfix.com good spoiler site that doesnt ruin episodes but gives you inside info. Re4ad up on heroes...

She was killed in the future, at least.

Last night was not one of my favorites. I HATE 'dream' episodes of TV shows, where you get some character story, but no real development or struggle for the characters. We saw what 'might' happen, but the actual plot didn't exactly move forward. Granted, better than most dream-episodes, but still, ugh.

I love this show, and I hate being in Europe, I have to wait until tonight to watch yesterday episode!!

Anyway on the question's side, I really wonder how they're gonna stop Sylar. Almost every episode he gains a new power, getting close to invicibility everytime! He really scares me to be honest, even if I know (or suspect...) it will end good, I can't help feeling "goddamn he got a new power again!!".

One of my favorite "bad guy". :)

I have no idea how they are going to unfold this :)

In Hungary they are only after episode 10 now, but downloading helps :)

Lani

Kanyli, I dunno about that. Because future Hiro is just as important a character as past Hiro. If he didn't experience what he experienced and done what he did (go back in time to tell Peter to save Claire) then thats what would have happened.

We saw what 'might' happen, but the actual plot didn't exactly move forward.

we learned that Hiro now has to kill Sylar, and should have the ability.

But, in the future Claire was still alive. I.E. Sylar never did kill her. He survived through Hiro's attacks w/o the regeneration ability.

Hiro said he stabbed Sylar and he healed from it, which is why he wanted the cheerleader saved. Without the regenerative ability the stab will be fatal.

"But, in the future Claire was still alive. I.E. Sylar never did kill her."

He didn't have her regenerative ability. He killed her much much later, in the episode we just saw.

Well, I just caught up on the last 10 episodes.

Did I miss it, or did they totally leave Linderman out of the future events?

they only mention the Linderman act.

It seems weird he'd allow all of that to come to pass, since it's the exact opposite of what he was going for. And, I don't really buy that Sylar could neutralize a guy that could orchestrate everything we've seen in the first 19 episodes.

But see, the whole thing doesn't work.

Timeline 1 - Syler kills Claire, the heroes don't stop the bomb, and we see the dark future. Future Hiro warns past Hiro which leads to...

Presumable #2 - Claire is saved, Hiro kills Syler, the bomb...still went off, and future Hiro didn't know Claire survived. So big paradox, or something intentionally left out? Did Hiro and Ando actually learn anything that would help them?

Besides that, we would (I assume) eventually learn that Hiro kills Syler anyhow.

I think I was just cranky when I saw the show. I miss my BSG fix. I did still enjoy the episode, I just think episodes like that one are a bit of a cop out on the part of the writers who aren't quite willing to advance a main plot (or in the case of sitcoms, commit to major events).

Or, maybe it's that Hiro hasn't tired killing Sylar yet, sans regen.

Yup, novice Hiro hasn't attempted to kill sylar yet minus the healing powers at that point. If you notice claire was alive, because by that point in novice Hiro's time she had been saved. The future is changed in steps, so within the next couple of episodes I think we'll see novice hiro get a shot at sylar.

Thinking too simplistic actually here.

Cheerleader's power was saved from Sylar the first go round, but an overly simplistic thinking Heiro and co thought that was it.

Sylar goes on compling his powers and at some point reaps the illusionistic gal from the 'Company'.

He hides and garners power and at some point reaps Nathan and likely Linderman as well in some unrevealed meeting.

Flash to current episode where Heiro meets future Heiro and learns he needs to knock off Sylar in the past errrr past Heiro's present.

That's where we find Heiro, realizing he's got to carve Sylar to bits to end this particular arc.

Time travel storylines have always been a favorite of mine heh

Fandros

I think at some point Sylar may of killed Linderman.. which may explain why and how he regenarated when future Hiro stabbed him.. and also later when seen that he got Claire in the office.. it doesnt show it.. but from past shows I am to believe that he killed her, which lead up to the showdown between him and Peter in that hallway

Linderman could heal other folks/plants, not himself.

Heiro hasn't yet stabbed Sylar...

There are 3 actual loops going on and Timber you're not seeing it ;P

In the main timeline Sylar never got near Linderman until the first Time intervention from future Heiro.

Even then we didn't see that meeting between Sylar and Linderman.

Did Isaac say that he gave people the knowledge of how to kill Sylar and he saw Sylar's death - right before dying himself? They never followed up on that to my knowledge.

the comic book he sent earlier in the episode. Showed Mohinder killing the Haitan in the future and then the next panel was Hiro putting the sword through Syler.

Basically via comic book he prodicts that save the cheerleader save the world, works.

What I don't get, Peter has been in proximity of the mind reader and the Haitian. Why not utilize those powers? Surely he could have seen that Sylar was pretending to be his brother that way, and then turned off his powers for ripe killing. Granted this may not have been possible in the current timeline, but in the future timeline.

I can't remember if so far if peter has been in the same proximity as the Haitian.

Peter has not been near the Haitian. Also, unlike Parkman who couldnt control it at first, Peter has to proactively use his absorbed powers. Why would he ever scan his brothers brain, probably would never think to do so.

The haitian being able to turn off powers, means he has two powers. Erasing memories and power negation. Which makes me wonder because except for Sylar and Peter whose pwoers innately give them more, no other metahuman has more than 1 power.

Maybe remove the memory of having a power, or even how to use it?

Well... remember, to wipe someones memory the haitian has to put his hands on the persons head and then do his thing... Im not sure if Sylar would have let Peter get within 5 feet of him, let alone touch him.

The haitian being able to turn off powers, means he has two powers. Erasing memories and power negation. Which makes me wonder because except for Sylar and Peter whose pwoers innately give them more, no other metahuman has more than 1 power.
I think whatever powers the Haitian has are probably explained by one underlying power. Something to do with zapping peoples' brains. Turn off the part that has powers or turn off the parts with memories. Mrs. Bennett's reaction to multiple memory wipes suggests to me that he's probably destroying the parts of the brain with the memories each time, and she's running outta noodle.

The ones with multiple powers are apparently rare and significant. I don't think he'd just be a mute sidekick if he had that capability.

what about on the tease for next week about the girl that is the key to stoping sylar.

Considering the things his "brother" has done/will do, I don't see why peter wouldn't. Its just me I guess.

Ok watched it, it was a great episode! :D

Now how I see/understand it :

- 1st timeline, Sylar "wins". He absorbed Claire's power, and at least Nathan's, Linderman's and the shapeshifter, takes Nathan's place as President, and claims "Sylar" was the bomb. Future Hiro decides to go back in time to kill Sylar, but it doesn't work (read change future) because Sylar can regenerate. Hiro searches where to "hit" to change events, and finds that if heroes "save the cheerleader, [they] save the world". He goes back in time to warn Peter (who is definitely the most powerful "good" heroe).

- 2nd timeline (the current one), Peter saves Claire. Fast forward, Linderman shows Nathan he'll become USA President, and that's why he thinks the bomb is good for humanity. Fast forward (at little) again, Isaac draws how to kill Sylar (Hiro stabbing him regenless) AND current Hiro going to future to know it from future Hiro (Mohinder saving him). As well future Hiro giving a separate strip to Ando before dieing, I guess it will be important, or maybe it's just showing Ando dieing.
Isaac is reaped by Sylar, and Sylar draws his own future, him being in the ovale desk. He then, as first timeline, manages to reap shapeshifter, Nathan and Linderman, takes Nathan's place, and declares "Sylar" is the cause of the bomb.
Fast forward (5 years), current Hiro and Ando arrive in future. All the episode occurs, with everyone focusing on "Sylar is the bomb, we have to stop him". Current Hiro learns what to do, and goes back current time.

- 3rd timeline (episodes to come), Claire is saved, and Hiro will have to kill Sylar before he reaps Nathan and co.

BUT! We know that Sylar isn't the bomb (it's Peter), he used this excuse to fear people and reveal the fact that mutants exist. First to do his powers' market, then to be the only one. And I guess it's how he "destroyed" Linderman's plan, who only wants to strengthen humanity over fear, but not "fear of the mutants" one.

So now we have to see Hiro getting ride of Sylar, and Peter getting ride of the bomb effect. Maybe something happened when he got the power that made it uncontrolable? (his mother dieing?)

So, do I make sense? :p

yes

It all makes sense, except for the fact that Claire survived and thus Sylar never had the regeneration powers from her. He got them elsewhere, so saving her was futile.

Hiro hasn't tried to kill regenless Sylar yet though, so the timeline hasn't changed. You could argue that it should automatically have happened already since Claire lived, but they're probably trying to draw it out so that we see the cause and effect clearly.

Sylar had no regenerative powers till he reaped Claire by the fireplace...

Ya'll are getting confused by the temporal tap dancing heh

Fandros

Sylar had no regenerative powers till he reaped Claire by the fireplace...

Ya'll are getting confused by the temporal tap dancing heh

Fandros
He had them when future Hiro got to the point of current Hiro timeline where he cuts Sylar in the neck with the sword. He says that in the future, in the last episode. Hence, he came back to warn Peter to save the cheerleader because Sylar got Claire in Texas at the school, if no one intervened.

This makes me miss the X men time play

Hiro said in the very first episode all he learned about time travel he learned from X-Men and Kitty Pride :)

I am not sure....

Sylar was shot in episode 3 (or 4?) by the cop - at least 4-5 bullets in his corpse. He fell on the ground, so he didnt stop the bullets with Telekinesis - the bullets that came as a surprise did hit him - yet he escaped.

I am pretty sure he already has regenerative powers

Also note that the doctor in HQ has declared him dead, then he did stand up - killed Doctor, and left. After being declared as dead. Something is already regenerating him.

Lani

p.s. my guess is that he can not regenerate - however he can revive from death.

good points LAnilya, i must ponder this...

So the timeline shifted again, and this time Sylar was able to stop Hiro from cutting him where before they saved Claire he wasn't. Interesting ...

He had them when future Hiro got to the point of current Hiro timeline where he cuts Sylar in the neck with the sword. He says that in the future, in the last episode. Hence, he came back to warn Peter to save the cheerleader because Sylar got Claire in Texas at the school, if no one intervened.

Yes, the future episode is weird, because some events that would change the future have already happened ( Sylar getting Claire ), but others have not yet happened ( Hiro killing Sylar ). So the timeline is in a bit of contradiction with itself at that point. I just went back and glanced over episode 20 after watching episode 21. The really interesting thing I noticed that I didn't notice the first time was when Bennet, Future Hiro, and Ando were in Odessa arguing, Hiro says "I only want the ones I brought you - D.L., Candace, and Molly Walker". We meet Molly in episode 21 as the sick little girl. Who is Candace?

So the timeline shifted again, and this time Sylar was able to stop Hiro from cutting him where before they saved Claire he wasn't. Interesting ...

No, Hiro is not supposed to actually kill Sylar until the day after the election ( or two days, can't remember, its the day the bomb goes off ).

Did Syler stop him, or was Hiro not able to go through with it? That was more the impression that I got, that Hiro was struggling with actually killing someone.

yeah Hiro jumped the gun two days. Hopefully be able to pull it off.

Candace, no clue.

Remember in the future when Nathan/Sylar said "i even met a girl who helped me win the election" That is the nugget they dropped that has me pondering.

the girl that helped him was the shapechanger i believe, killed her became Nathan. And as for the election that is what I believe jessica's son is for. The voting equipment.

Whatever happened to the dude who can go invis? I'm slowly rewatching the season ... this is really one of the best shows I've seen in a long time

You mean Claude, the actor who played one of the Dr Who's, Kelraz?

He said at some point that he was avoiding everyone, so I imagine he took off for parts unknown.

Seems to me I heard they picked the name for Claude from the original actor to play The Invisible man back in the day....

Love this show, tho I suspect it'll be too smart and fringy for the masses err long. ;(

Fandros

yeah Hiro jumped the gun two days. Hopefully be able to pull it off.

Candace, no clue.

Remember in the future when Nathan/Sylar said "i even met a girl who helped me win the election" That is the nugget they dropped that has me pondering. candace is the shapeshifter, but by now we all know what happen to her.

One thing that I notice.. the second comic book Hiro picked up.. the style of it looks kind of different not to mention the missing colors and caption words.. I may be wrong, but I think either Peter or Sylar may made it.

Also Claire did infact die in the future.. Sylar killed her by the fire place.. right befor he was doing the broadcast on TV (during which time Future Peter and Hiro was attacking that building)

Timber:

Claire dies in the future AFTER Hiro tells peter to save the cheerleader save the world.

Sylar hadnt stollen Issacs power, so he couldnt of done the comic. My guess is that future is too volitile now to put the words in since Hiro is mucking with time.


Also, i think Linderman has Mica over to fix the broken laptop with Seresh's formula on it.

yea.. that is what I said.. it was in the futur that he killed her. They both were in the same room, but at the time she thought he was Nathan because he was using his shapshifting powers

"Also, i think Linderman has Mica over to fix the broken laptop with Seresh's formula on
it."

That makes sense, and the company definitely works for Linderman. But why is the big question.

Timber:

Sylar hadnt stollen Issacs power, so he couldnt of done the comic. My guess is that future is too volitile now to put the words in since Hiro is mucking with time.
.

I'll agree to that. When the words were missing, since he braught back through time I figure it hadn't happened yet therefore the words would be missing.

No I dont think so. Linderman has stolen Micah to make him change the election results in favor of Nathan. Thats my guess anyway. if it was for the notebook, he could start working immediately, Micah wouldnt have to wait under Candace's supervising.

The girl who helped Sylar was Candace - by "giving" her brain he was able to become Nathan and win the election. Candace is the person I dont pity anyway, she was a bitch - however that makes Sylar way too dangerous.

The future is indeed volatile - when Hiro jumped the future, he has met what would have happened if he didnt do anything. Now its his job to change the future. As we can see, going back in time couldnt save Charlie, she got dead anyway. Going back in time to save Claire couldnt save her on long term, she got killed in the future anyway. The question is - can Hiro go back and kill Sylar changing the history. Honestly, I dont think he can - my bet is that Sylar will escape somehow - but that wouldnt be a typical Hollywood ending. 10 more days to find out :)

My other ponders though: Sylar got Mollie Walker in the future. Molly's power is that she can find anyone. How the heck didnt Sylar find Peter for 5 years then?

Another idea: Sylar got Hiro - he went back in time and gave the real Hiro the false comic book without text so that Hiro dares to attack him - and then he gets Hiro earlier.

Lani

p.s. Time travel kill the best of the stories I think - things dont make any sense with time travel, why doesnt Hiro go back to the time when Sylar was a kid? And kill him as innocent child? Or kill his mom before Sylar is born? Or less violently, disrupt that evening 9 month before Sylar's birth?

Herio is having a hard time killing the adult Sylar....everyone deserves a chance at redemption.

Noway he'd be able to talk himself into killing the child Sylar.

Yea. Man I love this show.

p.s. Time travel kill the best of the stories I think - things dont make any sense with time travel, why doesnt Hiro go back to the time when Sylar was a kid? And kill him as innocent child? Or kill his mom before Sylar is born? Or less violently, disrupt that evening 9 month before Sylar's birth?
Or why didn't Peter stop time to kick Sylar's ass before they fight in the future? ;)

I dont think Sylar can really be effected by that, because in the last show Hiro froze time in Sylar's mothers room, when he was about to make his first attemp at killing him, he was able to break free from it and used his **iceman** like powers to break the sword

I think that was just Hiro losing his nerve.

Sylar doesn't actually kill people....see!!! (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070514)

http://www.nbc.com/Fall_Preview/

did you see that Heroes returns for another season wonder whats next???

Hmm something Mika and Candce said to each other while in the Hotel room.. something along the lines Mika saying.. **.. I have a cousin that eats like yu.. he's big.** and Candce said.. "".. yea.. so am I..** and later on when they are in the voting area while she was in the form of the black women that was a little big.. she said to him **.. how do you know that this isnt the real me..**

In another show she said that she can make people see what ever she wants them to see. This has me thinking that she had problems and was made fun of by the way she look originaly.. and thats why she went to alife of crime and on the run

Based on the 5 years gone episode, Candace is supposed to die - but I am also wondering what corpse we will see at her death :)

Spoiler of episode 22:
I am glad Linderman dies - I just pray that DL survives - even if chances are very slim at that. But there are still many questions to solve in last episode. Molly Walker (i.e. the Walker systeme), Ando, Nathan getting killed, Micah killed, and they speak about an old Hero coming back :)

I just want a real comic style sylar vs peter fight longer than the last one.

My guess for episode 23:

It should be Sylar against Hiro if the story is right. However my guess is that Sylar will win, Ando will intervene, die, and that will give enough strength to Hiro to finish Sylar. Then we will find out that it wasnt Sylar he killed, but Peter, who got illusioned by Sylar (who already got Candace). Hence the scar. Then Sylar will laugh and get away (probably fade in a wall, because he has found DL dead, and will just get him too). Peter will heal thanks to Claire.

But Mohinder will be ready for this, since Hiro has spoken to him, and with the help of Molly Walker, they will chase Sylar and... Welcome Season 2.

... then again I might be wrong :)

Lani

I think there will be a painting. Something that says if there ISNT a bomb something REALLY bad is going to happen. Nathan will be told about this and then convince Peter he has to do it to save people.

I think there will be a painting. Something that says if there ISNT a bomb something REALLY bad is going to happen. Nathan will be told about this and then convince Peter he has to do it to save people.

VERY good thought!

8 Days till season 2!

Im so ready!

Yea I am too. This summer has been hell on TV and especially August/September. New shoes will turn that around!

the week of the 24th everything starts im so jazzed

Yea I am too. This summer has been hell on TV and especially August/September. New shoes will turn that around!

Netflix helped that with BSG season 2 and Highlander season 1, hehehe, among other stuff.

Rewatching Season 1 right now with the girlfriend (its her first time) and I can't help but think Peter needs to die or something next season. He's just way too powerful. Why have all the heroes with all of their different powers if Peter can do them all in conjunction with each other. That is, assuming he gets hit shit together after blowing up. Regardless, can't wait!

to get comic book dorkish on you, Mimic in marvel can do the same thing peter can, its just not to the extent. You still have to master the ability. Who would win, Spiderman or a guy who suddenly gets stronger, agily, and has dangersense.

Having the murderer appear in a hoodie was a Lost-style way of adding uneeded mystery to the whole plot.

Anyone else think that perhaps Hiro ends up being Kensei?

would that make him his own grandfather ?

would that make him his own grandfather ?

omg who knows... so much can happen!!! AHHHHHHHHH

No, because he was never related to Kensai. However it is my belief that his father's power is he lives forever and was the real hero behind Kensai and the English guy was just the person to pawn the legacy off on.

Ok, I'm a little lost... who are the two in Honduras trying to reach New York?

They're new. She has some sort of power that kills people (except for herself) and he has some sort of power that keeps hers in check. They're racing to get to Mohinder's dad because he wrote a book about people with powers and they hope he'll cure them.

Is it monday yet?!

yeah i think he can negate peoples power, and she has some crazy death field power (ala Omega Red) or something, not sure what the signifigance of the black oozing form the eyes.

I thought the black from the eyes was blood, which looks dark in poor lighting.

Hiro Becomes Takezo Kensai!!! I Knew It!

no, Kensai's wounds were healing themselves. you didn't notice? he's one too

no, Kensai's wounds were healing themselves. you didn't notice? he's one too

Oh i know that, but he became him for a day :)

This show is so awesome! Claire cut off her toe and I knew that guy was watching!

i effing gagged when she did that...

so what happened to her original toe? was it on the floor?

and if peter sucked her power to regen, did he regen from one source? since he was blown to bits :devil

or is that sylar in disguise?

goddamn, i'm so confused now :mad:

so what happened to her original toe? was it on the floor?

and if peter sucked her power to regen, did he regen from one source? since he was blown to bits :devil

or is that sylar in disguise?

goddamn, i'm so confused now :mad:

I dont think its Sylar in disguise, I think it really is Peter, and he must have regenerated the way she did when she cut her toe off. Perhaps he didnt die when the explosion occured... Perhaps the explosion left him simply knocked out and with amnesia.

There was no proof that when he explodes he would die.

This show is so awesome! Claire cut off her toe and I knew that guy was watching!My wife and I were wondering if her toe would grow a new Claire...

didn't sylar crawl down the sewer? so isn't he still alive too?

More Claires would be best.

Liking the new season.

From what it showed we will see next week, Sylar is alive. And yes i think he vanished and the sewer was open to show that he got away.

but sylar isn't the confused peter in ireland. first, syalr wouldn't help a girl like peter did but more importantly the chick who shapeshifts didn't die.

that being said we now have two heroes that can fly albeit with different styles. it means the powers aren't exclusive. that is interesting.

Claire's new boyfriend who can fly -> Who's the daddy!

Shape shifter girl is dead. That sucks, I liked her. Great episode last night.

Claire's new boyfriend who can fly -> Who's the daddy!

Claire's new boyfriend and Claire's daddy......an interesting piece of drama to watch unfold, given the bit of history shared last night.

well, there goes bringing him home to meet the parents ;)

or...

I also thing that Claire is some how related to Kensai. Also, I dont know if I was fully paying attention but when they had Peter's mom in the police station asking her question.. she did make a refrance to being married (or dated) Hiro's dad long time ago..

I don't think we necessarily need to assume they're all related if they have superpowers. Its not like its one genetic line, but multiple families. For example, the kids from Honduras probably aren't related to the Haitian and so forth. But Kensai being a hundred generations behind Claire ... well anything is possible I guess.

Kind of sucks.. looks like the two Honduras are going to die, and really soon. Real small world for them out of all people ran into Sylar, looks like he may already is back on the path to be unstopable.

That new girl, Monica I think her name is, has that cool **copy cat** power, cant wait to find out what exactly is her limit on what she can copy and learn

well, i only had one complaint about last night's episode (and it's really minor). if monica lives in new orleans and was there for hurricane katrina, she should have known she lives in a PARISH and not a county. louisiana has parishes.


other than that, it was a great show! my husband and i both sat there and was like "and why is making a rose out of a tomato some kind of talent?" does that mean she can only do something if she saw it on tv? isn't that dvd of claire falling and doing stupid shit and recovering from it still missing? and if that gets out on tv and monica watches it, would she be able to do the same thing? hmmm

i think i've had too much caffeine this morning :devil

I too was thinking along the same line about what Monica can mimic, I'm just waiting for her to meet Peter, now that would really be intresting :D

*Hmm hmm wonder what would happen if she watches a movie like X-Men**

Well to be honest I never quite got the Maya and her brother story or how they were going to fit into things and it looks like now they aren't going to be around much longer anyway... unless there is some twist we still don't know :p

Well to be honest I never quite got the Maya and her brother story or how they were going to fit into things and it looks like now they aren't going to be around much longer anyway... unless there is some twist we still don't know :p

Perhaps Sylar will kill Maya and steal her power, and then it will be a showdown between Sylar and the only man who can stop him.... Maya's Brother?

isn't that dvd of claire falling and doing stupid shit and recovering from it still missing? Mr. Bennet was the one that took that.

I was most shocked by Parkman's dad. Thats quite a twist.

Now imagine what this show would be like if Claire trusted her dad, and vice versa - they'd have been able to talk about the boy and not have so much drama there. And if Mrs. Petrelli would tell Nathan and Parkman exactly what was going on. If everyone didn't keep trying to keep their secrets they could all work together.

Ultimately I'm starting to get frustrated. It seems like it takes so damn long for the story to progress, and so many new characters and the story fragmented all over the place. Hell, that episode didn't even have time to cover Hiro or Peter, and Jessica/Nikki hasn't been in the show all season because there's just so much going on.

Well to be honest I never quite got the Maya and her brother story or how they were going to fit into things and it looks like now they aren't going to be around much longer anyway... unless there is some twist we still don't know :p

Can Maya's brother somehow negate any powers near him?

That is an interesting twist Byl; guess we'll have to wait and see.

Ultimately I'm starting to get frustrated. It seems like it takes so damn long for the story to progress, and so many new characters and the story fragmented all over the place. Hell, that episode didn't even have time to cover Hiro or Peter, and Jessica/Nikki hasn't been in the show all season because there's just so much going on.Yay to no Jessica/Nikki, I honestly never liked her at all. I also wouldn't shed any tears if Maya and her brother fall to Syler, we didn't need extra characters and since I usually work while the TV is on, less subtitles is a good thing. I was frustrated that we didn't get to see Hiro either, and especially Peter after that buildup last week.

Anyone by chance rembers what powers Peter's Mother has.
also I am trying to figure out who all 12 members in that old picture were, I know for sure of these :
1) Mr. Linderman
2) Peter's mother
3) that invisable man (forgot his name, but the one that help Peter control his powers)
4) Hiro's father
5) Parkman's father (and from last week's show he is highly involved and has a big current role)
6) Forgot what his name was, but that guy Dr. Suresh is working for now
7) that old black man Peter was taking care of in the first season

I'm not sure of the rest of rember the picture **roommate mistakenly deleted it from the DVR ( that son of a ....) but I do rember some unknown female that was in the lower right hand side of it.. and also mention of Peter's dad nest to his mother in it.. but not sure if that also made him one of the 12 original member's of that **Secert Group**

6) Forgot what his name was, but that guy Dr. Suresh is working for now "Bob" I think is his name.

There are two more that we don't know who they are yet I think as well, but your list is good.

Timber on NBC.com you can watch all of the episodes from this season.

Peter's dad was part of the original 12. His power, whatever it was, or the guilt associated with it caused him to kill himself. I'm not sure if it was said in the show, but in their video game for phones it was revealed that Arthur Petrelli and Maury Parkman were members of the original 12 before the episode of Matt finding the picture of his father.

Invisible guy was named Claude. The "old black man" was Charles Deveaux - who I assume died of the same disease that killed Mohinder's sister.

It seems that the 12 formed the original Company, and eventually a few of them wanted out.

So here's my big question. I was at Borders this morning and apparently there's a book about Hiro going back in time to save Charlie coming out in December. This got me thinking ... why is this important?
Charlie was killed by Sylar, so Sylar now has a super memory. Peter absorbs powers so now Peter has a super memory. Now Peter can't remember anything -- does this mean that one of his own powers is that to remember lots of things?

Rewatching the show, you only see 11 faces total. The 12th is covered up in every instance that my girlfriend and I were able to find the picture. We must assume that the 12th person then isn't Matt's dad (as I originally thought) but the killer. Also of note is that everyone is looking forward - except for Mr. Petrelli ... weird.

I think the lapse of memory is brought on by him bieng zapped by that girl which gave him electrical powers. just my idea.

Ah now thats a thought, he did get powers from her didn't he - and they were the first that he discovered he could use so we'd likely assume they were the last he came in contact with. Very good observation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/fireslayer1672/peter.png


If you look closely it lists peters sex as female....is this another ability we don't know about? :p

If you look closely it lists peters sex as female....is this another ability we don't know about? :p

LOL

Well he humped the Simone Deveaux ... daughter of another Hero who presumably had some sort of power. Guess its possible her power was looking like one gender but being another and when he got near her he got that power so it all worked out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/fireslayer1672/peter.png


If you look closely it lists peters sex as female....is this another ability we don't know about? :p
lmao.. I think you just found one of the many screw ups that are in alot of movies / tv shows

While at work today another person that is a big Heros fan pointed out I mistake I may of made... that invisable guy wasnt realy an original member of the first 12, but infact he was just a person that was apart of it that was workign with Clair's dad.. opps my back :D

Wow last night was boring, wasn't it? Nothing much happened other than Bennett being all badass and evil.

Takezo Kensei turning on Hiro?!!!!

Anyways, I like how Bennet and Claire are starting to lie to each other back and forth, it is really starting to make things interesting, especially with what Claire is willing to do now to get her way.

I actually enjoyed the episode, The painting of Peter next to a Bio hazard symbol with another face on his other side was interesting though. I cannot think of where it will fit in yet.

Honestly I'm getting frustrated; too many damn plot lines and it seems like they bounce around allot. One hour each week really isn't enough for this show. Even hating the flow I still enjoy it though; guh.

Needs to be a two hour show imho!

That being said they are developing a secondary show to spin off from the main.

Spin off w/o the main characters, probably won't be that good. Like the Grey's Anatomy spin off. And actually, that may have been pushed back another year / killed because of the writer's strike.

If I remember correctly, it bounced around a lot (too much) 1st season too, and then came together in the end. We just have to hope.

Wow! So I just watched an interview with Tim Kring and he went on to discuss how he writes these in "Volumes" and not "Seasons". Season 1 was Volume 1, but Volume 2 ends at Episode 11. In other words, we're halfway there to knowing how these plot twists and stuff end and THEN they begin Volume 3 which will take us through the remainder of the season.

And its a promise that a lot of the story arcs will always wrap themselves up at the end of the season and not make the fans suffer what we did with Lost never having answers but always having more questions.

Also, Adam Monroe was the name on the folder that Bob held when Mohinder was yelling at him and thats a name we've heard a few times - he's one of the founders of the company and in that photo according to the mobile game that they had out a while ago.

Adam showed up last night, it was Kenzo. Seems him and Peter have something going on.

I think he had the hatian take his memoeries so he could get closer to Adam and stop him.

Yes, we did see a snipet of the Haitian taking Peter's memories. But how did Peter's mom help him get it back is what I wonder.

I think he had the hatian take his memoeries so he could get closer to Adam and stop him.

That's an excellent thought Grey!
I was shocked to see who Adam was but only for like 2 seconds then I realized how much sense it makes.

Well what exactly is Peter's mom's powers? Has it ever truly been said? I can't remember what hers is.

I seem to recall she had a power slightly similiar to Linderman's. I also don't think we know what power Bob has either.

she said she can heal. She told Claire she coulud do the same thing as here just different.

Okay I'm caught up (ie I watched the whole series over the last two days).

I have seen some questions come about that I would like to have answered.

First off, why all of the sudden so many people discovering they have powers? And then it is also a coincidence that every other person they bump into has powers?

The fact that Keinsu all of the sudden has regenerative powers sucks. Were people "evolving" back then too but just didn't know it???? And of course he *just* found out about it when Hiro shows up?

I couldn't find anyplace where Peter's mom says what her power is.

All of the sudden everyone and their parents, cousin's and siblings has abilites.

Concerning the "death" of Sylar, I think he just tricked them into thinking he was dead. He probably altered his vital signs.

Concerning the girl who could shape change, in fact she created illusions...which was much more powerful than that. She was a heavy girl as shown when she was killed. Also, Sylar couldn't absorb her power. She was also the one who drug Sylar down the manhole and rescued him.

Also, abilities can be duplicated. The invisible man made reference to Peter as "one of those" indicating that his power wasn't unique. I guess he just has to come in contact with another , where as Sylar has to cut your head open to get another ability. But at least two people can fly that I have seen.

The whole story about Hiro going back in time is a little boring. I don't see much point besides giving some reason that he is a sword wielding badass in the future.

But it is still a fun show to watch. I hope it doesn't let me down now like 24.

One other thing I didn't see brought up.... Hiro's dad was Sulu from the original Star Trek, and the copycat girls Grandmom was Lt Uhura from the original Star Trek. I guess it won't be long until we see Shatner on it :)

I don't think the point of Hiro going back in time was boring or pointless; it's where we discovered Kensei was Adam. And I think Kensei is a powerful SoB.

I'm with you, I don't remember anywhere that Peter and Nathan's mom revealed her power.

I agree that it seems like they introduce all these characters and then it's like next week they are forgotten. I don't get the South American brother and sister thing or the mimic chick. I think they try to put too much into the story personally so it seems splotchy.

The parent's cousins siblings thing... well that's b/c they were tracking who was killing everyone in that photo so that is why the story is concentrated there. And we found out that Adam is the evil bastard who is masterminding the whole thing. I see why the Haitian and West and Kensei were introduced into the story but the others I just don't get yet... I'm sure though we will find out eventually :)

I seem to recall she had a power slightly similiar to Linderman's. I also don't think we know what power Bob has either.

Bob can transmute items into gold.

Sylar couldn't absorb her power because he couldn't use any powers, not even his own. He lost all those abilities when Hiro stabbed him and then ... something happened to him. Perhaps the Company meddled. We shall soon see!

The Hiro going back in time part I found interesting. He grew up as a child learning stories about heroic acts that he did under an alias. How weird is that? And of course it developed the character Adam, who lives forever and once knew a Hiro Nakamura, and later he befriended another Nakamura who had a son who is the very same Hiro. Thats a pretty big plot twist. (Also note that a lot of your criticisms are recently acknowledged by Tim Kring as mistakes here: http://tv.ign.com/articles/833/833343p1.html )

The mimic chick I think is going to set herself up as St. Joan I believe, a vigilanty who is helping rebuilding New Orleans in the post Katrina world. I forsee her as a character that pops in and out helping out the Heroes now and again but probably never a major character. Remember Micah introduced her to the St. Joan character and that character was created by Isaac Mendez who told the future!

Also of note the current scheduled Season Finale is December 3rd, wrapping up all of these story lines. That will mark the end of Volume 2, since the writers are on strike. Hopefully the writers will return and they can resume Volume 3 shortly after the holidays.

As for Alejandro and Maya, and this is all speculation ... he seems to have the ability to cure radical ailments. Jessica is currently afflicted with an incurable ailment which we can predict to be the first of the outbreak of the Shanti virus. I'd imagine Alejandro surviving from Sylar and making it to Mohinder is the key to curing the disease.

That's right, forgot about that. I figure he can probably do other transmutations, much like the guy that melted metal that Sylar impersonated in Season 1.

Related to that, something I was thinking is when Matt's father shows Matt that his power is actually more than he had originally though. I wonder if some of the other powers are like that also. Perhaps Nathan can do more than just fly, what if he had control of the air ( ie, weather powers ).

Or along that line, can Claire can live forever since she's shown all other powers that Adam has shown? They probably regenerate past aging or disease.

Hiro's father never shared what his power is (though we find out about it later).

Angela Petrelli's power is unknown still at this time, but I wonder what it had to do with her getting caught shoplifting socks in Season 1 :)

How much would that suck for Claire? We were discussing the same thing at work - I don't think you could pay me enough to live eternity as a teenager.

I must have missed something...who is the "adam" character? I realize he is the samuri guy but who is he in the big picture.


I'm sure they can all die. I don't know what I missed with the adam character.

Overall it is entertaining. I don't want my few logical problems make anyone think I'm down on the whole thing. I would have had a much more glamorous Peter/Sylar battle though.

Also, does anyone else remember the old Star Trek People? What is Hiro's Father's ability? I missed that also.


The Hiro going back in time part I found interesting. He grew up as a child learning stories about heroic acts that he did under an alias. How weird is that? And of course it developed the character Adam, who lives forever and once knew a Hiro Nakamura, and later he befriended another Nakamura who had a son who is the very same Hiro. Thats a pretty big plot twist. (Also note that a lot of your criticisms are recently acknowledged by Tim Kring as mistakes here: http://tv.ign.com/articles/833/833343p1.html )

I'm still lost after reading this.

Are you sure you watched all of the episodes? hehe :D

Good catch Fild, I actually have only seen up to Out of Time, So I have 3 or 4 more to go :)

Glad you caught that.

Now I need to find where to watch them. The NBC site doesn't have them. I have been watching with the Netflix "watch online" feature.

Any other suggestions?

Well, the NBC site is kind of wacky at the moment, but I think 'Out of Time' is the most recent episode. I just watched it last night and I'm pretty sure that was the name of the episode.

Adam is Adam Monroe, who is slowly revealed to be the founder of The Company. He brought all the older people in the photograph together originally. First Suresh sees his name on a folder Bob has, then Peter gets the note from him and finally Bob reveals some details about him to Nathan. Bob states that he is the one killing everyone. The end of 'Out of Time' is where we first see him and realize he is Kensei that Hiro has been helping in ancient Japan ( and later betrays ).

This does however bring up something else that is bugging me about the story line. If Adam is the same Kensei ( which appearances seem to indicate ), who is more or less immortal, and is bent on revenge on Hiro, why did he not kill Hiro as a child. Why has he waited so long? I'm sure there is some mind bending space-time mumbo jumbo involved, but it is bugging me.

I just watched Out of Time. I am willing to bet that he either doesn't care too much about Hiro or Hiro's Father (I am going to call him Sulu since I don't know his name) and his ability may be the reason.

Also, remember, Adam got all these guys together to make the world a better place.... probably is over the Japanese girl now and can forgive a little.... I'm sure tons of people come and go when you are immortal.

Also, how does the flying boy remember the man with "horn rimmed glasses" when everyone else gets the Haitian treatment?

Oh, and if they are smart they need to learn a lesson from the Sylar fiasco and go ahead and kill Matt's dad before something else happens.

How much would that suck for Claire? We were discussing the same thing at work - I don't think you could pay me enough to live eternity as a teenager.

Ala Highlander, I do not believe she could regenerate if her head was removed from her body.

Ala Highlander, I do not believe she could regenerate if her head was removed from her body.

Kensei aka Adam eluded to that in out of time. He said something to Hiro about stopping time and cutting off his head to kill him.

Ala Highlander, I do not believe she could regenerate if her head was removed from her body.

I would also bet if all of her atoms were ripped apart from a nuclear blast ... she'd die.

That didn't seem to stop Peter. Granted we don't know exactly how he exploded, but one can imagine. Also, Adam was inside a tent with a lot of gun powder, one can only assume he took a beating.

Actually ... it also didn't seem to stop Nathan. I bet we'll see a bit of that in this upcoming episode.

I couldn't find anyplace where Peter's mom says what her power is.

All of the sudden everyone and their parents, cousin's and siblings has abilites.

Concerning the girl who could shape change, in fact she created illusions...which was much more powerful than that. She was a heavy girl as shown when she was killed. Also, Sylar couldn't absorb her power. She was also the one who drug Sylar down the manhole and rescued him.


If I can recall correctly, Peter's mom mention what her power was back in season 1, I forgot which one exatly but it was the show where Claire ran away from the Hatian guy and went to his apartment in New York. Where Peter's Mom and the Hatian guy were waiting

The shape shifter chick did mention that she was a **big kid** and was teased alot when she was younger and around Micha's age back in season one when she and Linderman kidnapoped him and wanted to use him to get Nikki to work for them

yeah they did a few comic books (soon to be published as 1 large book for DC comics) about Betty (shape changer) in high school.

Also in the previews for next week's show, it looks like it going to show what all happen in the events right after the end of season one. It show a quick flash of when Nathan and Peter was flying away, it also looked like Peter was pushing away from Nathan, so that may explain just a little bit on how he didnt get blasted into little radioative waste :D

On a side note doesnt it seem kind of funny and wierd that the *shapeshifter* girl still died in this version of the futur/present by the hands of Sylar

Also, remember, Adam got all these guys together to make the world a better place.... probably is over the Japanese girl now and can forgive a little.... I'm sure tons of people come and go when you are immortal.

Going to have to agree to disagree on this point. I think Adam got all these guys together to look for Hiro. I think that is why the company is tagging all of the "special" people in Season 1. While all the underlings believe they are doing it for the world's protection, Adam and Linderman are pulling the strings ( and Linderman is just Adam's henchman of sorts and probably isn't aware of why Adam wants to find all the "special" people ). I just haven't quite figured out how Adam missed Hiro when he was right under his nose. Nakamura's son wasn't a secret, as we see him in the flashback scene where Nakamura puts baby Claire in Noah's care. I can't recall if Hiro ever used his last name while in the past.

It also follows that while Adam laid low for years ( literally hundreds ), I bet that once Hiro discovered his powers and the battle with Sylar was begun, he came to the attention of the company. I would not doubt that the entire "Nathan becomes president by letting his brother blow up" scheme from Season 1 was Adam's plan to smoke out Hiro. Now that I think of it, this could be why Nakamura was first on Adam's list to be killed.

Going to have to agree to disagree on this point. I think Adam got all these guys together to look for Hiro. I think that is why the company is tagging all of the "special" people in Season 1. While all the underlings believe they are doing it for the world's protection, Adam and Linderman are pulling the strings ( and Linderman is just Adam's henchman of sorts and probably isn't aware of why Adam wants to find all the "special" people ). I just haven't quite figured out how Adam missed Hiro when he was right under his nose. Nakamura's son wasn't a secret, as we see him in the flashback scene where Nakamura puts baby Claire in Noah's care. I can't recall if Hiro ever used his last name while in the past.

It also follows that while Adam laid low for years ( literally hundreds ), I bet that once Hiro discovered his powers and the battle with Sylar was begun, he came to the attention of the company. I would not doubt that the entire "Nathan becomes president by letting his brother blow up" scheme from Season 1 was Adam's plan to smoke out Hiro. Now that I think of it, this could be why Nakamura was first on Adam's list to be killed.

Well they were told that was the goal. The betterment of the masses, perhaps at the expense of the few. In the comic books Linderman healed Mr. Petrelli after he got shot in Vietnam and they formed a bond and you can imagine they all trickled together through similiar scenerios, with Adam being the oldest knowing what to look for. Hiro used his name quite a bit in the past, and I am sure Adam was able to put two and two together with his father and baby Hiro and the Hiro that went back in time.

I just got done watching a few of the old shows and something that was said in the episode where Elle first made an apperance **Fight or Flight**.
She was on the phone talking to an unknown person.. and at the end of the conversation she said ..**sorry daddy...** Any ideas on exactly who she may have been talking to..?

*edit*
by any chance anyone else thinks Sylar was giving the injection which may be a reason why his powers were gone when he woke up?
ohh yea.. still watching other episodes :D

My guess is Bob is Elle's father and Elle is a little warped from growing up with the old way of the Company. But, while that makes logical sense, it doesn't really make dramatic sense for the reason they are hiding who her father is. So I could be wrong. :)

In the preview it sure looked like Elle was Bob's daughter. We know that after the explosion Bob knew where Peter was as did Elle, so putting two and two together isn't that far of a stretch.

well, i don't think that it's claire's dad that gets shot in the head. it's bob. look at the freaking glasses? they're not exactly horn-rimmed like claire's dad's glasses. they look more like bob's glasses.

I agree, I don't think it's Claire's dad either. I liked the last episdoe it really tied up allot of loose ends for me. Damn good stuff! :)

Yeah, what he said.

man, watching them every week sucks compared to watching a whole season in a few days. It seems obvious that Adam is a "good" guy... that makes Bob a bad guy.

man, watching them every week sucks compared to watching a whole season in a few days. It seems obvious that Adam is a "good" guy... that makes Bob a bad guy.

I don't know about that.

I am seeing perhaps Adam's genius and manipulative skills possibly coming out. I think the problem with bob might just be that he is holding information back which will be released soon and change their minds about him.

One thing about this show, nothing is as it seems and it can all change in one episode. I don't know who is good and who is bad tbh!

Holy Shit!

That was one wild episode, and the end left me totally unsure whether to feel it was good or bad.

I need to rewatch it, I feel like I missed a few things.

if Claire can regenerate does that mean it always feels like the first time ?


That episode was good cant believe Suresh thou unless its another plot for later on.

if Claire can regenerate does that mean it always feels like the first time ?

God, my girlfriend said the same thing last week. "Does she regrow her hyman every time? That can't be fun."

Incredible.....

Think of it tho.

If the Company thinks so highly of Noah , will they push to revive them all in the face of Adam's threat?

Great episode.....

indeed a great episode.

I'm kind of left with... a what the fuck?
But it was good.

That episode was amazing...

The whole part with Hiro was very well done. Him talking to himself as a child, accepting fate and finding out who killed his father. I rank those scenes as the best of the season.

So now we have time travel AND freaking coming back from the dead. So NOTHING is etched in stone anymore. And they talk about the writers for LOST making shit up as they go.

And for petes sake could Hiro PLEASE have a cool sword fight????

So now we have time travel AND freaking coming back from the dead. So NOTHING is etched in stone anymore. And they talk about the writers for LOST making shit up as they go.

Did you miss the entire part of the show where each of the characters get super powers?

I think I saw all the episodes... can you be more specific?

Claire 'came back from the dead' at least twice in season one. And time travel happened in the first or second episode (whenever future hiro came back to talk to peter in the subway). Those abilities are hardly new.

Ala Highlander, I do not believe she could regenerate if her head was removed from her body.

If we go by the wolverine model, the only thing that could really kill her and adam forever would be something like throwing them into the sun.

I saw pretty much everything to do with the 'adam' situation coming when the revealed he could regenerate (and hence live for a lllllllllllooonnnngggg time). That doesn't mean I'm not loving it though.

Slight derail...

Who would win: Adam from Heroes or Adam from Buffy?

Just one episode prior to Noah's coming back from the dead they used Adam's blood (which has the same properties as Claire's) to bring Nathan back from near death to fully regenerated. It made sense that Claire's blood could do the same, probably on someone who was only recently dead (instead of someone who was decomposing in the ground I'd imagine).

Who would win: Adam from Heroes or Adam from Buffy


Adam from heroes. Eventually.

Curious, after some 400 years of living as a mercenary the best attack choice Adam had was to bum rush Hiero's father over a wall??

I thought Maury Parkman made him think someone was pushing him over a wall - but I was wrong. Oops.

Between Maury and the illusion girl Silar killed, we could start second guessing every single episode now.

After the last show when Hiro met up with his father, I thought we were clearly supposed to know that it was Adam that pushed his father over?

Oh, hrm ... I actually missed that part when watching it, my mistake. I was thinking about a few weeks ago when they suggested it wasn't Adam but was Maury instead. You are correct.

ok you would think after Hiro showed up , peter would have figured this shit out by now,.

ok you would think after Hiro showed up , peter would have figured this shit out by now,.

Yea, and if Hiro dies next week i will be pissed off.

Seeing Hiro has become the face of the show in the public eye, more or less, I have my doubts he will be killed off. Unless, of course, he will be brought back as they have done with others already.

I see Hiro, Claire and Micah as being the three who will definitely survive the story; Molly I have my doubts about.

if Hiro is killed next week, i'll never watch that show again.

wait, isn't next week the FINAL show? my husband said "they never said season finale".

i think all bets will be off next week :devil :devil :devil :devil

Curious, after some 400 years of living as a mercenary the best attack choice Adam had was to bum rush Hiero's father over a wall??

Well said...haha

Although we don't really know what Sulu's (I mean Hiro's father) ability is/was. I can safely say it isn't flying though....or regeneration.

One more thing.... Hiro is on crack if he thinks he can beat Peter. Obviously Peter isn't affected by the time issue so he can zap, burn, invis, or go nuclear on Hiro as he sees fit AND he can regen....as long a he has his head.

Maybe it's to replicate himself?
That would be a twist....

Curious, after some 400 years of living as a mercenary the best attack choice Adam had was to bum rush Hiero's father over a wall??

That method leaves little physical evidence.

except for two bodies splatted at the bottom of a 40 story building :)

Well, 1 if Adam, got up, scraped Sulu off of himself, and wandered off....

One more thing.... Hiro is on crack if he thinks he can beat Peter. Obviously Peter isn't affected by the time issue so he can zap, burn, invis, or go nuclear on Hiro as he sees fit AND he can regen....as long a he has his head.

yet he took out Sylar when no one else could....

When they say final show, we're speculating that they mean the end of this chapter - and everything is up in the air with the writer's strike. But I don't know officially.

At the time Sylar couldn't time travel... and still can't. But Peter can and effectively negates that.

if Hiro is killed next week, i'll never watch that show again.

wait, isn't next week the FINAL show? my husband said "they never said season finale".

i think all bets will be off next week :devil :devil :devil :devil

They plan to make more shows whenever the writers resume, even so much they may be back shortly after the new year - else next september.

except for two bodies splatted at the bottom of a 40 story building :)

Adam got up and walked away. Much like how Claire got up and walked away after scaring the drunk cheerleader.

Obviously Hiro couldn't beat Peter, else the story would end there. Peter is gonna win, but we saw Parkman and Nathan involved in the next episode and I'm sure Peter seeing Nathan will turn him to the proper side.

well, i'm still saying if Hiro dies, i'm not watching it any more

well, i'm still saying if Hiro dies, i'm not watching it any more
agreed

well Hiro didn't die, but he did provide some pretty freaking horrid justice on Adam. So I guess Peter is going to spread the virus since it seeped into his hand, Would think if they were going to destroy the virus they would of brought some clorox with them or went to an incinerator.

Micahs mom dieng kind of sucks he lost both his parents now and Sylar is just plan scarey as hell again. Cant wait for the next season to begin

Jessica aint dead 10-to-1 DL makes a comeback.

Adam's situation is fooked up!

What do you mean it seeped into his hand? I turned tog reen dust and blew away, right before it showed the godsend symbol.

Great episode!

He incinerated it in his hands with his nuclear touch, and all that was left was the green dust.

And yeah, Adam got his just desserts.

Well we could all see the writing on the wall that Sylar was coming back. I kind of liked flying man, but since noone is ever dead for long in this show I'm not writing off anyone yet.

you have 2 people that can time travel. Noone has to stay dead really

He incinerated it in his hands with his nuclear touch, and all that was left was the green dust.

And yeah, Adam got his just desserts.

It seemed to me it absorbed into his skin or was that an illusion?

Fild, it seemed to absorb into his skin AFTER he made it into powder. You can rewatch the episode at www.nbc.com

I wish when they used Claire and Mohinder's blood to regenerate someone that was already dead, that they'd turn into a zombie.

Fild, it seemed to absorb into his skin AFTER he made it into powder. You can rewatch the episode at www.nbc.com (http://www.nbc.com)

I'm well aware of that, that is my point ;)

I wish when they used Claire and Mohinder's blood to regenerate someone that was already dead, that they'd turn into a zombie.

I wonder why Claire's hair doesn't instantly regrow when she gets it cut :)

Hair is kinda a by-productand not really alive to begin with ... its the folicles which are alive. She probably won't ever suffer baldness, however.

The disease was destroyed with the nuclear power generated by Ted's ability. I think it was just the dust that blew away afterwards you were seeing. Diseases don't look like grey dust clouds - that was the phial that held the disease.

So does anyone wonder if peter is really dead since he has claire's blood running through his veins?

wow. that I didn't think about. I bet nathan is alive now that you mentioned it. nikki is screwed though.

Well you can pretty much think about claire's blood like a drug. Her body as well as Adam's makes it, so of course it has as steady supply to stay young and alive. Since no one elses blood does, even if they get some of hers, its only a 1 shot deal. Though who's to say that Sylar needs brain matter to absorb powers. They never really show what he does, so maybe the injection of her blood might imbue him? I've been wondering about that part.

They show Sylar cutting skulls open like he is opening a watch to learn how the ability works. That is why I think he has to get to the brain.

Yes he's getting at the brain, but it never shows what he does to the brain. You can't just assume anything when it comes to comics and shit like that ;)

So does anyone wonder if peter is really dead since he has claire's blood running through his veins?

Remember peter has Claire's and Adam's power just by being near them. So essentially Peter's blood does the same thing as their's right?

he has to envoke the power so probably not

And I meant to say Nathan not Peter :D

So does anyone wonder if peter is really dead since he has claire's blood running through his veins?
Nathan... and has Adam's blood

Nathan... and has Adam's blood

Yes yes I typed the wrong names but everyone knew what I meant. Plus I did correct myself, sheesh put the pitchforks away! :)

you know us Woodelf Rangers must always try to get attention away from themselves due to the fact they die easy and fast :D

So that's in huh? I was pissed because I thought my DVR didn't record it this week.... now I remember why :)

So that's in huh? I was pissed because I thought my DVR didn't record it this week.... now I remember why :)
yup.. kind of sucks now, nothing really good to watch on TV on Mondays now. seems like it ended way sooner than it did last year :(

yup.. kind of sucks now, nothing really good to watch on TV on Mondays now. seems like it ended way sooner than it did last year :(

Because it did? :) It ended a good 13 episodes sooner.

I saw Hiro in a scrubs episode!

I saw Hiro in a scrubs episode!

Just saw Balls of Fury, and he was a washroom attendant in that. (Or has that been mentioned already?)