I was thinking about this the other day and i figured my curiousity has reached a point where i should post and ask this.

Basically im just curious as to what your main is and your alt(s) are, and to find if there are any trends going on.

My main was a 65 Monk and my alt was a Ranger. (i now play a beastlord full time)

How about you?

Maybe this belongs in a different section, however ill leave that up for the mods to decide =)

My main 65 war. I have no alts kinda.

Main war 65 and most serious alt (above 20) is a necro 26.

Not an alt freak, I give up fast.

65 Rogue Main and Shaman Alt.. Shaman recently more of a fun toon and doesn't get much usage.

65 Necro main

No alts really, just a ranger for foraging and a warrior I never play.

65 Necro Main/65 Shaman Alt..I play them about the same actually though unless I am raiding.

I on the otherhand am an alt fanatic. I get bored playing the same thing day after day after day. My current main is a 34 Pally with a tag team 31 Druid, alts include a 59 Ranger (first char), 56 War, 56 Clr, 52 Nec, 49 Rog and 46 Wiz. It keeps the game somewhat new for me and since I am not a big raid fan I can always log on and do something different whenever I want.

Main 65 Bard 110 AA's
Alt 65 Shaman 150 AA's

I recently made my bard my main. Talk about a great combination. I can pull solo's, mez, throw a harmony of sound, malo and slow. The fight is basically over before any damage is taken. Mana regen wise? Well Shaman (Maybe Necro's) are the best at mana regen in the game, throw in the bard and my only down time is killing what I need to kill.

I also 2 box a 65 Enchanter and my 65 bard. You want easy charm killing, get an enchanter and a bard together. Charm breaks and the bard has a quick mez for the enchanters pet.

Main is shaman, alt is wizard. During most fights, the shaman does his thing at the start of the battle (Malos, slow, etc), and the wizard gets to work toward the middle of the fight. I can root park with both and find alternating between the two pretty smooth.

Main 65 Druid (still doesn't wear shoes)
Alt 65 shaman, 65 monk, 56 Warrior, 54 mage, and multiple under 50
wiz 65, ranger 56, and multiple under 50 on other servers

Main 65 Monk
Alt 65 Enchanter
Alt 55 Shaman
Alt 46 Rogue

Been working on the rogue hardcore. Unfortunately, his highest skill is pick pocket (200). :(

highest skill is pick pocket (200).
gawd, I have my alt rogue to 56 and I dont recall my PP being maxed (I'd probably be nude if people could kill me and loot my corpse). Just get a lil bitching when someone realizes im using my "jack" script.

65 druid main
56 rogue alt
37 monk alt

Druid was my main until last year when I played my Enchanter full time.

I think the trend would be changes - so you're looking for people who've changed mains - i.e. made an alt that is now a main.

My main is a cleric and my alts are a warrior and a Monk. When I retired I was really enjoying playing my monk.

Main 65 mage
Alt 52 rogue
Alt 47 druid
Alt 40 monk
Alt 34 necro
Alt 34 chanter

Main 65 Rogue
Pets: 61 Cleric, 44 Druid
Alts: 54 Wiz, 54 Paladin, 52 SK, 47 Bard...

Alts in their 30's: Chanter, Shaman, Ranger, Warrior, Monk, 20'ish Magician...

51 rogue (more serious, he has epic nstuff)
55 warrior
46 druid
1 beastlord

Main 57 Rogue
Alts?
41 cleric
25 Mage
15 Bard
6 Necro/Shammie team

Some other scattered over my 4 accounts leveling between 10-50, but they are just there for, uh, looks? Now I just play the above alts and my main, Vixyn.

First main ever Wiz (Retired at 41, after porting to WC and Kizdean gix quickly kicked his ass. I looted my corpse went to EC sold everything and a Paladin was born.) Wiz is currently lvl 53

Second main Paladin (Retired at 55, Back in the Kunark days after spending 5 hours straight LFG in sebilis, to be told by another paladin forming a group that they "needed a tank")


Last and Final Main is Khondor 65 Warrior.

Alts to play around with on the side.

63 Bard (by far the most fun alt I have made, very versatile)
49 Ranger
48 Ranger (what can I say, 1-50 is too easy now days if you dont like one's race- go with another)
46 Magician
29 Monk

Alts on same account different servers (because I just like starting from scratch with no twinking)

34 Necromancer on Stromm,, Someday I may go back and build on this toon some more, or make one on Ayro twinked to the hilt.

44 Warrior on Karana server.

These are all on same account, I have several 65 toons I use on a regular basis also but none that I can call my own.

Gnore says :

I can pull solo's

You wouldn't pull for me in LDoN hard =(

that after this

Shit, Noarm, I know that I can pull a better train then anyone else in the game if need be. I love Kazumi's Note of Preservation (For you Shaman pullers - This is the Bards Invunerability Song that last 3 Ticks) and then Faiding Memories (I hope I don't have to explain what that is).

Wait, there is a named in those 40 NPC's. Let me pick him out of there and bring him back to camp. I know this will take a little doing but, there I got her. "Inc. Noarms Ogre looking Moma". Group_Member_1 /g damn, I have never heard of that one before, I wounder what she will drop? Group_Member_2 /g I think she drops something called Noarms Stench Diapers. AC is killer because of the stench on those.


So you can pull as well as this, yet you say and i quote :

bards don't pull well in hard.

Well, you did a very good job mezzing and twisting to your credit, you were just lucky we had a great monk (Raohll i love you!)

Hijack ~

Have a Warrior alt at level 45, but i hate alts =(

Main: Talari Iralat 65 warrior
Alt: Ostriker 34 wizard
Alt: Easman 29 druid

main: 65 mage
alt: 36 ranger twinked for 1.5 mill pp :P

my main is a 57 necromancer and i have 2 alts a 43 monk and a 44 warrior... dont play either alt.. might play the monk as main soon.. Don't know..=P

hmm...
65 Shaman was my main... long ago

But now...

65 Rogue - Main (Sangai)

alts....
if you know me they might not be considered alts =P
65 shaman (Tacman)
65 Warrior (Pretti!)
51 monkey (tacyo)

sooo many alts =)

65 Wizard is my main.

I usually read up on a class or suddenly get interested in the roleplay idea of one and start an alt, only to play them for a few levels and get bored. Have a 35 monk, but don't really play him and my wizard is pretty much my "only" right now.

Main is a bard, alt is a 34 cleric. I have a million other alts though they suck more.

i have to many just look at my sig =p
and add a 50 necro to that list.

you alrgiht there buddy ?

Grumblin,

First off, I am not giving you shit on what I write, I am only letting you know how things work on a bard.

How many bards have you done hard adventures with that have pulled? Out of those bards that have pulled, how many are elemental flagged? I am not elemental flagged (Meaning, I don't have the gear to take the hits of pulling 3 or more on our group or the mana regen to get my mana back as fast as they do). Those buggers hit pretty hard.

Bards do not pull well in hard adventures, period. Can they, sure they can. 75% of bard lulls are resisted on hard adventures.

You said to me, just use Faiding Memories. I could have pulled that way and ran out of mana in like the first 15 minutes of the adventure. Total cost for 1 FM is 900 mana, with 220 Int How many FM's do you think that I could have done before running out of mana?

On the quote that you put out for me with the pulling the named out of 40 NPC's. Pulling 1 MOB out of a group is a lot different then FM every other pull.

If you want to join me on a normal adventure, I will show you how a bard pulls, which is way to easy. We should be looking for a shaman around 7:30 - 8:00 CST tonight. I will look you up. I am serious on this, join us, you will be a nuking shaman, which I seee you like to do.

BTW, I was the one that let the one run, because my snares where resisted about 75% of the time until I hit them with Harmony of Sound (Resist Debuff). I had to switch out weapons and a drum to twist that song because I don't have my epic. I should of asked you to throw a malo on every Mob, but I didn't want to waste your mana.

The cleric's death in the beginning of that adventure I put all on myself. And, Raohll did do a great job on pulling.

Gnore 65 Bard

Have done them with many bards, and each one pulled, but yes you are right, most/all of them were e flagged or almost there. About that cleric death? bleh happens, i should have rooted, cleric could have stunned, i forget who we had as a tank, but the paladin could have stunned/rooted. In ruj, though, there are only a few pulls with more than 2, on a 2 pull you can bring em both and mez if lull resists, which you did leetly ~ and on more than 2 pull have the monk pull.
As for me malosing, 400 mana, i could nuke like twice with that! Not pulling is cool, i blew up at you because you were being all retarded in the other thread i quoted from.

Enough of what could have been, though!

Sure thing i'll join ya, ehlp on the timezone difference!?

Whats the GMT offset for CST? and daylight savings omg!

I'll look it up on some site. Cya then i guess.

k got it. cya in 3 hours.

main is 65 shaman
alts are : monk 65 / monk 65 / cleric 65 / rogue 65 / wizard 65 / druid 65 / bst 56 / enchanter 65 / war 50

Damn Noarm, you can start your own guild

Used to be Fu?

you are forever the Fu, no quitters


~SirSensingPayne

I used to be the fu as in i sold him on P.l.a.y.e.r...A.u.c.t.i.o.n.s and went to a different server =) (Lanys T`Vyl, Tyrunnt Osaurus`Rex 45 Beastlord, I leveled him myself =)) I come back here every once in a while because it does have some of the best chat around.

main 65 monk
alt 65 shaman
alt 58 warrior
alt 55 bard
alt 54 rogue
alt 55 shaman (on 2 sep accounts)

65 DRuid main
24 SK alt i just started

My main is a 65 Enchanter and I have a druid, mage and ranger, all in the 20s range...hehe.

65 Beastlord main, 65 Rogue alt. Wah ooh.

main 65 shaman
alt 65 ranger
alt 50 monk

65 cleric of the superwin with a 34 mage trailing somewhere far behind

main 65 cleric
alt 64 rogue
alt 54 ranger (first main)

65 Rogue (main)
55 Druid
31 Monk
25 Necro

63 Druid - Bylimet
65 Rogue - Bytesum

Druid was main, but play the rogue mostly now. Depending on situation, sometimes play both (separate accounts).

Also have mid thirties Ranger on ARo and one on Stromm, and some lower level stuff just to play with the classes.

Main: shaman

but my alts are inherited

65 Rogue
63 Cleric (which I really *should* level up...)

Main 65 SK
Alts:
65 Shm (Took him over from a friend when he was lvl 60 1 year or so ago)
61 Rogue(My previous main before SK)
58 Enc(Main before the Rogue)
56 Ranger
53 Bard
51 Warrior
51 Shaman
1 Beastlord(But with epic soon ! Make the damn permafrost scout spawn :/ )

I usually just create an alt when I feel like it...I usually switch out equip between the alts below shaman depending on what I wanna play atm. Rogue, Ranger(has both), bard and shaman have epic. Well now my account is full so I have to stop making alts I guess :p

I started out as a monk (knew so little about the game I spent about 2 weeks in level 8 doing newbie quests). I got a bit frustrated mid-forties and started playing my shaman more and more until he became my main. Low sixties switched over to my bard, who just rocks. So I must take exception to:

How many bards have you done hard adventures with that have pulled? Out of those bards that have pulled, how many are elemental flagged? I am not elemental flagged (Meaning, I don't have the gear to take the hits of pulling 3 or more on our group or the mana regen to get my mana back as fast as they do). Those buggers hit pretty hard.

Bards do not pull well in hard adventures, period. Can they, sure they can. 75% of bard lulls are resisted on hard adventures.

I pull hard whenever I can get a group together. My guild is just starting in VT (no loot from there for me) and am not elemental or even Sol Ro flagged yet. I do have 240AA, with MC maxed. (FT, btw, is no so much easier to get with LoDN. So stop complaining and buy some augs). There was definitely a learning curve, but once you get a feel for it bards are still the best pullers there. Lull is resisted a lot, but critical resists are rare if your CHA is 250+. I find I only need to fade 2-5 times an adventure anyway. There are usually only a few rooms that need breaking. Be selective with lulls and try to split the room in half. You need to be able to handle 2 pulls with an occasional 3. When I get adds, I usually mezz my original target on the pull. This reduces confusion on what the MT should be on, since it doesn't make it to camp, and I can fade it off if I want to.

Hawkai, 65 Bard
Grrizz, 65 Shaman

And Hawkai pulled it perfectly :D

Main is war.
Alt is necro, although I havent played him in months.

Main bard 65/485

alts: warrior 65/35
warrior 51
monk 58
sk 52
and many alts in the 20's


and i want to add about bards pulling in hards. I can do just fine pulling them, do it every day. Bards are still great pullers in hard even with lull changes.

The Lull change wasn't the issue here. The problem was the lull resists. I was getting 75% of my lulls resisted. I found out that my charisma was way to low (197 with Shaman Buff) and am working on it. I also didn't have the level 65 mez (I Do now) and most things I was getting resisted on until I threw on a HoS ahead of time.

I posted earlier on Bards not being good pullers on Hards. I guess with what I have for equipment. I was/am not ubber enough.

What is a good Charisma to have to not get resisted 75% of the time? 225? 250? Let me know.

I would love to pull on Hard adventures but I know that being resisted that much doesn't boad well for a quick and easy adventure.

Pulling in a normal adventure is easy.

Gnore 65 Bard

you want 305 cha ultimately, raising from 250 to 305 was huge for me

I believe Charisma has zero bearing on whether Lull is resisted. What it does affect is whether the mob will aggro on you or not, if you do get a resist.

I believe Charisma has zero bearing on whether Lull is resisted. What it does affect is whether the mob will aggro on you or not, if you do get a resist.


But that's a major issue. I don't mind casting lull a few times if they don't aggro on the resist. If a mob resists a few I pick a different one. If he's resisted three, he's likely to keep resisting. (BTW, I would estimate resists closer to 50% then 90, because I don't keep casting on the same mob unless I have to). Since I'm only trying to split the room, I just need it to hit one usually. Rarely two, when the 30 second duration might come into play with too many resists.

With a Shaman buff I get 250 CHA which seems to be high enough. You Bard CHA song gets it to 305 if I'm having problems (like Tak where the resists seem higher). The key is patience. You have may have to leave the group a bit earlier to set up pulls and they may have to wait for you in difficult situations. But if you don't rush and leave a larger than normal pulling distance (for when you need to fade) it works fine.

Hawl and Taleran thanks for the information.

Charisma now at 209 with shaman buff. I can twist in my charsima song and will be over 250. It will be a long time before I get to the 305 but I am sure I will get there.

I will go back and try this again and hopefully I get a little better results.

Doing Normal Adventures are cake and I would like a little more of a challange.

Gnore 65 Bard

do alot of easies and get yourself some CHA mods, most people don't want them. You can easily raise your CHA at least 50 points just with mods.

65 bard 110 aa's.

In velious gear mainly, except the gear I've aquired from pulling hard ldon's:)

The above opinions are spot on. I had a terrible time with critical resists on hards until i got a charisma buff. Hawk's point about picking your lull target is a great tip. I've been pulling a lot in NRO hards lately, which have some dense rooms. Generally, 2 in front, 2 in back and one somewhere in between. Use an eye or creative targetting to pick the one in the middle and lull, pull the front two and mezz one on incoming.

Keys I've found to doing this include having the 65 mezz for the entended range, using HOS to pull for a reliable mezz hit and having Bellow aa for when you need to lull more than one for a quick pull. I can only fade 3 times in a row, but I rarely need more than 3 for an adventure.

Jim

main is 65 druid
alt is 30 necro

Main
52 Rogue
Alts
61 Shaman
46 Shadowknight
46 Enchanter
44 Wizard
39 Magician
34 Magician
29 Bard
Bunch under 20 that are constantly rerolled as different races/classes etc.

Funny, the name thats my handle here is now my alt.

65 cleric is main
62 warrior is alt.

I have a lvl 47 druid, but he is a mule for tradeskills and a lvl 44 rogue when I want to just disappear for a while. Rogue might get attention some day, but I don't two box anymore and really like my cleric.

Rest are >20 toons of no importance.

65 Monk Main..
65 War alt
61 Ranger alt
55 Cleric alt
47 rogue alt
42 beast alt

I have too many alts, others here I have but not listed =\

65 monk main
65 beastlord boxed

Got a druid too, but he's still low level. :(

I like the kinky leather-wearing classes.

My main is a 65 paladin, with a 65 Boxed cleric.

I notice the same trends that i've noticed on Vaz.

Druids tend to have rogue alts.

Monks tend to have shaman alts.

Shamans have every god damn alt imaginable, all of which are 65.. Fucking shamans.

Paladins are too busy Being LFG to make alts.

(FYI the last two comments was my attempt at being humerous)

65 cleric
64 bard (alt)

What are these... alts you speak of? ;)

I've tried playing almost every other class in the game, and compared to the enchanter, I find them boring :/ (26 shaman 25 wizard 20 warrior 20 rogue 18 enchanter 13 ranger are my current alts, seldom played). The two that I've somewhat enjoyed have been ranger and wizard. (Curiously enough, the closest thing I've had to a class mentor in EQ was originally a ranger, and is now a wizard ;) ).

Enchanters tend to make monk alts. I don't know whether they eventually get itchy driving from the back seat, and want more control on the front end, or figure if they're going to be tanking in a dress, they'd rather have a little meat on their bones, but I've watched several enchanter friends make a monk alt for convenience's sake (camping spawns, etc), and eventually convert entirely. I just find the entire melee/getting your hands dirty thing not to my liking, and figure that's what you have those grotty folk who actually kill things (or your pets) do ;) .

Regards,
Nydia Ywalmoriel
Autonomous Collective

Main - L65 Ranger
Alt - L7 Bard

My bard would have more levels, but main > alt as far as I'm concerned.

Lvl 65 Bard (190 AA) main
Lvl 62 Ranger - rarely played alt.

Started with the ranger and played it for many a year.
Played the Bard for fun, then realized it was way more fun and useful than the Ranger was (my opinion).

As far as pulling Hards and the Lull conversation goes... Bards can pull Hard LDoN's just fine, and they don't have to be uber either. LDoN FT gear helps a lot, but the trick is indeed to get your Charisma up as high as possible.

Not sure about a high charisma lowering resists, but from what I've noticed, once you are resisted, there seems to be a charisma check to see if the mob agro's. I've gotten resisted 4 times in a row and no agro. Eventually it sticks. Or...

I'll just switch to another and pull the resistant one /shrug.

I used to be an alt junkie but I have been to some AA (Altaholics Anon.) meetings & they seem to have helped me get it under control.

62 Pally --- Main
49 Monk --- <3 her almost as much as my main
29 Wizard --- Blowing things up is fun !!


Dayzee/Lonestarr/Jarusha
***One woman...multiple personalities***
Autonomous Collective

Hehe. Well I was the original Fusheng. Got him from 1 to 56. :) I miss that old monk.

That's funny what Flik said, because I have a Rogue alt and my main is a Druid. :)

65 Druid
51 Cleric
39 Rogue

Hehe. Well I was the original Fusheng. Got him from 1 to 56. I miss that old monk.

Oh really?

Lvl 65 Bard (190 AA) main
Lvl 62 Ranger - rarely played alt.

Started with the ranger and played it for many a year.
Played the Bard for fun, then realized it was way more fun and useful than the Ranger was (my opinion).
Sacrilege! I cant believe you've been so corrupted from your roots. :(

...pay no attention to the enchanter that closely resembles my main's name... really.. my ranger IS useful... she is... honest... /sigh

/log on enchanter

65 Paladin -Main

Enchanter, Warrior, Bard, Druid, Rogue alts all in their thirties..

65 Magician

50 Warrior

47 Necro

and a host of alts too numerous to mention....

Main 65 druid - 260ish AA
Alts on main accounts anyway:
65 Cleric - 60ish AA
65 Warrior - 50ish AA
65 Chanter - 40ish AA
60 Shaman - 4 AA!
37 Beastlord
36 Cleric
20 Monk
17 Rogue
10 Bard

(I have some others though, but I can't remember what they are).

65 Cleric (Main) (Epicced)
61.3 Beastlord (Epicced)
56 Bard (Epicced)
31.5 Enchanter
29 soon to be 30 SK
25 Rogue
22 Monk
16 Wizard
15 (And climbing) Beserker
(Variety of alts on the remaining slots in both accounts under level 10)
Would be higher on the bard and others but being a cleric tends to not let you have alot of free time unless nothing going on usually.

I have noticed that alot of clerics tend to make bard alts or Beastlord alts lately..Or at least the other clerics i know have them...Beserkers seem to be the flavor of choice this month...

65 monk main
51 warrior alt
41 berserker alt
40 beastlord alt

-klawz

Main: 65 Wizard ~ Kalyxx - 658 AA
Alt: 65 Monk ~ Xxyla - 54 AA

Who needs alts when you can borrow your guildies toons anyway!?

kaleadar - main 65 cleric
slippary - 58 warrior - twinked to the sky and back

Edeina 60 mage - retired
Xenu 49 cleric - retired
Hllghz 30 monk - retired
Pygmy 25 druid - inactive
Rebakhi 22 shadowknight - kinda active
Bumbok 20 shaman - inactive
Ezmiralda 16 necromancer - retired