I'm so hardon for this atmo. Cant wait - im sure theres a thread on this already somewhere but I was just wondering, who else is gonna play?

I thought that the recent EQ retire-ies were drawn to this game. It is supposedly the "eq-killer #54" or sumfin like that : )

Most of the ubers are going to it. They have basically done it all in EQ. The problem I see is that they will blow through the content in WoW pretty quick. I give WoW 6 months before the ubers get bored. By that time EQ will have more content and many will come back. I think you will see the ubers bouncing back and forth between WoW and either EQ or EQ2. These MMO companies really can't create content fast enough for the really hardcore players.

I'm definatly going to play WoW :)

Waiting for EverQuestII myself.

Cartoon graphics just don't cut it for me. And it repeats the EQLive forumla far too much, where-as EQII is taking on a very different approach, which is appealing. Along with the somewhat realistic graphics.

I'm with Halo on this one.

If I want more of the same I'll stick with EQ. And I'll definately play EQ2 at launch.

Fandros

Ditto!

I have a feeling WoW will not be the EQ shatter game everyone expects it to be. My prediction is same thing with AO, UO, AC2 and especially DAOC and SWG. It will pull some people away for a while but they will come back, give it time.

P.S diablo sucks after 24 hours.

They won't be letting us see extreme end-game content before release. By "we", I mean beta testers. Honestly, considering that they deliver new stuff every patch, which makes me just say "wow" (no pun intended, for christ's sake don't even touch on that one). For example, talents basically can tune a character to the feel you want them. Mages get fire, ice, arcane spells, talents in one section specifically will make you want to drop the other 2 for use, except in rare instances (spent points in fire, and are fighting in a fire-based dungeon).

EQ2 seems good now, but the combat system is bordering insane stupidity. Vanguard will be interesting however. Say what you will, but a game based upon the idea of competition will be more interesting, as compared to say EQ2, which is going to be the flowery fru-fru/umbrella in glass type in regards to competition.

In the end, I bet I'll be either playing Vanguard. In the meantime, Savage and WoW :/

P.S diablo sucks after 24 hours. Yeah, I'd get bored of a game where I couldn't be a flamboyant retard about the fact that I sell pixelated crap while living with mommy and daddy, and having 0 uber guilds to stalk.

wow (pun intended tehe), I guess you must be bored in WoW with no flamboyant retards to stalk who sell pixelated crap.

I dunno, I mean Blizzard is known for two things:

a) NEVER, EVER meeting a deadline, which they've missed; and

b) Making some awesome freaking games.

I have to be honest, EQ was great, but it went to the wayside. SWG is good, but now with the Jedi revamp, well lets just say forget fighting anything the Jedi want cause they'll kill it before you can blink an eye. All the Jedi are now loose and there's no counter measure. Even worse, the quests won't be loaded up for all us non force sensitive types till next patch. So that means another month or so of putting up with being a second class player.

Purpose of the previous paragraph? Both games are SOE games, and both games have had Sony screw things up royally. Now EQ has some promising things in the mix as does SWG (the new space combat expansion), but will it be too little, too late?

I'm leaning strongly towards playing WoW. If I can get an Open Beta account for EQ2, I'll give it a shot, otherwise I'll leave it on the shelf. Between Sony just being frustrating to deal with and I'm assuming the hardware requirements are going to be out of this world, I just would rather avoid the headache. I've heard nothing but good things about WoW, which doesn't surprise me.

Anyhow, just my thoughts...

To be fair, blizzard has NEVER shown a shred of intelligence when it came to customer service and fixing bugs. Diablo has more hacks than a warez channel.

to be faire to blizzard, its easy to hack something saved on the client side, not a whole lot they could do there, but they are doing a hell of alot to hackers in D2/SC, as well as putting in newer ways to prevent hacking when on b.net

they squash bugs pretty fast in WoW. Diablo was horrible, everything was saved client side, so yeah it was easy to break.

In the end, WoW will have as many exploitable bugs as EQ honestly. How many people do you think actually use ShowEQ? Seriously, it would take the ShowEQ team less then a day to fix what the EQ dev team would break in a patch. You can't prevent everything, however ShowWoW (heh) will have no place in WoW, since they've already written protection against this. Literally stuff across the zone is not sent to the client, even npc's... unlike EQ which sends that data to the client. That and they have the ability to train "tracking" for certain mob types (beast, dragon, etc), which will show on the mini-map in the corner..

I have to admit, beta is fun when you find an insane exploitable bug, but they're guarenteed to be fixed on the next patch.

most likely I'll try WOW if I have time... but lot of plans coming out that might delay it for quiet a while.

WoW is too easy, they need to fix it. I hope they put decent challenge in EQ2.

WoW is fun, but we'll have to see how raid content goes once this baby goes live. So far, I'm impressed, and that's no easy task to accomplish.

Apparently they're holding on to the "End Game" material for a bit. They don't want to give out all the goods before the game has even began hehe. After all, I'm pretty sure have of the EQII dev team is playing it looking for ideas. ;)

The two games are similar in a lot of aspects. I'm sure they are playing each other's games.

I enjoy WoW. But its definetly over-hyped.

Its not gonna be the second comming of the messiah , and it might take over leadership in subscriber numbers barely(700,000 is a loftly goal even for WoW).

Unless the endgame content completly doex it for me..FFXI is gonna probly stay my main MMO for years...its endgame content is really challenging =/.

if you are in beta you can Find me on Soulki (horde) or Rhion (alliance). I play generally during days and don't see many guildies.

EQ2 beta > WoW ;).....Friends and Family beta is an ass load of fun! I highly doubt im going to wow tho. I have heard a ton of great reviews of WoW but im sticken with eq2

I'm going to try WoW first before sucking it up and giving my money back to Sony. Hopefully Blizzard can hold my attention.

Darus, check your PM had a couple questions about FFXI

Would be awsome if Sony repeats the server names.
Had a lot of fun on Ayonae Ro. From arseholes to good peeps. Would be great to repeat the experience with the same folks.

I talked to someone in EQ2 beta that said there's currently an ARo server or there's definite plans to have one at launch (I couldn't decide which he meant). Maybe we'll even be able to transition the board to handle the ARo server on both games.

I plan on playing wow , so far it seems ok from what i have read , seen from screen shots , if it turns out to not be what i`m looking for then maybe middle earth online or possible warhammer online will .

Wether it has and awsome end game or not is not really that inportant to me after 4 and half years raiding endgame stuff in everquest a nice relaxing game that i can log on to and play for 1 or 2 hours and see some kind of accomplishment and diversty,instead of spending that time lfg or 4 hours exp grinding just to see any real inprovement in your exp bar because that`s the only way you can get exp .

from the ways to get exp in wow which are exploring new aeras on your world map, or doing quest`s either solo or group based , or just exp grinding , every class can solo effectivly which is a + since i can`t count all the hours i spent lfg as a pally durning the dark days of kunark and velious .

then there is the eq version where solo exp was nerfed to 25 % less then it was pre pop . to the group bonus exp , soe is trying to remove all solo abilty
and force grouping , just look at the proposed changes for eq 2 . grouping is nice but shouldn`t be forced to . as it is now it`s basicl;y a penlalty to solo then the only way you can get exp is to exp grind for hours , no other option is aviable.

then there`s those that say wow is to easy and not a challange lol have you looked at eq lately ? you`d have to be retared and no abilty to operate a mouse and keyboard to not lvl these days .

with the newbie friendly tutourial , to the tripple exp no exp lose no corpse run till lvl 11 bull shit . to the find button that allows people to lazy to follow the glowing line to whatever npc they need , along with a title next to every npc showing what they are ie general suppiles , weapons, spells etc .

then figure the pok stone portals, then the gnome tranlocaters, dry docking the boats used to be have the fun getting exp was the journey to the exp spot , i still remember all the runs to places like karnors , aviak tree, overthere etc. to meet up with friends . now like 60 % of the population has no clue what lies more then 2 zones away from a pok stone and you say it`s challanging ? lol Game was more fun and challanging pre luclin . i still enjoy the old world, kunark and vellious expansions more then any that have been released since . i hit lvl 60 on jan 12 2001 , back when there were still hell lvls, it`s amuseing to hear people whine about how hard the game is now the game has been so dumbed down to entice new players that any real challange was removed long ago and with each new expansion they make it easier to acomdate the lower skill level of the new players and people wonder why it`s diffcult to find skilled players at the end game these days haha

But anywho started babling after 4 and half years of 5 to 7 days a week raids, from 4 to 6 hours durning the week to 8 to 12 hours a day on the weekend , the end game in wow and high lvl raid guilds is the last thing i`m worried about . although i know alot do


Tasarian Pureheart
Retired Protector of Marr
EX _ Sphere of Transcendence .

'I talked to someone in EQ2 beta that said there's currently an ARo server or there's definite plans to have one at launch (I couldn't decide which he meant). Maybe we'll even be able to transition the board to handle the ARo server on both games.'

- Too cool.

If anyone wants to look me up in WoW I'm usually on Redmeat-Tauren Warrior (Horde), Thoas-Dwarven Mage (Alliance), and Snikch-Human Rogue (Alliance). Although, I play a ton of different characters because they all seem fun. I haven't been in beta long but so far it's one of the most fun games I've played. I don't know how anyone can compare FFXI to WoW. WoW has got rid of every annoying aspect I can think of in an MMORPG and just kept the good stuff. The atmosphere and sense of scale is awesome. The whole quest system is great and makes leveling very fun and goal oriented. I can't really say enough great things about it.

then there`s those that say wow is to easy and not a challange lol have you looked at eq lately ? you`d have to be retared and no abilty to operate a mouse and keyboard to not lvl these days .

with the newbie friendly tutourial , to the tripple exp no exp lose no corpse run till lvl 11 bull shit . to the find button that allows people to lazy to follow the glowing line to whatever npc they need , along with a title next to every npc showing what they are ie general suppiles , weapons, spells etc .

then figure the pok stone portals, then the gnome tranlocaters, dry docking the boats used to be have the fun getting exp was the journey to the exp spot , i still remember all the runs to places like karnors , aviak tree, overthere etc. to meet up with friends . now like 60 % of the population has no clue what lies more then 2 zones away from a pok stone and you say it`s challanging ? lol Game was more fun and challanging pre luclin . i still enjoy the old world, kunark and vellious expansions more then any that have been released since . i hit lvl 60 on jan 12 2001 , back when there were still hell lvls, it`s amuseing to hear people whine about how hard the game is now the game has been so dumbed down to entice new players that any real challange was removed long ago and with each new expansion they make it easier to acomdate the lower skill level of the new players and people wonder why it`s diffcult to find skilled players at the end game these days haha

But anywho started babling after 4 and half years of 5 to 7 days a week raids, from 4 to 6 hours durning the week to 8 to 12 hours a day on the weekend , the end game in wow and high lvl raid guilds is the last thing i`m worried about . although i know alot do


Tasarian Pureheart
Retired Protector of Marr
EX _ Sphere of Transcendence .

This was a good few paragraphs I thought....

Sure is a good read but coming from someone who never experienced GOD to say the game has gotten easy is foolish. Maybe the leveling up and what not has( I have no plans of leveling another character anyways..2 lvl 65's are enough) but the high end content is far from easy...or dull or boring. I am sure I'll like WOW as much as the nexy..if I choose to buy it. I was around for hell levels, I was around for boats, I dont miss any of it :p

Ibudin

Really? I thought stuff like that is what made the game fun since it made it some what more challenging for the little things. Made it more adventurous if you ask me, which is why most play EQ. Nothing like being level 7 trying to get from kelethin to freeport by boat.

I made a message board a while ago to make sure that everyone that wants their friends to play together play on the same server. Its mainly alliance people right now but I guess it could be anyone when we decide a server.

Heres the link: http://p208.ezboard.com/bworldofwarcraftallianceteam25530

An EQ2 section, and a World of Warcraft section would be a good addition to these boards, so people can get together and play on the same server.

If we end up getting enough traffic for a certain game, we'll make boards for them.

As for comparing FFXI to WoW.

Gotta understand that my main thing in gaming is challenge and risk.

FFXI has harsh penalities for failure, and is challenging to my tastes.

Thus I'm naturally more inclined to play it and "Enjoy" myself in such an enviroment.
WoW is too easy IMHO, granted we havnt seen any of the major content yet, but leveling, crafting..questing..etc. Its just too easy for my taste *as is*..so loses alot of its appeal until I see something more inline.

That said..I'm still gonna buy WoW and play it, since me and alot of old aro guildies have already made plans too.
TBD if it'll be my "main" MMO or not.
Especially considering my time this last year hasnt been as free as it once was.

Sure is a good read but coming from someone who never experienced GOD to say the game has gotten easy is foolish. Maybe the leveling up and what not has( I have no plans of leveling another character anyways..2 lvl 65's are enough) but the high end content is far from easy...or dull or boring. I am sure I'll like WOW as much as the nexy..if I choose to buy it. I was around for hell levels, I was around for boats, I dont miss any of it :p

Ibudin
I haven't experienced GoD or any of its boss mobs, but I have experienced the other in 4 or 5 expansions worth. Dollars to doughnuts all the content was mastered by top guilds in roughly the same time frame.

In his original post he is commenting on making it much easier in general for the newer player.... and because you were around for all that stuff you are excluded from that group. He just hit some highlights that made the game easier but not all by far. Back space maps, targeting rings, AA's in generals... etc...

I think the point he was trying to make was you can get to 65 alot easier now than you could when PoP came out ( wasnt that the expansion that bumped to 65, its all a blur now to me) which has yielded lots of 65 with less quality than previously.

It's kinda like making it through English class on Cliff notes.... sure you get the right answers and you pass the tests but unless you actually read the book you still are not getting the quality of someone who actually did.

Who do you want perfoming surgery on you? Dr Smith who graduated from Harvard or Dr Johnson who graduated medical school from St Maria's West coast college in Guatemala?

Really? I thought stuff like that is what made the game fun since it made it some what more challenging for the little things. Made it more adventurous if you ask me, which is why most play EQ. Nothing like being level 7 trying to get from kelethin to freeport by boat.
Exactly.... I remember one instance. Shortly after Kunark launched I had my level 40ish cleric ported over to Dreadlands. After exiting the tunnel, my only instruction to get to Karnor was "follow the left wall"..... no map, and clip plane at zero I got snared by a spider that looked really evil... after rooting it and running I had no idea what was going to happen after I got the message my root had wore off. I ended up gating like sissy :(

But that was the adventure of not knowing what was going in and heading into it anyway... now days the players just go make a sammich while they are waiting for there corpse to pop in the GY.

After my experiences with EQ, and now with SWG (Sony went and f***ed up the game good and proper now, I'll explain), I feel that if I give SOE one more dime by buying EQII, I deserve to be dragged out in the street and kicked in the head repeatedly.

Between EQ just....well.....becoming what it has in the last year and SWG now having been "Fixed" (what I mean by fixed is that Jedi, or 5% of the population, now have an uber class with no restrictions. The combat balance they've been promising is at least 3 MONTHS AWAY!.), I can honestly say giving my money to another company that will offer up some properly working fun will be a welcome change. To all of you that said SWG does/will suck........it does now. Yes, I'm admitting it /grumble grumble. I'll eat my words. Sony actually posted that after they announced the delay in the combat rebalance 1000 accounts were cancelled in just one day, with many more following days after that. People are trully fed up and I think the new expansion might be too little too late.

Blizzard has been known for it's quality product (even if their product dates are out of wack), and I'm hoping the Blizzard name lives up to itself.

Worlds of Warcraft, here I come. Any SOE product? After 3 years of feeding you my money, well, you can take a long, hard suck on my ass!

I plan on WoW as soon as I can get a machine that can handle it..=/

I'll be playing WoW; how intensely I don't know, as work is taking a lot more of my time these days. But I like what I've seen so far, and EQ2's play-doh graphics and forbidding system requirements (considering that EQ1 has slowed to a slide show on my system these days as is, while CoH runs smooth as silk) leave me cold so far...

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Autarch - The Autonomous Champions of Order (TACO :) )
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As I heard with some beta-testing people, WoW is rather based on soloing, and every class is able to solo.... This is what is happening in SWG - everyone soloes there.

The strength of EQ and EQ2 is the mutual need of classes, that strengthens sociability of players, and we learn how to be more tolerant, more empathic...

I am definitely more EQ2 inclined than WoW inclined. But i will try wow out.

Lani

I'm going to try out WoW for sure, the PvP part being my highest focus. I growed a bit tired with EQ to fight with mobs, but I'm looking forward to wack some gnomes and humans all day long. ;)
I will give EQ2 a try tho, especially if they keep the same server names, to see again all our communauty. :)

i'll be playing. in fact, there's already a kieu on both servers. they just don't play...