Or how not to talk when your clan in counterstrike can record what you are saying

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ROFL, I thought it was a girl at first.

If I ever spoke to my mom like that, not only she have kicked my ass, my dad would have pulverized me.

Funny... ish... but more disturbing how little control some parents have over their children.

I'm pretty sure it's a fake (at least, I hope it is). The kid sounds like Andy Milonakis.

I agree with Akom.... I hope it aint real. If my daughter talked to either my wife or myself like that she'd have to first, find her teeth when mom cracked her then second find a good proctologist to take my foot out of her ass... MY mom would bitch slap me the second I raised my voice let alone cuss.

If thats real, I have lost all faith in parents.

Being a parent of 2 children at the age in question here, I can vogue for the authenticity of this. My children don't act this way however I have seen a couple my kids "friends" act this way toward their parents.

With the divorce rate like it is there are MANY women who get custody of their children then as a result of the divorce have very little self esteem. Couple that with a pre-adolescent boy and you have a dangerous mix. The 12-15yr old become the dominate personality in the household. These kids treat their mother like dirt and the mother endures it as she only wants what is “best” for her child. The child is deciding what is “best”.

And finally with the state of overreacting parents and legal officials, parents can not discipline their children these days. A smack across the face in Wal-Mart will get your kid in foster care and you 1-2yrs in jail.

A smack across the face in Wal-Mart will get your kid in foster care and you 1-2yrs in jail.

Yeah, because that's the only effective way to discipline children. :confused:

Heh my mom did it to me and I turned out ok. I knew better (and still do) to not disrespect her. Hell she's 69 and with a cane, I'm even more afraid of her now.

I have to admit when I first heard this I never even considered it to be real but rather a hoax. Are you guys telling me there are kids out there who actually act this way? That is beyond sad, but it explains allot.

I think this is probibly staged, however I have see some children (very few mind you) but still kids that speak to their parrents in ways I would have had crap beat out of me for.

Most of the kids were about 11-16 years old, but it was like their parrents didnt even care they were saying *What the fuck* or * I want a god damn pepsi!* in the mall and loud enough that they were getting stared at by others.

Fake or not I though this was very funny. ^_^

I hope this is staged, cause if it isn't that kid needs all his privilages taken away. Possibly even the breathing one (j/k).

I'm surprised she didn't just walk up to him unplug the PC and swaugth his ass. I know that now a days if you even look at a kid wrong someone calls DHS, but sometimes a kid just needs one good swaught on the ass to make 'em realize that what they just did doesn't fly.

Yes, there are kids that act like that. It's pretty scarry.

At this point, assuming that this kid is for real, there's not much that can be done without professional help, in my opinion. Even that is a shot in the dark.

I have teenaged children. They can be mouthy and willful. When they were little, a swat on the backside was all they understood. You can't really have a meaningful discussion with a 2-4 year old. This is my experience.

Now that they are nearing adulthood, they know who pays the bills. :)

You want an X-Box, you say? Where'd the power cord go for the PS2, you ask? Hmmm...Clean your room, and we'll talk.

I see LOTS of kids that act this way, even high schoolers. Assuming it's real, notice mom never enacts any consequences for the behavior? That would be why.

Sorry, if it was my kid they'd probably find themselves grounded extensively, a good spanking for speaking to their mother that way (yup, I'm one of those), and possibly a formatted hard drive the next time they wanted to play their whiney little games. Then he wouldn't be so worried about messing up his game while getting a drink. Ha! Tick off a nerdy parent, will they!

Yeah, because that's the only effective way to discipline children. :confused:
Is this only way? No. Is an effective way of controlling an unruly child? Yes.
Will it produce tangible and repeatable results? Yes.

Is the only way a single parent who finds herself in this predicament could handle the situation on her own? Maybe not the only way but how many single parents are going to search out a physiologist when all they need to do is apply a bit of the back hand. The problem with these children is they have never been taught boundaries. When a baby is reaching for an open flame do you simply say "Now now Baby you don't want to touch that!" No you grab its hand to stop it from hurting itself.

The same is necessary here as these kids don't have an understanding of what is and is not acceptable. They push and push looking for that line. Every child is different but some take a swat to the behind in a public place (embarrassment factor) others a stern look.

Is the "time out" method effective in raising children? yes it is. When the parents are vigilant about the application. In the reality we live in most parents are not going to be that involved in their children to stand over them and protect their every move.

You're kidding me right? My quote was in reference to slapping a child across the face. Not about a smack on the behind. If I saw a parent smack his kid across the face he would get the same from me (edit . . don't blow this out of proportion, I can certainly fathom some instance someone could come up with that would require a slap).

Listen, we're not talking about a stern scolding here. A slap to the face is NEVER called for in any "normal child rearing" circumstance. I'm guessing we're on the same page and that you misunderstood my reference to "slap across the face" but if not, well. . .

I'm not opposed to a spanking. I've never spanked my children but I could maybe see a reason for it given the right circumstances. I've been lucky enough to have children that seem to respond well to the well-placed "timeout".

And as far as producing tangible results. A gunshot to the head produces some pretty tangible results but I don't see it used as a means of discipline very often. Also, don't give me any BS about "parents not being that involved". Here's a clue for them . . . Don't Have Any Kids If You Can't Be Involved!

Alas Grif, how many kids out there were born to parents who had an unplanned pregnancy? So much for the dont have kids if you can't be involved argument.

Alas you're right. Smack away! :confused:

I was spanked twice growing up. Once when I bit my little sister (Hey, I was pretty young too!) and once when I was a bit older and I mouthed off to my mom - my father wasn't too happy about that. Neither time counted as abuse, both times I was told why I was being punished, and I never forgot either time. I also never talked to my mom that way again!

Eh, I think you walk a fine line when you hit a kid. Everyone I know who was abused, including myself, pretty much used the abuse as a fuel for even more rebellion. The worst aspect of it isn't that it's done because the parent wants to discipline the child and do what's in their best interest, but that the parent does it because they either feel like they've been dissed, or because violence was a natural (and perhaps gratifying) response. If you're going to hit a kid, you better be damned sure that you're doing it for the right reasons.

I think if it's a predictable consequence, physical punishment's a good thing (within reason). If you've laid ground rules and the punishment is known in advance, spare the rod and spoil the child.

Hitting a child is just lazy parenting.

Different children respond in different ways to different forms of punishment.

The challenge lies in finding what works. Of course, if you don't bother to find out, then your in for a bumpy ride.

True, but different parents also administer the same general forms of punishment in different manners. ;)

Physical punishment is simply another negative consequence option for behavior. The big difference is dividing parents who, I think, rely mostly on physical punishment from those who use it sparingly. My dad never hit me in anger except the one time I elbowed him in the groin while wrestling (accidently), and I'll let that one go as male reflex. The times I was spanked were calm punishments and I was told why. It wasn't a threat held overhead, or done by a drunk parent, or done to the point of physical injury.

Cases of abuse tend to swing the other way - it's done frequently, to the point of damage, during angry emotional periods, under the influence of alchohol, etc. Any punishment can be taken the wrong way - bed without dinner/dessert, taking away toys, time out in a corner (see: kids locked in cages), etc. Take any of those to an extreme and you have abuse.

Although I guess modern parenting relies on positive reinforcement. Seems to work for the kid in the audio clip!

I think we could discuss modern parental discipline for a good long time.

There's a sector of the populous that feel any form of physical discipline is abuse, whether it's done in a sober, drunken or drug induced state.

I am not one of those.

I finally clicked on this thread...for awhile I just read the subject line and thought it another goofy thread...however

I do not think was staged...no way...

If this was staged the kid needs a Grammy and the mom needs to be checked into an institution for following along with all of this. Even if it was staged, the mom talking back in the background knowing her kid was dog cussing her and going along with it raises too many questions about the mom. Maybe the parent is carefree because she's 25 and has a 13 year old...who knows

The second thing being, the old school way is physical punishment. Going back as far as I can remember, the older males in my family have been just downright MEAN in their oldage. Can we attribute this to the old school way of punishment and its subconscious consequences that fester and shine through in old age? Both my late grandfater and now my father are showing increasing signs of intolerance and mean behavior. Now I don't know if this is just blanket across America because people just get cranky in old age, or if the old school way of parenting has anythhing to do with it. This epidemic may die off if force isn't the primary means of parenting in the future...

That being said, my grandmother would go out side and find a "Switch" ie. a branch off a tree and spank me with it (my legs). My parents spanked me as their means of punishment but I was never really a bad kid. I think my mom slapped my face once though. My dad prefers the verbal sword.

I turned out ok and I really think some force is necessary to keep children in control. Of course force to the extent of abuse is unacceptable.