There must just be something horribly wrong with the political system that everyone who ends up at the top has some horrible skeletons.

I hate to wonder what Obama and McCain are hiding.

Since when did the National Enquirer become a credible news source? Oh thats right as soon as Fox news could use it to bash the Dems.

Sorry not gonna jump to any conclusions on this just yet.

Actually, I am really not bothered as much by the latest revelation of Edwards having a mistress. Considering his wife's health problems and the stress of being a rich lawyer with what must be scores of young ladies throwing themselves at him, this is not that bad, considering the scandals of some GOP elected officials over the past year.

Interesting how the Democrats are demonized for having sexual partners outside their marriages that happen to be female. :eek:

LOL if people base thier choice in candidates on fidelity... Well I just think most of the dirt hasn't settled yet in DC.

Considering John McCain's current wife was a mistress during his first marriage, its incredibly hypocritical for Fox to focus on this when they don't pay any attention to the fact about McCain.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

It's fox news and the National Enquirer.

Jesus christ people. Go to any grocery store and just look at the cover of one of these magazines.

I personally think the more newsworthy story was the three headed alien turtle that was born to the family in Otumwa Iowa.

Honestly, as the post shows there is really a true dumbing down of America, we have people going OMG John Edwards has a mistress...never mind the fact of all of the other ones in particular the ones who screamed family values and then end up in public bathrooms looking for blow jobs. There are reasons it is becoming known as "The Barbecue Media" Grill some food for reporters who ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NON PARTISAN and the next thing you know your opponent is getting vilified for something a 65 year old pastor said and you mean while can point out that the Iraq and Afghanistan border is a dangerous place and that the Sunni Awakening which happened two years before the surge was the result of the surge that had not happened yet and that gets page 9 insertion.

Honestly, I was expecting it to be a dude.... so at least he's not gay, because then he might have to take a wider stance on some issues...

Him and Elvis are taking Batboy to Atlantis to have breakfast with Bigfoot

he might have to take a wider stance

LOL...now that was great!

It's fox news and the National Enquirer.
Jesus christ people. Go to any grocery store and just look at the cover of one of these magazines.

I found out about it last night bowling from my friend who works at the Politico. They were all racing to break the story, those two just got it first.

I personally think the more newsworthy story was the three headed alien turtle that was born to the family in Otumwa Iowa.

Honestly, as the post shows there is really a true dumbing down of America, we have people going OMG John Edwards has a mistress...never mind the fact of all of the other ones in particular the ones who screamed family values and then end up in public bathrooms looking for blow jobs. There are reasons it is becoming known as "The Barbecue Media" Grill some food for reporters who ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NON PARTISAN and the next thing you know your opponent is getting vilified for something a 65 year old pastor said and you mean while can point out that the Iraq and Afghanistan border is a dangerous place and that the Sunni Awakening which happened two years before the surge was the result of the surge that had not happened yet and that gets page 9 insertion.

I've always had issues with the Republican "Gays are evil!" who then turn around and molest little boys or have sex with men in bathrooms or simply are closeted gays and think there's something wrong with it. Its not a X instead of Y. Its an X is disappointing, as is Y. I loved John Edwards and always thought he seemed very genuine and honest and he was my candidate. The problem is that to get as far along in politics as these guys do, there must be something wrong upstairs that pushes decent, honest people out of the race. Every politician from Bush to Clinton to McCain to Obama - I'm sure they're all guilty of it. Even Sanchek's Ron Paul probably has some skeletons that simply haven't come to light, I bet. Its like what Groucho Marx says, "I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member." I'm sure the people who genuinely would be amazing in politics simply don't want to be a part of that rat race, so we're permanently playing with the second string.

Did they cut corners to get there?

Seems like they went early on it.

Well, National Enquirer doesn't have any sort of standards that we know of. And Fox hasn't necessarily been afraid to publish things that aren't true. But we know that the mother was a videographer on the campaign and that there is plenty of video out there of her and the child. It won't take much longer for the rest of the media outlets to put the pieces together.

I'm sure they're all guilty of it.

Power = Sex, it's been going on since Bargrog back in the cave used the fact he was bigger and tougher to get his pick of the females.

But did Bargrog preach family values while having sex with that female while his beautiful wife was dying of cancer in the next room?

But did Bargrog preach family values while having sex with that female while his beautiful wife was dying of cancer in the next room?

I'm not saying I like this. I sure as hell hope he's not the vice presidential running mate after this. I still think it's hypocritical for Fox to make a big deal about this when they won't cover the fact that McCain did something very similar 30 years ago when his wife that waited 5 years for him when he was in a prison camp and when he came back she wasn't as pretty as she was when he left.

They won't, because Rupert Murdoch has too much to lose if McCain doesn't win the presidency, period. If anyone is stupid enough to think that Fox isn't biased ... well they probably aren't intelligent enough to find these forums let alone post on them.

Honestly, I was expecting it to be a dude.... so at least he's not gay, because then he might have to take a wider stance on some issues...

you totally win funniest comment of the week with this post!

Title of thread should be "Elizabeth Edwards ):"

Anyway, there's an eyewitness security guard to this encounter that almost all media outlets refuse to even take a look at.

If Edwards was a Republican, there would have been no hesitation to publish the .... what was it the Putinista called it? "Death by a thousand cuts" ? At least there is a witness to this one.

More of the same righteous indignation against the precious media baby while you hold so tight to its self-proclaimed relevence by way of impartiality. You're being had.

It's hilarious when the Enquirer has more credibility than the LA Times and NY Times too.

Akipt, you clearly miss the point. No one thinks Edwards having a mistress is a good thing, no one said there is no possibility that it is true.

Do you really think it's a liberal media thing? I'll go with it's a corporate media thing and it's decided that this will not garner ratings because no one but a few idiots give a shit.

On top of the fact that it is Fox News otherwise, now get this, affectionately known as "Faux News" due to the fact that they are nothing more than a mouth piece for the republican party which as it is known contains very few real conservatives.

And then we throw in the National Enquirer, which admittedly is a much more credible source than Fox, and their past history of three headed alien babies and the like well it just makes it more of a funny thing than anything else.

Title of thread should be "Elizabeth Edwards ):"

Anyway, there's an eyewitness security guard to this encounter that almost all media outlets refuse to even take a look at.

If Edwards was a Republican, there would have been no hesitation to publish the .... what was it the Putinista called it? "Death by a thousand cuts" ? At least there is a witness to this one.

More of the same righteous indignation against the precious media baby while you hold so tight to its self-proclaimed relevence by way of impartiality. You're being had.

It's hilarious when the Enquirer has more credibility than the LA Times and NY Times too.

Akipt, you're an ignoramus if you believe that.

Like I said, my friend at the Politico was chasing the story as well. But the problem with media outlets like LA Times, NY Times, and the Politico is ... they wait for the facts before publishing a story. Even Fox does, that's why it took them weeks after the Enquirer broke the story to follow it up. They got the security guard first, that's what we call an "exclusive". LA Times and NY Times didn't get to him first, hence they didn't write the story. They'll have their own sources and publish it when they prove it.

it's decided that this will not garner ratings because no one but a few idiots give a shit.Ratings? LMFAO. Two weeks ago Edwards by all media accounts was possibly Obama's VP pick. Stick your head in the sand a little further.

But the problem with media outlets like LA Times, NY Times, and the Politico is ... they wait for the facts before publishing a story LMAO. Sheeple much?

Ignoramus is too light. You're worse than that, if that's possible.

My friend, working for the Politico, a Republican, was chasing this story since his editor put the Enquirer piece on his desk. He was close, but Fox beat him. He wasn't going to post something without the facts because his editor wouldn't let him, and there's a thing called Libel. Clearly YOU, Akipt, know more about what rules a journalist needs to follow than ... a journalist.

WTF are you blathering about? I applaud Politico for chasing the story jackass.

My friend, working for the Politico, a Republican, was chasing this story since his editor put the Enquirer piece on his desk.

Your friend certainly is in the minority, nowdays. Most of the time it seems that newspapers run with the story, then print a 'correction' on page A-23 below the tide listings...

I tend to agree with the sentiment that there are good, qualified people that could do much good for this country, that refuse to have anything to do with public office because of the scrutiny of thier public lives.

Who cares if they are swingers? Who cares if they have a mistress? Who cares if they are as queer as Liberace? If they can do the job, more power to them.

WTF are you blathering about? I applaud Politico for chasing the story jackass.


Do you applaud them for chasing the story because it is Edwards? Or do you applaud them in a search for truth?

Do you applaud them for chasing the story because it is Edwards? Or do you applaud them in a search for truth?

Do you even care, or is this just another chance to toss a dig at Akipt?

I am tired of the double standard that is getting more and more pronounced here. The same folks complaining about my getting negative seem to have no trouble jumping to personal attacks, name-calling, etc. when their candidate or belief or whatever is challenged or not taken as gospel.

Why even ask those questions, or call Akipt an ignoramus, unless the purpose was indeed to provoke something? And if there is that need to provoke people, for crying out loud go to NAG and be up front with it.

It is getting so anyone not in the tight little circle, much like Malse alluded to in the rep thread, is being considered an enemy, based on the name calling and disrespect evidenced in the varied threads. I made something of a game of hassling jedd because I was tired of his persistent Iran-pep rallies, but at the same time I ackowledge him when I see something good and would probably enjoy sitting down over some ice tea and lunch to discuss points of view. What I am seeing from the Obama bunch is almost the pure despising of anyone not agreeing with you and your candidate, and I wonder if you have even listened to Obama and, if so, how are you so completely different from the man you support?

It will be interesting to see how Obama can bring any form of healing to the country when his "supporters" keep looking for ways to open the wounds.

Your friend certainly is in the minority, nowdays. Most of the time it seems that newspapers run with the story, then print a 'correction' on page A-23 below the tide listings...

I tend to agree with the sentiment that there are good, qualified people that could do much good for this country, that refuse to have anything to do with public office because of the scrutiny of thier public lives.

Who cares if they are swingers? Who cares if they have a mistress? Who cares if they are as queer as Liberace? If they can do the job, more power to them.

I don't think he is the minority, to be honest. Even this security guard source in this story could be lying. Ironically, since we're discussing the Politico, they had a reporter publish a story about Edwards that was later proven untrue a while ago. The reporter lost their job, the editor tightened up, and now we are where we are now. Keep an eye on the job listings after those retractions are posted, because each retraction comes with a heavy financial toll to the news organization.

Do you even care, or is this just another chance to toss a dig at Akipt?

I am tired of the double standard that is getting more and more pronounced here. The same folks complaining about my getting negative seem to have no trouble jumping to personal attacks, name-calling, etc. when their candidate or belief or whatever is challenged or not taken as gospel.

Why even ask those questions, or call Akipt an ignoramus, unless the purpose was indeed to provoke something? And if there is that need to provoke people, for crying out loud go to NAG and be up front with it.

It is getting so anyone not in the tight little circle, much like Malse alluded to in the rep thread, is being considered an enemy, based on the name calling and disrespect evidenced in the varied threads. I made something of a game of hassling jedd because I was tired of his persistent Iran-pep rallies, but at the same time I ackowledge him when I see something good and would probably enjoy sitting down over some ice tea and lunch to discuss points of view. What I am seeing from the Obama bunch is almost the pure despising of anyone not agreeing with you and your candidate, and I wonder if you have even listened to Obama and, if so, how are you so completely different from the man you support?

It will be interesting to see how Obama can bring any form of healing to the country when his "supporters" keep looking for ways to open the wounds.

I care, I don't need to take a dig at Akipt, we disagree politically but he stands his ground and I admire that. I don't see how my question can or should be construed as a personal attack, I thought it was a very legitimate question.

I wonder if you have even listened to Obama and, if so, how are you so completely different from the man you support?

I've listened extensively to Obama as I have listened to McCain, Clinton, Paul, Guilliani, Romney, Biden, Dodd etc...and I find two in there who are very acceptible to me.

One being Obama and the other being Paul.

If you care to hear why I like them and why I don't like McCain let me know and I'll post.

PS if you're tired, get some sleep.

But will you answer my question concerning Edwards?I have, you're just not paying attention or something.

In that unrealistic world without biased news organizations, I would applaud them for going after the story for reasons that should be obvious and more beneficial to you and your party than to me.

Why the issue with a straightforward answer? Either you welcome the report as it is a search for the truth or you welcome it because it's a gotcha thing. Which is it?

Update on the John Edwards ad nauseum, from the New York Daily News:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/13/2008-08-13_elizabeth_edwards_learned_of_johns_affai.html

I'm truly sorry for Elizabeth Edwards, and what a position to be in :/ - I really had hoped that this was a case where the affair had been a private and tacitly consensual issue between the Edwardses given her condition. Even so, I really hate that politics these days involves putting people's personal lives under the microscope with regard to that most private of issues, sexuality. Can you imagine if such things had kept either FDR (due to his life-long affair with Lucy Mercer, his secretary, despite the fact that Eleanor was devastated when she initially learned of it) or JFK (due to his numerous pecadillos) from office? What is served by airing people's hurtful dirty laundry, especially where no laws have been broken or *public* trust breached?

Statistically, over a lifetime, any given married individual is more likely to have an affair then not - is this part of a person's very, erm, *personal* sorting out and accomodation process really anyone else's business, or necessarily have anything to do with whether they will be a competent and ethical public servant with regard to the *public* trust? All infidelity is not created equal, as it were, and who are we to play judge and jury in such situations? If one is dumb enough (aka Eliot Spitzer) to be engaging in flagrant behavior in direct contradiction to one's public policy positions, *then* it is arguably in the public interest to make these things part of public debate, but the vast majority of this type of activity simply isn't anyone else's business.

Part of me had hoped, when Edwards was caught, erm, red-handed, visiting Rielle Hunter, he had had the spine right there to say something to the press (in that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth southern drawl) along the lines of: "Don't you have anything better to do? This is a private matter and my wife is a very ill woman." As unpalatable as this whole thing has turned out to be (and I'm glad he did the press conference at least), my hope is that he'll recognize his bastard with Ms. Hunter (if it turns out to be his, which seems highly likely), continue to speak publicly on it as appropriate, and that it won't spell the end of his career (but given the seamier aspects of this particular situation, it doesn't bode well for him :/)

Regards,
Nydia

Very well said Nydia and i agree with you 100%

While i am a bit disappointed with John's attempts to cover his ass in this matter i find it hard to be so incredulas(sp) to jump on the He R Evul bandwagon.

All this really proves is that *gasp* the man is human. and just like all of us that exist on this planet sometimes are vulnerable and possess if even just for a moment weaknesses. does a human frailty really dismiss this mans ideas of what may better us as awhole? does it mean that he really doesnt have compassion? vision? leadership?

History is rife with examples of what we now percieve as "Great men". whos contributions to this great country are beyond tremendous. but lacked many a flaw. good damn thing they existed long before the modern media and the abject hippocracy of modern politics.

Update on the John Edwards ad nauseum, from the New York Daily News:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/13/2008-08-13_elizabeth_edwards_learned_of_johns_affai.html

I'm truly sorry for Elizabeth Edwards, and what a position to be in :/ - I really had hoped that this was a case where the affair had been a private and tacitly consensual issue between the Edwardses given her condition. Even so, I really hate that politics these days involves putting people's personal lives under the microscope with regard to that most private of issues, sexuality. Can you imagine if such things had kept either FDR (due to his life-long affair with Lucy Mercer, his secretary, despite the fact that Eleanor was devastated when she initially learned of it) or JFK (due to his numerous pecadillos) from office? What is served by airing people's hurtful dirty laundry, especially where no laws have been broken or *public* trust breached?

Statistically, over a lifetime, any given married individual is more likely to have an affair then not - is this part of a person's very, erm, *personal* sorting out and accomodation process really anyone else's business, or necessarily have anything to do with whether they will be a competent and ethical public servant with regard to the *public* trust? All infidelity is not created equal, as it were, and who are we to play judge and jury in such situations? If one is dumb enough (aka Eliot Spitzer) to be engaging in flagrant behavior in direct contradiction to one's public policy positions, *then* it is arguably in the public interest to make these things part of public debate, but the vast majority of this type of activity simply isn't anyone else's business.

Part of me had hoped, when Edwards was caught, erm, red-handed, visiting Rielle Hunter, he had had the spine right there to say something to the press (in that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth southern drawl) along the lines of: "Don't you have anything better to do? This is a private matter and my wife is a very ill woman." As unpalatable as this whole thing has turned out to be (and I'm glad he did the press conference at least), my hope is that he'll recognize his bastard with Ms. Hunter (if it turns out to be his, which seems highly likely), continue to speak publicly on it as appropriate, and that it won't spell the end of his career (but given the seamier aspects of this particular situation, it doesn't bode well for him :/)

Regards,
Nydia


Nydia, you miss the point. This is holding front page position in newspapers and the Faux News and Anderson Coopers of the cable news outlets are keeping this front and center because they can drone on about something that doesn't require research, or real journalism.

Also, lets not forget that one of the biggest stories is that all of the news outlets are completely amazed that a tabloid had picked up on this before CNN, FOX, or any one of the Murdoch newspapers. Of course they don't want us to realize that back in 2003 Knight Ridder had trumped everyone on the Iraq WMD bullshit but of course everyone went with Judith Miller and her reporting of known false hoods.

Other than that...excellent post once again Nydia!

I am curious if they continue to push the Edward's "scandal" too long if it will only reopen the McCain "cheating on spouse" stories, and the inevitable comparisons of the wives' medical problems and the callousness of the mates who were unfaithful.

Mark my words,

McCains 30+ years have led to alot of miss steps and more than a few skeletons, the Obama campaing has already packed the powder. just wait, the Salvo is Incoming. most likely OCT.

Wow, that would be change we can believe in.

Wow, that would be change we can believe in.

Better then the same we are always guaranteed

I am curious if they continue to push the Edward's "scandal" too long if it will only reopen the McCain "cheating on spouse" stories, and the inevitable comparisons of the wives' medical problems and the callousness of the mates who were unfaithful.


It is opening that old fact as we expand this thread. I've seen a few people on TV start to compare this as the republicans try to pin Edwards issue as an Obama problem.

I know the enquirer is a rag paper, but haven't they also been the only rag never successfully sued?

I know the enquirer is a rag paper, but haven't they also been the only rag never successfully sued?

They are the only "tabloid" that actually do have a reporting staff. They just normally cover the TMZ / Extra! type of content and sit next to other garbage in the checkout isles that they are easily overlooked - and frankly most of what they peddle is tabloid crap, so its not a surprise.

It is opening that old fact as we expand this thread. I've seen a few people on TV start to compare this as the republicans try to pin Edwards issue as an Obama problem.

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LOL, I get such a kick out of that Hannity nutcase.

We can't trust a man to run the country if he cheats on his wife, UNLESS he was in a POW camp for 5 1/2 years being tortured, and then it is justified somehow.

I did like how there was some attempt made to highlight the fact that Edwards is no longer a candidate, but McCain is, so lets talk about the candidate and not the former candidate.

Good clip.

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This was one of the most surprising Fox News segments I have ever seen, and I am shocked that Colmes had the balls to stand up the way he did about the subject.

wow... GJ Colmes

why is this getting so much press?

Because everyone likes it when someone with so much potential is done in by his willie.....

why is this getting so much press?

A) Because there is a group of people that Fox News caters to that keep them in the ratings game who like anything that has "0" intelligence.

B) CNN Likes it because they think the key to success is to be like Fox News.

C) The "barbecue media" was helping McCain play a deflection game with Obama having a generally succesful and presidential looking trip to europe while McCain was pretty much a primary player with the potential loss of 10,000 jobs in Ohio and higher ups in his campaign being paid lobbyists for The Republic of Georgia.

D) It should stay front and center and be a point of why Edwards as well as McCain are both not to be trusted because they are cheating bastards.


Other than that, it's completely useless and not worthy of a place in any news.

I know the enquirer is a rag paper, but haven't they also been the only rag never successfully sued?

Incorrect.

They have been sued successfully, Carol Burnett being likely the most prominent suit, as reported this morning on the Sunday Morning program.