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VTMole
03-25-2003, 08:04 AM
Personally, I am getting tired of people flaming their ex guilds. I think if you find yourself in a really evil guild, you should expose it before you leave. You still have access to GMOTD and forums and can watch the paranoia while they try to figure out who you are. Who knows? It might even make some officers think twice about screwing folks over.

Take my guild, Violent Tendencies. A nice group of people. But the officers are some real morally devoid hypocrites, who I have grown to loath.

Example:
Recently, VT got into one of its rare raiding cycles (always Chardok.) When the GL, Divinty, and her husband Unien realized that most of the live players had left, they had a recruitment phase and “absorbed” Blessed Union of Drunkards. After the honeymoon period, excited by the temporarily full roster, another VT officer decided to flex his guildremove muscle on one of them, and all BUD quit in disgust. In an effort to try to discredit BUD, Divinity removed their forum access, and Unien posted a PRIVATE conversation he had with one of them.
Unien Ultra-Violent: posted February 18, 2003 11:29 PM
Last night, right after I found out Anda was removed, I wanted to see how things were being looked upon by the former guildmates, so I sent dream a tell...here's what was said...

[Tue Feb 18 02:10:37 2003] You told Dreamchazer, 'should I ask what happened with andi?'
[Tue Feb 18 02:10:45 2003] Dreamchazer tells you, 'you really want to know '
[Tue Feb 18 02:11:20 2003] You told Dreamchazer, 'well...Bright is tellng me, but...I wanted your opinion really since he/she came over with you guys and I saw you all as friends.'
[Tue Feb 18 02:11:47 2003] Dreamchazer tells you, 'Hmmm - where to begin'
I’m not going to show the whole thing, because it is obvious that she thought it was confidential. But keep this in mind next time you talk to Unien.

Posting a private conversation sucks, but being a hypocrite about it blows. Only an hour before, Divinity had posted this.

Divinity Reigns Ultra-Violent : posted February 18, 2003 10:11 PM
Actually, I have the conversation you two had infront of me, if you'd like me to post it, Dream. No where in it does it give a different impression - but I wouldn't do that without your permission
But you will let the guy in the same room with you do it?

Here’s one closer to home for NAG. Just last week someone was joking about this sanctimonious letter. Scroll to the bottom of this page. pub142.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessage?topicID=3024.topic (http://pub142.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessage?topicID=3024.topic) LMAO. Divinity and Unien were almost always in the groups experiencing in the hedge. We called it our Guild secret experience place.

Stay tuned, loyal NAG readers. We have better stuff coming…porn rings and screenshots of mistells.

Oh, and to the hypocrites in VT. You thought you could control people by controlling the Guild Forum. Too bad you can’t control the public ones.

And until I choose to reveal myself, you can’t really even control your own.

ThePerfectFlaw
03-25-2003, 08:07 AM
This ToV v 13.7 or whatever?

Anterak
03-25-2003, 09:58 AM
BUD aborsbed??? WTF???
Best guild name ever :( ...

Orik of Ayonae Ro
03-25-2003, 10:25 AM
Personally... I think you are high on crack if you believe Divinity and Unien are mean spirited people.

As far as removing access to the forums for people who quit the guild "in disgust", it would be common sense to remove access. Would you let an employee keep the keys to your buisness if he quit because he was mad at you?

Was that conversation posted in an open forum? If it was in their members only section, it's not exactly posting it for everybody to see. It's a fairly common reaction when people quit a guild for others still in the guild to take it personally, if the conversation was posted to clear up or shed light on the situation then it would be in the interest of the guild to be able to read it.

Haloface
03-25-2003, 12:50 PM
Violent Tendencies... hedge maze quest... fucking it up... argh...bastards...

Hubbe
03-25-2003, 01:03 PM
Anon mules suck ass

Gamer1234
03-25-2003, 01:58 PM
Anon mules suck ass

So do corrupt admins who move threads so that they don't have to issue their friends warnings (while warning people they don't like), and threatening people with their admin powers of knowing their ip address then publicly stating their general area of residence.

Kreoshin
03-25-2003, 02:20 PM
Violent Tendencies... hedge maze quest... fucking it up... argh...bastards...

god was just gonna say the same thing

Hubbe
03-25-2003, 02:30 PM
So do corrupt admins who move threads so that they don't have to issue their friends warnings (while warning people they don't like), and threatening people with their admin powers of knowing their ip address then publicly stating their general area of residence.


You made a fresh account just to say that?

[/i]On regards to thread movings[/i]:
If a thread is heading in a certain civil direction and someone posts profanity etc, then said person gets punished. If a thread has gone past that level long before a mod or admin gets to it, it gets moved. Its often on a case to case basis, imple as that. I asume you are speaking in regards to the guy who was selling stuff he scammed someone off. Its perfectly understandable that people get pissed of with the guy, but you are being to quickly into jumping into conclusions as to who I like and dislike. Since you know me so well, please enlighten me as to who my friends are, and who arent?

On regards to the accusation of abuse of admin powers:
I said I could, I never did. And like the guy said, it doesnt matter for shit. Its an anon flame mule so no one will know who the guy is anyway. I have very little respect for people who create flame mules to post stuff they dont have the guts to put their own name under.

Hubbe
03-25-2003, 02:32 PM
and ezcodes suck ass too.

Dee Cee
03-25-2003, 02:36 PM
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Gamer1234
03-25-2003, 02:38 PM
"I said I could, I never did."

A threat is a threat.

"And like the guy said, it doesnt matter for shit. Its an anon flame mule so no one will know who the guy is anyway. I have very little respect for people who create flame mules to post stuff they dont have the guts to put their own name under."

Yeah, and your real name is Hubbe Stubbe right? lol. You're just as anon as anyone else on the internet. Guts indeed.

Taino
03-25-2003, 02:42 PM
You're just as anon as anyone else on the internet.

I am sure its possible to find out almost everyones RL name and adress with ease. If you think you are anon on the internet you are very wrong.

Hubbe
03-25-2003, 02:46 PM
"A threat is a threat."

So when saying:
"its not done, so stop being so paranoid"
and
"but you are just to paranoid.. People dont do that shit"

I really say that I will do it even if I, in the thread (as you can see in the above quotations), clearly stated that I nor anyone else wouldn't. IMO, I believe that it comes across as perfectly clear and that was only used as an example when discussing flame mules.

"You're just as anon as anyone else on the internet. Guts indeed."

This is an everquest board, for an everquest community. We deal with eachother in said community on a daily basis and I am, in said community known as Hubbe. Therefore, I identify myself on these boards as Hubbe as well. Within the community I am hardly anon, and my handle under my posts tell those that read them who I am ingame (which is the "RL" of this community in a sense). Do not comfuse Earth identification with Norrath identification.

Haloface
03-25-2003, 03:13 PM
Hubbe > Anon_random_flamer_drive_through_go_away101.

Hubbe
03-25-2003, 03:37 PM
god knows?..

ice cream and bacon?

Naeni Bast Ra
03-25-2003, 04:32 PM
*gathers the popcorn and watches the show*

I personally had an issue with Divinity and Unien destroying Angels of Fate which I was an officer of a long long time ago.

After I left, I hear she pushed all the founding members out and made the guild her own... then i guess it fell to shit and she made another guild.


Little hitler with nobody to follow her lead... hrm.. yeah sounds about right.

amidgit
03-25-2003, 05:18 PM
I find this thread lacking. From a score of 1 to 10. 10 being on the caliber of Gandien expressing his manlust for Zagio , 1 being a level 20 druid complaining about someone killing his firebeatles.

I rate it a 2. Thumbs down.

Dartaignon
03-25-2003, 05:24 PM
We need some lamer.net pictures in this thread.

Haloface
03-25-2003, 05:25 PM
You had Halo Input.
What could be better?

Carabella Valenteen
03-25-2003, 07:01 PM
I cried when you stole my firebeetles.

VTMole
03-25-2003, 10:31 PM
Sorry, NAG ers. I know I promised you porn, but I must confess that I am having trouble getting the straight story. One story is she got caught sending these to some woman's husband, but I also heard that she and Unien send these out to their friends. I do know Divinity put one of the “less interesting” ones on the forum on the RL pictures thread, so I know I have the right ones.

But since I AM an anonymous troll, I have to have solid evidence. These discriminating readers will settle for nothing less.

Here’s the deal. I am going on line right now and if you know a story on these photos, shoot me a tell. My message mule is “Themole.” I will be mostly AFK but I will check back, especially if you shoot me an address.

Mojozek
03-25-2003, 11:18 PM
the dumb stuff people bitcth about here....lol

Nagianakihma
03-25-2003, 11:41 PM
Omg...

You definitely are an ass, I feel sorry for the people of your guild. Talk about a traitor. I hope everyone that reads this thread remembers this, especially if you ever find out exactly who this person is. If he/she did it once, they will do it again.

The reason Angels of Fate was disolved had to do with the original owner of the guild name, Nae, and him/her whatever it was, being an asshole. You really should ask around about what actually unfolded before making assumptions. You know what they say to 'assume' does. Or do you?

Divinity and Unien and the rest of the guild leaders and members of VT are some of the finest people I have ever met. I'm sure if I have met this coward though, I didn't think much of him/her.

I cannot believe someone would stoop so low and go against their guild this way. That is just pathetic.

You are a pathetic piece of dung.

Nagianakihma
~Lurks in Shadows~

Igmoe
03-26-2003, 01:05 AM
Nagianakihma,

Since you seem to "know" wtf your talking about with comments about Angels of Fate and its history then you know with the exception of only the original guild leader I am the only player still playing EQ that was a member pre-Divinity, pre-Unien,pre-Naeni,pre anyone in VT ( the guild which is ex-AoF).

The original owner of the guild being an asshole? Wrong.

He and I may not have agreed on some topics, but to state he is an asshole is offbase.

Sometime when you have your head out of your ass, take the time to ask Divinity and Unien how they got into AoF to start with. Yes, I am the one to blame for that.

Early on they seemed like great folks and were fun to hang out with. As time went on strong armed tactics began to surface from them. The guild leader at the time ended up taking what was left of the folks in AoF, who still had some sense of what the guild charter stated and played by left and formed a new guild.

Anyway, I won't put everyone to sleep about all the history stuff etc. If you would like history lesson about AoF (VT's beginnings) send me a tell Nagianakihma.

Otherwise don't speak out against the leadership less be treated like so many I have seen in the past.

Enjoy the ride lemming.

Igmoe Icelannder
60 Warlord
Silent Chaos


Ohh P.S.: I have 2cp if you can even name the original GL of Angels of Fate Nagianakihma.

Sarke Aztik
03-26-2003, 02:47 AM
BUD aborsbed??? WTF???

Heehee they are together and the same old guild of kick ass people that are some of the finest and funnest people to play with. Wonderful guild and great people! I was one of the original 10 members that started the guild and Yes it is the most kickass name in EQ! If you ever get the chance to group with any of them do it! They rock and are very selfless people who are an absolute blast to play with. Do to a promise to a friend I am no longer in the guild "She started a guild she had a long time ago back up so I joined Cymbrogii with her and her husband" but still love to chat with BUD and if they didn't level so much faster than me would still be grouping with them!

Haloface
03-26-2003, 02:55 AM
That's just one too many guild abreviations. I feel dizzy.

Nagianakihma
03-26-2003, 03:54 AM
2cp is not worth my time, nor are you for that matter, but -

Let's put it this way, don't need the info. Don't even care what his/her name was/is. Not even talking about a GL or original GL. Talking about the OWNER of the guild name. The one that created the name to start with. Two totally different things.

Divinity made a guild of her own that SHE owned. As I stated before, Guild leader and Guild owner are two totally different things. You can be a guild leader and not OWN the name of the guild because you weren't the original creator of that name.

What would keep the original owner of the guild name from coming in after being gone for, forever, and dissolving it himself on a whim? What keeps him from taking credit where it was NOT due? What keeps him from bragging on the Guild being what it is "today" because of him? (which btw is what was going on from what my different sources say) Not a dang thing..........unless the current leader dissolves that guild and makes their own. Now, the original owner of the guild name can do whatever the crap he wants to do with it. Let him brag now on an 'empty' guild.

And yes Igmoe, I remember you from before. Your name suits you well, as it always has.

*tosses him a copper* Call someone who cares about the history of AoF. I'm talking about the present and the good people of VT. (excepting the coward of VT who started this original thread)

Nagianakihma
~Lurks in Shadows~

Igmoe
03-26-2003, 05:10 AM
The reason Angels of Fate was disolved had to do with the original owner of the guild name, Nae, and him/her whatever it was, being an asshole.

Call someone who cares about the history of AoF. I'm talking about the present and the good people of VT.


Ok... so is it AoF or VT you speak of? Make up your mind before you change lanes.

What keeps him from bragging on the Guild being what it is "today" because of him? (which btw is what was going on from what my different sources say)


Put away the magic 8-ball. "Sources say no."
I REALLY doubt he pays any attention to VT's current status. I must admit this one made me chuckle.


And yes Igmoe, I remember you from before. Your name suits you well, as it always has.


Thanks! Other than the problems I have had in the past with guild members being harrassed in the guild I ran after leaving AoF (ones that didn't even know who AoF was) I am happy with the name I made.
At least I use my actual in-game name in posts.

I am sure VT has many good people in it. Just because Hitler was the leader of Germany, does not make all people of Germany bad people.


Better hurry up lemming, the Pied Piper has left for Chardok you don't want to be late.


Igmoe Icelannder
60 Warlord
Silent Chaos

Simondavid
03-26-2003, 06:46 AM
Could we please get back to the porn, and in-guild fighting please.....my popcorn is getting cold.

Binuvin
03-26-2003, 08:56 AM
Ack! No pr0n! I'll get arrested over here!!! :eek

VTMole
03-26-2003, 02:40 PM
CAUTION_NOT WORK SAFE
Do not open the first link at work.

Divinity and Unien are some of the finest people in EQ. Did someone actually say that? LMAO.

I guess we don’t share a definition of “fine.”

Depending on which story you believe, she posted these on a website years ago, or she sent these out to a married man, whose wife found them and mailed them to people in the guild, or she sends these to favored guildies with her husband’s blessing. My feeling are so hurt, Div. How come I never got any?

Two things are undeniable.
This is her, because she put one of the group pics on the Guild forum.
She put hours into creating these Web-ready pictures. And I don’t think it was for her family Christmas album.

EDIT: Links removed


I’m sure everyone is thinking the same thing.

WTF is it with that goddess crap?

Gotta run, NAG’ers. But I have a great post for you tomorrow. A genuine award-winning hate mail written by Div. Apparently there was a contest a few months ago among former AOF/VT guildies where they voted for their favorite line in this piece of filth, but I never heard the winner, so a forum wide contest might be the ticket.

Prezto
03-26-2003, 03:01 PM
Yeah. Jesus I want to see NAKED, SPREAD EAGLE, KS'd Fire Beetles!! At work even.

Taino
03-26-2003, 03:22 PM
Little hitler with nobody to follow her lead... hrm.. yeah sounds about right.
Yeah, I am happy that I am a little Hittler with at least having some idiots follow me! HA!

AoF, BUD, blabla this and that...
Why can't I get rid of the feeling that all those 394785 different Guilds are actually not more then like 30 people?
This guild changed name, they absorbed them, then they kicked em, then that changed name, then they merged again... /yawn

And I am wondering why I keep hearing from new guilds.
They're all the same!!!1!!!11!!!

Baltyn
03-26-2003, 03:37 PM
hehe you have a point there Tain...boogles the mind, can you imagine all the guilds out there are nothing but say alts from the mid and upper tier guilds....on man now my head is hurting

Carabella Valenteen
03-26-2003, 03:48 PM
I still wanna see the pics though. I am curious!

ThePerfectFlaw
03-26-2003, 03:55 PM
This is like the CB-VV-EW triangle hate only this time involving newbie guilds!

Hubbe
03-26-2003, 04:18 PM
Regardless of your relationship with people of VT, you will not post dodgy pictures of people without their consent.

If you do, you shall face ebil punishment. Understood?

Haloface
03-26-2003, 04:23 PM
Your authority makes me very, very randy, Hubbe.

Naeni Bast Ra
03-26-2003, 04:34 PM
My only point of posting about AoF wasn't to talk about who was absorbed into what, just that in MY personal experience she is a slimeball powerhungry nut.

So back to the original topic.... *eats popcorn and waits for more*

ThePerfectFlaw
03-26-2003, 04:39 PM
Damnit Hubbe, if it was porn and it was of a hot chick, I demand you un-edit that post.

Hubbe
03-26-2003, 05:07 PM
I want people to have some respect for the personal space and integrity of said space.

Simondavid
03-26-2003, 05:09 PM
Any person posting any pics or videos on the internet..in a "private" guild board or not pretty much consents to having their pic sent to everyone including their grandmother.

Nagianakihma
03-26-2003, 10:17 PM
I'll not bother any further with this thread as I see it goes way over your head Igmoe and you cannot follow the topic of the conversation.

Nagianakihma
~Lurks in Shadows~

Nagianakihma
03-26-2003, 10:23 PM
My only point of posting about AoF wasn't to talk about who was absorbed into what, just that in MY personal experience she is a slimeball powerhungry nut.

And as usual Naeni, you have no clue as to what you speak of.

Nagianakihma
~Lurks in Shadows~

Igmoe
03-26-2003, 10:32 PM
Ta-ta lemming.



Igmoe Icelannder
60 Warlord
Silent Chaos

Raven Lunatic VT
03-27-2003, 12:33 AM
Not that anyone outside of VT needs to know our business, but since a few of you seem sooooo entralled by what we're doing, I'll take the time to register a name here and give you some straight info.

Violent Tendencies used to be grouped under the guild name Angels of Fate. Bama/Bitty is the owner of that AoF name. He started the guild and its his to do whats fit.

Bitty decided to leave the guild he started to persue other things. At which point the leadership tag was passed to one of his freinds, Vahlen. Well Vahlen left the game for a time and gave the tag to Divinity, whos had it ever since.

People come and go from a guild for whatever reason. Most leave on good terms and reguardless of what happens, we wish them well. A few duds that have somehow ended up here have been pushed out, that much is true. Were a much better guild with them gone. =) But let me jump back for a minute here..... When you start a guild, no matter who you transfer the leadership to, YOU still own the name. You have the option, even if you dont have the tag, to disband the guild at any time or get the leadership tag back from a GM. We decided as a current guild, that even though we enjoyed the AoF name, it was time to keep our guild secure by forming our own new guild with a creator whos not going to be leaving. Hence, the name change and a new beginning.

Not that any of this is a big secret, but there seems to be some confusion as to what the truth is here.

I also so a few past AoF/VT members that have posted here with their bitter little snipes. lol I have some cool advice for you. You decided to move on from our family. So do just that. Move on! lol I'm sure you have much better more important things to do than worry about what ole VT is doing.....

IceeLady
03-27-2003, 12:35 AM
I am guessing that the letter you are referring to is the one Divinity wrote to me at the time I resigned from VT, and I am asking you to please not publish that letter on this forum.

I admit I have shared it with several people, but only people who knew me and the other players involved. You print it here, where most people don’t know me, and someone might actually believe some of the rants. To have someone tell lies with that amount of vehemence is unnerving. I know, because I spent several days convinced that a RL friend was hacking into my computer, based solely upon allegations in that letter. I even confronted him. *shudder.*

And yes. We did have a “Vote for Your Favorite Part of Div’s Hate Mail” contest, which was probably cruel. But in the end there were only about 8 people who participated before we lost interest. I am surprised that there are still copies around.

Continuing with these attacks on these people and VT serves no good. No one is going to change their behavior. You need to get out of there and move on. I guarantee you will be much happier almost anywhere else.

~~NaanciIcemiind~~

Binuvin
03-27-2003, 03:27 AM
GiBB0rz me phat pr0n plz!!!!

Come on, I bet Shewdogg is in there too :evil

VTMole
03-27-2003, 06:31 AM
Ahhh Naan. Just seeing your name makes it HARD.......to say no. (see Hubbe, I'm behaving) But I'm afraid since the short man cut off the links to Div's dirty pictures, my readership has dropped off. So I’m forced to post the "evil letter." It’s just too damn funny to keep it to ourselves. How about if I cut out all the personal stuff like where she lists the corporation you occasionally posted from, and cut out the words "fuck" and "bitch." Wait! there isn't anything left!

Relax. No one is going to believe one word in that letter. Speaking of which, I was surprised to learn you were stalking Maxx. What do I have to do to get you to stalk me? If I make a monk and spend about $1000 in PA on equipment, will you stalk me too? Please?

J/K Darlin. I have seen your RL picture. MAYBE you don’t have stalk men too often. Did you ever realize how pissed off Div was that you got so much more attention for a snapshot than she got with her doctored photos. She never missed a chance to put you down after that.

Offer: Let me post your Pic here. I downloaded a copy off the AoF forum, just like every other male in the guild. If you give me permission, and tell us the winners of the contest, I won’t have to publish the Evil letter.

You can't pass up a deal like this.

Hubbe
03-27-2003, 10:18 AM
You wont post the pictures anyway.
Im telling you No.

Carabella Valenteen
03-27-2003, 12:55 PM
Woooot Hubbe!

Assling Ninja STRIKE!

Divinity Reigns
03-27-2003, 01:56 PM
And?
Your ignorance is noted.

Let me straighten a few things out for you.

-We have never had any recruitment phase. Numbers have never been an issue with us.
-Blessed Union of Drunkards are alive and well and I'm sure doing fine. And yes, they have a great name.
-If you leave the guild, your guild forum access gets removed. That's just sense.
-Chardok is an open raid every other week that Unien runs to help others get their royal epic pieces.
-No, it would not have been okay for me to post the conversation in the members area because it wasn't MY conversation.
-Unien is a grown man. He does what he wants.

As for the rest of your non-sense. If a picture of my stomach is what you consider porn - you really need to get out more. Here's a hint: porn usually consisists of someone with their clothes *off*. Nice try trying to make it out to be something that it's not though.

As for my "hate" mail - this did make me laugh. You're talking about how personal conversation posting sucks and in the same breath, talking about posting one from your little friend naancii. You're a genius. Seriously.

The fact that a conversation from 7 months ago is still a hot topic is both trite and amusing. And by the way naancii, it doesn't make you cruel - it makes you tragically boring.

In any event, I'll make it easy for you VTMole and tell you the same thing I told naancii at the time her "anon" email showed up telling me to dissolve VT with the same IP she used for posting on our guild forum. Fuck you - and Fuck off.

ViBeSJoKeR - No, not a redhead. Brunette.
Simondavid - The picture the poster is talking about isn't on the net.
Denoine - it's good to see our mutual love for each other is alive and well.
Hubbe Stubbe - Thank you.

Binuvin
03-27-2003, 06:21 PM
Never!....EVER! Use ass and strike in the same sentence when a bard is around :lol

HurtingHeart
03-28-2003, 04:30 AM
Fortunately Hubbe banned that scumbag VTMole for harassing the ladies. Unfortunately, VT asked me to take over the cause for him, and since he is my friend, I had to accept. I won't be publishing any pictures, however. I am behaving.

He wanted me to refresh Divinity’s memory about a few things. He sent me a copy of the infamous HATE MAIL, so I could quote a few things.

Remember these statements, Div? I am sure that several other people can refresh your memory if you have forgotten.

Threaten to put my picture on the Ayonae Ro bulletin board? Some threat... pitiful. Those images are from a web site, moron.They're already on the web. Do it though, and I guarantee the post will be removed and you'll be banned from the board. I already talked to someone at the Ayonae Ro board about the possibility, they're able to trace IPs too, by the way.
And after more ranting.
Keep in mind, I have nothing to hide. I would think nothing of posting the images I sent to Maxx on my forum.

Wonder why this thread is named Hypocritical Tendencies?

Div, you will never post them. See even you probably realize that making colorized and retouched web-ready montages of your face and body parts and writing “Goddess” across the bottom is pretty frickin weird. Are you not getting enough attention at home?

And,finally, your explanation about why you sent out those pictures to a friend of your husband. Specifically the second image, featuring only your lower abdomen and pelvis, where you are wearing only a red lacey thong. The one that isn't porn because you are dressed....in a thong.

And you know the ironic thing, is that image was over a conversation we had about fitness and climbing...

ROTFLMAO.

I’m off to the web to find some “Fitness and Climbing “ sites.

ThePerfectFlaw
03-28-2003, 04:30 AM
Would prefer ass and pound?

Divinity Reigns
03-28-2003, 05:05 AM
That's a beautiful rendition. Seriously, I love how other people can refresh my memory when they weren't even there.

Yet another one trying to twist words to make them come out sounding like they have a point. I could list a bunch of stuff that you don't even have right, starting with those weren't to my "husband's" friend. I'm not married. And incidentially, I don't have to justify why I do anything to you - or anyone else for that matter.

Here's the picture you're so obsessed with.
violent-tendencies.com/rvs4.jpg (http://violent-tendencies.com/rvs4.jpg)
Now, you can fuck off, too.

Divinity Reigns
03-28-2003, 05:17 AM
And it speaks volumes of you that you're friends with someone that was banned for harassing people on the board. And it also speaks volumes of you that you're trying to quote an email from 7 months ago.

You're quite charming.

Sanchek
03-28-2003, 05:49 AM
Here's the picture you're so obsessed with.
violent-tendencies.com/rvs4.jpg

Someone thought that was porn? Have they been living with the Amish or something?

Divinity Reigns
03-28-2003, 05:55 AM
You know the best part of this... you just confirmed, in no uncertain terms, that it was naancii that wrote me that *anon* email.

Something didn't sound right about it after I read it, so I had to go back into my mail program and check. And sure enough...

I never wrote those words to naancii directly, but rather to *someone* that demanded that I dissolve my guild - sent from a hotmail account.

I knew it was her all along, but this is the first time she's ever admitted it. Thank you so much.

HurtingHeart
03-28-2003, 06:07 AM
Didn't you read what the lady wrote? It isn't porn. It's "climbing and fitness."

Where is the Goddess pic, Div? That really captures your true "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!" spirit.

Hubbe, now that she published some of the photos that he was banned for publishing, that were on the web anyhow, can VTMole have his access back. Or does she still need her virtue protected?

Divinity Reigns
03-28-2003, 06:17 AM
*lol* - you really are an idiot. And I'm sure naancii is going to thank you too.

And the point was, that it's not up to you or anyone else to post my picture - or anyone elses for that matter. Maybe I'll post my headshot, maybe I won't. That's certainly not up to you though.

And no, that image was *not* up on the web. I had to upload it before I posted. And far as I know, he wasn't banned from anything having to do with me - if he was, I missed it.

You're talking about the name Goddess... my freakin' name is Divinity in game. Get off the crack - no one cares.

But sincerely, thank you for tying up that loose end for me. No matter what you say, you can't divert the fact that you helped clear up the matter.

*laughing* - Good job. I'm officially done with you now.

Raven Lunatic VT
03-28-2003, 06:23 AM
lol

Nice job there naancii. Anon email is never truely anon. lol Especially when you just proved where it came from.

/em laughs his ass off all the way out the door....

Hubbe
03-28-2003, 10:01 AM
Erm.. VTmole isnt nor was ever banned.

HurtingHeart
03-28-2003, 02:40 PM
Now I’m confused. You’re calling Naancii a bitch and a whore thru this whole email and yet you wrote it to someone else?

I have the whole thing here, and it looks like Div sent it to someone named John Cooke at Cookeboy116@hotmail.com, on November 11, and then it looks like Naancii got it from someone named A. Melon on November 16.

A.Melon writes:

I confronted Div directly, and here is what she wrote back. She has a screw
loose and obviously has it in for you. I think she has it in for every other
woman in the game. I would just ignore her threats. It is almost impossible to
hack into an email account. Looks like your friend Maxx is the biggest liar of
all.

You made a good decision in leaving. –JanelleAnd then the Hatemail is attached.

How did it get from Cookeboy116 to A.Melon?

Are there two of these wonderful hatemails? Someone give them to me. Hail me again on my mule, Themole. I need the material.


Hubbe—you may want to check on VTMole’s access. He says he is still getting a banned message.

Div—pick a story, for you it doesn’t necessarily have to be true. Just pick one.

From HateMail #1

Those images are from a web site, moron.They're already on the web.

From yesterday
And no, that image was *not* up on the web.

Where is the Hatemail from 7 months ago? This is from November 11. What time zone are you in?

Carabella Valenteen
03-28-2003, 02:57 PM
Here's a thought --

Why don't you take this to a private forum, Hurting? I mean, really. You are not helping your case any, and it doesn't seem that she is being affected by your attempts at slandering.

I at first found this rather amusing to read, but in looking at it now, I seriously think this is sounding like harassment and stalking.

I am feeling just a little bit uncomfortable with the tone this whole situation is taking. It sounds to me like a jilted lover trying to hurt someone back.

What she did with pictures, with emails, with whatever, was her business and the person(s) she was involved with. Why are you making this YOUR personal vendetta? We don't need to hear about this very intimate situation, do we?

I truly am puzzled as to your need to do this to another person.

Lotsa crazy people out there, it seems.

HurtingHeart
03-28-2003, 02:58 PM
NM. I just figured it out. This came to Naancii thru an anonymous remailer program.

Div, if John Cooke uses Anon Remailer programs, you can't use the IP addresses. I would think a big web expert like you would know that.

Hubbe
03-28-2003, 03:26 PM
Checked again.. He is not banned.. Does it matter?

You are VTmole anyway.

HurtingHeart
03-28-2003, 04:19 PM
Cara, she controlls the forum, so there is no place to discuss this. Look at what she did to BUD.
She deletes whole threads if she doesn't like them. I have to use this board. She can't control it.

Anyhow, I smelled another Div contradiction, so I looked at a few things.

On Novenmber 11:
The above was written after I had your IP traced from hotmail. You stupid,stupid girl. I know full well that it's you, Naancii

Yesterday
same thing I told naancii at the time her "anon" email showed up telling me to dissolve VT with the same IP she used for posting on our guild forum. Fuck you - and Fuck off.

today
You know the best part of this... you just confirmed, in no uncertain terms, that it was naancii that wrote me that *anon* email.

I know I am repeating myself, but pick a story. Either you matched the IP address to the forum, or you traced it.

And if you did actually do those things, why did you need yesterday’s quotes to finally realize it? I would have thought the IP address matching would have been enough proof for anyone. Unless you are making these things up.

Where is the evidence? I hang you with your quotes. You sling mud.

Divinity Reigns
03-28-2003, 05:14 PM
Yes, I control the VT forum because... uh...I'm the guild leader - and I paid for the forum software and it sits on a server I own. You don't like it? Truly, ask me if I care about your opinion on it.

I'm going to try to use small words since you apparently aren't getting it.... the easiest way to route out a rat, is to plant a seed. I purposely said what I said in response to the *anon* email just to see where my words would turn up....and here you are.

Absolutely. The IPs matched. There's nothing like a written confession though - so again, thank you.

You can back track all you want now and try to turn this isn't something it's not to try to distract from what you've done, but it won't work. It's simply too late for that. Aside from that, it's beyond me why you think I have to answer to you at all.

I could have kissed Hubbe when I read that VTMole was *not* banned from this forum. When I first read it, I thought you must have meant from this forum as well - and then I put it together that you must really be talking about my guild forum. As luck would have it, I banned someone from our guild forum for the first time last night - on a hunch. And only one person. Our forum is not an ezboard forum - registrations here won't work over there. And obviously you can get into here still....

You don't hang me with my own quotes. You hang yourself.

And to find out that you're really VTMole, too - well, that was just icing on the cake.

ThePerfectFlaw
03-28-2003, 05:45 PM
the easiest way to route out a rat, is to plant a seed.

That has got to be some of the most fucked up logic I've ever seen.

Last time we had a rat problem we got a few snakes. That got rid of the problem in a jiffy. Don't see how planting seeds would get rid of rats.

Oh wait, it was a metaphor.

nm, carryon.

IceeLady
03-28-2003, 07:13 PM
Forget it, HH/VTMole. Don’t even try to argue.

Divinity truly believes that I hacked into Maxx’s email, stole her pics, and hacked into his EQ accounts for good measure. On top of that, I sent an anonymous letter from my home computer, because despite being this expert hacker, I’m completely unaware that you can trace IP addresses. My motives were/are I was stalking Maxx, and jealous of her. The hatemail outlines my crimes, motives, and her proof. She has sent me 4 letters on top of this hatemail, full of “proof” that I did all these things. She has found proof all over the place. She is still finding proof today.

Divinity desperately needs to believe this illogical story because if she doesn’t, she will have to accept the far more plausible one. That she sent her pictures to a man who then used them to play games with other women. You see, even though they are not porn, (Amish porn—I love it) the pics are somewhat "intimate." And to have that intimacy betrayed is more than her ego can take. It might mean that she isn’t the Queen Bee with all men as her loyal, admiring minions.

So she will continue to rant, find evidence, make long intricate posts full of "proof." I could logically counter this latest piece of evidence, and post the letter where I told her I had been forwarded this particular hatemail. But why bother?

I just ignore it, and most other people aren’t interested. Stop arguing with her, please, at least on my behalf.


~~~NaanciIcemiind~~~
~~Oracle-Ayonae Ro~~

Divinity Reigns
03-28-2003, 07:47 PM
blahblahblah....noisenoisenoise....

Oh good - we're finally in agreement that no one cares. Now maybe you can find something else to concentrate on after all these months - and I can go back to not considering you at all, like I have been until this was posted.

Carine Sureal
03-29-2003, 01:51 AM
*blinks*

Minions? You have minions Divinity? WHERE??!! WHO??!!

Heeeyyyy...wait a second...you can't have John!!

:P

Carine

"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

HurtingHeart
03-29-2003, 05:09 PM
And Carine crawls out. You, actually, are a minion. Minions don’t have to be men, they just have to be adoring followers.

You know, Carine, with that 270K plat you bought on ************** right before you came back from Legends, you could probably buy some of your own minions. (One of your friends sent a picture (not a link) of the 2 auctions, which I can put here if you want to question my facts.)

I’m not sure, but is $900 a good price for 270K pp? Is this game worth $900?

And Div, who did you ban? Because if you banned someone, you caught the wrong “snake.” Maybe you planted the wrong seed. Probably you chose someone who wasn’t flattering you enough, and decided they were guilty. If you think it and say it, it must be true.

Naancii had your ticket. I think I remember hearing that she is a psychologist, so maybe you should take the free help. I am actually starting to hate you less and think maybe you can’t help lying.

Well, I’ll try to see you in PON today. Like you said in your post earlier today, it does sound like a lot of fun. BTW, you replied to that KS’ing incident pretty well. Having you monitor the forum 24/7 does have it advantages. It’s just sort of pitiful for you.

Divinity Reigns
03-29-2003, 06:31 PM
You're too stupid to know when you should be embarassed, aren't you? Not to mention too much of a weasle to even say who you really are.

What's pitiful is that you banked everything you had on coming in here and making this big controversy over some picture that you thought you could use as some blackmail material. I'm certain you never expected me to post it and tell you to fuck off. Fatal error, you thought it was your best weapon.

Your little psycho friend thought she could go on indefinitately pulling people aside and filling their heads. You should have stuck to that plan instead of dragging it here. And yes, I've heard all about it - naancii's friends aren't always so much, naancii's "friends".

Now, neither of you have any ammunition - since naancii was hanging on with both fists to that picture. Maybe you don't realize it, but this makes you both (or maybe you're also naancii too - VTMole) look like asses. Not porn, not intimate, not your business. And the fact is, naancii can't be trusted - and neither can you.

The funniest part of all of this? Ms. high and mighty over there is the biggest hypocrite of all. Don't talk to me about minions when you're here trolling the board for some nutjob and her nutjob crusade. Ironically, I haven't talked with people about naancii since the end of last year after all this ridiculous shit. Maybe I'll start though - or maybe you and she will crawl back under your rock and go away. I guess it's really up to the two of you. Cause I'll tell you this, I'm not going anywhere. And the last thing you or anyone else can do, is intimidate me. You're not qualified.

Kalat123
03-29-2003, 10:32 PM
Wanna have sex?

Carabella Valenteen
03-29-2003, 10:35 PM
ROFL!

Kalat123
03-30-2003, 12:21 AM
So wheres the fucking porn already?

I was told to come here and I could get free pics, WTF i gotta go back to jerking off to vanity fair?

Carine Sureal
03-30-2003, 01:51 AM
*wonders what her buying platinum on PA has to do with all this*

Yep...was well worth the money to John and I, especially since he thought he was going to have to move his monk here from Erollisi and lose everything on him. As it worked out, he didn't have to do that...plus we were able to re-equip the cleric my friend gave me because she DID lose everything that was on her.

I hope you bringing this all back up again was worth it to you. I hope that somehow you are getting some small piece of satisfaction from all this...although I do not see how. It's done and over with and water under the bridge now. I don't consider myself a 'minion' of Divinity. I consider myself her friend...someone that I talk to every now and then on the phone. As a matter of fact, I considered myself everyone's friend in the guild...too bad you can't see beyond your hate and animosity to know that our guild has a good group of people in it. Some of the best that I've met since coming to this game over 3 years ago.

How many times have you seen me drop whatever it was that I was doing to grab my cleric and give someone a 96% rez? How many times...if any...did I give you a rez or ported you? Maybe none...maybe a dozen? Who knows since you seem to want to keep this anonymous game of yours going? Most of the people in our guild was like that...a lot of times everyone would drop whatever they were doing to go help someone on something that just spawned...etc.

It's people like you who ruin the game for everyone else. It is truly sad.

Carine

"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

Divinity Reigns
03-30-2003, 02:21 AM
*laughing right out loud*
Carine - you know, it's all okay now.
Problem solved.

What naancii didn't realize is that since she decided to quote me word for word on the post I answered of Kam where I said, "that does sound like fun" - it was really easy to check the IP from everyone that viewed that particular post and lo and behold, there's Maxx's name as viewing the post - under naancii's IP.

She's checked that post 55 times and Maxx actually hasn't looked at the post at all. God, they're not even in the same time zone...
*just cracking up*

So, HurtingHeart=VTMole=naancii
She's her own freakin' worst enemy.
Not to mention "HurtingHeart" was the name of the woman she claimed contacted her about my picture.

Maxx is dense for using his birthday as his password all the freakin' time, but it's definitely her. It was the only password he didn't change from way back in October/November/wheneverthehell. I can pretty much guarantee that he'll never use his birthday as a password anywhere ever again...

So no, Carine - this isn't about you - you were just a convienent target at the moment. I'm sorry she dragged you into this.

*kisses Kalat123*
*kissed Hubbe*
*thanks Carabella*
*goes and has a wonderful night after beating maxx*

Divinity Reigns
03-30-2003, 02:23 AM
And thank you, ViBeSJoKeR

Simondavid
03-30-2003, 05:28 AM
psst....whats maxx's birthday? =)

Carine Sureal
03-30-2003, 07:44 AM
*quote*

psst....whats maxx's birthday? =)


*swats Simondavid* ;)

Carine

"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

ThePerfectFlaw
03-30-2003, 09:37 AM
Another board I frequent has a 'real life naked picture thread.'

Good stuffs.

Alfax
03-30-2003, 10:19 AM
Another board I frequent has a 'real life naked picture thread.'

Which one would that be

LOL
:rollin

Carabella Valenteen
03-30-2003, 01:49 PM
Ohh! I am going to go post there right now!

ThePerfectFlaw
03-30-2003, 02:05 PM
Like I want you savages going there and seeing me naked. pfft.

Bitty Grave Lord
03-31-2003, 04:37 AM
Just to set the record straight....

1.) I started AoF.
2.) Divinity swiped the leader tag without permission from the current leader at the time while he was out of the country.
3.) Divinity refused to give the tag back when asked about it.
4.) ALL the founders had officer alts remaining in the guild (Divinity couldn't stand that) and we did not like the things that were becoming associated with the AoF name.
5.) Divinity disbanded the guild and once disbanded I regained possession of the stolen leader tag so that further instances of tarnishing AoF would not happen.
6.) Divinity starts VT (grats, its about time)

I do not think Divinity is a bad person, she just likes to be in charge and at times has acted based upon some bad information (/point Raven). I used to enjoy talking to her. If you have no problem with the way she runs her guild then I am sure it is right for you. If you have issue with the way she runs it then leave.

All in all, things are best now that she has a guild that is 100% her own and can run it anyway she wants.

Bitty Aisai

Kayin of Adenvault
03-31-2003, 04:55 AM
http://giapet.net/bleh/heyguys.jpg

HurtingHeart
03-31-2003, 06:03 AM
Brilliant story, Div. You didn’t screw over BUD, you didn’t deguild the wrong guy, and you didn’t bamboozle your BF. It was all a conspiracy. And this even justifies your hate mail. And you solved it all by using your super webmaster powers. What a happy ending!

Oh, there are a few minor problems with your story, like I use AOL so I have a totally different IP address every time I log in. And I don’t accept cookies. And I don’t know maxx’s birthday. The details are sort of tricky on this one, so I want you write a nice long answer, and throw some “Fuck you’s” and “Fuck Off’s” so we know you are telling the truth.

But I am damn serious about one thing. How do you know everyone’s password? You have your own server and administer your own website, so there aren’t any safeguards for people like there are when a site is run thru EZBoard. You already admit to tracking lots more data on the site than most Guildmaster’s would ever bother with. I have suspected for a while that you can just basically look up people’s passwords. And if someone were to use the same one for your forum that they use for other applications, like their EMAIL account, you could get right in there, couldn’t you?

And we all know by now that several people have found you to be less than totally honest.

In fact, "Power hungry bitch" is the term that keeps popping up. What is more powerful than screwing with people's passwords?

ThePerfectFlaw
03-31-2003, 07:51 AM
Screwing with their wives? That would be a bit more powerful.

Divinity Reigns
03-31-2003, 11:25 AM
Tag was never stolen, Vahlen passed it on or else I never would have had it. Was never asked to give it up. If you've been told that, that's false. Yes, disliked people being officers in the guild that weren't even active and their mains moved on to other guilds. The owner of a guild can take back the guild leadership tag at any time - was the entire reason we started VT. If you wanted it back, there would have been nothing anyone would have been able to do. No debate.

Neither here nor there - but you're right, if you don't like how a guild is run, you should get out and stop wasting your on line time. I had enjoyed our talks in the past as well. You were great when I got the tag and I appreciated the support. It's too bad it turned out this way.

Thanks for the grats - same back at you. Good luck with the AoF tag. If you decide to impliment it again, I hope it works out for you.

HurtingHeart
There is no debate here either. There's no question. 100% positive naancii was using maxx's name and password to access the forum. Problem solved. Game over. End of story.

Bitty Grave Lord
03-31-2003, 11:47 PM
I do not agree with your versions of the facts as you do not agree with mine. However, it doesn't make much difference now. AoF is retired permanently.

Send me a tell sometime, I would like to talk. :D

Bitty Aisai

IceeLady
04-01-2003, 02:08 AM
After reading this thread, I doubt there is a person in the world who would question your word, divinity.

~~~NaanciIcemiind~~~

sexykamzak
04-02-2003, 01:18 AM
OMFG, wuts up with all the drama, come on people, no one cares about this stupid bs, lets all grow up and go play eq.......Or better yet, lets all get naked and let daddy kamzak rock your world. thats anohter thing, why the drama against div and unien, Divinity and unien both are some of the coolest people i have ever met, i would do anything to help them out. if you have a problem with them take care of it,,,,,not in a public forum, how immature. "teacher teacher johny wont let me play in the sandbox" Well little johny, deal with it yourself, daddy kamzak is rocking mommy's world right now so leave him alone :) :hat


Peace out and see you in game :)
Kamzak Elf'Chef
Wanton Sex god of all things immoral, wet slimmy, and things that go "bum chicka wow wow in the night"

Morbipoo
04-02-2003, 03:20 AM
Ok what is up with all the poo flinging going on around this freaking board. First time here and I swear I feel like I walked into a monkey cage on burrito day. Shit flying left and right, one turd damn near grazed my shoulder. Anyways, I think I need to go out and get my a printer cartridge refill because this would make for some excellent bathroom reading material. Very amusing. Like sands through the hourglass, these are the Days of our Norrathian lives. Can't we all just climb into a hottub and make sweet passionate love? :b . We need to stop going off at each other and get off with each other instead. If we would all take the time to spoon every now and then there would be no hate in this world. Please...do it for the children.

SaPPeR
04-02-2003, 03:57 AM
The Kam and Morb that we all know and love ROFL

As for the drama? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :hat

Morbipoo
04-02-2003, 04:16 AM
Wait a minute. are we forgetting the reason why we areall here? Where's the fucking porn? I demand to see females performing degrading acts for nothing but the entertainment of men. That's what's made this country great. Oooh...Country...Kinda sounds like Cunt tree. I'd have two or three of them. Would sure as hell raise the observance rate of arborday.

BTW... I am a minion like a mofo. You see tha abs on Div? Damn. You could scrub the rust off the door panels of a pinto on those babies. Abs like that deserve some minions. I'm guessing 8 minute abs...altho Soloflex might also be responsible. I bet there's some buns of steel just around the corner too. We need a rear shot I think. Hel...Put her up on one of those Car displays, the ones that spin around so you can see all angles. Oh yeah... I need to go now I think.

Morbis Shadowstalkyr
60 Necromancer/Sex Toy (Now with Riboflavin!)

HurtingHeart
04-02-2003, 04:31 AM
Kam and Morb are right. I promise that this will be my very last post, Div. You will be on your best behavior for a while, as you try to repair the damage, so there won’t be anything to expose.

And I wanted to give you a compliment. I knew it was going to be a challenge for you to let the guild know about your clever detective work, without bringing a lot of attention to the less “flattering” portions of the story. You struck a nice balance. You strove for “brilliant leader”, as opposed to “crazed bitch” and it was successful. I am surprised about sending them here, but I don't think you read the reactions the same way I did.

And, I might add, we need to be reminded about password security, when there are nasty hackers out there, threatening your identity.

I finally accept that you REALLY believe your story. Being where I am, I know a lot of the facts, like where I am, and who wrote what to who. And you just basically blew right by them if you didn’t like them, so I know nothing will change in the long run. But there are a lot of good folks in VT that don’t need to be drug down, so I am done.

Morbipoo
04-02-2003, 04:47 AM
Just for the record. I still think Div is a crazed bitch. That's what I love about her tho. Bitches are cool

Morbipoo
04-02-2003, 05:03 AM
Heh heh..Seriously tho Divinity and Unien are two of the coolest people I know on EQ. Since I've met them they've done nothing but help me out no matter what they were doing. I've seen them do nothing but the same for others as well. I don't realy see how there are people that can speak badly about Div and U. As for this whole thing. I think all parties involved should let it go. Well...after we get the porn anyway...then let it go.

Kalat123
04-02-2003, 06:56 AM
So...who wants to knock some boots?

Ubfubar
04-02-2003, 07:48 AM
bah typical chicks..get all lathered up and then the curtain closes and u gotta stick another quarter in

when bored housewives go baaaaad!

:(

Orik of Ayonae Ro
04-02-2003, 11:07 AM
You will be on your best behavior for a while, as you try to repair the damage, so there won’t be anything to expose.

Did I miss something? From everything I've read here, there was no damage done to Divinity, the only damage I see is to your credibility. When Hubbe said that You and VTMole were the same person, while you tried to play it out that you were getting your information from the "banned" VTMolt, it made anything you said from then on biased towards the bullshit end of the scale.

Carine Sureal
04-02-2003, 11:13 AM
Yay Orik!

You go guy...;)

Carine

"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

IceeLady
04-03-2003, 03:23 AM
Well, he is obviously still getting access to your forum, so that sort of shoots your "Naancii hacked into Maxx's password" story. Or have I hacked into someone else's account?

You have spent several days attacking me. I am still surprised, because I have never attacked you. Fact is, I have never thought about you much at all.

But even I have lost patience with this constant stream of hateful accusations. You have nothing to back them up except "your word" about your forum IP log, which can never be verified, because you can so easily alter it. Your accuser has at least provided written and pictorial evidence for his accusations.

Stop saying and writing my name, in this or any other forum, until you have proof.

Now go away. I will not respond to your delusional, attention-seeking behavior any further.

Unien
04-03-2003, 03:43 AM
Naanci,
You're denying that you accessed Max's account, from work, from the very same IP you used when you were a member...That's rich...

You never thought much about us? That **was** you passing out emails and photos to people and calling for a "vote" from ex-members, right? That was you approaching current members with your same diatribe, correct? But you didn't think much about us...Perhaps you should rephrase and say "You didn't think much at all."

The accuser provided written proof only of what you gave them from our private forums, and nothing since you've been banned, and the hacked account removed.

Pictoral evidence of what? What exactly are you trying to say? That the picture constitutes a porn ring? You, Naanci, are quite delusional.

Maybe you won't respond to her, but since I was the accused in this post, and I was the one that tracked you down, you want to take me on Naanci?

And here's a hint about security Hurting Heart...Don't use birthdays, names, or your work phone numbers as your passwords, not a smart move.


-U

Divinity Reigns
04-03-2003, 04:02 AM
If you didn't start anything, there wouldn't have been anything. You can go around and around all you want, but it doesn't make you any less guilty.

You're a classless act.

And damn straight, I've put up with your garbage for far too long, letting it slide. I'm done with that. You continue this non-sense and I assure you it'll never end. I've bit my tongue far too long listening to your antics and now you just had to drag it out in public because you weren't getting enough attention. It's on.

Divinity Reigns
04-03-2003, 04:14 AM
And as for this post "Hurting Heart" - not at all, it's been a great source of entertainment for us as a guild. And it feels good to be able to finally bring out all the trash naancii has been spewing all these months. I've waited for her to get bored and move on with her life for ages now - but since she decided to bring it all to the public forum, it feels really good to clue people in on what a nutjob she really is.

Should have left well enough alone.

Morbipoo
04-03-2003, 11:14 AM
Ok...I'm pissed off now. Do you have any freaking idea how many names i've had rejected on EQ because someone has already had that name taken? Hundreds. Enough so that I freaking started a character called "Namerejected Byserver" Which it actualy took BTW. Anyway. I'm pissed because apparently VT Mole and Hurting Heart ...According to them, 2 different people, have somehow managed to start a mule by the same name. Anyways, I'm not involved in this situation in any way. Yeah I'm in VT and yeah I'm friends with Divinity and Unien., but I am just going by what I am reading here. There are more holes to be filled in this persons story than there are in the grotto at the playboy mansion. I wish stupidity were painfull. That way it would be hard for you to make posts that contradict your own lies because you'd be too busy passed out on the floor writhing in pain. Well now that I feel that i have been too serious for way longer than I usually allow myself to be, i must make a total ass out of myself, laugh hysterically, and then be perplexed why days later no one has even read my post. I love that.

Things which amuse me:

Girlies jumpin on trampolines (I love the man show)
Picking lint out of my belly button
Reading posts that start off "I'm tired of people flaming their ex guilds" and then basically saying "let me tell you how fucked up my ex guild was" Talk about Hypocritical Tendencies (Stupidity....hurt...GOD I WISH!!)

Turn ons :

Long walks on the beach
Half naked girlies on the beach
Half naked girlies taking long walks on the beach
Indoor plumbing

Turn Offs :

People named Eggbert, Edwin, and Engelbert
People who will do anything to get attention like listing turn ons and turn off and shit like that. There's some lame people out there I swear.
The fact that stupidity doesn't hurt. (I admit it...I'd have me my fair share of pain. I'd probably be feeling a bit right now. Doesn't matter tho. no one is going to read this crap anyway so I'll pretend it will be read and post whatever the hell I want. know why? Because i can.

Thing I want to do most before I die :

Live


Ok.. this is just getting lamer and lamer by the second. i think I need to go lie down. i am getting a shooting pains in my fingers and my head. Shit. Now I'm half tempted to delete this crap. It's not getting anybetter.

Someone kill me please ...

Carine Sureal
04-03-2003, 12:04 PM
Naancii...

I would suggest if you would go away (perhaps to another server to stalk people?)...then this whole mess will go away.

You've proved nothing by your posts...and if HurtingHeart/VTmole is not you, "it" has not proved anything either. If you consider the pictures posted by "it" on this forum as porn...you seriously have some eye-opening to do. Are you from a religion that believes women should be wearing long robes and hoods and veils? That would be the only people I would think that would consider that picture "porn". And I think even they would be very disappointed.

Just a little hint also Naancii...I don't fricking care what you can dig up/drag out about me. Not going to affect me in game nor in real life. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE! LoL! Before I left for Stormhammer, I couldn't stand you. Absolutely HATED grouping with you...you were useless in a group. Whining and crying over little pissy-assed things...and I definitely do not want to hear anymore about attention seekers. My gawds...you were number one in that category. No...I did not give my opinions on you one way or another to Divinity or anyone else in the guild except Dak before I left for Stormhammer. (Although I think Divinity could kick my ass now over that.) When he would say that you wanted to group...I would just groan and tell him "go ahead and invite her" and then would sit here at my keyboard, gritting my teeth the whole time. I thought maybe it was "just me", and you were clashing with things I can't stand about most other females in game...for I am definitely one that sees right through another females whining and moaning and trying to get attention. Been there...done that...too many times to count. Have watched it tear apart guilds and friends...just over a stupid female that can't keep her mouth shut and play the damn game.

And no people...I am not a minion of Divinity. She has nothing to do with me posting WHENEVER I want/feel like it. I am old enough to make my own decisions now...TOO FRICKING OLD to be told WHAT to do. There are specific rules in our guild as there are in EVERY decent guild on the server that are expected to be upheld. IF you cannot abide by those rules and decide to act like an ass in guildchat...then act like one in tells to guild officers...what should you expect happen? Divinity has never ever shown or acted like a power-hungry bitch from what I've seen of her actions...period. She expects people to follow the rules as would ANY guild leader. I've never seen her act pissed/hurt/jealous of other females. Hell...she has Unien in character and in real life. Why the HELL would she want another? (If you decide you don't want him anymore Divinity...can I have him?)

This has been a huge delight for me to read this forum every day to see what else can be drug up by Naancii/HurtingHeart/VTmole to try and defend their useless cause...whatever the hell that was? And why/what did these guys mean to accomplish? The people in this guild are not going to leave because of some useless trash that you "thought" may be of interest that we all know about already or have seen/experienced first hand.

Go get a life outside of EQ Naancii/HurtingHeart/VTmole...perhaps it will keep you busy to where you won't have to TRY and drag a good person's name/guild through the mud. Looks to me like Divinity came out...clean as a whistle.

Carine

"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

Carabella Valenteen
04-03-2003, 12:34 PM
/kill morbipoo

Trixsterjl
04-03-2003, 02:26 PM
Lol

I can't even fathom why Div felt the need to respond to some anon schmuck. Honestly it is always the same old names doing the same BS.

? can Hubbe edit any post?

Anyway I had to read through and see what the hype was when i saw 6 pages of posts. LoL. A hugh waste of my valuable time. Some one owes me a 100 bucks. I'd take it out of Vtmoles * but they are too spineless to post with a name.

Let me say in reply to one post I read that I was the one that caused the issue with the BUD members. I don't think any of them have any issues with Div. They are all fine individuals from what I saw in the short time I met them. I appoligize for the thoughtless post on the forum board that caused the problem, and wish you all well. (heh off topic).

As one who does Know Divinity and Unien I laugh at some of the tabloidish tacitcs. You people sould really get a life. They are quality people and players.

Bright Nyght 62 Enc UtraVT

Trixsterjl
04-03-2003, 02:41 PM
Lol

I can't even fathom why Div felt the need to respond to some anon schmuck. Honestly it is always the same old names doing the same BS.

? can Hubbe edit any post?

Anyway I had to read through and see what the hype was when i saw 6 pages of posts. LoL. A Huge waste of my valuable time. Some one owes me a 100 bucks. I'd take it out of Vtmoles * but they are too spineless to post with a name.

Let me say in reply to one post I read that I was the one that caused the issue with the BUD members. I don't think any of them have any issues with Div. They are all fine individuals from what I saw in the short time I met them. I apologize for the thoughtless post on the forum board that caused the problem, and wish you all well. (heh off topic).

As one who does Know Divinity and Unien I laugh at some of the tabloidish tactics. You people should really get a life. They are quality people and players.

Bright Nyght 62 Enc UtraVT

Hubbe
04-03-2003, 06:32 PM
<-- In reference to your question, I can only referr to my title.

I can since I'm one of the admins. Any time I do, it will show up under the post though.

Morbipoo
04-04-2003, 05:50 AM
Oooh you know what that means huh? Rigormortis... Nateures permanent Viagra. Who's going to be the first to hop on pop? 8)

HurtingHeart
04-06-2003, 03:55 AM
Bump.

Can’t let my efforts go to waste, now can I?

Unien, it is pretty inspiring to see you sticking up for Div, after she publicly made such a chump of you. Or is it really the elusive Mr. B? Maybe Div decided to log on under your name and show her loyalty to herself. You just never can tell on the internet, can you? Well, you obviously can, but most the rest of us slobs can't.

Well, whoever you are, great job. I’m certainly completely distracted by all the evil plots you have uncovered. I’m sure everyone ALMOST forgot why this started out. You know, about you betraying people’s trust by publishing their private conversations where they can't defend themsleves, fucking up a quest and Div lying about it. And let's not forget about her distributing sleaze to your friends. And then all the stuff we learned about how you got the guild to begin with. And Carine's $900 twink. It just has been one surprise after another.

Almost as surprising as how we have been enjoying this whole thread "as a guild." I know I have, but I'm not so sure about everyone else.

Oh, and thanks for the password tips, Unien/Div. Like I said several days ago, I already read the lecture, but I guess you are just looking out for us. Such nice people.

Carine Sureal
04-06-2003, 09:26 AM
And your point is...........................?

And you were going where with it............?

And who were you going to impress..............?

And who was going to care...................?

Carine Sureal

"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

Trixsterjl
04-06-2003, 06:38 PM
Cool, I just noticed you edited a post and thought it was odd. Lol i though maybe you were the anon assling or whatever you called it.

Heart - I'm not sure who pee'd in you wheaties. I laugh at every one of your points, those that actually know what the hell they talking about are the only one's really getting a laugh out of this post. Wizards first rule "People are stupid and will believe anything" for lack of evidence against. IE: if i we're to post of picture of a 300 pound eunich in a dress and say it was you, lol, at least every other person would say yep, yep. Believe what you like, it doesn't make is so. Mostly you should STFU as to decrease how damn ignorant you look.

Bright Nyght
62 enc Ultra-Violent
(typed fast not edited)

Divinity Reigns
04-06-2003, 08:48 PM
Yes, you've worked very hard to make an ass of yourself.

Besides, it helps me - everytime you bump this post it lets everyone see what kind of nutjob naancii is and exactly what kind of wonderful "friend" you are to her.

Good job!

Morbipoo
04-07-2003, 08:31 AM
What's a surgery like that go for? I'm beting atleast $900. Yet somehow he/she/it/ found a way to do it for free. You got any breast enhancement tips? Or maybe any tips on how to lengthen the penis. You know...not for me. I'm packing mucho donkeyness myself. Just saying for the benefit of my elephantitisly challenged friends here. I mean. look at you. made an ass and you've definitely done some nut enhancement too because no matter how many people tell you that you're clearly faker than Pamela Anderson's tits when she was on baywatch, yet you insist you're telling the truth. That requires balls. Big balls. Big dragging when you walk kinda balls.

Speaking of nutjob's, is that anything like a blowjob? if it is i'll take two.

Peace out.

Morbis Shadowstalkyr
Over 2 billion twitched. Come play with my Staff of Writhing.

Trixsterjl
04-07-2003, 01:52 PM
hey hubbie can you delete this and my first post on page 6 that ended up being a double when i was trying to figure out how to edit. Please?

Trixsterjl
04-07-2003, 02:12 PM
damn igmoe i remember helping you out when you were like level 12. I took a break come back you all are in 30's, break come back 40's, break back 50's. LoL, not sure what made you so bitter toward them, as I thought they were always helping you with this and that and vise. Doesn't mater I guess. My first rule has always been to not talk bad about my ex-guilds and i have had a few. Even then they screwed someone over good. I understand you'd defending a friend, but those that were there for the split and the change in tag know the details. Your version is close, i just dont recall the strong arm part. They are both casual players that do this and that for fun. I've never seen them force anyone to do anything, and they only deguild people that make asses out of themself. Lol, i'd have gotten my boot at least a dozen times i'm sure if we were not RL friends. Anyway, if your bored one day i'm on as, bright, watertight, maybe horned. send a tell and let me know what happened. Otherwise good travels.

Bright Nyght
62 enc Ultra-Violent

Igmoe
04-07-2003, 10:01 PM
Hello Bright.

I remember the time we spent in AoF also. Although I have to think you have me mixed up with another person. You state you remember helping me out when I was level 12, then you took a break 30's, break 40's, break 50's well this confuses me because I wasn't even on the Ay-Ro server in my teens and 20's. I was in my early 30's when I came to this server from the Karana server when Ay-Ro was created in Dec. 2000. I moved at the same time Bama,Algonquin,Nessa,Allurielle and a few others moved.

I met Divinity and Unien at the freeport docks one day, ( they were mid teens to early 20's in level if I recall correctly, I was mid to late 40's). Divinity had mentioned something to the fact its a shame they made her character look like she wore her underwear on the outside of her armor. We all had a good laugh, and knowing how it felt to wear armor that either was ugly and/or crappy I gave her 50pp (or some small total of plat) to help her on her way to improve the armor situation. 50pp at this time is a drop in the bucket for any of us, but at the time it was a pretty decent sum on pp for myself and to her.

Divinity, Unien, myself and Algonquin chatted while waiting on the boat to show up. Once it came, they boarded and a few days passed.

After a couple days I sent tell to see how things were going for them. She was happy to receive the tell, and had stated she was "upset" I sent tell cause she was going to send a thank you tell after a day or two had passed.

As time passed we all chatted, and I offered a guild invite to them, they accepted.

Once Vahlen left for over seas, things "changed". It may not be fair to lay all blame on Divinity's or Unien's shoulders as to the problems but I do feel they along with Raven played a part in things going south.

To describe where the bitterness comes from:
I didn't hold a big grudge when I left AoF, but I knew it was time to leave for myself. The problems came about when after a short time I was running the guild Kindred Heroes and would have guildmates (ones that didnt even know who AoF was) asking me why they are getting spammed from AoF members about KH's guildleader being an asshole, that since they were KH they were scum etc. etc. Thats when it started to piss me off. I didn't mind getting tells of that nature, that I could deal with. But when a guildmate is standing in Oasis and a AoF member is spaming the zone with KH blah blah this and that, and sends tells to a guildmate riding thier ass, then yeah, I became bitter.

I had several rounds with the shaman Dakeyras (sorry spelling maybe a bit off on name, it has been awhile) with him sending tells about how I was a traitor,an ass, etc.

I admit, I am over due to put that stuff behind me. I held alot of bitterness due to my friends and guildmates getting treated like that. Actually with the posts of this thread and me giving it some thought I am finished with holding the bitterness. It accomplishes nothing and serves no purpose really.

Anyway, I wish you the best Bright, and all of VT to have fun, and enjoy the game for what it is.


Igmoe Icelannder
61 Warlord

Raven Lunatic VT
04-08-2003, 12:09 AM
Spineless people are funny. :)
Morons are funnier. :D
Psycho people are the funniest. :lol

Things in VT have gone south? lol Hows KH doin these days Igmoe? Oh wait.......you all disbanded. And you know what, none of us in VT cared! lol Or did you expect us to?

Time to grow up dude and not worry whats happenin where you left. The story of what happened has largley been twisted around by people who either have no idea what really happened, or only have a partial story. Good god man, its been way over a year since you left. None of us give a crap about what you're doin, why the hell do you care so much of what were doing? lol

Now its time to go watch KU kick the shit out of the 'cuse......

Raven Lunatic
63 Warlord AND the motherfucker who ran aof into the ground....:lol :lol :lol

Carabella Valenteen
04-08-2003, 01:12 AM
This thread gives me a headache.

Now.. to get rid of it-

/smirk//

Igmoe
04-08-2003, 03:56 AM
/giggle Raven


You always could make me laugh with your manic ideas and thoughts.

Good luck in the future.


Igmoe Icelannder
61 Warlord

Ubfubar
04-08-2003, 11:12 AM
Now its time to go watch KU kick the shit out of the 'cuse......




DOH!

allamar zultheiron
04-08-2003, 01:22 PM
you know,im wonderin if all these people involved with this post.are ALL one and the same person.
that split personality thingy,comes to mind. :)

Dee Cee
04-08-2003, 02:16 PM
excuse me while i hijack this silly thread to ask a question..
whats the base manna regin sitting / standing ?

Trixsterjl
04-08-2003, 02:29 PM
I dont think i've ever seen a stat on it but like hp's it is level based. 1 to 10 is 1, 2 to 20 2 ... i believe anyway. I'm not sure how much of that is meditation skill and how much is just level.

Carine Sureal
04-08-2003, 02:41 PM
you know,im wonderin if all these people involved with this post are ALL one and the same person.
that split personality thingy,comes to mind.

Allamar Zultheiron

Overlord of nothing

BLEH!!

Even THINKING of comparing me to the psycho bitch Naancii will get you snared, rooted, and Dot'd...in game!

That is probably THE worse comparison you could do.

Carine Sureal
Druid of the 60th Season
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

Morbipoo
04-09-2003, 04:20 AM
It took some doing. It's actually quite obvious tho. The person behind VT Mole, Hurting Heart, and Naancii is none other than :

The Iraqi Minister of Information Mohammad Said al-Sahhaf

Think about it. No matter how obvious it is to the entire world that his government is getting his ass smoked like a dime bag in a college dorm, he insists that the Americans and British will be crushed. There's buildings falling down around him and yet "Baghdad is safe"

These is the type of bullshit VTMole, Hurtin Heart, Naancii is bringing to the table for us to get a good whiff of. Luckilly due to my intuitive detective work I was able to figure this all out. Luckilly we won't have to worry about this anymore once the troops firmly lodge an RPG right up this minister guys ass.

IceeLady
04-10-2003, 03:05 AM
Good Grief. I go away for a week and this train wreck is still on the front page.

Excuse me, Morbis, but you need to read back over my 3 posts. Nowhere have I attacked VT. I do not call people “bitches,” swear, or presume to know what ‘quest’ you are doing. I urged VT Mole to stop this thread and move on. I am not “in league” with him, and I don’t know who he is. You need to sort out what I have actually said, vs what you have been told, before you lump me in with him/them.

I understand that the members of VT are being exhorted to support their leaders by writing. I hear they are being subjected to a barrage of messages about my crimes (which, if I understand correctly, involve an IP address from a post I made 6 months ago.) Divinity knows that the person who shouts the loudest and the longest is who people usually end up believing. She lives and breathes this game, sits on these boards and posts rebuttals within minutes. She has a lot at stake. I do not have the time, energy, or interest to match her in a mud slinging battle. Fact is I haven’t had time to even play EQ for the last few weeks.

But I figured my lack of response might be touted as proof that I am “guilty of something” or “intimidated.” So I replied, because I most certainly am NEITHER.

Now shout away, Div and whoever else you can convince to join you. Put a lot of hatred and energy into it, if it makes you feel better. Because you never know. I may come back in a week or so and actually read it. :)

~~~NaanciIcemiind~~~

Trixsterjl
04-10-2003, 07:34 PM
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I understand that the members of VT are being exhorted to support their leaders by writing. I hear they are being subjected to a barrage of messages about my crimes.
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I'll tell you what i'm an officer and I stumbled on this post my chance. This PoS post isn't mentioned on our private board or on our seperate officer dicussion forum. As far as "we" talking about you. LOL. I've heard you name a few times here and there when you post something surpassingly stupid, but other then that I know nothing about you. You mater to me and mine about as much as that little turd that refuses to be flushed.

Bright Nyght
62 Enc Ultra-violent.

sexykamzak
04-10-2003, 08:20 PM
ok im so confused / dont care bout this thread anymore. I have learned a few things though, psycho beotches are still psycho beotches. But that doesnt mean they dont need some troll man chowder does it???
i think we should all get naked and give pappa kammy some loving, cuase we trolls can get our groove thang on. "bum chicka wow wow" :hat . but to those that care VT still rocks, we still have fun, and Kammy is a sexy MOFO. what else matters? So everyone tell there sisters, and mothers, and anyone else in need of some donky sized penil loving (not pally's though, dont need no san fransico treat on this thread) and send kamzak a tell, and lets get freaky :) :smokin :smokin :smokin or if you would like feel free to visit my website for more details WWW.trollsareorgasim.machines.com

or for pally's feel free to visit www.poopshootriot.com

Carine Sureal
04-12-2003, 12:10 AM
I understand that the members of VT are being exhorted to support their leaders by writing. I hear they are being subjected to a barrage of messages about my crimes (which, if I understand correctly, involve an IP address from a post I made 6 months ago.)

Gosh damnit Divinity...if you don't quit leaving me out of the damn thread!! How come you haven't exhorted or barraged me??? So...my replies here aren't good enough? Have you somehow placed me on ignore so that I can't see all the exhortion and barrages?

Bah.........Just 'cause I'm a druid I bet........Raven has evidently corrupted your thinking of me. :/

Carine

Carine Sureal
04-12-2003, 12:12 AM
I think I'm jealous Kam. :/ *sighs*

Carine

HurtingHeart
04-13-2003, 05:39 AM
Speaking of stupid postings, Pest, probably the stupidest is one where six words are misspelled in one short paragraph…by someone writing in their native language. Anyhow, I’m devastated that you and the other officers think I’m a turd. Well, maybe not devastated. Refer to the title of this thread.

Ok Carine, we all see you, and know you will keep up your inane posts until someone pays attention to you. Have you ever noticed how many people try to ignore you? Here’s a clue, dear. You aren’t being exhorted to write because you don’t have to be. You are anxious to post as many times as you can, regardless of having nothing to say. But thanks for the frequent bumps. And thanks also for leaving out the silly little emotes, like *blinks innocently* and *smiles nervously and backs away* that you put in most your forum posts. What are you? 13? Does your mom know you spent $900 on mind money?

J/K, we all know your real age, because you share details of your personal life ALL THE TIME. But here is a detail you haven’t shared. I heard you are somewhat adipose challenged in RL. Is that just a rumor? No offense, just trying to give you some subject matter since you love to write about yourself.

Carine Sureal
04-13-2003, 07:48 AM
Hmm...well...for one, I've never used those emotes you said I used. I would never...EVER "smiles nervously and back away" from ANYONE. That is a sign of weakness, and I guarantee you won't find me backing down from anything/anyone in RL or in game. You'd rather try to stick a hot poker up a wildcat's ass than mess with me. You've evidently mixed me up with someone else that gives a damn about whether they get attention or not...like you.

And damn...I hate that you found out that others ignore me. Let me see if I can muster up a tear over that. Hmmm...nope. That falls right back under that..."I don't give a damn" category.

What details have I shared besides that I'm old? Besides my screwy work schedule so others will know I'm not trying to avoid helping on their quests and such. (Gah! I forgot...I'm on everyone's ignore list...scratch that.) I'll admit to anything if it's the truth. I'm not married to anyone on here...I don't go home to anyone on here. OMFG!! This falls right back into that..."I don't give a damn" category, again! You're about to get a prize for first place in hitting that category more than anyone else EVER has!!

And also, I'm very...VERY impressed with your use of "out of the ordinary" words in your sentences, such as adipose. But dearest HurtingHeart, you really SHOULD look up the definition before using them in your rants. You're somehow confused as to the meaning of it when describing me. You must be describing yourself with that word and just got it a bit mixed up. BUT...there again if "adipose challenged" did describe me...you would have hit that "I don't give a damn" category once more!! Ding...DING!! First place!! You get the blue ribbon and the booby prize! But alas, I cannot give it to you since you are too scared to use your character name. Yanno? If we really...REALLY cared about what you've said so far...and we really...REALLY bugged the shit out of you in-game after finding out who you are...there's always /petition.

Anyway, I was wondering how long it would take for you to reply to my posts...since you can't get anything over on Divinity...let's try picking on someone else huh? Well...as usual...you really are clueless. That's what you should have made as your User Name for this forum since you're too big of a chicken shit to use your real name. Is that a yellow streak I see running down your back? Ooooh...yes...it is!! You are weak.

Carine

P. S. Mostly the only reason I've been posting is to try and get out of being a "Wanderer". So I've had to say something....dayam. Can't a person get a break?

Trixsterjl
04-13-2003, 10:10 AM
Lol,

Oldest game in the book, when you can't argue fact, argue quality. I've never edited well. Just lazy I guess. Anyway at least your admiting by that that you don't know shit.

Thanks,

bright

Morbipoo
04-15-2003, 10:33 AM
I just wanted to get mentioned here. I like to be in the spotlight. I feel all jealous if someone else is the center of attention. Thank you very much. I may now get back to being a minion.

Dartaignon
04-15-2003, 12:23 PM
Oh shit, let this thread die. It will never have the capacity or ability to touch the "This one's for LS" thread, so just give up now.

Tirronan
06-02-2003, 05:47 AM
You know when I decided to leave VT I just let the leaders know I was going and found another guild. I'd like to suggest to all involved to follow that lead and forget it.

Is VT the black force from hell? Nope.

Are they angels misunderstood? Nope.

Have I really given it more than 3 minutes consideration since I left? Nope.

I know! Lets be adults and walk away and let everyone play this GAME the way they want to.

Kialya
06-02-2003, 04:15 PM
You bumped a post which was almost 2 months old to say that?

HurtingHeart
06-10-2003, 07:08 AM
I have a reason to bump this post. 2 months ago, I left this server, and I posted a note in the VT forum admitting to being VT Mole and apologizing to the many non involved members of Violent Tendencies if they had been hurt by this thread.

Last week I found out that my confession/apology was deleted before anyone got a chance to read it! I always suspected that Divinity deletes whole threads and edits people’s posts if they displease her, but to delete an apology shows a really profound level of control freakishness.

Well, she doesn’t have complete control over this forum. And while the apology is late, here it is. Sorry if my actions hurt the non-involved members. I only wished for folks to see what was going on. I started intending only to publish the facts, but ended up throwing mud. I regret if some innocents got splattered.

I also want to apologize to the folks who were sick of this thread. But I am glad there are forums like this, which serve to give control freaks pause. A Free press is the nightmare to a dictator.

But most importantly, I want people to know that when you go to these small private forums like VT, you need to be really careful. What you read may not be what was written—especially if it involves people who are no longer able to access the forum. Also, be aware that your passwords and any personal information you supply are NOT encrypted or protected. Everything is available to the administrator of the forum.

Gone, but not forgotten,
Aendiil Amnesia

Basdutyra
06-11-2003, 01:07 AM
I'm sure you thought to teach us all a leason about security Aendiil, but all that I've learned here was a person that I thought to be a friend is nothing more than traitorous deceitful bastard. And regardless of what goes on in a guild's private forum, for you to make it public in some silly smart ass way, marks you as somebody every guild should avoid putting on their roster.

Enjoy your 5 minutes of fame, even if its infamy you sought.

______________
Basdutyra
Violent Tendencies's angry Tail Chaser
~~~~~~~~~~
"Lead, follow, or get out of my damn way....Please"
~~~~~~~~~~

HurtingHeart
06-19-2003, 07:57 PM
Yes, Bas. I was a smart ass. And anonymous posting is pretty low. In my defense, I did admit to it and apologize, even though you never got to see it. But, while we are talking about low behaviors, do you really think it was ok for Divinity to delete my apology before anyone could read it? And was it OK to ruin the hedge quest and write moralizing letters lying about it and blaming the non officers when she was right there most of the time? How about sending skank pictures to your husband’s friends, and publishing other people’s private conversations without their knowledge in a forum where they can’t fight back? I can bet there hasn’t been one apology coming about any of that.

IF you think that these kinds of activities are just fine, then obviously you belong to the right guild. But it’s more likely that you have no where else to go, or you would have left already. I know a LOT of people have.

Aendiil Amnesia

mirdorr
06-19-2003, 08:08 PM
If you posted the skank pictures, perhaps people might forgive you......

Divinity Reigns
06-20-2003, 03:28 AM
You didn't write any such apology. Fact is, Raven removed you from the guild the day this was written and you were banned from the forum right afterwards. Since you're still going on and on about this months later, it must have really got to you. Good.

Feel free to keep bringing this post up right after it scrolls off the front page. It seems it's the only thing you're good at - and if it makes you leave someone else alone, all the better.

Enjoy!

Divinity Reigns
06-20-2003, 03:30 AM
And your style was noted. It seems this was your form when you left Cold Comfort too.

Have a good night!

Akie
06-20-2003, 04:05 AM
Hypocrite

Aulea
06-22-2003, 07:00 AM
Did I see Cold Comfort mentioned?

*perked up and steps out of the shadows*

Damn Aendiil I miss you, come back to AR.

And really I was there, he did not leave Cold Comfort under any strange circumstance other than we could not support him in his efforts to achieve the training for the ultimate crack ability. We just couldn't deal the good stuff. Seriously he needed a higher power. And he never once in our grouping devolged where the secret spot was, and I am kinda cute and hard to resist but he did, the secret still remains with VT.

Still miss you Aendiil keep in touch some way.

Aulea Darkseeker
Necromancer of the 56 season
Devoted Cold Comfort clan member

HurtingHeart
06-30-2003, 09:54 PM
Thanks Aulea. I didnt know I left under strange circumstances either. But Divinity, you seem to have your own set of facts. Here are some of them from this thread.

You never deleted the apology. (Why would I make this up?—I have already admitted who I was publicly.)

You had Raven ban me from the forum when this appeared. (What date was that exactly? And why Raven--can't you administer your own forum? And if you knew it was me, why didn't you mention my name-you certainly threw enough shit at other people.)

You never experienced in the hedge. (I was with you, remember?)

Someone hacked into your mailbox to get your pictures. (You yourself wrote that they were published on the web.)

You are 100% certain that this whole thread was an outside job with Naanci supplying the information to someone using Maxx's birthday to hack into your forum. (She had NOTHING to do with any of this. I never talked to her about any of this. Besides, you know I had access to the forum the whole time.)

You really do lie more than you tell the truth, don't you?

Chand01
07-01-2003, 12:46 AM
Hi, I lack the ability to read rules. Mock me, please.

Aulea
07-07-2003, 03:07 AM
Friend I have known you to be nothing but honest. Please email me. beileag@snet.net.

Your friend Aulea
www.cold-comfort.com/auleasig2.jpg (http://www.cold-comfort.com/auleasig2.jpg)

Carine Sureal
07-07-2003, 05:32 PM
I would have replied sooner to this thread, which I can't believe has not been dropped yet...but I have not checked the board lately.

So now I see...this is the thanks I get for dropping almost anything to come rez you and/or your friends with Myst when you needed it Aendiil?

How many times did I come rez you and/or your friends? Can you even count them on both hands? If I wasn't able to drop whatever I was doing at the time, did I not check with you to make sure you got a rez before I logged if you were online still? Or...did I not check with you the next time I saw you online? How many times did you 're-ding' 60 because of a 96 percent rez I gave you?

Yanno? A lot of people warned me about you Aen...but I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt...even with you hanging around someone like Naancii who I could not stand "before" she was invited into the guild. But yanno? I never gave my personal opinion to Divinity about her. Others, (NOT Divinity, nor Unien, nor Raven) kept telling me to quit dropping whatever I was doing and signing on Myst and coming to rez you and your friends and/or whoever else in the guild needed one...that it would eventually bite me. But...I kept on. You had not done anything to me at that time to make me think differently.

Ahhh...the old adage applies here...fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me. I hope you are pleased with yourself now and have somehow received some type of reward, glory, honor, and dignity with all you have said/posted on this forum. I hope you feel much bigger and exonerated now from whatever the hell it was by posting this shit and bringing up historic crap. Apologies were a bit late after the fact of your posting here...you've made your thoughts known about VT and it seems no one really cares...so just drop it please. VT will be around for a long time, no matter how many people come and go and under whatever circumstances.

Venerable Carine Sureal
Tunarean Druid of the 61st season
Beloved wife of Sendole/Lethus
Proud member of Violent Tendencies
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go, instead, where there is no path and leave a trail."

HurtingHeart
07-09-2003, 06:29 AM
I didn't get your answer, Div. When, exactly, did you ban me from your forum? I know you are anxious to explain if you said these things **before** or **after** you learned who I was.

Was it 3/31/03?

100% positive naancii was using maxx's name and password to access the forum. Problem solved. Game over. End of story.

or 4/1/03

the accuser provided written proof only of what you gave them from our private forums, and nothing since you've been banned, and the hacked account removed.

or 6/1/03
Fact is, Raven removed you from the guild the day this was written and you were banned from the forum right afterwards.

So what is it, Div? Did you know it was me and ban me right away and yet never even mention my name? Or did you really believe it was all an outside job and then try to bury it when you realized your "100% positive" theory was blown. Either way, once again...refer to the title of the whole thread.

You still have no idea what is happening and how smart the people outside your little circle are, do you?

IceeLady
07-09-2003, 08:55 PM
People have been telling me to read this, thinking I would get a big laugh, but it's really very sad. Aendiil, please don't tell me you left the server because of a few vulgar irritants. You were always so friendly, smart, and witty. And you had KEI! There has been a real shortage lately, you know. Some of us poor casters are forced to wander the dark alleyways of PoK, calling out weakly for KEI, noses running and platinum clutched in hand.

Hopefully I have made you feel guilty enough that you will do something for me. I will leave my main in bazaar mode as much as I can over the next few days and, if you still have an EQ account, please leave me your email address. (You DO owe me, you know. After I went to all the trouble of driving to an office I no longer work at in order to hack into the VT website 55 times in one morning just for you.)

Seriously, Aendill, I have some burning questions you may be able to answer. Even if not, I would love to hear from you.


NaanciIcemiind

Aulea
07-10-2003, 12:34 PM
Well Aendiil buddy several of us still want to have contact with you, if nothing else come to the CC board and leave a message let us know where you are, many of us miss you a lot and not just for KEI. You know I don't use it anyway, what use does a necro have for KEI (snicker), seriously friend many of us miss you, please contact us. My email address is above or just come to the CC board and leave a message.

Your friend
Aulea

http://www.cold-comfort.com/auleasig2.jpg

Nemaj
07-10-2003, 07:56 PM
I just read this thread. Holy shit. These motherfuckers are crazy.

HurtingHeart
05-16-2004, 11:47 PM
Sorry to bump such an old one, and a lot of you probably are not even here anymore. But I fell the need to apologize to a few people.

Aulea..Sorry I never got back to you, but I just put the whole thing behind me and life got busy. You are a classy lady and I hope your life is good.

Naan..I am sorry you got dragged into this, and sorry I stayed anonymous for so long. I was waiting for them to hang themselves further. I'm pretty sure you didn't take this too seriously.

Frag, Shallow, Bas, Path...all of you were cool. I never aimed any of this at you as members. It was just the officers who were being lying scum.

But I'm not sorry

Cados Evilsbane
05-17-2004, 12:54 AM
This ToV v 13.7 or whatever?

Yeah right >D

ToV foreva & proud of it.

Grumblin
05-18-2004, 09:24 AM
hey- Hurtingheart

Noone gives a fuck! You should have left this sitty post back at the fucking bottom, where it belongs, like cockroaches, and feet.

Sharookan
05-25-2004, 02:42 PM
been watching this thread from beginning...and after 1 year still no sex0r.
NAG forum is really going down

Atolicus75
06-16-2004, 03:18 AM
Just had to say here...omfg..this is crazy..and so long ago...But i need to say..Divinity is such a sweetheart..and will always be.

Ghost Tracker D
08-21-2004, 01:50 AM
Damn Atolicus your still a fucking Beandick... COPS!!!! damn you suck...

Chanzilla
08-22-2004, 04:04 PM
Maybe mods should lock this lamo thread so it dont get bumped every few months.


And yes I know the irony of my post:p

Siludorf
08-23-2004, 02:22 AM
Finally someone who understands the true meaning of irony.. shakespere style not like the stupid dictionary version..

Swifton
08-23-2004, 07:22 AM
pfft guild drama brought public..pfft when will peeps learn..

grinding in hedge....tell the ignorant fucks to get an ldon grp and stop fucking up the instances for folks.

Dakeyras
09-12-2004, 08:33 PM
wow .. my first time ever reading this post - its been a real good laugh

"No...I did not give my opinions on you one way or another to Divinity or anyone else in the guild except Dak before I left for Stormhammer."

If you still read these forums carine ... why'd you go and drag my ... shit cant say good ... why'd you bring me in ? lol

Pity VT broke up ... even more pitiful to see this post months after they broke up .. wish I'd paid more attention in the past

still better late than never ...

Gimme some love kam ... barb's need lovin' just like those pallies you keep locked in the dungeon

Buyza
09-13-2004, 01:43 AM
WTF? Shut up.

LummusL
09-13-2004, 02:41 PM
Buyza...were you not at -34 last week? You must be getting soft.

Buyza
09-13-2004, 03:26 PM
Yah I got a few "I like your posts, here is a positive" rep points. I need to just post some new EW flames I guess!

Fazin
09-13-2004, 06:21 PM
You need to play russian roulette with a shotgun. Although, I imagine you'll fuck up at that too.

Buyza
09-14-2004, 01:06 AM
lol good one!

Fazin
09-14-2004, 02:01 AM
Thanks for the feedback though :/

Buyza
09-14-2004, 02:40 AM
yah np =\

Starrla
09-18-2004, 05:57 PM
Gosh...cold comfort guild still around?
That was my first guild ...back in first part of 2001 in game. hehehe