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Kelraz Bladesinger
02-12-2006, 07:05 PM
... wonder what he'll do to their enemies!

Rover
02-12-2006, 07:19 PM
tap their phones and read their emails.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-12-2006, 08:17 PM
Well, we at least know what he was willing to do with America's enemies before he got dubya to bring him on board........

.......why, he circumvented the laws so he could do business with the enemy and line his pockets, and will some day hopefully have to answer for his role in Iran's current activities.

Too bad tonight's 60 Minutes segment on War Profiteers could not have spent more time on how contracts were awarded and conflicts of interest.

Cloudwalker21
02-12-2006, 08:25 PM
Keep your friends in the morgue after you shoot them in the face, and your enemies even closer to feed you cash behind everyone else's backs?

akipt
02-12-2006, 08:45 PM
I'd rather hunt with Dick cheney than ride in a car with Ted Kennedy.

Taleren Bloodsong
02-12-2006, 09:32 PM
HAHAHA akipt

Taleren Bloodsong
02-12-2006, 09:35 PM
Bobby Knight and Dick Cheney should go hunting together, that would be something very interesting to video tape.

Kelraz Bladesinger
02-12-2006, 10:01 PM
Well thankfully Ted Kennedy has a driver.

Thormir
02-13-2006, 12:02 AM
Must admit, that was pretty funny.

Lleauric
02-13-2006, 05:37 AM
I so wish that retard would retire. He takes the fun out of everything.

Ibudin
02-13-2006, 06:28 AM
Hey at least it was a lawyer he shot.

Malse
02-13-2006, 08:52 AM
I for one am glad to know the press is still on top of Celebrity Politics. This event clearly changes the American political landscape and effects all our lives in ways we won't fully understand in years.

It's a real bummer Israel and Iran want to nuke each other, but thankfully no one was killed on yet another executive vacation from the White House.

Rover
02-13-2006, 11:17 AM
Since the days of Aaron Burr, under our constitution, the Vice President has the implied authority to shoot whomever the hell he pleases. In point of fact, had Burr foregone the formalities of "choice of pistols," "choice of position" etc. and simply started blasting anything that moved in Weehawken, he would have been legally justified in doing so.


In a time of war, it would be inappropriate to comment further on how and under what circumstances a 78-year-old man underwent a minor pellet infusion. Suffice it to say that I am well, and was able to enjoy dinner following the alleged incident.

As I dedicated my formative years to acquiring draft deferments, copulating fortuitously to produce my firstborn nine months and two days after the Selective Service eliminated special protections for childless married men, I remain dedicated in my adult life to personal gain from the sacrifice of others.

Let all Americans never forget that an open field is a dangerous place, teeming with biological agents. And let us resolve never to surrender in the face of that which we imagine to be real.

Now go fuck yourselves.





Note: This is a joke and should not be taken seriously by members of either party.

Gandaar
02-13-2006, 12:11 PM
copulating fortuitously

Mrs. Cheney vehemently denies that any fortuitous copulation occurred. She did however mention that "spanking the monkey" and "slapping the little Nazi" was very popular in those days.

Ibudin
02-13-2006, 02:51 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/cbuckett/CHENEY_HUNTING_ACCIDENT.jpg
"I'm gonna DaffY Duck your ass!"

Taleren Bloodsong
02-13-2006, 04:14 PM
Yup Clinton shot someone in the face too, albeit with something much less deadly.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-13-2006, 04:32 PM
Yup Clinton shot someone in the face too, albeit with something much less deadly.

OMG, thanks for the Dr. Pepper covered keyboard.:p

fildien
02-13-2006, 05:29 PM
Yup Clinton shot someone in the face too, albeit with something much less deadly.


haha

Lleauric
02-13-2006, 06:56 PM
Maybe if Cheney didnt take 8 military deferments he could have learned to shoot

Kelraz Bladesinger
02-13-2006, 07:44 PM
Zing!

akipt
02-13-2006, 09:40 PM
DAMN IT! I coulda made $$$

http://www.cafepress.com/huntwithcheney.47628082

http://prodtn.cafepress.com/2/47628082_F_tn.jpg

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-13-2006, 10:26 PM
LOL, figures someone would find a fast way to make a buck off this

Taleren Bloodsong
02-13-2006, 10:50 PM
Maybe I should make my quote into a bumper sticker hmmmm, good idea.

akipt
02-14-2006, 06:54 AM
http://lucianne.com/routine/images/02-14-06.jpg

Lleauric
02-14-2006, 09:02 AM
WaPost had a good article today about the incident. A hunter describes the mistakes that Cheney made and why they were so egregious.

He says that the core rule of hunting is to look beyond the shot. The writer never mention Iraq, but it does make a perfect metaphor.

Cheney never looked past the shot, he just fired at the target and forgot the consequences. As a result, something really bad happened. It isnt so hard to paint Mr. Cheney as an arrogant, careless man who does not weigh the after effects of his actions, either in private or professionally.

Ibudin
02-14-2006, 09:07 AM
From my understanding he also, heard a bird get up, TURNED around and shot. I am an avid hunter of over 20 years...you certianly don't turn around and shoot..you always focus on whats out in front of you when hunting with a group of people. You always always know whos on your side and always call out to one another whether with whistles or yelling.

Fandros
02-14-2006, 09:34 AM
Hmmmm so much like driving perhaps after a certain age they should have to retake the hunters safety course on a regular basis. heh

Fandros

Rover
02-14-2006, 10:52 AM
Cheney never looked past the shot, he just fired at the target and forgot the consequences. As a result, something really bad happened. It isnt so hard to paint Mr. Cheney as an arrogant, careless man who does not weigh the after effects of his actions, either in private or professionally.



Note: He failed to have the required upland bird stamp for quail hunting. Thats pretty arrogant as any avid hunter would know what stamps are required in addition to the regular hunting license. Blatantly or technically Cheney did break the law.

Fandros
02-14-2006, 11:14 AM
A small law somewhat akin to Jay walking. Hell if we persecuted every politician for breaking laws we'd have none left to debate about!

Hunting, murder, lying, adultry, dui's , bribery....lions tigers and bears ...oh my

Fandros

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-14-2006, 04:23 PM
This morning at the timeclock waiting to punch in, the topic was of course Cheney's atrocious hunting habits (turning to shoot is a no-no), and someone mentioned what if the Senator has a heart attack now while in the hospital....

would Cheney be considered criminally negligent?

And now, they are reporting on Fox news (lunch hour time) that he did in fact suffer a mild heart attack when BIRDSHOT worked it's way into the heart. He is being more closely watched to try to ensure no other pellets get to any organs, but they are not planning to remove the pellets at this time.

Hmmm, if he had not been shot by a careless hunter there would not have been any birdshot to work it's way to the heart, sooooooo, is Cheney criminally negligent?

Nanora
02-14-2006, 04:36 PM
Yes, but he Pres will probably pardon him. Which would be unfortunate. If I were to do something this stupid you think I'd get any help from the government??

He probably hasn't even taken a hunters saftey course.

Kelraz Bladesinger
02-14-2006, 05:20 PM
So what happens if the dude dies from the various heart issues he's having. Is Cheney held responsible at all?

Nanora
02-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Should be. It was his irresponsibility that caused the death. Unless death happens due to something else other than the shot or after effects of the shot.

Moglor
02-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Cover up?

Ibudin
02-15-2006, 08:26 AM
Well it was an accidental shooting...he won't get anything.

Although some say he was 90 yards away ....hate to say it but take a shotgun with birdshot and shoot at large piece of cardboard. You will be lucky if even one piece of shot even hits that cardboard. To hit someone in the face and the heart..with enough force to get a piece of shot to the heart..one would think with the spray pattern...you would need to be with in 20 feet of the person.

akipt
02-15-2006, 10:15 AM
The official report...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney1.html

Gulor Gularin
02-15-2006, 01:14 PM
I'm pretty sure he had to be closer than 90 yards away. I've been hit with birdshot from about that distance before and it barely broke skin.

Look on the bright side.... I seriously doubt that Cheney can be considered as a Republican candidate for 2008 now.

*edit* I see the report states the range as 30 yards.

Ailwon
02-15-2006, 01:16 PM
The Bush administration should be elated...finally someone in the administration that has combat experience!!! j/k

akipt
02-15-2006, 01:22 PM
I believe it was reported that he was 90 feet away, not yards. The report gives a range of 10-50 yards if I remember correctly... which for a 28 gauge bird shot is about right. Another 10 yards and we wouldn't have heard anything about this.

And I really don't think Cheney ever was seriously considering a run for president.

And Ailwon, you smartass :p

Ibudin
02-15-2006, 01:25 PM
Said 30 yards so 90 feet....sounds about right with the damage taken by his hunting buddy.

akipt
02-15-2006, 01:34 PM
Cheney on Foxnews tonight, 6pm. He's responsible for pulling that trigger, so I want to see some heart felt non-smirking from him.

Blearchie
02-15-2006, 01:44 PM
if he had not been shot by a careless hunter there would not have been any birdshot to work it's way to the heart, sooooooo, is Cheney criminally negligent?

Obviously we should blame the gun manufacturer! :p Were there sufficient warning labels? :p

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-15-2006, 04:24 PM
The Bush administration should be elated...finally someone in the administration that has combat experience!!! j/k

:p Best comment yet about this, although Jon Stewart has had me rolling with his take on it too.

Ibudin
02-15-2006, 06:38 PM
Saw Chaney on Fox news...he looked pretty damn sorry about what happened. Was a horrible accident.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-15-2006, 08:12 PM
John Gibson was reading some of the e-mails that have come in on this story, and one mentioned that it is an automatic test for alcohol in the blood when there is a firearms related hunting accident, and wondered if Cheney had been tested.

Naturally, this was not replied to and passed over rather quickly.

Makes one wonder tho if a couple good ole boys out hunting bird might have had a snort or two.

Sanchek
02-15-2006, 08:46 PM
Cheney said he had had a beer at lunch that day but nobody was drinking when they went back out to hunt a couple hours later. Law enforcement officials have ruled out alcohol as a factor.
You guys are getting silly. It was an accident that had nothing to do with anything, yet it's apparently more interesting news than anything else they can dredge up to sensationalize lately.

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-15-2006, 11:44 PM
You guys are getting silly. It was an accident that had nothing to do with anything, yet it's apparently more interesting news than anything else they can dredge up to sensationalize lately.

Nah, Sanchek, I don't think anything about this is silly. A man was shot, and has subsequently suffered a minor heart attack as a result.

What I am looking at is the time lapse in reporting this to authorities; the complete failure to observe basic hunting safety practices; and the automatic attempt to spin this into being the victim's fault. At least Cheney himself stated in his interview with Brit Phoom/Phlegm/Hume whatever (Fox talking head) that he was at fault as the person firing the weapon.

If it had been handled a bit cleaner, it would no longer be much of an issue with anyone other than the talk show comics.

Sanchek
02-16-2006, 12:05 AM
I'm sure any of that might be relevant if you were the particular gun safety officials with jurisdiction in the matter. If not, this whole thread is just you guys buying into some pretty sad sensationalist journalism.

Bise
02-16-2006, 08:24 AM
While an unfortuate accident, this is hardly a big deal. Wasn't the guy he shot like 85 years old? I guess if he dies before he hits 100 they are going to try and pin a murder on Chaney....

When does football season start again?

Ibudin
02-16-2006, 11:04 AM
Do you think too much is being made of the Dick Cheney hunting accident?
Yes (65.3%)
No (34.7%)
Total votes: 4,739
Note: These polls aren't based on any scientific sampling and they don't have margins of error. They are what they are - the opinions of those readers who choose to click and answer the question. We hope they are entertaining and maybe a bit enlightening.

Sanchek
02-16-2006, 11:32 AM
Do you think too much is being made of the Dick Cheney hunting accident?
Yes (65.3%)
No (34.7%)
Total votes: 4,739

Where can I go to vote on that?

Ibudin
02-16-2006, 11:44 AM
www.jsonline.com

Thormir
02-16-2006, 01:24 PM
It only becomes particularly interesting if a) the victim dies; and/or b) it's shown that alcohol played a role. Cheney did mention having a beer, and Cheney is on some cocktail of medications for his heart (and whatever else).

As it stands, there are far more important issues surrounding Cheney than this. But for the hunters out there, what is the standard result of an accidental shooting? Does the shooter face jail time? Fines? A stern lecture? Just curious.

Bise
02-16-2006, 04:17 PM
Cheney hunting accident?
Yes (65.9%)
No (34.1%)


These were the numbers after I voted....

Bylimet Spiritwalker
02-16-2006, 08:38 PM
On a side note, if it had been Gore who had been hunting, and he had spun around to shoot a flushed bird and wounded a hunting companion, we would not have even seen a thread, let alone all these posts regarding the incident.

And, the country really is not polarized, but everyone works together well in a forward thinking movement to educate our children, provide health care for our citizens, and keep our country free of debt on the world financial stage.

Bise
02-17-2006, 03:12 PM
I can't believe no chatter about the man shot by Cheney.... He survived!!!! what a miracle!!!!

To bad for the libs...