I loved it. I will see it again and again, but then, I'm a fanboy. Even so, it met my expectation on that side of the coin as well. In fact, somehow a two hour and forty minute movie felt rushed.

Spoilers expected in the replies, so PLEASE GO SEE IT, and then reply. I'm very interested in the reaction of someone who has NOT read the graphic novel.

We're going this weekend, Leah has not read the novel I'll see if I can get her to log on here and give her opinion :p

I will see this, this weekend. I read the graphic novel when it came out, so I will be very critical of this movie.

So far, from the trailers, it looks to be spectacular.

They changed the ending?
Or so I hear, haven't seen it yet.

Fucking amazing!

Oh God.

This movie is so fucking bad. I had been praying that the rapidly declining RT review was just some uptight assholes who couldn't appreciate the movie for what it was, but after suffering through this tonight, I know they are right.

2 and a half hours of a naked blue guy floating around putting his dong in your face.

A couple token gore and action scenes.

Campy and forced dialogue.

Stupid subplots attempting to elicit an emotional response through character relationships the audience isn't even remotely invested in.

Armchair philosopher ending (And while I know the book came first, its the same as Dark Knight)

I was so ready to get out of the theater about halfway through. It's one of those movies that you keep trying to tell yourself is good, but when you get home and are really honest with yourself, you know you just wasted 10 bucks.

Oh God.

This movie is so fucking bad. I had been praying that the rapidly declining RT review was just some uptight assholes who couldn't appreciate the movie for what it was, but after suffering through this tonight, I know they are right.

2 and a half hours of a naked blue guy floating around putting his dong in your face.

A couple token gore and action scenes.

Campy and forced dialogue.

Stupid subplots attempting to elicit an emotional response through character relationships the audience isn't even remotely invested in.

Armchair philosopher ending (And while I know the book came first, its the same as Dark Knight)

I was so ready to get out of the theater about halfway through. It's one of those movies that you keep trying to tell yourself is good, but when you get home and are really honest with yourself, you know you just wasted 10 bucks.

I liked it a ton. Did you ever read the book?

The ending didn't change too much, they just didn't really show you all the blood and guts and gore of the "alien invasion", instead of was John exploding killing everyone - but they took the carnage out because of 9/11. It made it seem a lot more "worth it" to kill a few million to save a few billion not seeing the destruction first hand.

I was glad they took the pirates out and made it a separate movie, that shit was boring. They stayed very true to the novel as much as possible (took out hooded justice and Hollis' murder and stuff, but nothing major to the plot). Everyone in my party didn't ever read the novel but still enjoyed it, though there were a handful of people in my showing who walked out of the theater.

I loved the fuck out of this movie. The dialog is often word for word from the comic. Yeah the ending was changed from the comic.

Ainwein, you never read the graphic novel then.

It was pretty true to the book, there was multiple scenes that made me gasp as they were spot on scenes from the book

Rorschack (spelling) was PERFECTLY casted, absolutly perfect.

The only people I hear saying this is good is people who have read the comic.

This is a high-profile, action blockbuster movie. I should not have to read a 20 year old comic in order to understand what the fuck is going on. It should stand on its own.

It doesn't, and that's why it's getting horrible reviews from anyone who didn't worship the graphic novel. It's a fucking confusing mess.

If the source material is to be considered required for the enjoyment of this flick, they should consider packaging it with the tickets.

I never read the book, still loved it. I guess people were expecting some retarded action shit like Xmen 3 or what?

I never read it and knew exactly what the fuck was going on. Were you not paying attention?

The only people I hear saying this is good is people who have read the comic.

Almost everyone I know who saw the movie but never read the comic loved it. And the only ones who found it confusing were the ditzy stoners that find any movie plot more complicated then the movie Crank difficult to follow. Hooray for anecdotal evidence.

This is a high-profile, action blockbuster movie

No it isn't. I can see why you might hate the movie if for some reason you didn't figure that out for yourself though.


So yeah, the movie was pretty amazing. They adapted it quite well and cut out the parts that were needed while still staying very true to the book. The ending change was pretty minor and possibly better in some ways. Agreed about the Rorschach casting.

I died a little inside when I heard that cover at the end. But other then that the music was great.

I never read the book, still loved it. I guess people were expecting some retarded action shit like Xmen 3 or what?

I never read it and knew exactly what the fuck was going on. Were you not paying attention?

I admit, I'm probably not intelligent enough to get this movie. It and most of its fans are just so cerebral... I can't seem to work it all out.

And everyone I know who saw the movie but never read the comic loved it. Hooray for anecdotal evidence.

Okay, fair enough. Looking beyond the people I know, it's getting universally shit on by movie critics.

It's a convoluted mess. In 2 and a half hours, the movie still manages to completely fail at any semblance of character development or connection with the audience. Rorschach might be the only exception. Everyone else could not have been more cringe inducing.

Some fake batman who looks like he should be on The Office wants to get back into crime fighting. And some whore who gets DPed by two blue guys decides she likes him, so they have some awkward sex and then decide to fly around in their ship and save minorities from a fire.

And then this is supposed to endear me to this woman to the point that I shouldn't feel bored to death suffering through a scene where she finds out some person who hasn't been in the movie for an hour and a half was her father. And apparently he tried to rape her mom before they finally got down all consensual-like.

Also a blue guy floats around with his junk hanging out and sometimes takes exoduses to Mars, where he creates some sort of glass structure which floats around like woah. This is some deep shit, man.

Okay, fair enough. Looking beyond the people I know, it's getting universally shit on by movie critics.

If by 'universally' you mean 1/3rd of critics don't like it, then yes it has been universally panned.

And pretty much any movie can be broken down to look dumb like that, so thats pretty worthless.


I also have to say its funny how much attention a penis is getting in a movie where you see someone's arms get cut off with a saw.

If you want to rationalize a 65% on RT that's fine.

I expect that with some of my favorite movies, like Super Troopers (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/super_troopers/).

This movie, however, obviously tries to take itself very seriously... and just falls completely flat.

Nerd watching Watchmen: :eek:

Everyone else: :confused: ... :(

BUT DONT YOU GET IT? RORSCHACH REPRESENTS TRUE JUSTICE!!! AND HIS MASK IS BLACK AND WHITE AND NEVER GREY!!!! TEH OMG!

pfft, rotten tomatoes gives Taken a 56%....and Taken kicked ass.

This section of the forum needs to be more open minded about people's own opinions of the movie. Saying someone couldn't have understood it simply because they didn't like it is retarded.

Most comic-book adaptations bore me also, as I expect this would, but it's very rarely the case that I don't 'understand' them, or didn't 'read the book'. And sticking to the source material is *not* grounds for a movie being any good. Sometimes the best movies are those that deviate from the literature the most.

Less blue dong more boobs. Movies was good over all.

Saying someone couldn't have understood it simply because they didn't like it is retarded.

Totally agreed, but as far as I can tell no one said anything like that.

News flash: This is not a sophisticated movie. It tries really, really hard to be, but it's not.

It's eye candy for nerds, who can then jerk off over feeling oh so erudite because they picked up on some of the glaringly obvious symbolism in between their beloved SUPER MEGA GOKU HERO POWER DESTRUCTION TIME!!! and latex-clad whores.

And if you don't like it, you just don't get it...

It's confusing because you realize you've suffered through two hours of movie, and are still being bombarded with scenes about characters you could give two fucks about.

I kept waiting, and waiting, for them to tie it all together. And then I realized that they literally were just throwing in dumb scenes on Mars to show off their CGI skills.

If you're the kind of person who thinks Matrix Revolutions is a badass movie because of the fight scenes, you'll like this movie.

If you ever find yourself daydreaming about having superhuman powers which you then use to become the most powerful being in the galaxy, you'll like this movie.

If, however, you don't get a raging hard on from these types of things, this movie offers nothing for you.

I mean seriously. Nite Owl II should be nominated for the fucking worst character ever.

Sounds like Snyder needs to apologize for killing your dog.

/yawn

Very underwhelmed by this flick. Poor plot and very poor direction as they kept flicking back to past events far too long/often.

Dahell, was this a comic version of Scrubs or Family guy?

Don't go watch this unless you're a huge Watchmen fan. I dropped it after the 4th issue in the 80's and it's still just damn awful.

Btw, this wasn't terribly "deep" in the end it's simply.

The end justifys the means...omg so original.

I saw the film tonight, and it had its high points, but was very poorly edited and extremely uneven - and as someone who both read, and was a fan of, the Watchmen graphic novel in the '80s when it first came out, I *still* found the Nite Owl/Silk Spectre 2 scenes painfully bad and excruciating to watch. Yes, Nite Owl was *supposed* to be kind of an earnest dork - in fact they cleaned his costume up too much - but the actress who played Laurie was just an embarassment who could have been replaced with a store mannequin and it would have been an improvement. While some of the characters were spot-on (The Comedian, Rorschach), and Veidt/Ozymandias, while not getting sufficient screentime, was pretty much what one expected, Manhattan, Nite Owl, and Silk Spectre were all more or less abject failures at capturing their respective characters. And it fundamentally alters one's perception of the character of Manhattan for them to change the ending with regard to Rorschach/Nite Owl...

Also, while I'm not put off by explicit violence, and expected The Comedian's murder at the beginning, especially, to be very gory (and it didn't disappoint), we didn't need to see it in flashback five times nor to see some dolt in prison get his arms sawed off, as well as a bunch of other bits of time-wasting gratuitousness (like the above-alluded to sex scene).

There's such a thing as being *too* faithful to the letter of something (in this case, the original comic panels), to the effect that the *spirit* of the original is lost - and I think that's the case with the Watchmen. Snyder has lost sight of the forest for the trees, and as a result has created a film that's visually iconic and really well done in places, but without a soul, and ultimately, it's difficult to care about anyone in it with the exception of the deceased Comedian, and most of the scenes wherein he *tries* to instill emotion range from flat to false to laughable.

I think the 65% rating on Rottentomatoes is pretty fair, as long as one understands that that '35% rotten' could just as well be taken to mean that 35% of the film itself was really rotten... ;)

Regards,
Nydia

Well, I can say I thought the movie was very well done. There were deviations from the original story (Why introduce an "alien invasion" when there's a big blue "cancer causing" guy right in front of you to hate?), but it was faithful to it as well (Rocharch's transformation was spot on).

I did like the musical choices (Sound of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel for Comedian's funeral was spot on.), and I liked how the back story of the original Watchmen members were conveyed in the credits.

The fighting sequences were well choreographed, and did not dissapoint. Comedian's was particularly well done, and I really liked seeing Rocharch's after he jumped out of the building. I kinda felt gypped in the graphic novel that he twisted his ankle and couldn't fight.

Over all I loved this movie. Rocharch was well cast and portrayed. Dr Manhattan was unsettling to see (big blue dong not withstanding). Night Owl II's costume was cool, and so were Silk Spectre II's boobs and butt!

And I don't care what the critics say. Most of the time, they are wrong about movies I would like, anyways.

I'll be getting this on DVD when it comes out!

Well, I can say I thought the movie was very well done. There were deviations from the original story (Why introduce an "alien invasion" when there's a big blue "cancer causing" guy right in front of you to hate?), but it was faithful to it as well (Rocharch's transformation was spot on).

I did like the musical choices (Sound of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel for Comedian's funeral was spot on.), and I liked how the back story of the original Watchmen members were conveyed in the credits.

The fighting sequences were well choreographed, and did not dissapoint. Comedian's was particularly well done, and I really liked seeing Rocharch's after he jumped out of the building. I kinda felt gypped in the graphic novel that he twisted his ankle and couldn't fight.

Over all I loved this movie. Rocharch was well cast and portrayed. Dr Manhattan was unsettling to see (big blue dong not withstanding). Night Owl II's costume was cool, and so were Silk Spectre II's boobs and butt!

And I don't care what the critics say. Most of the time, they are wrong about movies I would like, anyways.

I'll be getting this on DVD when it comes out!

Which will be a line uttered only by those that were fans of the graphic series. It most certainly was not well received by myself, an old comic geek, or the masses.

I am glad the hype that's been going on for over a year is coming to an end. Bury this one , too bad Mystery Science theater is gone or they'd have a hayday with this one.....and it'd be better than this pos!

It's eye candy for nerds, who can then jerk off over feeling oh so erudite because they picked up on some of the glaringly obvious symbolism in between their beloved SUPER MEGA GOKU HERO POWER DESTRUCTION TIME!!! and latex-clad whores.

Now that was funny!

Which will be a line uttered only by those that were fans of the graphic series. It most certainly was not well received by myself, an old comic geek, or the masses.

I am glad the hype that's been going on for over a year is coming to an end. Bury this one , too bad Mystery Science theater is gone or they'd have a hayday with this one.....and it'd be better than this pos!


I've talked to a few folks today who saw it and have not read teh comic and really enjoyed the movie. So I think it's just opion, I haven't watched it yet but will soon hopefully. Lots of women loved the blue man cock haha.

Ok, before I begin, I never read the comic and went into the film knowing virtually nothing about it's story. That said...

I didn't like it. It wasn't the film that I didn't like, per se, it was the story (though there were parts of the film I didn't like).

Don't get me wrong, I understood the story and it's message. I think the main thing that killed it for me was Roshack (yeah, I know that is spelled wrong). I loved the character, the actor, his story. Everyone else was so-so at best. The way he was killed off didn't sit well with me. Yes, I know in the end he "wins" when his journal is published, but that doesn't make his execution any more justifiable in my mind.

As to the film: it was way more graphic than it needed to be. Now, I'm no prude... But I'm also not a fan of gore. If it doesn't need to be shown I'd rather not see it. Also, it really cheapened the scenes that were supposed to have had shock value.

I was underwhelmed.

Really, I just went to see it today so I could read this thread without you people spoiling it for me. So, in a way, I blame you all for my boring afternoon watching a big, blue, floating dong.

Like that's not what you were gonna do anyway Sanchek ; p

I mean really when I watch movies with tits in them I don't feel compelled to stare/gawk/ or even mention they were there. Does teh dong really bother you guys that much?

Do you guys feel..... exploited? /giggle

I did not read the comic and I enjoyed it as did several others I talked too. Silk specter and Night owl were stiff and bad. But not enough to ruin the movie for me. The comedian and Ror were fantastic.

Also the whole Dark Knight returns stuff was written at pretty much the same time as the Watchmen. Both were 1986. It is pretty much the same movie as the The dark knight really. Only the Dark Knight had a good joker and gordon, and crappy everyone else. This had a good Ror, Comedian and bland everyone else.

Oh yeah and no one slammed anyone for not liking it. Someone got slammed for saying they didn't understand it how ever.

I mean really when I watch movies with tits in them I don't feel compelled to stare/gawk/ or even mention they were there. Does teh dong really bother you guys that much?

How often do you see one of the female leads rolling around spread eagle for 5% of the movie? That would be a better comparison.

Maybe if the movie weren't so boring, the glowing smurf-dick wouldn't have been so distracting.

How often do you see one of the female leads rolling around spread eagle for 5% of the movie? That would be a better comparison.

Maybe if the movie weren't so boring, the glowing smurf-dick wouldn't have been so distracting.

I still cant believe I never noticed it once. Must have blue dong auto blockage.

I still cant believe I never noticed it once. Must have blue dong auto blockage.

LMAO man $$

Maybe if the movie weren't so boring, the glowing smurf-dick wouldn't have been so distracting.

Bingo. Although the first couple of times I saw the full frontal Dr. Manhattan, I was thinking 'hey, props to them for getting away with putting full *male* frontal nudity in the film', I'd have to agree it just felt gratuitous after a while, much like a lot of the other excesses in the film...

Even though the movie stayed more or less true to the pacing of comic series, it *felt* like too much time was spent on Dr. Manhattan and the Comedian's backstories (the Comedian having not actually been *in* the series except by reference at the beginning), as well as Rorschach's psycho prison adventures, not enough time spent on Ozymandias' backstory (you really were given a sense of what a celebrity he was in the print series, and how powerful, early on), and Nite Owl's backstory was just horribly mismanaged - he came off more pathetic than he was in the series, instead of being merely an idealistic throwback to the old golden age gadgeteer (the ship, however, was perfect). Also, Silk Spectre 2, though younger than the Dr. Manhattan generation, was supposed to be a peer of Nite Owl II and Rorschach - in other words, in her mid 30s by the time of the events in the story, by that time a long-time companion of Dr. Manhattan, and hardly an ingenue.

The film, on the whole, seemed to suffer primarily from a severe case of Lucasism(tm); where the *appearance* of the characters and scenes trump everything else, crushing the life out of the actors and creating a visually gorgeous but soulless and tedious product. This is one case where you actually *wish* a Hollywood type would have taken a hatchet to it and created something perhaps less (cough) profound, but more watchable, Watchmen - either that or it should have been broken into a series in order to allow for proper backstory and character development.

Regards,
Nydia

In my opinion the Ozmandias screw up was the biggest problem with the film. Wish he had been developed a bit more. Though I did like all the subtle Egyptian Nazi stuff.

lol i cant beleive i am saying this, if Silk Spectres tits were hanging out all movie, no one would of cared, if here vag was explosed...again people would of been happier.

Its not like they ever focused on it, its just how he was, he was beyond human thinking to care about modesty. Just the way his "super suit" was.

Cracks me up most people who didnt like the movie all the commented on was Owl looked like batman and the blue dong.

Cracks me up that you think that's all there is to our displeasure to the movie.

It reeked, it was faithful but it's proof positive that not all books should automatically be made into movies.

I'm thinking we have a bunch of meat gazers on the board here....

Because after I noted that Dr. Manhattan was naked, my eyes never strayed below his waist again, other than to note he was wearing that Godawful thong in Vietnam.

Just sayin....

Ron White, on Sixee:

iSnNHUaNR_8

San I think that clip is more about you. Like I said, I didn't bother to look beyond the first time. You were the one commenting about the movie being so "boring", all you had to look at was a big blue dong. There were lots of other things to focus on in the movie beyond Dr Manhattan's full monty....

That made... no sense.

Insecure males = amusing

I noticed you skipped right over my pointing out your anatomical mismatch!

/agrees with Fildien

Yeah, if only we could all be so open minded as you...


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Ok I jhave never heard of the Watchmen... Do you get to see an equal amount of rubber suit chicks tits? If not then I'm not going to bother and see it. Looked silly as hell.. Unless, of course, said titties are worth the price.

Nude Malin Ackerman fails to disappoint.

On the other hand, of all the objections I've seen about Watchmen, "Silly" is never mentioned. Bad pacing, confusing plot, flat payoff, gratuitous violence and sex, sure, but not silly.

Having never read the graphic novels, I went into it with only a basic idea of who the characters were. That said, I feel like this movie needed some touch-up work. For starters, I thought the whole idea was that the only person with 'real' superpowers was Dr. Manhattan. So how in the world could Nite Owl II and Silk Specter II just rip up on gangsters all night long without showing any signs of exertion? Nite Owl looked like an overweight, out of shape Clark Kent. Sure he's probably trained and all that, but I at least thought he'd be out of breath or something after kicking somebody's leg apart.

I also was sort of dismayed that Ozymandias had maybe...4 scenes the entire movie. I really enjoyed what I saw of his character, and it bothered me that I didn't get to see him hardly at all. Plus the final scene made him seem like a complete jackass, when I he didn't really seem like the type.

Overall, I had fun with the movie, but I definitely wouldn't call it awesome. Rorschack was an amazing character, Dr. Manhattan was pretty good, the Comedian was good but I didn't see enough of him, the rest were kinda...meh. Ozymandias was decent as well. I'm sure if I'd read the comics some of the stuff would make more sense to me.

Having never read the graphic novels, I went into it with only a basic idea of who the characters were. That said, I feel like this movie needed some touch-up work. For starters, I thought the whole idea was that the only person with 'real' superpowers was Dr. Manhattan. So how in the world could Nite Owl II and Silk Specter II just rip up on gangsters all night long without showing any signs of exertion? Nite Owl looked like an overweight, out of shape Clark Kent. Sure he's probably trained and all that, but I at least thought he'd be out of breath or something after kicking somebody's leg apart.

I also was sort of dismayed that Ozymandias had maybe...4 scenes the entire movie. I really enjoyed what I saw of his character, and it bothered me that I didn't get to see him hardly at all. Plus the final scene made him seem like a complete jackass, when I he didn't really seem like the type.

Overall, I had fun with the movie, but I definitely wouldn't call it awesome. Rorschack was an amazing character, Dr. Manhattan was pretty good, the Comedian was good but I didn't see enough of him, the rest were kinda...meh. Ozymandias was decent as well. I'm sure if I'd read the comics some of the stuff would make more sense to me.

All of your complaints are summed up by saying that this movie was a very close adaptation of the comic. Ozymandias's power of being "the smartest man in the world" and Night Owl's technology are "super powers" just not entirely super. They still could kick some ass being trained melee fighters. Ozy for example knew what they were thinking so he could dodge attacks before his opponents even knew they were making them. They weren't out of breath in the comic, hence not being out of breath in the movie.

Ozy's incredible brain realized that without some external entity to fear, mankind would rip itself apart. He wasn't a jackass, he just lost his humanity through his overwhelming intellect. Its basically the same story as I. Robot.

I think to truly appreciate the film you probably needed to read the comic beforehand. But I'd say ditto for X-Men and Batman and Transformers and so forth ... knowing the story behind the story lets you in on all the inside jokes and gets you excited about the world before you even see it.

My current review, after further reflection, is that there were too many shocks that drowned out the points the movie was actually trying to make. The legitimate violent shocks of the attempted rape, the inmate getting fried in the lunch line, and Ozzy catching the bullet were overshadowed and rendered less important by the visible bones of nite owl and silk spectre's victims, Dr. Manhattan's victims going splat, and the wire work fighting in the prison riot. Rorchack's joke had no business wasting precious minutes with repeat footage, and the funeral and sex scenes could have easily cut 10 seconds each, as could the swinging door to the restroom. Manhattan could have easily gone Blue Dongless.

Silk Spectre figuring out who her father was was insufficiently set up as her post "Watchman" meeting with the Comedian should have happened during the funeral sequence with the rest of them. Having Manhattan tell her about it made the fact that it shocked him into caring make no sense and unclear as to it's importance.

Keeping Bubastis in when the squid was out made no sense. Leaving out Ozzy's line questioning whether his anti Manhattan tricks would even work further failed to show what ginormous brass balls he had.

Oh, and giving Manhattan's final Line to Silk Specter in favor of the fading kiss shot was a lame choice.

Those are, in my opinion, the legitimate criticisms directly aimed at the director's choices.

Aside from those, I loved it! :)

Ozy's incredible brain realized that without some external entity to fear, mankind would rip itself apart. He wasn't a jackass, he just lost his humanity through his overwhelming intellect. Its basically the same story as I. Robot.




Agreed about the external thing to target humanity's fears at. But the line where he was like "your only legacy Dan was failing to save humanity from itself" just seemed out of character for him, from what little I saw. I was on board with the idea that he wanted to save humanity and was willing to do anything to get to that, but he didn't really seem like the type to be a jackass about it to other people trying to help.

That was the thing about Ozy, he was vert goal-oriented. While coming across as an jackass, he was working under the constraint of the "countdown to nuclear midnight". He needed to galvanize humanity, quickly, and didn't have time to deal with those he saw as part of the problem keeping him from his goal.

Rocharch might have summed up how Ozy was feeling when he said "This city is dying of rabies. Is the best I can do to wipe random flecks of foam from its lips?" but on a global scale.

I finally saw this having never read the graphic novels... I frackin loved it.

I loved Rocharch and the entire movie was great. I can see where it wouldn't pass the test for an oscar or the best acting. I just don't care about all that when I am watching a great movie!

I purchase most movies with special effects and am currently building a Blue Ray library.

I won't be purchasing this pos as it was poorly directed and very uneven.

Hell it dropped almost 70% in ticket sales from week 1 to week 2.

Awful movie sadly ;(

I'll admit to not having much in the way of expectations, I mean, it was a comic book movie; While it did drag at parts and the whole Niteowl/Spectre sex thing was flaccid and comedic in a bad way, the only thing that actively bothered me was the ham-handed musical choices.

I can see why a lot of people got turned off by the largely pointless gore.