http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5187276.stm

- '"The irony is, what they really need to do is to get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit, and it's over," Mr Bush was heard to say. '

:D :D :D

And they said Cowboy Diplomacy was dead.

OMG you mean the President uses curse words?!?!! I'm telling his daddy. Good for him and I bet most people agree with him, it's not like he said an untruth. In fact, I'm happy it's being plastered all over the papers :)

Read about this on a few other reports.

Wth is the big deal? Not enough going on in the ME without making a big fuss out of our Pres saying...shit? omg we're all going to hell!!!

Flip back to your page 3 girl Halo, she's far more interesting!!!

Fandros

What is wrong with the man saying "shit" to Mr. Blair? I say "shit" to my friends all the time, and we've at least been led to believe that the men are on very cordial terms with each other. I 'might' be bothered if he said 'shit' when he was all mic'ed up infront of a press corps, but this was during a casual conversation that was believed to not be recorded.

I am not a fan of Bush, everyone here knows and I probably didn't even need to reiterate that point. This being news is just grasping at straws of a pointless non-issue.

Well, that was pretty shitty....

:P

Wow..

I agree with Bush on something..

Wow..

I agree with Bush on something..

LOL...me too

...to add my two cents. I agree with him and don't give a shit what language he uses in private conversations.

I actually thought it was quite funny. Rather Churchillian, in its charming way.
Blair hunched over him, Bush chewing and slouched.
Though I am always suprised at people who find the fuss itself suprising. At a conference, leaders are diplomats, and there is a diplomatic language you usually use.

Just hate it when people act dumb at these things. WHATS R ROIGN WITH THAT?!?!1

I just wish Bush would have challenged Assad to a cage match or sumfin... that would have rocked!!!

I don't know if this is the appropriate thread to mention this but I see where the buzz is to send in peace keepers..... that would be disastrous.... and totally ineffective. I don't think anything will keep Isreal from finishing up its objectives. I honestly don't think it will take them much longer to achieve 90% of what they want to do....what ever that is.

Oh and I want to add in here that Egypt and Saudi Arabia seem to be growning tired of Syria also. If Syria is your main ally in a war then you are screwed if your opponent is Isreal.

At a conference, leaders are diplomats, and there is a diplomatic language you usually use.

This wasn't at a negotiating table but rather a casual conversation between two men that have spoken on many occasions. I would bet that many of their conversations are fairly casual in manner, even about important topics. I 'might' see bigger importance to him saying 'shit' to the rest of the G8 conferance, but I can't believe all the major news outlets are reporting that this is some big deal. It's on CNN and Foxnews, so it doesn't even seem to be that partisan of an issue here. I think people are just too uptight in general recently.

Though I can't believe his parents didnt' teach him to chew with his mouth closed and not talk with food in his mouth.

I bet Laura washes his mouth out with soap and sends him to the corner when he gets home.:p

I bet he's hoping more for a spanking.

Full transcript. An...interesting insight in to the leaders of the free world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5188258.stm

'A full transcript of the off-the-cuff conversation between US President George W Bush and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair during a break at the G8 conference in Russia.
The president was caught on tape using an expletive as he described the actions of Hezbollah in attacking Israel.



The two men start by discussing an exchange of gifts:





Bush: And thanks for the sweaters - I know you picked em out yourself...

Blair: Oh yes absolutely - in fact I knitted it!!!

(laughter)

Bush: What about Kofi Annan - he seems alright. I don't like his ceasefire plan. His attitude is basically ceasefire and everything sorts out.... But I think...

Blair: Yeah the only thing I think is really difficult is that we can't stop this without getting international presence agreed. I think what you guys have talked about which is the criticism of the [inaudible word). I am perfectly happy to try and see what the lie of the land is, but you need that done quickly because otherwise it will spiral.

Bush: Yeah I think Condi's [US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice) gonna go soon.

Blair: Well that's all that matters but if you... You see at least it gets it going.

Bush: I agree it's a process...I told her your offer too.

Blair: Well it's only if she needs the ground prepared as it were. If she goes out she HAS to succeed whereas I can just go and...

Bush: You see the irony is what they need to is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's all over...

Blair: Dunno... Syria....

Bush: Why?

Blair: Because I think this is all part of the same thing...

Bush: (with mouth full of bread) Yeah

Blair: Look - what does he think? He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine. If you get a solution in Israel and Palestine. Iraq goes in the right way

Bush: Yeah - he's [indistinct]

Blair: Yeah.... He's had it. That's what all this is about - it's the same with Iran

Bush: I felt like telling Kofi to call, to get on the phone to Assad and make something happen.

Blair: Yeah BUSH: [indistinct] blaming Israel and [indistinct] blaming the Lebanese government.... '

Blair: Look - what does he think? He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine. If you get a solution in Israel and Palestine. Iraq goes in the right way

Who is "he"? Assad? Olmert? Cheney? Annan?

confusing

I thought Annan? Seemed to be whom they were talking about in that context.

It is confusing.. but greatly insightful.

Here is the clarification on the transcript..... it makes more sense now.
************************************************** *****

Bush: And thanks for the sweaters - I know you picked em out yourself...

Blair: Oh yes absolutely - in fact I knitted it!!!

(laughter)

Bush: What about [HaloChanter] - he seems alright. I don't like his ceasefire plan. His attitude is basically ceasefire and everything sorts out.... But I think...

Blair: Yeah the only thing I think is really difficult is that we can't stop this without getting international presence agreed. I think what you guys have talked about which is the criticism of the [Log Cabin Rebulicans]. I am perfectly happy to try and see what the lie of the land is, but you need that done quickly because otherwise it will spiral. Brokeback and all.

Bush: Yeah I think Condi's [the next NFL commish] gonna go soon.

Blair: Well that's all that matters but if you... You see at least it gets it going.

Bush: I agree it's a process...I told her your offer too [reference to trade T.O. to Syria].

Blair: Well it's only if she needs the ground prepared as it were. If she goes out she HAS to succeed whereas I can just go and... [pretend like I was talking about soccer]

Bush: You see the irony is what they need to is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's all over... [but first let's let Isreal kick the shit out somebody]

Blair: Dunno... Syria....

Bush: Why?

Blair: Because I think this is all part of the same thing...

Bush: (with mouth full of bread) Yeah [T-man, you gunna eat that?]

Blair: Look - what does he think? He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine. If you get a solution in Israel and Palestine. Iraq goes in the right way

Bush: Yeah - he's [a pussy and that is why Philly traded him]

Blair: Yeah.... He's had it. That's what all this is about - it's the same with Iran

Bush: I felt like telling Kofi to call, to get on the phone to Assad and make something happen. [but his number is unlisted now and I don't know how to get it]

Blair: Yeah BUSH: [Revellie] blaming Israel and [Rover] blaming the Lebanese government.... '

Makes as much sense as any :P

The MSNBC article translating it had Bush saying "Yo, Blair!" as Blair walked off. It cracked me up.

When I am talking about something I really dont care about I use proper language. When I am super fired up about something, I start swearing. At least this tells me that Bush is probably actually interested in this issue and is at least partially fired up.

I really do hate Bush, but if the republicans can get thier spending in order and really kick the shit out of our real enemies (hamas, hezbolla, iran, syria) and stop fucking around with non enemies, then I will probably vote red in 06/08.

then I will probably vote red in 06/08.

Better dead than red!!!!

Better dead than red!!!!

So you really aren't a Communist?

:rolleyes:

I really do hate Bush, but if the republicans can get thier spending in order and really kick the shit out of our real enemies (hamas, hezbolla, iran, syria) and stop fucking around with non enemies, then I will probably vote red in 06/08.



Better be careful Phel.. or the Liberals will scorn you like they have Liberman. Hell.. the guy votes 90% of the time in thier favor and they are still trying to kick him out. Soros/Moore in 08!

Not allowed to have primaries anymore Shanno?

The NERVE of those Democrats, practicing Democracy and all that. Liberman should be unopposed in every primary until he keels over dead or retires. I am shocked, SHOCKED, that an incumbant has to actually work in a primary election. Those stupid radical moonbat Dems and that witchhunt they call "Democratic Process"

Don't know that he was knocking the democratic process as much as he was knocking the party for attempting to remove someone from the party that actually was bringing them into the Mainstream.

I'd prefer more Liebermans and McCains and less Kennedys ( evil incarnate ) and Karl Rovers /grin in the process

Fandros

Amen Fandros

Moderates never get the spotlight.
It's the frothing at the mouth, mad dogs that get all the attention.
We've confused volume with substance, for the most part. You don't have to have a solution, just scream at the top of your lungs how botched up the other side is, and you'll get votes.
That's the ticket....

Its a PRIMARY.

He has opposition.. Its part of the process. Now, I like Lieberman, I volunteered on a campaign for him long ago, and he will probably win. But he faces serious competition from a legitimate and worthwhile candidate in Lamont. And that is the way is SHOULD be... A republican will NEVER win that seat, ever. So when does Mr. Lieberman become accountable for his actions to the people he represents?

Lieberman has tilted more to the right than many people whom he represents are comfortable with. Especially on the war in Iraq. This is at least a check and reminder that he needs to reflect the values of the people of Connecticut.

This isnt an evil plot unfairly designed to destroy Lieberman, its the system working correctly and properly.
MORE Congressmen should face tough primaries. Once these guys get in office they return with a 95% frequency. Due to gerrymandering and the 2 party system and the fact that our national political parties have attempted to make incumbent primaries irrelevant, accountability has almost disappeared.

People should be celebrating this. It is a pure good.

Don't know that he was knocking the democratic process as much as he was knocking the party for attempting to remove someone from the party that actually was bringing them into the Mainstream.

I'd prefer more Liebermans and McCains and less Kennedys ( evil incarnate ) and Karl Rovers /grin in the process

Fandros

DAMMIT!

There he goes, posting my thoughts again:cool:

If the dems had some real strategy they would become the party of moderates, let the republicans go so far right that Santorum would look like he was a commie and let the left go to the green party. I bet there would be a mass movement of republicans to the dems while losing very few to the green party.

If the dems had some real strategy they would become the party of moderates.

Triangluation

http://www.lanl.gov/history/people/images/President%20Clinton%20L.jpg

It's all about the tie!

Truth be told, if there was not the Ken Starr tar and feather crusade launched by a few disgruntled republicans who were pissed at losing the White House, the legacy of the Clinton White house would be one of the better of our generation. He was in fact a very good president and statesman.

There are more people seeming to want to move to the center, understanding that the country will not survive if it goes either left or right. We need to be sheperded by a Moderate at this time in our nation's history; someone who has a firm grasp of both conservative values and liberal thinking and can find a way to blend the two to move us forward and protect the country in this time of global upheaval.



McCain/Lieberman in 2008:cool:

YOu should watch the video of this incident on CNN's website at the end of the video, Tony Blair sees that the microphone is on and turns it off after our president makes a fool of himself, the Damn Brits are trying to ruin us!

Lieberman has tilted more to the right than many people whom he represents are comfortable with. Especially on the war in Iraq. This is at least a check and reminder that he needs to reflect the values of the people of Connecticut.




Haa haa.. my point exactly. 90% overall he has voted democrat on issues, and that is not enough. For fuck sakes.. his own former presidential partner has come out against him. What you people in Connecticut do is you business, but when you have fellow Senators (many who he has campaigned for) out there saying they are not backing him... it is just disgraceful. Lieberman is one of the TRUE democrats that is slightly moderate.. not some fake like Hillary.

The Pin on Clinton's lapel, when magnified, says "Ask me about my willie."

:P

but when you have fellow Senators (many who he has campaigned for) out there saying they are not backing him...

Who?

All I know of is some senators said they will back whoever wins the nomination. Nobody has come out against Joe.

Talk about triangulation. L2 covers all his bases.:rolleyes:

The way it works is by not endorsing him.. you are saying that you are against him. Of course they will support whoever wins the DEMOCRATIC primary.. but they do not want see Lieberman win. I really do hope he loses.. then runs as a independant. One less official Democrat in the Senate when he wins.

Its a simple question.. Who? What senator or congressman has come out against Joe Lieberman?

Is there an actual person? Or is it just another smear attempt by the rights megaphones to repeat a lie often enough until it is accepted as fact?

No Senator has opposed Joe Lieberman. The only thing they have said is that they will support the Democratic canidiate that the primary produces..
What is the problem here?

The way it works is by not endorsing him.

See, perfect example, thats not what you said. So either you were being intentionally dishonest, or you have been successfully spun by the Republican rhetoric.
This is what you originally said
but when you have fellow Senators (many who he has campaigned for) out there saying they are not backing him.

But you retreat off the falsehood because you know an exposed lie is indefensible.

So lets deal with the horrible crime of Democrats not coming arunnin' to shout to the world how much they <3 Joe. Crimes of Omission I think they are called.
Wtf are they supposed to say? "WE HATE NED LAMONT!!!"
Ned Lamont has a real chance of winning. The people in Connecticut are pretty enthusiastic about the multi-millionaire who took time off from his company the last 5 years to volunteer in inner city public schools.
If Democrats were stupid enough to come out against Lamont in favor of Lieberman, and Lamont wins, then they are hamstringing him in the real election. Other Senators have to sit this out.

btw, Bill Clinton in Connecticut today to help Joe.

Having Bill Clinton campaign for you is almost as bad as having DailyKos do so isn't it?

Here's the real triangulation...

http://www.allaboutgeorge.com/gfx/capt.wxs10207311840.people_maher_moore_nader_wxs10 2.jpg

Oh and you're like one of the last people who should be saying...

But you retreat off the falsehood because you know an exposed lie is indefensible.

In that Pic, Joe doesn't know who she should slap harder, Bill or Mike.....

[QUOTE=akipt]Having Bill Clinton campaign for you is almost as bad as having DailyKos do so isn't it?[QUOTE]

Only if your idea of a great man is Pat Robertson.

Say what you will about his moral transgression, Bill Clinton was good president. Yes he had the advantage of being a Sitting President during a great economic time, but he did many things that were notable. budget surpluses for one. And yes I know he's a monster for not keeping is pecker in his pants. and yes i am a republican, middle of the road as they come.

Only if your idea of a great man is Pat Robertson.

I should have been more clear. How many candidates win after Bill campaigns for himself... err I mean for them? I think the track record is not very good.

That could simply be a result of Bill showing up to help an underdog or candidate in a very close race. It's not necessarily because Clinton is a liability on the campaign trail.

Oh and you're like one of the last people who should be saying...

Quote:
But you retreat off the falsehood because you know an exposed lie is indefensible.

Nice, another Ad Hom without factual backing...

In that Pic, Joe doesn't know who she should slap harder, Bill or Mike.....
Thats Ralph Nader.

Thats Ralph Nader.

Ack, I thought Joe looked a litte different....
LOL....

Here we go. The drunk Bush talking.
http://view.break.com/123866

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6291545907246428276&q=Bush+%2Bback+rub


lol tooo good

Hehe, that was a great job of editting......Bush really does appear drunk.;)

He sounded like me after a few Saki's at the local Jap Resturant :)